Hello my name is Michael, and this is a summary of my Belarus ancestors:

My Maternal Grandmother's parents are supposed to have been >from Minska
Gobernia.

My G-Grandmother, Rose (Ruchel) KULIK was said to have been born during
1883 in Vselyub outside of Novogrudok. Her parents were Samuel KULIK and
Geyla Zelda BASHNIK. Samuel's parents were Abraham Lev KULIK and Bessie
(Peshe) BELLSKY. Abraham's father was Samuel KULIK.

My G-Grandfather Barnett (Beryl) GOLDBERG was said to have been born in
1875 in Korelichi outside of Novogrudok. His parents were Joseph GOLDBERG
and Bessie (Chana Belle) COHEN.

My G-Grandparents both came to America. So the information on my
G-G-Grandparents is based on what they told my Grandmother as well as info
reported on various documents. The info on my G-Grandmother's ancestors,
which goes back several more generations is based on word of mouth only. I
have not seen documents >from "over there", although I have not concentrated
on these branches just yet. I DO rely on the "word of mouth" info, due to
the fact that Rose's grandfather lived to be 104 and my grandmother's
oldest brother (who was born there) met him as a very young boy.
Unfortunately my grandmother's two older brothers passed away several years
ago so I have lost the opportunity to question them. Rose had an interest
in family history so that also (in my opinion) lends some credibility to
her information's accuracy in terms of names. I think that the dates are
less reliable.

I recently located another branch of KULIKs in California who are descended

from Itzchok KULIK, my G-Grandmother's older brother. Itchok's two living

offspring do vaguely recall hearing the same tree being verbally recounted
while they were children in New York.

If anyone has seen or heard of any of these names before I would be happy
to hear >from you.

Regards,
Michael



Michael Fener
New York, USA
mfener@ix.netcom.com

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FENER - Hungary
FULEP/(FULOP) - Hungary
WEISS/(WEISZ) - Hungary
MARGULIES/(MARGOLIS) - Galicia
MICHAELSON/(MICHALOFSKY) - Russia
KULIK/KULIC/KULICK - Russia
BASHNICK - Russia

Hello my name is Michael, and this is a summary of my Belarus ancestors:

My Maternal Grandmother's parents are supposed to have been >from Minska
Gobernia.

My G-Grandmother, Rose (Ruchel) KULIK was said to have been born during
1883 in Vselyub outside of Novogrudok. Her parents were Samuel KULIK and
Geyla Zelda BASHNIK. Samuel's parents were Abraham Lev KULIK and Bessie
(Peshe) BELLSKY. Abraham's father was Samuel KULIK.

My G-Grandfather Barnett (Beryl) GOLDBERG was said to have been born in
1875 in Korelichi outside of Novogrudok. His parents were Joseph GOLDBERG
and Bessie (Chana Belle) COHEN.

My G-Grandparents both came to America. So the information on my
G-G-Grandparents is based on what they told my Grandmother as well as info
reported on various documents. The info on my G-Grandmother's ancestors,
which goes back several more generations is based on word of mouth only. I
have not seen documents >from "over there", although I have not concentrated
on these branches just yet. I DO rely on the "word of mouth" info, due to
the fact that Rose's grandfather lived to be 104 and my grandmother's
oldest brother (who was born there) met him as a very young boy.
Unfortunately my grandmother's two older brothers passed away several years
ago so I have lost the opportunity to question them. Rose had an interest
in family history so that also (in my opinion) lends some credibility to
her information's accuracy in terms of names. I think that the dates are
less reliable.

I recently located another branch of KULIKs in California who are descended

from Itzchok KULIK, my G-Grandmother's older brother. Itchok's two living

offspring do vaguely recall hearing the same tree being verbally recounted
while they were children in New York.

If anyone has seen or heard of any of these names before I would be happy
to hear >from you.

Regards,
Michael



Michael Fener
New York, USA
mfener@ix.netcom.com

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FENER - Hungary
FULEP/(FULOP) - Hungary
WEISS/(WEISZ) - Hungary
MARGULIES/(MARGOLIS) - Galicia
MICHAELSON/(MICHALOFSKY) - Russia
KULIK/KULIC/KULICK - Russia
BASHNICK - Russia

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Hi all:
I just added a new button on the main page of the JRI-Poland
web site (http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl).

The button is entitled "Success Stories".
This links to a page that contains many success stories
people have written to me or others on the JRI board.

Have a look. If you have a success story, feel free to
either post it to this list or email it to me.

We enjoy reading these as it shows that we are doing
the right thing and we are helping many people in their
research.

Thanks,
Steve
JRI-Poland Web Master
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Hi all:
I just added a new button on the main page of the JRI-Poland
web site (http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl).

The button is entitled "Success Stories".
This links to a page that contains many success stories
people have written to me or others on the JRI board.

Have a look. If you have a success story, feel free to
either post it to this list or email it to me.

We enjoy reading these as it shows that we are doing
the right thing and we are helping many people in their
research.

Thanks,
Steve
JRI-Poland Web Master
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* 25 Cathedral Circle, Nashua, NH 03063 saz@compuserve.com *
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Hi, JewishGenners, can you help?

We recently returned >from a riverboat cruise through
Ukraine and we were asked by JOSEPH SHAPIRO of Kanev, Ukraine, if
we would post a message to DAVID and SHIRLEY SHAPIRO of the San
Francisco area, whom someone may know, as David is connected with
the University of California and may be a member of JGS....

JOSEPH SHAPIRO was born Poldilskaya, November 12,
1921. He said that he WAS in touch David and Shirley Shapiro, and
then all letters stopped. He would very much like to connect with
them again. He mentioned an "agency - HARCO", but I have no idea
if it has any connection. I have a photograph of him and his full
address.

Email Shirley R. Rose directly :
Dreame@aol.com

Hi, JewishGenners, can you help?

We recently returned >from a riverboat cruise through
Ukraine and we were asked by JOSEPH SHAPIRO of Kanev, Ukraine, if
we would post a message to DAVID and SHIRLEY SHAPIRO of the San
Francisco area, whom someone may know, as David is connected with
the University of California and may be a member of JGS....

JOSEPH SHAPIRO was born Poldilskaya, November 12,
1921. He said that he WAS in touch David and Shirley Shapiro, and
then all letters stopped. He would very much like to connect with
them again. He mentioned an "agency - HARCO", but I have no idea
if it has any connection. I have a photograph of him and his full
address.

Email Shirley R. Rose directly :
Dreame@aol.com

curwin@gezernet.co.il (curwin) writes:

While the posted question didn't seem to have anything to do with genealogy,
I think I can provide an answer with some connection to genealogy.

There was a disagreement between the Sages as to whether the mezuza
should be placed horizontally or vertically. As a compromise, it was placed
on an angle.

It should also be noted that, contrary to what was stated in the original
posting, not all mezuzas are placed at an angle. This is an Ashkenazi
custom. The Sephardi tradition is to place them vertically.

Nat Reiss
reiss@rci.rutgers.edu

curwin@gezernet.co.il (curwin) writes:

While the posted question didn't seem to have anything to do with genealogy,
I think I can provide an answer with some connection to genealogy.

There was a disagreement between the Sages as to whether the mezuza
should be placed horizontally or vertically. As a compromise, it was placed
on an angle.

It should also be noted that, contrary to what was stated in the original
posting, not all mezuzas are placed at an angle. This is an Ashkenazi
custom. The Sephardi tradition is to place them vertically.

Nat Reiss
reiss@rci.rutgers.edu

I would like to know if anyone has any information about a city called
"Shetrvitz" in Galitzia or families called: Wander, Zwibel or Bratter. Thank
you! Josh Wander

I would like to know if anyone has any information about a city called
"Shetrvitz" in Galitzia or families called: Wander, Zwibel or Bratter. Thank
you! Josh Wander

The compromise between vertical and horizontal is one explanation for the
angle of the mezuzah. There is another explanation. Some say that the
mezuzah was placed vertically until the Crusades in Europe, when hostile
locals started painting crossbars on peoples' mezuzahs to form a cross. To
thwart this, mezuzahs were placed at an angle. This was not done in Islamic
countries. In Israel today, some have used this explanation to resume
placing their mezuzahs vertically, since they have no concern that anyone
will desecrate them.

Steve Rabinowitz

MODERATOR NOTE: We've strayed too far >from geneaology folks. This
thread is ended.

The compromise between vertical and horizontal is one explanation for the
angle of the mezuzah. There is another explanation. Some say that the
mezuzah was placed vertically until the Crusades in Europe, when hostile
locals started painting crossbars on peoples' mezuzahs to form a cross. To
thwart this, mezuzahs were placed at an angle. This was not done in Islamic
countries. In Israel today, some have used this explanation to resume
placing their mezuzahs vertically, since they have no concern that anyone
will desecrate them.

Steve Rabinowitz

MODERATOR NOTE: We've strayed too far >from geneaology folks. This
thread is ended.

My mother was born in Bialystok, but, (I'm sure you have heard this before) I
never asked her about her grandparents and other relatives before she passed
away. Since hers was the first generation to emigrate, I needed the LDS films
to help me trace my ancestry. To my great surprise, I easily found in the JRI-
Poland database dozens of records of people that are most likely my ancestors
and many new names to research. However, there are still gaps that remain to
connect these ancestors to me. The shtetl co-op has so much more that it can
do.

I volunteer to help with the data entry. But that is only one small way I can
and will participate. The most important contributions are by the dedicated
leadership of the Shtetl Co-op and the transliterators who have made the
researcher's task much less tedious and painful. However, there remain many
Bialystok films to be transliterated >from the Russian and the transliteration
of Cyrillic documents has a cost. They cannot be done without the monetary
support of all the researchers who are the beneficiaries. Therefore, I have
just written a check to JRI-Poland specifically directed to the Bialystok
Shtetl Co-op. And I challenge all other Bialystok researchers to do the same.

Sonia Hoffman, in her recent JewishGen post, pointed out that the Bialystok
records include references to families living in shtetls for miles around
(often those places for which there are no other sources of records). So now,
I should say "I challenge all other Bialystok and _vicinity_ researchers to do
the same!"

Additionally, for all you Americans, it was announced at the Los Angeles
Seminar that JRI-Poland has applied for tax exempt status, which, when
granted, will make your contribution tax deductible. In addition, if you work
for a philanthropic company, this contribution may qualify for Matching Gifts
status if your company has such a program. Find out how to contribute at
www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/reippco.htm.

Mark Halpern
Hermosa Beach, CA

Could you please tell me where Posen is in Poland, if that is the =
correct spelling. My family apparently originated >from Posen and I can't =
find any information, or locate this place.

Many thanks !

Kind regards

Geoff Shrimski

My mother was born in Bialystok, but, (I'm sure you have heard this before) I
never asked her about her grandparents and other relatives before she passed
away. Since hers was the first generation to emigrate, I needed the LDS films
to help me trace my ancestry. To my great surprise, I easily found in the JRI-
Poland database dozens of records of people that are most likely my ancestors
and many new names to research. However, there are still gaps that remain to
connect these ancestors to me. The shtetl co-op has so much more that it can
do.

I volunteer to help with the data entry. But that is only one small way I can
and will participate. The most important contributions are by the dedicated
leadership of the Shtetl Co-op and the transliterators who have made the
researcher's task much less tedious and painful. However, there remain many
Bialystok films to be transliterated >from the Russian and the transliteration
of Cyrillic documents has a cost. They cannot be done without the monetary
support of all the researchers who are the beneficiaries. Therefore, I have
just written a check to JRI-Poland specifically directed to the Bialystok
Shtetl Co-op. And I challenge all other Bialystok researchers to do the same.

Sonia Hoffman, in her recent JewishGen post, pointed out that the Bialystok
records include references to families living in shtetls for miles around
(often those places for which there are no other sources of records). So now,
I should say "I challenge all other Bialystok and _vicinity_ researchers to do
the same!"

Additionally, for all you Americans, it was announced at the Los Angeles
Seminar that JRI-Poland has applied for tax exempt status, which, when
granted, will make your contribution tax deductible. In addition, if you work
for a philanthropic company, this contribution may qualify for Matching Gifts
status if your company has such a program. Find out how to contribute at
www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/reippco.htm.

Mark Halpern
Hermosa Beach, CA

Could you please tell me where Posen is in Poland, if that is the =
correct spelling. My family apparently originated >from Posen and I can't =
find any information, or locate this place.

Many thanks !

Kind regards

Geoff Shrimski

Let me introduce myself! I have been researching my family for over 51 years
and so far have traced 17 generations with over 36,000 names on my family
list.

Following is a list of those who lived in Keidan: (note that most of my family
is rabbinic)

Broda, Rabbi Abraham
Broda, rabbi Joseph
Heilprin, Rabbi Raphael
Heller, rabbi Yechiel
Katzenellenbogen, Rabbi Abraham
" . Rabbi MOrdechai
> Rabbi Saul
Katzenellenpogen, Rabbi David
" Rabbi Jacob
" Rabbi Joel
" Rabbi Menachem
" Rabbi Moses
Rapoport, rabbi Nachum

Shalom,

George Sackheim
Skokie, Illinois
<ZeraKodesh@aol.com>

Let me introduce myself! I have been researching my family for over 51 years
and so far have traced 17 generations with over 36,000 names on my family
list.

Following is a list of those who lived in Keidan: (note that most of my family
is rabbinic)

Broda, Rabbi Abraham
Broda, rabbi Joseph
Heilprin, Rabbi Raphael
Heller, rabbi Yechiel
Katzenellenbogen, Rabbi Abraham
" . Rabbi MOrdechai
> Rabbi Saul
Katzenellenpogen, Rabbi David
" Rabbi Jacob
" Rabbi Joel
" Rabbi Menachem
" Rabbi Moses
Rapoport, rabbi Nachum

Shalom,

George Sackheim
Skokie, Illinois
<ZeraKodesh@aol.com>

Hi,

I'm searching for the ECKMAN family >from Vilna and later on >from Detroit.
Israel Eckman (son of Yakov Kopel and Sarah Tzitza EKMAN), and his wife,
Fannie, moved to the United States >from Vilna in the early 1900's.

They had three children:
1- Sophie (1906 born NJ - 1987 Detroit),
2- Esther Blossom (1906 NJ - 1987 Detroit),
3- Unknown son.

I'm not sure exactly when Sophie and Esther Blossom moved to Detroit, but
at at least >from the 1960's on they were both living there. They were in
their 60's at the time, both unmarried, and both were school teachers. The
last address I have for Sophie is 13137 Flanders Street. I'm not sure what
happened to the son or if he even lived in Detroit.

If anyone knows of this family, or can help me in locating my relatives I
would really appreciate it.

Thank you very much.

Michael Trapunsky (mtrap@idt.net)
Searching for the ECKMAN family of Vilna and Detroit.

Hi,

I'm searching for the ECKMAN family >from Vilna and later on >from Detroit.
Israel Eckman (son of Yakov Kopel and Sarah Tzitza EKMAN), and his wife,
Fannie, moved to the United States >from Vilna in the early 1900's.

They had three children:
1- Sophie (1906 born NJ - 1987 Detroit),
2- Esther Blossom (1906 NJ - 1987 Detroit),
3- Unknown son.

I'm not sure exactly when Sophie and Esther Blossom moved to Detroit, but
at at least >from the 1960's on they were both living there. They were in
their 60's at the time, both unmarried, and both were school teachers. The
last address I have for Sophie is 13137 Flanders Street. I'm not sure what
happened to the son or if he even lived in Detroit.

If anyone knows of this family, or can help me in locating my relatives I
would really appreciate it.

Thank you very much.

Michael Trapunsky (mtrap@idt.net)
Searching for the ECKMAN family of Vilna and Detroit.