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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for MYDATT in UK #general

Darryl Mydat <Darryl.Mydat@...>
 

I am trying to trace the following cousins, can you help?

Peggy Mydatt - Married name unknown, Brother Jack Mydatt born 1913 and
living in Cambridge.

Gillian Mydatt - Married name unknown, Daughter of Jack Mydatt

Susan Mydatt - Married name unknown, Daughter of Jack Mydatt believed to be
in the Henly on Thames area.


Any suggestions on how to trace any of the above would be greatly
appreciated.


TIA

Darryl Mydat


Searching for MYDATT in UK #general

Darryl Mydat <Darryl.Mydat@...>
 

I am trying to trace the following cousins, can you help?

Peggy Mydatt - Married name unknown, Brother Jack Mydatt born 1913 and
living in Cambridge.

Gillian Mydatt - Married name unknown, Daughter of Jack Mydatt

Susan Mydatt - Married name unknown, Daughter of Jack Mydatt believed to be
in the Henly on Thames area.


Any suggestions on how to trace any of the above would be greatly
appreciated.


TIA

Darryl Mydat


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for DURRA. #general

Durra <meldrum@...>
 

Searching for: DURRA in Israel.
COHEN - DURRA in Mexico.
MEYER >from Karlsruhe, Germany.
BRANDES >from Heidelberg, Germany.

Kindly communicate directly by Email to:

Ernie Durra.
Cape Town.
South Africa. Email: <meldrum@...>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching the LEVENE family - London #general

Darryl Mydat <Darryl.Mydat@...>
 

I am searching for the descendents of the Levene family in London, the
information I have is as follows:

Louis Levene m Annie Mydat

Children:

Abe Levene m Minnie Kosky. Children Yvonne Levene,Sonia Levene & Andrew
Levene

Joe Levene m Golda Levene ( His Step sister) Child Marsha Levene

Eddie Levene died in his 20's


Does this ring any bells ?

TIA

Darryl Mydat


Looking for DURRA. #general

Durra <meldrum@...>
 

Searching for: DURRA in Israel.
COHEN - DURRA in Mexico.
MEYER >from Karlsruhe, Germany.
BRANDES >from Heidelberg, Germany.

Kindly communicate directly by Email to:

Ernie Durra.
Cape Town.
South Africa. Email: <meldrum@...>


Searching the LEVENE family - London #general

Darryl Mydat <Darryl.Mydat@...>
 

I am searching for the descendents of the Levene family in London, the
information I have is as follows:

Louis Levene m Annie Mydat

Children:

Abe Levene m Minnie Kosky. Children Yvonne Levene,Sonia Levene & Andrew
Levene

Joe Levene m Golda Levene ( His Step sister) Child Marsha Levene

Eddie Levene died in his 20's


Does this ring any bells ?

TIA

Darryl Mydat


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New York newspapers 1922/23 - Thanks #general

Alan Karbritz <AlanK@...>
 

Just a brief note to thank all the JewishGenners who replied to my posting.

As usual, the replies received were accurate and arrived almost instantly.

Thanks again.

Alan Karbritz.


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*Alan Karbritz*
Email AlanK@...
London UK


New York newspapers 1922/23 - Thanks #general

Alan Karbritz <AlanK@...>
 

Just a brief note to thank all the JewishGenners who replied to my posting.

As usual, the replies received were accurate and arrived almost instantly.

Thanks again.

Alan Karbritz.


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*Alan Karbritz*
Email AlanK@...
London UK


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Origins of TEPPER, TOPPER, TOEPPFER, etc. #general

Stan Goodman <stan@...>
 

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998 14:38:08, Unofficial Tepper Group ListOwner
<UTG.ListOwner@...> 'llowed:

 Hello all,

 I recently noticed (don't remember where, but I believe it was JewishGen)
 someone asked the origins of the name Tepermos - which was discovered to be
 a Yiddish pottering measure. I was wondering if anyone knows the origin of
 Tepper, Teper, etc., which I assume would be similar in some way to
 Tepermos.

Why is this difficult? German for 'pot' is 'topf', so that 'potter' is
'topfer' (with an umlaut over the 'o'). Yiddish is not very careful
with vowels, and certainly knows nothing about umlauts, so its
phonetic approximation is 'e'; it also routinely simplifies 'pf' to
'p'. That produces Tepper = Potter.

'Tepperman' is left as a home exercise.


-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Researching:

from Lomza Gubernia in Russian Poland: Nowicki, Neimark.
from Dorohoi District in Romania: Hertanu, Abramovici, Lauer.
from Iasi in Romania: Grisaru, Vataru.


Re: Origins of TEPPER, TOPPER, TOEPPFER, etc. #general

Stan Goodman <stan@...>
 

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998 14:38:08, Unofficial Tepper Group ListOwner
<UTG.ListOwner@...> 'llowed:

 Hello all,

 I recently noticed (don't remember where, but I believe it was JewishGen)
 someone asked the origins of the name Tepermos - which was discovered to be
 a Yiddish pottering measure. I was wondering if anyone knows the origin of
 Tepper, Teper, etc., which I assume would be similar in some way to
 Tepermos.

Why is this difficult? German for 'pot' is 'topf', so that 'potter' is
'topfer' (with an umlaut over the 'o'). Yiddish is not very careful
with vowels, and certainly knows nothing about umlauts, so its
phonetic approximation is 'e'; it also routinely simplifies 'pf' to
'p'. That produces Tepper = Potter.

'Tepperman' is left as a home exercise.


-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Researching:

from Lomza Gubernia in Russian Poland: Nowicki, Neimark.
from Dorohoi District in Romania: Hertanu, Abramovici, Lauer.
from Iasi in Romania: Grisaru, Vataru.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Re : Rocks on tombstones #general

Stan Goodman <stan@...>
 

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998 06:00:25, Alexander Serebrenik
<alicser@...> 'llowed:

 The explanation i heard here, in Israel, is that everything
 except rocks is mortal (f.e. flowers) - and only stones will
 remain forever. So does our memory...
 Best regards,
 Alexander

This is very poetic, but probably not historically meaningful.

In many cultures (including ours) it is considered a good deed to take
care of burial of the deceased, for very rational reasons. Placing a
stone (rock sounds a little ambitious) on a grave is an expression of
this good deed, even if the occupant of the grave has been there for
centuries; it is grave maintenance, in that case.


-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Researching:

from Lomza Gubernia in Russian Poland: Nowicki, Neimark.
from Dorohoi District in Romania: Hertanu, Abramovici, Lauer.
from Iasi in Romania: Grisaru, Vataru.


Re: Re : Rocks on tombstones #general

Stan Goodman <stan@...>
 

On Sun, 2 Aug 1998 06:00:25, Alexander Serebrenik
<alicser@...> 'llowed:

 The explanation i heard here, in Israel, is that everything
 except rocks is mortal (f.e. flowers) - and only stones will
 remain forever. So does our memory...
 Best regards,
 Alexander

This is very poetic, but probably not historically meaningful.

In many cultures (including ours) it is considered a good deed to take
care of burial of the deceased, for very rational reasons. Placing a
stone (rock sounds a little ambitious) on a grave is an expression of
this good deed, even if the occupant of the grave has been there for
centuries; it is grave maintenance, in that case.


-------------
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

Researching:

from Lomza Gubernia in Russian Poland: Nowicki, Neimark.
from Dorohoi District in Romania: Hertanu, Abramovici, Lauer.
from Iasi in Romania: Grisaru, Vataru.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Credit should go to where credit is due! #general

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

Roni Liebowitz <Ronisl@...> writes:

I'm having computer problems or I would have written about the wonderful
JewishGen Convention in LA ! I can't stay on this computer for long so I'll
just say that those who could not make it, please plan to attend the one in
New York next summer. There's something for everyone -- beginners and experts
and it's such fun meeting e-mail friends!!<<

It's always great to be appreciated, but in this case, we need to
clarify...The recent gathering in Los Angeles was not a JewishGen
project, but rather the hard work of the Jewish Genealogical
Society of Los Angeles, and it is to them we all direct our thanks
and appreciation. JewishGen, a completely separate organization
was merely part of the extensive list of presentors invited to
participate by the JGSLA.

We expect to be in New York when the 1999 seminar is hosted by
the JGSNY in August. See you all then!

Carol Skydell
JewishGen, Inc.


Credit should go to where credit is due! #general

Carol Skydell <skydell@...>
 

Roni Liebowitz <Ronisl@...> writes:

I'm having computer problems or I would have written about the wonderful
JewishGen Convention in LA ! I can't stay on this computer for long so I'll
just say that those who could not make it, please plan to attend the one in
New York next summer. There's something for everyone -- beginners and experts
and it's such fun meeting e-mail friends!!<<

It's always great to be appreciated, but in this case, we need to
clarify...The recent gathering in Los Angeles was not a JewishGen
project, but rather the hard work of the Jewish Genealogical
Society of Los Angeles, and it is to them we all direct our thanks
and appreciation. JewishGen, a completely separate organization
was merely part of the extensive list of presentors invited to
participate by the JGSLA.

We expect to be in New York when the 1999 seminar is hosted by
the JGSNY in August. See you all then!

Carol Skydell
JewishGen, Inc.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LA Seminar #general

Sgirson@...
 

I've seen a few posting inquiring about the Jewish Genealogical Seminar in Los
Angeles. As an attendee at the seminar, here is a brief perspective >from my
viewpoint.

First of all, I find that these seminars continue to add to my genealogical
education. There were many positive program segments and kudos are to be
extended to Ted Gostin, his group and the cast of others who put this seminar
together.

from my standpoint, the highlight was the visit of Vitalija Gircyte, Chief
Archivist, Kaunas Regional Archives. In addition to hearing Vitalija's
presentation twice (also in Washington) I had the opportunity to have a
consultation and meet her personally.

Another important happening was the number of Special Interest Group and
birds-of-a-feather meetings. The bulletin board was loaded with meeting
notices and there seemed to be a get-together going during the time slots
between the formal program schedule. The three I attended were interesting
and informative.

Getting back to Ms. Gircyte. Her presentation was well prepared and she
displayed an excellent knowledge of archival research, especially that which
is related to the availability of documents in the Kaunas Archives; plus other
Lithuanian archives on a general basis. The hard copy Kaunas Archive catalog
she prepared is an excellent reference which includes a variety of record list
holdings in the archive. I didn't count the shtetls, but it seemed to cover a
lot of territory. The beauty of the catatlog is that it is a work in progress
as they are continually finding additional records.

During my consultation, Ms. Gircyte conveyed a friendly yet business like
approach. She is sincere and left me with a very positive feeling in that she
would do whatever she could by going that extra step to help in researching
and providing data on our jewish ancestors.

from my perspective, Ms. Gircyte was the headliner on the card along with
Theodore Bikel, although in different categories -- that's pretty good
company!

To the powers that be -- I would suggest that we continue to have presenters
from other archives on the program at future seminars. Nothing like getting
information direct >from the "archival source" to get a better idea of what
records may be out there.

Lastly, if the archivist is to tour some other cities during their trip, I
would suggest that it be publicized in advance to give others the opportunity
to hear the presentation. Perhaps, this can be done through the local
society, JEWISHGEN, LITVAK SIG, etc.

Sam Girson (Silver Spring, MD)
Sgirson@...


LA Seminar #general

Sgirson@...
 

I've seen a few posting inquiring about the Jewish Genealogical Seminar in Los
Angeles. As an attendee at the seminar, here is a brief perspective >from my
viewpoint.

First of all, I find that these seminars continue to add to my genealogical
education. There were many positive program segments and kudos are to be
extended to Ted Gostin, his group and the cast of others who put this seminar
together.

from my standpoint, the highlight was the visit of Vitalija Gircyte, Chief
Archivist, Kaunas Regional Archives. In addition to hearing Vitalija's
presentation twice (also in Washington) I had the opportunity to have a
consultation and meet her personally.

Another important happening was the number of Special Interest Group and
birds-of-a-feather meetings. The bulletin board was loaded with meeting
notices and there seemed to be a get-together going during the time slots
between the formal program schedule. The three I attended were interesting
and informative.

Getting back to Ms. Gircyte. Her presentation was well prepared and she
displayed an excellent knowledge of archival research, especially that which
is related to the availability of documents in the Kaunas Archives; plus other
Lithuanian archives on a general basis. The hard copy Kaunas Archive catalog
she prepared is an excellent reference which includes a variety of record list
holdings in the archive. I didn't count the shtetls, but it seemed to cover a
lot of territory. The beauty of the catatlog is that it is a work in progress
as they are continually finding additional records.

During my consultation, Ms. Gircyte conveyed a friendly yet business like
approach. She is sincere and left me with a very positive feeling in that she
would do whatever she could by going that extra step to help in researching
and providing data on our jewish ancestors.

from my perspective, Ms. Gircyte was the headliner on the card along with
Theodore Bikel, although in different categories -- that's pretty good
company!

To the powers that be -- I would suggest that we continue to have presenters
from other archives on the program at future seminars. Nothing like getting
information direct >from the "archival source" to get a better idea of what
records may be out there.

Lastly, if the archivist is to tour some other cities during their trip, I
would suggest that it be publicized in advance to give others the opportunity
to hear the presentation. Perhaps, this can be done through the local
society, JEWISHGEN, LITVAK SIG, etc.

Sam Girson (Silver Spring, MD)
Sgirson@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen TABAK TABACK #general

Mike Ross <nister@...>
 

I am interested in hearing >from those with the subject surname and more
importantly what their names may have been changed from. I search for the
name TABACHOVITZ.

Mike Ross


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen PA Death Index? -- Also "Searching for..." #general

Ricki L. Zunk <rickiz@...>
 

Thanks to all of you who wrote to tell me that the State of Pennsylvania
did not have a State census. Now I have another question -- Is there a
Death Index for the State of PA?

My problem is quite simple: I know my mggparents' approximate years of
death (+/- three years), but I cannot narrow down the time frame any
more than that right now. That means that my mggf died sometime between
the Summer of 1898 thru 1902, and my mggm died some time between
1928-1931. At least those are the times I think they died. I've tried
just about every resource I can think of to find any records of them. I
know they were in Philly in 1900, but I cannot find them in the 1900 US
census. I tired to find them in City Directories for Philly in that
era, but was not successful there either. I have a hunch that they were
both buried in Har Nebo Cemetery in NE Philly, but the people in the
cemetery office tell me that their records are not on computer, and they
are not about to go searching through their old ledgers to find
burials. So, what's next? I live in Miami, FL, so going to the various
resource locations in Philly is out.

All I want to know is where and when Hyman (Haskell) COHAN and his wife
Ida Raizel Levinsky COHAN arrived in Philly (probably some time between
1891-1895)(they're not on the Phila., or Baltimore passenger lists). I
want to know when they actually died, and where they are buried. I'm
beginning to think that maybe they were "beamed up" by Scotty. They
were there, they did exist. But why can't I find any records of these
poor people. I know that they lived near 5th & Cross and 5th & Kater
Sts. at one time or another.

This is driving me batty. I've been looking for these people since
1976, and every avenue of research I've travelled has wound up as a dead
end. Now what?!!!!!!

TIA,
Ricki Randall Zunk
Miami, FL
<rickiz@...>

SEARCHING FOR:

COHAN/COPLIN/COPELAND/COPLAND - Lithuania (?); Phila., PA
FRIEDMAN - "Petrokov, near Kiev;" Brooklyn, NY
GROSS - Kozova, Galicia (now Ukraine)
KRAMER - The German speaking part of The Pale; Mt. Joy/Lancaster, PA;
Phila., PA; Catskills in NY
KURSON/CURSON/CARSON - Apa or Upa (near Riga), Latvia; Phila., PA;
Oklahoma; Texas
LEVINSKY/LEVINE/BIALAGORSKY - Minsk or Pinsk; Ontario Prov., CAN;
Phila., PA; Pittsburgh, PA
RENDELSTEIN/RANDALL - Kozova, Tarnopol, Dunayev, and Zborov, Galicia
(now Ukraine); greater NYC
area
SCHNEIDERMAN - "Petrokov, near Kiev;" Brooklyn, NY
--and--
EKMAN/FINKELSTEIN - Szumsk, Volhynia; Newark, NJ; Boston, MA
FEIGEL/FINKLE - Szumsk, Volhynia; Newark, NJ; Boston, MA
TROST - Hrubieszow, Poland; Newark, NJ; Brooklyn, NY; Israel
ZUNK - Arudlo (Horodlo), Poland; Newark, NJ


TABAK TABACK #general

Mike Ross <nister@...>
 

I am interested in hearing >from those with the subject surname and more
importantly what their names may have been changed from. I search for the
name TABACHOVITZ.

Mike Ross


PA Death Index? -- Also "Searching for..." #general

Ricki L. Zunk <rickiz@...>
 

Thanks to all of you who wrote to tell me that the State of Pennsylvania
did not have a State census. Now I have another question -- Is there a
Death Index for the State of PA?

My problem is quite simple: I know my mggparents' approximate years of
death (+/- three years), but I cannot narrow down the time frame any
more than that right now. That means that my mggf died sometime between
the Summer of 1898 thru 1902, and my mggm died some time between
1928-1931. At least those are the times I think they died. I've tried
just about every resource I can think of to find any records of them. I
know they were in Philly in 1900, but I cannot find them in the 1900 US
census. I tired to find them in City Directories for Philly in that
era, but was not successful there either. I have a hunch that they were
both buried in Har Nebo Cemetery in NE Philly, but the people in the
cemetery office tell me that their records are not on computer, and they
are not about to go searching through their old ledgers to find
burials. So, what's next? I live in Miami, FL, so going to the various
resource locations in Philly is out.

All I want to know is where and when Hyman (Haskell) COHAN and his wife
Ida Raizel Levinsky COHAN arrived in Philly (probably some time between
1891-1895)(they're not on the Phila., or Baltimore passenger lists). I
want to know when they actually died, and where they are buried. I'm
beginning to think that maybe they were "beamed up" by Scotty. They
were there, they did exist. But why can't I find any records of these
poor people. I know that they lived near 5th & Cross and 5th & Kater
Sts. at one time or another.

This is driving me batty. I've been looking for these people since
1976, and every avenue of research I've travelled has wound up as a dead
end. Now what?!!!!!!

TIA,
Ricki Randall Zunk
Miami, FL
<rickiz@...>

SEARCHING FOR:

COHAN/COPLIN/COPELAND/COPLAND - Lithuania (?); Phila., PA
FRIEDMAN - "Petrokov, near Kiev;" Brooklyn, NY
GROSS - Kozova, Galicia (now Ukraine)
KRAMER - The German speaking part of The Pale; Mt. Joy/Lancaster, PA;
Phila., PA; Catskills in NY
KURSON/CURSON/CARSON - Apa or Upa (near Riga), Latvia; Phila., PA;
Oklahoma; Texas
LEVINSKY/LEVINE/BIALAGORSKY - Minsk or Pinsk; Ontario Prov., CAN;
Phila., PA; Pittsburgh, PA
RENDELSTEIN/RANDALL - Kozova, Tarnopol, Dunayev, and Zborov, Galicia
(now Ukraine); greater NYC
area
SCHNEIDERMAN - "Petrokov, near Kiev;" Brooklyn, NY
--and--
EKMAN/FINKELSTEIN - Szumsk, Volhynia; Newark, NJ; Boston, MA
FEIGEL/FINKLE - Szumsk, Volhynia; Newark, NJ; Boston, MA
TROST - Hrubieszow, Poland; Newark, NJ; Brooklyn, NY; Israel
ZUNK - Arudlo (Horodlo), Poland; Newark, NJ