Re: Genealogy Programs #general

michele shari

I had Rootsmagic and had lots of problems with it working on my Apple computer! Their customer service was horrid.
I ended up buying MacFamily Tree and especially like that it will flag a problem (duplicates, age/date of birth is a conflict, etc) and interfaces with which has millions of Jewish records. It does books, reports, etc. Cost was reasonable. Has some nice features and does allow same sex marriage by changing the sex, which pops up automatically (ex, female if you are adding to a male on there already). You can play with the trial version and see if you like it. 
I think it is easy to use but is a pretty powerful program and haven't learned how to do lots of the fun stuff...yet. It does have an easy to use manual that you can download and print or save on your computer for reference. I really haven't had to use the manual much as I find the program pretty intuitive.
Good luck!
Michele Farkas
Boynton Beach, FL
Researching Farkas, Stauber, Stober, Shtauber, Stouber, Weiszhausz, Weiszhauz, Rosenfeld, Ganz, Malek, and others from Romania and Transylvania

OZ newspaper 1915 puzzle Town/area MLAVA and MOLAVA? #russia #hungary #romania



Researching surname to find links to GG birth town/hometown, found an Australian newspaper 1915 reporting areas Mlava and Molava across River Danube, Serbia? Wondering if this may have been a mistake in the news as not seen anywhere spelt the same 'Molava'. 

Thanks in advance
Mandy Molava
Researching Brest Belaurus Galacia Grodno and much more!

Re: DNA Matches - Most CentiMorgans or Largest Segment? #dna #education #poland #ukraine #galicia

Alan Ehrlich

To be sure, I’m a big fan of in general. It’s unequalled... That said, not so regarding their handling of DNA test results from other suppliers, or more precisely their absolute lack thereof. Luckily, if you tested with one of the other providers (because there arevadvantages to that), having your results uploaded to all the others (except Ancestry) leaves your resulting absence from Ancestry... Insignificant.

Especially, because I suspect it's fair to say that most serious family researchers who were tested via Ancestry (you know which ones I mean, the ones who’ll actually respond when you contact them about a match 😀) also uploaded their results to all the other databases as well. So you’ll find them anyway... and they you.

From my perspective, Ancestry not taking your test results into their database when these came from another provider much more is a ’Bug’... than  a ’Feature’ 

Kind regards,
Alan Ehrlich
Geneva, Switzerland

Re: Emigration from the UK to the US #records

Michael Sharp

For travel from European countries, passenger lists were not required by English immigration authorities
Michael Sharp
Manchester UK

Re: Need help translating Hebrew on gravestones & memorial plaques #translation #names

Valentin Lupu

Here are the translations, in the same order. I didn't translate the Hebrew dates. "Ben" means son of, "bat" means daughter. Reb is only an honorific term it doesn't mean Rabbi.
  • Abraham Zelig ben Velvel
  • Chaia Rachel bat Yehoshua
  • Liber ben Schnior
  • Here lies Pascha bat Tzvi HaCohen
  • Pessal bat Herschel Tzvi HaCohen
  • Sarah bat Yehuda
  • Here lies our dear father Tevie ben Reb Tzvi Hirsch
  • Our dear mother Mrs. Deba Dvorah bat Reb Yaakov
  • Dvorah bat Yaakov
  • Gitel bat Reb Meir Halevi
  • Our dear father Tzvi ben Yishaia
  • Tzvi ben Yishayahu
  • Yaakov ben Tzvi
  • Chaim Leib ben Reb Avraham Zelig

Valentin Lupu

Re: UK Marriage Authorisation Interpretation Questions and Translation Request #unitedkingdom

David Harrison <djh_119@...>

This is a question of crossed lines.  I think that Authorizations relate to Orthodox Jewish Weddings in Britain under their Beth Din and are not a part of Civil Marriages.  Usually existing membership of a Synagogue is required and that may have needed to have been proved with the Ketubah for the parent of the person being married.  But for a non-member the Ketubah would have been needed by officers of the Chief Rabbi if it were possible or then maybe a meeting with questions on the reality of the Jewish ancestry of the person .  Certainly, pre-WW1 the United Synagogue only had one Rabbi (as the Chief) all other people who now would be Rabbis were Reverends and that person might only give the D'vah Torah (or sermon) whilst the Chozen led the majority of the service as is still often the style in many places.

David Harrison
Birmingham, England

From: main@... <main@...> on behalf of Sally Bruckheimer via <>
Sent: 23 February 2021 20:53
To: main@... <main@...>
Subject: Re: [] UK Marriage Authorisation Interpretation Questions and Translation Request #unitedkingdom
"Thanks for raising the subject of US Marriage Authorisations". I don't think you are talking about US Marriage Authorizations - there is no such thing. In the US, each state has its own rules, and we have Marriages Licenses, not Authorizations.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ

Re: Where is the record? #galicia #records

Mark Halpern

First, let me say that searching Ancestry or any other commercial database is a very poor substitute for using JRI-Poland and Gesher Galicia for Galicia records and JRI-Poland for records from other areas of Poland. 

Specifically, much of the data on Ancestry that is sourced from JRI-Poland has not been updated since it was added over 10 years ago. And much of the data are only finding aids to record indices on the JRI-Poland online database. 

Ilya, in your search, you identified two death records that included the name of Benjamin LUKACZER, not the death of Benjamin. Actually, one record reported the death of Benjamin's wife Scheindel in 1880 and the other his son Salomon in 1883 as shown below. In both records there are links directly to the images of those records. 

So, JRI-Poland and Gesher Galicia are where Galicianers should search first for your family from Galicia. Of course, Ancestry may be one of the best source for identifying the town in Galicia where your family immigrated from using US immigration and naturalization records.

Mark Halpern
JRI-Poland Stanislawow Area Coordinator

Stanislawow PSA AGAD Births 1864-74, 77-1904 Marriages 1872-76,89-1912 Deaths 1863-87,90-1903

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Located at 48°55’ 24°42’
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Cause of Death
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View Image LUKACZER  Scheindel  1880  397   

View Image LUKACZER  Salomon Selman  1883  392   

  Benjamin LUKACZER

On 2021-02-24 9:14 am, Ilya Zeldes wrote:

On there are 2 (two) records of death for Benjamin LUKACZER in Stanislaw, one for 1880, another for 1883 (see attached). In both records, Ancestry says that the original data came from the JRI Galicia of JewishGen. I searched the JewishGen, the Gesher Galicia, the JRI-Poland, and FamilySearch to no avail, no ANY record of Benjamin LUKACZER's death in Stanislaw in the 1880s. Of course, there are records of death for other Benjamins in various years, from Brody, from Radziwill, but nothing from Stanislaw. 
Is there someone who could clear my confusion and direct me to the record of death for Benjamin LUKACZER in Stanislaw in 1880 and 1883?

Ilya Zeldes
North Fort Myers, FL

Re: Emigration from the UK to the US #records


Much the same here, I have families who split went to USA and one stayed in UK, I can only find 1 record for a neutralisation in USA, they all travelled in early 1900. Been on a long journey myself looking - told a few weeks ago by a kind gent on here that the UK didn't have many records at all for incoming as they assumed most would just land and then go elsewhere. I can suggest though if you are on Ancestry to do a search with the beginning of the surname and end it with * as this will then bring up an array of spellings (and mistakes in spellings), also don't just look at the records straight from the search, look at original document that you can 'view' I found a couple with 3 different variations of the spelling of mine.

Good luck
Mandy Molava
Researching Brest Belarus Galacia Grodno and much more!

Re: Genealogy Programs #general

Susan H. Sachs

Does Family Tree Builder - which works with MyHeritage - work the same way as Bob describes FTM & Ancestry?  That is, can you put all the tree data into Family Tree Builder, and keep it just on the computer - sync it to MyHeritage (which is on-line) but make that all private?
Thanks in advance
Beit Shemesh, Israel

Researching Hershkovics (Munkacs) Klein (Munkacs) Klein (Barkasov) Krohn (Barkasov

Re: Second try: How do I make a payment to a Ukrainian Archive? #ukraine #translation

alan moskowitz

I had responded previously with some comments.   You might try the following:   Using google translate, write a message in english and it will be translated into Ukrainian.   Reply to the archives.  Tell them it is difficult to pay them directly and ask if someone can provide a personal email address for you to send payment.  Transferwise can send payments cheaply to a personal email address. The receiving person will link that email to their personal bank, then receive payment and then they can pay the invoice.  You might look up the director of that particular archive online, and put Attention:  director XXX in the subject line.  This is an easy way to proceed, and since your invoice is very cheap, there is little risk to you.   Otherwise you will need to contact a bank in the Ukraine to handle this.  You can do a bit of searching using Google Chrome which will translate websites for you, and then email the invoice with a message in Ukrainian.  I would suggest in both cases, to put the English translation in your message  -just so you will know what you sent, and perhaps someone on the receiving end will benefit as well, and respond in English. Good Luck!

Alan Moskowitz

Where is the record? #galicia #records

Ilya Zeldes

On there are 2 (two) records of death for Benjamin LUKACZER in Stanislaw, one for 1880, another for 1883 (see attached). In both records, Ancestry says that the original data came from the JRI Galicia of JewishGen. I searched the JewishGen, the Gesher Galicia, the JRI-Poland, and FamilySearch to no avail, no ANY record of Benjamin LUKACZER's death in Stanislaw in the 1880s. Of course, there are records of death for other Benjamins in various years, from Brody, from Radziwill, but nothing from Stanislaw. 
Is there someone who could clear my confusion and direct me to the record of death for Benjamin LUKACZER in Stanislaw in 1880 and 1883?

Ilya Zeldes
North Fort Myers, FL

Yiddish/ Hebrew Name equivalent of Hungarian/ Romanian names #names #hungary #romania

Awesome Properties

I'd appreciate assistance in finding Hebrew/Yiddish name equivalants to Hungarian /Romanian names of Sari, Betti and Ferencz.
Thank you for your input
Rachel Malik

Re: Looking for lists of immigrants to Palestine from 1927 onwards #israel #austria-czech #general

Diane Jacobs

Yes, I would love the answer to do this from about 1924 - 1940.
Thanks, Diane jacobs
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On Feb 24, 2021, at 5:50 AM, veronicazundel@... wrote:

I think I asked this before but have lost the information. How would I find lists of immigrants to Palestine from 1927 onwards? I am looking for possible survivors of my mother's birth family (she was adopted in Vienna), on the basis that her eldest sibling Josef Jakob Horoschowski was planning to emigrate from Vienna to Palestine in 1927, with one of his other sisters (possible Chaje Sarah b. 1910).
Veronica Zundel, London
Searching descendants of Josef Jakob Horoschowski b. 1905 Drohobych

Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey

ViewMate request - Poland - USA(New York) #records #usa

Liza Giller

For several years I have been studying the history of the Frenkel family from Rovno.
From childhood I knew that my dad, Frenkel Tsal (Betsalel) Bentsionovich was born in 1910 and lived in the city of Rivne before the war.  At the beginning of the war, he was drafted into the army. His parents died during the war. Dad told me many times that my grandmother's name was Leia, grandfather was Bentsion, and that my brother and I were named after them.
In New York, at the Beth David Elmont Cemetery, Section E, Block 4, there is a memorial to the Jews killed in Rovno. It was built in 1954
The monument bears the name and surname of my grandmother Lea Frenkel.
Recently I found out my grandmother's maiden name - Saginur.
I think one of her relatives, brother or sister of my grandmother, lived in New York and brought her name to the monument.
I've posted aphoto of monument anf photo of my grandmother on ViewMate at the following address ...
  1. I am asking for help in finding the Saginur family from Rovno, who lived in New York in 1954.
 Liza Giller,  Israel, Lod
The last names of my ancestors that I study:
Frenkel (Frinkel) - Rivne, Ostrog; Saginur-Rovno, Kleban; Herzenov (Hertsinov, Hertsikov) -Belorussi; Luker (Liker) -Lithuania, Ukraine.

The Jewish Genealogy SIG of Naples/Collier County, Florida meeting in March, Tues 3/9/21 10AM EST on Zoom RSVP #announcements #education #events #general

Arthur Sissman

Hi JewGenners,


The Jewish Genealogy SIG meeting in March, Tues 3/9/21 10AM EST on Zoom RSVP #announcements #education #events #general 



The JGSIG March meeting is on Tues 3/9/21 at 10-11:30 am ET on Zoom.  Please answer questions above when you RSVP to genresearch13@... for Zoom link.
Attendance is FREE.


In addition to requesting the Zoom link, please answer the questions:


How did you find out about the meeting - JGen Discussion Group?

Where are you located?

Do you have a family tree?

Have you DNA Tested?

Research interest or what question are you trying to answer - not too much detail please?


Join our FB page at Jewish Genealogy SIG:
Arthur Sissman
Jewish Genealogy SIG of Naples/Collier Co FL

The Jewish Genealogical and Archival Society of Greater Philadelphia meeting and program #jgs-iajgs #announcements

Marilyn Golden

The Jewish Genealogical and Archival Society of Greater Philadelphia meeting and program
Date:  Sunday, February 28, 2021

Time:  1:00 check in, chat, and schmooze.   Official program starts promptly at 1:30 PM EST
Guest Speaker:  Leora Tec, Founder and Director, Bridge to Poland

Topic:  What is there for Jews in modern day Poland?  An Introduction to The Neshoma Project

As we know, ninety percent of Polish Jews were murdered during World War II. It's understandable that some people, especially Jews of Polish descent, might have reservations about going to Poland, the site of such vast pain and loss. And yet, Poland is an integral part of Jewish history. 

Leora Tec has travelled all over Poland having conversations with non-Jews who, in different ways, are remembering the Jews who used to be their neighbors. Those interviewed, working to heal historical wounds, come from many different fields including: scholarship, teaching, guiding, grassroots activities, museum work and the arts.

All meetings require a membership to our society EXCEPT for March 7th! Free Beginner's workshop! See our website for more information.

Marilyn Mazer Golden VP
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Need assistance in translating text on the back of this greeting card. #translation #yiddish


I'd really appreciate it if someone helps me with the translation of the text on the back of this greeting card? Unfortunately, it was cut i hope that it will be possible to get some information from this. Which language is this - Yiddish or Hebrew? The words below are in Russian and i can read them. This is a picture of my great grandfather Pinkhas Krivoviaz (son to Moishe-Leib Krivoviaz) who was born in Tomashpol (Ukriane) and later lived in Bălți (Romania and later the Republic of Moldova).
Thanks in advance!
Olga Krivoviaz

Re: Marriages in London #germany #unitedkingdom

Dan Ruby

On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 03:39 PM, Eva Lawrence wrote:
I think that the most likely reason for people to travel to London from Berlin simply in order to marry, was that they wanted a civil, rather than a religious ceremony, and that this was not available in Prussia. 
This record agrees with your theory. However, I have another case in 1908 where another RINGEL family member from Berlin married in London at the Great Synagogue. In both cases, two Berlin couples traveled together for London marriages. Most or all of the parties in the four marriages were born in Austria but lived in Berlin. 
= Dan Ruby

Re: Genealogy Programs #general

Mike Coleman


Mike Coleman  London U.K.

Re: Genealogy Programs #general

Bob Silverstein

Fred, what you describe is Family Tree Maker.  I have been using it for fifteen years or so and recommend it highly.  Two other advantages are that it has a lot of tutorials and notes online plus it interfaces with  If you are researching documents, then FTM and Ancestry work together very nicely.  You will have to put your tree on Ancestry but you can keep it totally private.  Keeping the two trees, the one on your computer and the other online, in sync is easy and reliable.  Since I have not used other programs, I cannot compare FTM to any others.  
Bob Silverstein
Elk Grove Village, IL

Researching Kaplan (Krynki, Poland) Tzipershteyn (Logishin, Pinsk, Belarus), Friedson/Fridzon (Motol, Cuba, Massachusetts), Israel and Goodman (Mishnitz, Warsaw, Manchester).