One of the three that are known as Bayside is Mokom Sholom Cemetery
201 East Broadway
New York, NY 10002

They do write back. Good luck

Howard Kaufman

One of the three that are known as Bayside is Mokom Sholom Cemetery
201 East Broadway
New York, NY 10002

They do write back. Good luck

Howard Kaufman

When I recently looked at the 1920 Census for my maternal
grandparents, I had to search Walnut Street in CHELSEA, MA. Half
of Chelsea -- at least that particular area -- was >from Kovna. I
remember thinking, What happened in Kovna that the whole damn
town left. It was really quite remarkable. Neighbor after
neighbor.

Some group should organize to copy >from the 1910 and 1920
Censuses (pl?) the sreets containing the known pockets of Jewish
immigrants in certain cities, and put it up on the Net. At least
it's in English and will dispense with so much guessing at how
the names were spelled at the time they arrived and the
shtetls/cities/towns >from which they came and the names of their
children living at the time. WE REALLY HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES HOW
MANY INDIVIDUAL TRIPS ARE GOING TO BE MADE TO THE FEDERAL
ARCHIVES AT WALTHAM, MASS. I really do think I'm missing
something here. I probably spent 8 or 9 hours in total at
Waltham plus travel to and fro three times. Is each of us going
to make one or more trips to wind and rewind microfiche? I guess
what I'm saying is that the info has to be made more easily
accessible. And that's only the early part of the search. The
passenger lists for ships going to New York are in Pittsfield,
the other side of our state. I'm one of the lucky ones. Think
of those for whom Pittsfield will be more than a day or two
trip. You realize, don't you, that if any of us ran our
businesses this ineffeciently, we'd be in or headed for
bankruptcy!

MODERATOR NOTE: Ideas are always welcomed on how to improve
research methods, so are you willing to head up an effort to
organize and implement this project? Additionally, we could
begin by looking at the piles of papers we all have and see
which contain names that can be shared with other J'Genners.

Susan King proposed that all the photocopies of census records,
all the copies of passenger manifest pages, all the lists of
names we have on documents be sent to JewishGen for scanning
into a proposed document storage and retrieval system. Folks
attending the Los Angeles seminar graciously shared all manner
of information and it has been scanned, waiting for the retrieval
system to become an actuality.

When I recently looked at the 1920 Census for my maternal
grandparents, I had to search Walnut Street in CHELSEA, MA. Half
of Chelsea -- at least that particular area -- was >from Kovna. I
remember thinking, What happened in Kovna that the whole damn
town left. It was really quite remarkable. Neighbor after
neighbor.

Some group should organize to copy >from the 1910 and 1920
Censuses (pl?) the sreets containing the known pockets of Jewish
immigrants in certain cities, and put it up on the Net. At least
it's in English and will dispense with so much guessing at how
the names were spelled at the time they arrived and the
shtetls/cities/towns >from which they came and the names of their
children living at the time. WE REALLY HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES HOW
MANY INDIVIDUAL TRIPS ARE GOING TO BE MADE TO THE FEDERAL
ARCHIVES AT WALTHAM, MASS. I really do think I'm missing
something here. I probably spent 8 or 9 hours in total at
Waltham plus travel to and fro three times. Is each of us going
to make one or more trips to wind and rewind microfiche? I guess
what I'm saying is that the info has to be made more easily
accessible. And that's only the early part of the search. The
passenger lists for ships going to New York are in Pittsfield,
the other side of our state. I'm one of the lucky ones. Think
of those for whom Pittsfield will be more than a day or two
trip. You realize, don't you, that if any of us ran our
businesses this ineffeciently, we'd be in or headed for
bankruptcy!

MODERATOR NOTE: Ideas are always welcomed on how to improve
research methods, so are you willing to head up an effort to
organize and implement this project? Additionally, we could
begin by looking at the piles of papers we all have and see
which contain names that can be shared with other J'Genners.

Susan King proposed that all the photocopies of census records,
all the copies of passenger manifest pages, all the lists of
names we have on documents be sent to JewishGen for scanning
into a proposed document storage and retrieval system. Folks
attending the Los Angeles seminar graciously shared all manner
of information and it has been scanned, waiting for the retrieval
system to become an actuality.

When I was in highschool (class of '52, 45 years ago, I had a
crush on a young man about two or three years older than I. His
name was Phil Kaminsky. He was very blond and extremely
handsome. If I remember correctly, he came >from around Methuen
or Chelmsford, MA. I haven't seen him in as many years. I do
know he went to Worcester Polytechnic Institute (WPI), a very
good engineering school. I went to some prom, maybe even a
homecoming weekend, with him. He would have been in the class
of '53, '54, or '55. Write the WPI alumni office and have them
forward your note to him. If he is interested in answering, he
will. See the Khazaria site for red-haired Jews. The Turkish
nation of Jews. Apparently it was the Turks who had the red hair
and then they invited the Jews and the entire nation converted to
Judaism. Evidently red-hair was predominant there until circa
850, when the Mongols overran it.

When I was in highschool (class of '52, 45 years ago, I had a
crush on a young man about two or three years older than I. His
name was Phil Kaminsky. He was very blond and extremely
handsome. If I remember correctly, he came >from around Methuen
or Chelmsford, MA. I haven't seen him in as many years. I do
know he went to Worcester Polytechnic Institute (WPI), a very
good engineering school. I went to some prom, maybe even a
homecoming weekend, with him. He would have been in the class
of '53, '54, or '55. Write the WPI alumni office and have them
forward your note to him. If he is interested in answering, he
will. See the Khazaria site for red-haired Jews. The Turkish
nation of Jews. Apparently it was the Turks who had the red hair
and then they invited the Jews and the entire nation converted to
Judaism. Evidently red-hair was predominant there until circa
850, when the Mongols overran it.

Hello,
Someone just sent this to me and I feel the info is of general interest.

Q: I have been on a "waiting" list for almost 1 yr. I wait and wait and
wait. I have only file #s assigned to me re: info. >from INS.
When I write, no response. But the letters are not returned to
me, so I would think they arrived at INS. I even have the name of
an indiv. to whom to send corresp. Suggestions?

If you have a INS #, just leave it alone til you get something. I've
done
about 17 INS requests and I usually send all my supporting garbage
after the initial # is assigned to me. Then I call up and make sure they
didn't feed everything to the dog. It is important to me so I spend the
.10 a minute so I can speak to someone there. I have found the average
turn around time to be under a year.
I will say that if and once they find your relatives papers, I
wouldn't
get hung up on "did they find everything or should I appeal". >from what
I understand, appealing is sort of a waste of time as per a conversation
I had with one of the INS supervisors. Usually you are appealing a no
record found reply. In my question to the supervisor, I asked," Does the
INS ever find records but decide to withhold them >from the requestor
because of any reason? " I was told that if the INS finds it, you get
it,
period. It is my feeling that they strive for customer service while
fulfilling your request under the Freedom of Information act. It is
contrary to their
goals and objectives to have a million grandmothers screaming for
records that they have found. The problem lies when papers/documents
are misfiled, lost, or unreadable. The INS can't simply wiggle their
noses
and create the stupid document. On the positive side, If you've done an
INS request several years ago, I understand the INS has recently
improved the quality of the image copying with newer copying & microfilm
machines. So, try a request for a clearer copy.

James H. Gross
Cherry Hill, N.J.
e-mail: LARKLANE@JUNO.COM
Gross-Steinberg Family Tree
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/6721/

Hello,
Someone just sent this to me and I feel the info is of general interest.

Q: I have been on a "waiting" list for almost 1 yr. I wait and wait and
wait. I have only file #s assigned to me re: info. >from INS.
When I write, no response. But the letters are not returned to
me, so I would think they arrived at INS. I even have the name of
an indiv. to whom to send corresp. Suggestions?

If you have a INS #, just leave it alone til you get something. I've
done
about 17 INS requests and I usually send all my supporting garbage
after the initial # is assigned to me. Then I call up and make sure they
didn't feed everything to the dog. It is important to me so I spend the
.10 a minute so I can speak to someone there. I have found the average
turn around time to be under a year.
I will say that if and once they find your relatives papers, I
wouldn't
get hung up on "did they find everything or should I appeal". >from what
I understand, appealing is sort of a waste of time as per a conversation
I had with one of the INS supervisors. Usually you are appealing a no
record found reply. In my question to the supervisor, I asked," Does the
INS ever find records but decide to withhold them >from the requestor
because of any reason? " I was told that if the INS finds it, you get
it,
period. It is my feeling that they strive for customer service while
fulfilling your request under the Freedom of Information act. It is
contrary to their
goals and objectives to have a million grandmothers screaming for
records that they have found. The problem lies when papers/documents
are misfiled, lost, or unreadable. The INS can't simply wiggle their
noses
and create the stupid document. On the positive side, If you've done an
INS request several years ago, I understand the INS has recently
improved the quality of the image copying with newer copying & microfilm
machines. So, try a request for a clearer copy.

James H. Gross
Cherry Hill, N.J.
e-mail: LARKLANE@JUNO.COM
Gross-Steinberg Family Tree
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/6721/

I am looking for any information about the NEUFELD and STERN
families who came >from Budapest to New York in Dec 1891. My
grandfather, William (Vilmos) NEUFELD and grandmother Fannie
(STERN) NEUFELD lived in Brooklyn New York. He died in an
accident in 1913 and she died in 1925. Their children were named:
Leah, Harry, Sidney, Anna and Ruth (Regina). I have information
about the family going back to the early 1800's in Hungary and a
lot of information about the family in the 1900's in the U.S. I
would be more than happy to hear >from anyone who can help and I
have information to share.

Bob Cooper

rrcooper@erols.com

I am looking for any information about the NEUFELD and STERN
families who came >from Budapest to New York in Dec 1891. My
grandfather, William (Vilmos) NEUFELD and grandmother Fannie
(STERN) NEUFELD lived in Brooklyn New York. He died in an
accident in 1913 and she died in 1925. Their children were named:
Leah, Harry, Sidney, Anna and Ruth (Regina). I have information
about the family going back to the early 1800's in Hungary and a
lot of information about the family in the 1900's in the U.S. I
would be more than happy to hear >from anyone who can help and I
have information to share.

Bob Cooper

rrcooper@erols.com

I am searching for information about Sigmund GOLDSTEIN who died in
Winnipeg on April 24, 1909, age 39. His father's name was Nathan and he
was born in GErmany on May 29, 1870. He left his wife Katie and two
children.
--

Paul Silverstone

reply to : paulh@aya.yale.edu

I am searching for information about Sigmund GOLDSTEIN who died in
Winnipeg on April 24, 1909, age 39. His father's name was Nathan and he
was born in GErmany on May 29, 1870. He left his wife Katie and two
children.
--

Paul Silverstone

reply to : paulh@aya.yale.edu

Looking for anyone having relatives >from or interest in:

Molchadz, Belarus

Please contact me.

Myrna Siegel
ssi448@nwu.edu


Searching: BORETCKY, GORSKY, KOVENSKY and PLOFSKY >from Slonim, Molchadz,
Baranovici and Novogrudok, Belarus
OGRODNITZKY, NADOLNA, NEIDORF and RABINOWITZ >from Wizna, and Trzcianne, Poland
SIEGEL, STIEN, ROSENWITZ >from Sirvintos, Uzpalai, Svedasai and Anyksciai,
Lithuania

Looking for anyone having relatives >from or interest in:

Molchadz, Belarus

Please contact me.

Myrna Siegel
ssi448@nwu.edu


Searching: BORETCKY, GORSKY, KOVENSKY and PLOFSKY >from Slonim, Molchadz,
Baranovici and Novogrudok, Belarus
OGRODNITZKY, NADOLNA, NEIDORF and RABINOWITZ >from Wizna, and Trzcianne, Poland
SIEGEL, STIEN, ROSENWITZ >from Sirvintos, Uzpalai, Svedasai and Anyksciai,
Lithuania

We are trying to trace a line of family with the last name of GOODMAN that
lived in New York since l850. The husband was Louis GOODMAN and the wife was
Rachel PEARLMAN-GOODMAN. We can't figure out how to trace them to the
present. We found them in the 1890 census. We are trying to locate current
relatives of that family tree. The most current relative that we know of is
Beatrice GOODMAN-LOSOW who died in l934. The above were her parents. Another
relative is Rebecca GOODMAN. They may be one in the same, but we aren't sure.
She was born in l892. There was a large family of GOODMAN siblings. How do
we go about tracing this family. We don't live in New York, so it is
difficult. Another descendent of this family is Elaine KAVANAV, the daughter
of Beatrice. We have traced her to l946 in Brooklyn and can't get beyond
this. The family lived on Henry Street in New York in the l890's.
Thanks.

Kathleen Jermaine gkfam@linex.com

We are trying to trace a line of family with the last name of GOODMAN that
lived in New York since l850. The husband was Louis GOODMAN and the wife was
Rachel PEARLMAN-GOODMAN. We can't figure out how to trace them to the
present. We found them in the 1890 census. We are trying to locate current
relatives of that family tree. The most current relative that we know of is
Beatrice GOODMAN-LOSOW who died in l934. The above were her parents. Another
relative is Rebecca GOODMAN. They may be one in the same, but we aren't sure.
She was born in l892. There was a large family of GOODMAN siblings. How do
we go about tracing this family. We don't live in New York, so it is
difficult. Another descendent of this family is Elaine KAVANAV, the daughter
of Beatrice. We have traced her to l946 in Brooklyn and can't get beyond
this. The family lived on Henry Street in New York in the l890's.
Thanks.

Kathleen Jermaine gkfam@linex.com

My mother, who lived in Winnipeg, Canada,
called herself Syril. It was Sarah in Herbrew.

June Sabroff
jsabr@aol.com

While the posted question didn't seem to have anything to do with genealogy,
I think I can provide an answer with some connection to genealogy.

There was a disagreement between the Sages as to whether the mezuza
should be placed horizontally or vertically. As a compromise, it was placed
on an angle.

The lesson to be learned >from this, is that if one was to come and look
at the mezuza without knowing the background, he would think that it was
placed on an angle as the ideal state. But someone who knows the
story, is aware that there is nothing ideal about the angle, but the significance
lies in the disagreement between the horizontal and vertical positions.

This is an important lesson for our genealogical searches - sometimes the
final result we see is much less important than the developments that led to
it. This can be for a surname, a town of origin or any other search.

The example of the "mezuza on an angle" is used by Rabbi Mordechai
BREUER, one of the most important teachers of Bible today. He is
the grandson of Rabbi Shlomo BREUR, who was the son-in-law of Rabbi
Shimshon (Samson) Raphael HIRSH, of Frankfurt, Germany.


--
-David Curwin
curwin@gezernet.co.il
Kvutzat Yavne, Israel

researching:
SUZMAN Balbieriskis, Lithuania
PAGLIN Lithuania
ROGOFF Raguva/Vilkomir/Anyksciai, Lithuania
BERMAN Anyksciai, Lithuania
TATELMAN, MIRVIS Seduva, Lithuania
FRAKT, CRONIK Jonava, Lithuania
GARBER Krekenava, Lithuania
BUROFSKY (BOROWSKI, BURROWS) Salantai, Lithuania /Gdansk, Poland
ZIDES, ONGEIBERG Slutsk, Belarus
YASKOLKA Ciechanowiec/Grodno, Poland
MALOWER Lomza, Poland

My mother, who lived in Winnipeg, Canada,
called herself Syril. It was Sarah in Herbrew.

June Sabroff
jsabr@aol.com

While the posted question didn't seem to have anything to do with genealogy,
I think I can provide an answer with some connection to genealogy.

There was a disagreement between the Sages as to whether the mezuza
should be placed horizontally or vertically. As a compromise, it was placed
on an angle.

The lesson to be learned >from this, is that if one was to come and look
at the mezuza without knowing the background, he would think that it was
placed on an angle as the ideal state. But someone who knows the
story, is aware that there is nothing ideal about the angle, but the significance
lies in the disagreement between the horizontal and vertical positions.

This is an important lesson for our genealogical searches - sometimes the
final result we see is much less important than the developments that led to
it. This can be for a surname, a town of origin or any other search.

The example of the "mezuza on an angle" is used by Rabbi Mordechai
BREUER, one of the most important teachers of Bible today. He is
the grandson of Rabbi Shlomo BREUR, who was the son-in-law of Rabbi
Shimshon (Samson) Raphael HIRSH, of Frankfurt, Germany.


--
-David Curwin
curwin@gezernet.co.il
Kvutzat Yavne, Israel

researching:
SUZMAN Balbieriskis, Lithuania
PAGLIN Lithuania
ROGOFF Raguva/Vilkomir/Anyksciai, Lithuania
BERMAN Anyksciai, Lithuania
TATELMAN, MIRVIS Seduva, Lithuania
FRAKT, CRONIK Jonava, Lithuania
GARBER Krekenava, Lithuania
BUROFSKY (BOROWSKI, BURROWS) Salantai, Lithuania /Gdansk, Poland
ZIDES, ONGEIBERG Slutsk, Belarus
YASKOLKA Ciechanowiec/Grodno, Poland
MALOWER Lomza, Poland