I am seeking information on Ethel BARTEL BERLIN, the first wife of my uncle Philip M. BERLIN. They were married in New York City on Oct. 11, 1925. Ethel's parents were William BARTEL and Sarah HEUER. Ethel was 25 years old at the time. She and Philip were divorced by 1935 and she may have moved to California at some point. I would appreciate it if anyone with any information about her or her descendants could contact me. Thanks!

Richard Sapon-White
Richard.Sapon-White@orst.edu

I am seeking information on Ethel BARTEL BERLIN, the first wife of my uncle Philip M. BERLIN. They were married in New York City on Oct. 11, 1925. Ethel's parents were William BARTEL and Sarah HEUER. Ethel was 25 years old at the time. She and Philip were divorced by 1935 and she may have moved to California at some point. I would appreciate it if anyone with any information about her or her descendants could contact me. Thanks!

Richard Sapon-White
Richard.Sapon-White@orst.edu

I am researching the FREEDLAND/FRIEDLAND and HORWITZ families from
Smolowitz/Smolevichi. Shlomo and Sarah Horwitz Freedland had the
following children: Nathan born 1886, Harry Gerson, Jenny, Molly,
Joseph and Sol. Sarah Horwitz parents were Simon and Anna Getzoff
Horwitz. I believe Simon and Anna were married around 1885 and was
wondering if a marriage record might exist.
Thanks,

Mark Lustik

I am researching the FREEDLAND/FRIEDLAND and HORWITZ families from
Smolowitz/Smolevichi. Shlomo and Sarah Horwitz Freedland had the
following children: Nathan born 1886, Harry Gerson, Jenny, Molly,
Joseph and Sol. Sarah Horwitz parents were Simon and Anna Getzoff
Horwitz. I believe Simon and Anna were married around 1885 and was
wondering if a marriage record might exist.
Thanks,

Mark Lustik

In the eighth installment, I am sending works that cover individual communities

from countries which used to be part of historical Hungary >from NY to S.

NY
Nyíregyháza
Király Aladár A nyíregyházi gettó története Nyíregyháza, 1946
Harsányi László A nyíregyházi zsidók története. In: MIOK Évkönyv 1973-1974.
Budapest, 1974
Gervai Sándor Nyíregyháza zsidóság története. 1963

P
Paks
Grünwald Fülöp-Harsányi László-Schück Jenõ Öt község. Budapest,
1972
D. Sofer Mazkeret Paks. Jerusalem, 1962
Pápa
Jehuda Gyula Lang A pápai zsidóság emlékkönyve. Tel Aviv, é.n. (1974)
Pécs-Fünfkirchen
Weisz Gábor A Pécsi Izr. Hitközség monográfiája. Pécs, 1929
Polgár László Könnyek könyve. 1940-1945. Pécs
Schweitzer József A pécsi hitközség a deportálás és felszabadítás idõszakában.
In: Új Élet Naptár 1960-1961. Budapest, 1961
Schweitzer József A pécsi izraelita hitközség története. Budapest, 1966
Dr. Stark András, dr. Vargha Dezsõ Emlékkönyv a pécs-baranyai szidóság
deportálásának 50. évfordulójára. Pécs, 1994
Porcsalma
Sh. Friedmann Sefer yizkor lekedoshei Csenger, Porcsalma vehaseviva Tel
Aviv, 1966
Pöstyén-Piestany
Sh. Grünwald Gedenkbuch der Gemeinden Piestany und Umgebung.
Jerusalem, 1969
Pozsony-Pressburg-Bratislava
Fishman, Y.L.Hacohen Arim veimahot beyisrael vol.7:
Pozsony-Pressburg-Bratislava Jerusalem, 1960
Hugo Gold (szerk.) Die Juden und die Judengemeinde Bratislava in
Vergangenheit und Gegenwart. Brünn, 1932
O. Faust Zur Geschichte der Juden in Bratislava. In: Jüdische Folkzeitung. X.
1928. Nos. 39-40.
H. Flesch Die Juden und die Judengemeinde Bratislava.

R
Rákospalota (Budapest)
Áhároni (Duschinsky) Ráchel A rákospalotai zsidó hitközség története. Tel
Aviv, 1978
Retteg
Singer Zoltán Volt egyszer egy Dés...Bethlen, Magyarlapos, Retteg,
Nagyilonda és környéke. 2 vol. Tel Aviv, é.n.
Rohonc-Rechnitz
Schneider Sándor A rohonci zsidók 1848. évi összeírása. Szombat-hely, 1939

S
Sárospatak
Grünwald Fülöp-Harsányi László-Schück Jenõ Öt község. Budapest,
1972
Asher Zohar (Fényes) Emlékfoszlányok - A sárospataki zsidó hitközségrõl a
Holocaust elõtt. Beer-Sevá, 1993
Sátoraljaújhely-Ihel-Ohel
Meir Sas History and Tragic Fate of Jews in Ujhely and Zemplén. 1986
Siófok
Matyikó Sebestyén József Zsidók Siófokon. Debrecen,
Sopron
Raab Márton A sopron megyei zsidóság múltjáról és jelenérõl. Sopron,
1958
Pollák Miksa A zsidók története Sopronban. Budapest, 1896
Pollák Miksa Die Geschichte der Juden in Oedenburg. Wien, 1929

In the eighth installment, I am sending works that cover individual communities

from countries which used to be part of historical Hungary >from NY to S.

NY
Nyíregyháza
Király Aladár A nyíregyházi gettó története Nyíregyháza, 1946
Harsányi László A nyíregyházi zsidók története. In: MIOK Évkönyv 1973-1974.
Budapest, 1974
Gervai Sándor Nyíregyháza zsidóság története. 1963

P
Paks
Grünwald Fülöp-Harsányi László-Schück Jenõ Öt község. Budapest,
1972
D. Sofer Mazkeret Paks. Jerusalem, 1962
Pápa
Jehuda Gyula Lang A pápai zsidóság emlékkönyve. Tel Aviv, é.n. (1974)
Pécs-Fünfkirchen
Weisz Gábor A Pécsi Izr. Hitközség monográfiája. Pécs, 1929
Polgár László Könnyek könyve. 1940-1945. Pécs
Schweitzer József A pécsi hitközség a deportálás és felszabadítás idõszakában.
In: Új Élet Naptár 1960-1961. Budapest, 1961
Schweitzer József A pécsi izraelita hitközség története. Budapest, 1966
Dr. Stark András, dr. Vargha Dezsõ Emlékkönyv a pécs-baranyai szidóság
deportálásának 50. évfordulójára. Pécs, 1994
Porcsalma
Sh. Friedmann Sefer yizkor lekedoshei Csenger, Porcsalma vehaseviva Tel
Aviv, 1966
Pöstyén-Piestany
Sh. Grünwald Gedenkbuch der Gemeinden Piestany und Umgebung.
Jerusalem, 1969
Pozsony-Pressburg-Bratislava
Fishman, Y.L.Hacohen Arim veimahot beyisrael vol.7:
Pozsony-Pressburg-Bratislava Jerusalem, 1960
Hugo Gold (szerk.) Die Juden und die Judengemeinde Bratislava in
Vergangenheit und Gegenwart. Brünn, 1932
O. Faust Zur Geschichte der Juden in Bratislava. In: Jüdische Folkzeitung. X.
1928. Nos. 39-40.
H. Flesch Die Juden und die Judengemeinde Bratislava.

R
Rákospalota (Budapest)
Áhároni (Duschinsky) Ráchel A rákospalotai zsidó hitközség története. Tel
Aviv, 1978
Retteg
Singer Zoltán Volt egyszer egy Dés...Bethlen, Magyarlapos, Retteg,
Nagyilonda és környéke. 2 vol. Tel Aviv, é.n.
Rohonc-Rechnitz
Schneider Sándor A rohonci zsidók 1848. évi összeírása. Szombat-hely, 1939

S
Sárospatak
Grünwald Fülöp-Harsányi László-Schück Jenõ Öt község. Budapest,
1972
Asher Zohar (Fényes) Emlékfoszlányok - A sárospataki zsidó hitközségrõl a
Holocaust elõtt. Beer-Sevá, 1993
Sátoraljaújhely-Ihel-Ohel
Meir Sas History and Tragic Fate of Jews in Ujhely and Zemplén. 1986
Siófok
Matyikó Sebestyén József Zsidók Siófokon. Debrecen,
Sopron
Raab Márton A sopron megyei zsidóság múltjáról és jelenérõl. Sopron,
1958
Pollák Miksa A zsidók története Sopronban. Budapest, 1896
Pollák Miksa Die Geschichte der Juden in Oedenburg. Wien, 1929

Searching for MEINHARD/dt/t >from the eastern part of Galicia preferably

from near the town of Chortkov/Czortkow. Looking for the decendents of

Max and Rosa Meinhardt (who had come to the U.S. around 1895) and their
children Ruth (or Becky, or Bertha), William, Charles, and Edward, all
born in Newark, NJ. Ruth married about 1918. William moved to NY City
about 1927. Charles became a physician and went to interne in Boston
about 1939. Edward moved to Brooklyn about 1935. (My grandmother was
Max's sister.)
Dr. Howard M. Relles
Schenectady, NY

Searching for MEINHARD/dt/t >from the eastern part of Galicia preferably

from near the town of Chortkov/Czortkow. Looking for the decendents of

Max and Rosa Meinhardt (who had come to the U.S. around 1895) and their
children Ruth (or Becky, or Bertha), William, Charles, and Edward, all
born in Newark, NJ. Ruth married about 1918. William moved to NY City
about 1927. Charles became a physician and went to interne in Boston
about 1939. Edward moved to Brooklyn about 1935. (My grandmother was
Max's sister.)
Dr. Howard M. Relles
Schenectady, NY

I continue to be disappointed by the amount of bile that flows through
LitvakSIG. . I am not referring to the off-subject posting fiasco of a few
weeks ago, but rather to the way some novices have been treated by at least
two core members of the LitvakSIG.

Sure, unrealistic and zealous ideas >from novices are not always enjoyable to
deal with. But every single one of us was there once. If someone is wrong, we
should explain why in way that would benefit the readers. Never should we
discourage asking pertinent questions or making earnest suggestions.

John Miller's translation of the proceedings >from the 1996 "Jews of Anyksciai
Conference" features a speaker complaining about "the Jewish need to
contradict". My thought was that this guy just might have a point. One of
our less admirable cultural traits is the tendency to believe that we rack up
"points" for being right- often at the expense of others. I sure hate to see
ugly stereotypes being perpetuated by our own actions.

The novices need to be taught, coached, and otherwise gently nudged into
reality. It is only with their energies and talents that we will continue to
thrive.

-Bret Schneider
Portola Valley, California

Researching:
SCHNEIDER, FRIEDMAN >from Anyksciai (Lithuania)
TANEFSKY >from Pilviskai, Marijampole (Lithuania)
GEDALKA >from Lagow (Poland)
SHAFFER >from Bodzentyn, Kielce (Poland), Chicago (USA)
HANDELSMAN >from Poland
Also specifically searching for:
Harry Tanner and son Eddie Tanner of Los Angeles (circa 1945)
Chana "Anna" Gedalka Shapiro of Brooklyn (circa 1955)
"Mrs. Barnett Silverman" (maiden name Tanefsky) of New York, (circa 1948)

I continue to be disappointed by the amount of bile that flows through
LitvakSIG. . I am not referring to the off-subject posting fiasco of a few
weeks ago, but rather to the way some novices have been treated by at least
two core members of the LitvakSIG.

Sure, unrealistic and zealous ideas >from novices are not always enjoyable to
deal with. But every single one of us was there once. If someone is wrong, we
should explain why in way that would benefit the readers. Never should we
discourage asking pertinent questions or making earnest suggestions.

John Miller's translation of the proceedings >from the 1996 "Jews of Anyksciai
Conference" features a speaker complaining about "the Jewish need to
contradict". My thought was that this guy just might have a point. One of
our less admirable cultural traits is the tendency to believe that we rack up
"points" for being right- often at the expense of others. I sure hate to see
ugly stereotypes being perpetuated by our own actions.

The novices need to be taught, coached, and otherwise gently nudged into
reality. It is only with their energies and talents that we will continue to
thrive.

-Bret Schneider
Portola Valley, California

Researching:
SCHNEIDER, FRIEDMAN >from Anyksciai (Lithuania)
TANEFSKY >from Pilviskai, Marijampole (Lithuania)
GEDALKA >from Lagow (Poland)
SHAFFER >from Bodzentyn, Kielce (Poland), Chicago (USA)
HANDELSMAN >from Poland
Also specifically searching for:
Harry Tanner and son Eddie Tanner of Los Angeles (circa 1945)
Chana "Anna" Gedalka Shapiro of Brooklyn (circa 1955)
"Mrs. Barnett Silverman" (maiden name Tanefsky) of New York, (circa 1948)

Searching for Relles and Doliner (>from eastern Galicia) and Mindlin,
Puch, and Zugman (>from Belarus)
Dr. Howard M. Relles
Schenectady, NY

Searching for Relles and Doliner (>from eastern Galicia) and Mindlin,
Puch, and Zugman (>from Belarus)
Dr. Howard M. Relles
Schenectady, NY

I am researching:
KAPLAN >from Minsk
USLAN >from Uzlany (about 40 mi. SE of Minsk)
PRESSMAN >from Vileyka
RABINOWITZ with variant spellings >from Vileyka

Diane FRANKEL
North Miami Beach, FL
dfrankel@icanect.net

I am researching:
KAPLAN >from Minsk
USLAN >from Uzlany (about 40 mi. SE of Minsk)
PRESSMAN >from Vileyka
RABINOWITZ with variant spellings >from Vileyka

Diane FRANKEL
North Miami Beach, FL
dfrankel@icanect.net

Dear Geoff:

Posen is the name of the city when it was Germany territory.
It's present, Polish, name is Poznan.

It is located approximately 52 degrees, 25 minutes North/
16 degrees, 53 minutes East.
It is located in the Grand Duchy of Posen.

It is a pretty big town; it even has its own web site:

http://www.umig.szamotuly.pl/geografia.htm

You can see it on an internet map of the area >from the 1800's
(with the old, German, names) if you go to the web site of the
Federation of East European Family History Societies at:

http://feefhs.org

then go to the MAP ROOM

and click on to the section called POSEN. (I'm not sure about this last
part--it might be POLAND, or GERMANY first, and then POSEN.)

There is a book that might be helpful to you: It is called "The Naturalized
Jews of the Grand Duchy of Posen in 1834 and 1835" by Edward David Luft.
This book lists a large number of Jews who were naturalized in that town
at that time. If your ancestors were there at this time, you MIGHT find their
names on this list.

You may be able to find a copy of this book at your local library. If they
don't
have it, they may be able to obtain it for you through an inter-library loan

Good luck in your search.

Barbara Algaze
Algaze@aol.com
Los Angeles, California

(SEARCHING NAMES: COHN, HAUSDORF, KANTOROWITZ/KANTOROWICZ, PINCUS, SEELIG,
KRONHEIM, TREUENFELZ)


<< Subject: Information
From: "Geoff Shrimski" <scuba@intercoast.com.au>
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 07:54:55 +1000
X-Message-Number: 3

Could you please tell me where Posen is in Poland, if that is the =
correct spelling. My family apparently originated >from Posen and I can't =
find any information, or locate this place.

Many thanks !

Kind regards

Dear Geoff:

Posen is the name of the city when it was Germany territory.
It's present, Polish, name is Poznan.

It is located approximately 52 degrees, 25 minutes North/
16 degrees, 53 minutes East.
It is located in the Grand Duchy of Posen.

It is a pretty big town; it even has its own web site:

http://www.umig.szamotuly.pl/geografia.htm

You can see it on an internet map of the area >from the 1800's
(with the old, German, names) if you go to the web site of the
Federation of East European Family History Societies at:

http://feefhs.org

then go to the MAP ROOM

and click on to the section called POSEN. (I'm not sure about this last
part--it might be POLAND, or GERMANY first, and then POSEN.)

There is a book that might be helpful to you: It is called "The Naturalized
Jews of the Grand Duchy of Posen in 1834 and 1835" by Edward David Luft.
This book lists a large number of Jews who were naturalized in that town
at that time. If your ancestors were there at this time, you MIGHT find their
names on this list.

You may be able to find a copy of this book at your local library. If they
don't
have it, they may be able to obtain it for you through an inter-library loan

Good luck in your search.

Barbara Algaze
Algaze@aol.com
Los Angeles, California

(SEARCHING NAMES: COHN, HAUSDORF, KANTOROWITZ/KANTOROWICZ, PINCUS, SEELIG,
KRONHEIM, TREUENFELZ)


<< Subject: Information
From: "Geoff Shrimski" <scuba@intercoast.com.au>
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 07:54:55 +1000
X-Message-Number: 3

Could you please tell me where Posen is in Poland, if that is the =
correct spelling. My family apparently originated >from Posen and I can't =
find any information, or locate this place.

Many thanks !

Kind regards

Hello Fellow Litvaks,

I recently joined this mailing list and it is the first forum
specifically for Litvaks which I have found thus far.
It has only been for the past few years that I have been studying
Lithuanian history, in particular the part dealing with Jewish culture in
that area of Eastern Europe.
Last year, I subscribed to a mailing list for Lithuanian genealogy
and was able to discuss the role of Jewish ancestors with the list
members... Many of us had similar stories to share; a great number of us
had suspicions that our Lithuanian immigrant ancestors were Jewish and
that, for some reason, they either hid or lost their Jewishness upon
immigrating to the United States.
Now, I am aware that this is both a confusing and sensitive topic,
however I am greatly interested in finding out more about such phenomena
because of my own family story:
My grandfather (who died before I was born) immigrated to the U.S.

from Lithuania in the early 1900's (obviously before WWII) and his

original surname was Lipkiewicz-- later changed to "Lipkus." He spoke
seven languages fluently-- as many >from Eastern Europe did-- one of which
being Hebrew or Yiddish. My grandfather met, fell in love with, and
married my French Canadian, Catholic grandmother and their children
(including my father) were then all raised at Catholics. (As per the
tradition of children taking the mother's religion?) Neither of my
grandparents spoke English as a first language, they were both first
generation immigrants to the U.S., and the details as to what went on
during the melding of their two cultures through marriage is obviously
unknown to me. (I am a 23-year-old graduate student who is researching
this topic with little help >from my family.)
What peaked my interest as to whether or not my grandfather was in
fact a "Litvak" is this poignant, sensitive, confusing, and
thought-provoking family story:
Apparently, while my grandfather was on his death bed, dying
from--I believe-- Parkinson's disease-- he started mumbling something to
himself in Hebrew. The doctor then entered the waiting room and told my
mother, "Mrs. Lipkus, I think you better call your Rabbi; your
father-in-law is dying." My mother then said, "Rabbi? But... he's
Catholic?!"
Being raised Catholic myself, I do not know many details about
Judaism. I only recently learned about Kaddish and other Jewish prayers
for the dead of dying. I've pondered endlessly as to what could have gone
on during the course of Lithuanian history, during the course of my
grandather's own life and in his process of immigration, and also what
went on during my grandparent's marriage that could have possibly led my
grandfather to possibly cover or lose contact with his religion.
If anyone has input of information for me, please respond. I have
been researching the topic of Lithuanian Jews for some time now and still
can't piece everthing together. I'd appreciate any feedback.

Thank you very much,

Charlene D. Lipkus <cdlipkus@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Buffalo, NY
USA

Hello Fellow Litvaks,

I recently joined this mailing list and it is the first forum
specifically for Litvaks which I have found thus far.
It has only been for the past few years that I have been studying
Lithuanian history, in particular the part dealing with Jewish culture in
that area of Eastern Europe.
Last year, I subscribed to a mailing list for Lithuanian genealogy
and was able to discuss the role of Jewish ancestors with the list
members... Many of us had similar stories to share; a great number of us
had suspicions that our Lithuanian immigrant ancestors were Jewish and
that, for some reason, they either hid or lost their Jewishness upon
immigrating to the United States.
Now, I am aware that this is both a confusing and sensitive topic,
however I am greatly interested in finding out more about such phenomena
because of my own family story:
My grandfather (who died before I was born) immigrated to the U.S.

from Lithuania in the early 1900's (obviously before WWII) and his

original surname was Lipkiewicz-- later changed to "Lipkus." He spoke
seven languages fluently-- as many >from Eastern Europe did-- one of which
being Hebrew or Yiddish. My grandfather met, fell in love with, and
married my French Canadian, Catholic grandmother and their children
(including my father) were then all raised at Catholics. (As per the
tradition of children taking the mother's religion?) Neither of my
grandparents spoke English as a first language, they were both first
generation immigrants to the U.S., and the details as to what went on
during the melding of their two cultures through marriage is obviously
unknown to me. (I am a 23-year-old graduate student who is researching
this topic with little help >from my family.)
What peaked my interest as to whether or not my grandfather was in
fact a "Litvak" is this poignant, sensitive, confusing, and
thought-provoking family story:
Apparently, while my grandfather was on his death bed, dying
from--I believe-- Parkinson's disease-- he started mumbling something to
himself in Hebrew. The doctor then entered the waiting room and told my
mother, "Mrs. Lipkus, I think you better call your Rabbi; your
father-in-law is dying." My mother then said, "Rabbi? But... he's
Catholic?!"
Being raised Catholic myself, I do not know many details about
Judaism. I only recently learned about Kaddish and other Jewish prayers
for the dead of dying. I've pondered endlessly as to what could have gone
on during the course of Lithuanian history, during the course of my
grandather's own life and in his process of immigration, and also what
went on during my grandparent's marriage that could have possibly led my
grandfather to possibly cover or lose contact with his religion.
If anyone has input of information for me, please respond. I have
been researching the topic of Lithuanian Jews for some time now and still
can't piece everthing together. I'd appreciate any feedback.

Thank you very much,

Charlene D. Lipkus <cdlipkus@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Buffalo, NY
USA

I am looking for information about
Rabbi Meir -Eliezer Hartshtein-Rapaport
of Frankfurt Germany in the end of the 19 century; He is the son of
Rabbi Avraham Abali >from Ihal who wrote the book/manuscript "Kol omer
kra"
Rabbi Avraham Abali's father was Rabbi Pinchas-Arie Sameater >from Ihal
who died in 19.4.1843.

Rabbi Meir -Eliezer Hartshtein-Rapaport wrote a book/manuscript named:
"Beit avot" which I did not find in the national library in Jerusalem
as well as other magor libraries in the US.

If any one knows more about this family or one can find the book
mentioned above Please let me know

Thanks
Hanan Rapaport

Via:
Avraham Steiner
steinera@moc.gov.il

I am looking for information about
Rabbi Meir -Eliezer Hartshtein-Rapaport
of Frankfurt Germany in the end of the 19 century; He is the son of
Rabbi Avraham Abali >from Ihal who wrote the book/manuscript "Kol omer
kra"
Rabbi Avraham Abali's father was Rabbi Pinchas-Arie Sameater >from Ihal
who died in 19.4.1843.

Rabbi Meir -Eliezer Hartshtein-Rapaport wrote a book/manuscript named:
"Beit avot" which I did not find in the national library in Jerusalem
as well as other magor libraries in the US.

If any one knows more about this family or one can find the book
mentioned above Please let me know

Thanks
Hanan Rapaport

Via:
Avraham Steiner
steinera@moc.gov.il