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Re: Searching for descendants of Martha and Georg ZACHARIAS and Lena and Moritz ZACHARIAS #israel

Roger Browdy
 

My wife's father's mother was born Golda Scharios in Krynki, Poland, and later moved to Bialystok, where she married Yoel Suchonitzki and eventually moved to Palestine.  Her siblings were Julius, Joseph, Louis and Sarah.  The men came to America and changed their name to Siegel.  Her father's name was David Scharios.  The Hebrew name on his headstone transliterates to Zacharit.  These could very well be the same family.  Does your family have roots in Bialystok or Krynki?  I also know another family that is researching Zacharios.  Contact me.

Roger Browdy
Kensington, MD
rlbrowdy@...


Yiddish Language Instructions - Duolingo #yiddish

bobmalakoff@...
 

I don't know if this is appropriate or not but Duolingo has just offered a Yiddish Language course at www.duolingo.com 
I had been using it for learning other languages, but when the Yiddish course was released I had to try it.  The service is free with ads or there is a yearly subscription option.  Other than being a customer, my only connection with the company is they are located in Pittsburgh.
Bob Malakoff
Pittsburgh, PA


Looking for the marriage record of my great grandparents #records #galicia

left twist
 

Morris Presser and Pearl Edelsberg [American names] were married in Kotyczynce, Galicia, Austria (modern Kopychyntsi, Ternopil, Ukraine) on 10 Jun 1908, according to their divorce papers.

 

Their names may be Moses Presser and Pipi Edelsberg. Morris was a barber. This was his second marriage and her first.

 

Howard R. Presser

 


Re: How to correct errors in JewishGen database? #hungary #general

Susan&David
 

If you drill down to the information/introduction page of a particular data base you will often see the clickable name of the person responsible for its compilation. Send that person a message. 

David Rosen
Boston, MA

On 5/13/2021 4:21 PM, Dan Rottenberg wrote:
Is there a mechanism for alerting JewishGen to errors one finds in the database? I believe I've found such an error but don't know how to proceed.

Specifically, I found this death record:

1881 Hungary death: Lipot Wiesenberger, age 53, no parents listed, died 9 January 1881 at Budapest. Record #323-12. Born Kio (sic), palinka vendor; wife RIESZ Terez. LDS 642983, Vol. 52.

This man could not have died in 1881 because he fathered children born in 1882, 1884, 1887, and 1889. Moreover, the LDS Film # would seem to suggest he died in 1891, not 1881.

I suspect this is simply a case of a transcription error— the death year should read 1891, not 1881. But how does one go about correcting such errors?

Dan Rottenberg
Philadelphia PA USA
dan@...

 


JOWBR & Memorial Plaques Submission Reminder #JewishGenUpdates

Nolan Altman
 

Hi all,

 

Just a reminder that if you would like to submit your data / photos for the June “pre-Conference” update, the due date is May 31st.  After June, the next semi-annual update will take place at calendar year-end and will include all data and photos received by November 30th.

 

If you have any questions, please contact me.

 

Nolan Altman


How to correct errors in JewishGen database? #hungary #general

Dan Rottenberg
 

Is there a mechanism for alerting JewishGen to errors one finds in the database? I believe I've found such an error but don't know how to proceed.

Specifically, I found this death record:

1881 Hungary death: Lipot Wiesenberger, age 53, no parents listed, died 9 January 1881 at Budapest. Record #323-12. Born Kio (sic), palinka vendor; wife RIESZ Terez. LDS 642983, Vol. 52.

This man could not have died in 1881 because he fathered children born in 1882, 1884, 1887, and 1889. Moreover, the LDS Film # would seem to suggest he died in 1891, not 1881.

I suspect this is simply a case of a transcription error— the death year should read 1891, not 1881. But how does one go about correcting such errors?

Dan Rottenberg
Philadelphia PA USA
dan@...

 


Looking for obituary of MARCEL BRZOSTOWSKI #france #holocaust

spetracek5105@...
 

I am trying to track down an obituary for Marcel Brzostowski.  From what I can determine, he passed away around 1 June 1995 in the region of Grasse, Alpes-Maritimes, Provence-Alpes-Cote d'Azor France.  I have been unable to find any newspaper or any form of documentation describing his life in a typical obituary I am expecting.  Any thoughts on newspapers or other sources in the region would be appreciated.  Thank you.
--
Steve Petracek
spetracek5105@...


A Taste of Polish Jewish Genealogy from Krakow: June 6th #galicia #announcements #events #poland

Leah Kushner
 

Santa Cruz Jewish Genealogy Society Invites you: 

A Taste of Jewish Genealogy as a Gateway to the

            Civilization of Polish Jewry

with Tomasz Cebulski Ph.D., Professional Genealogist from Krakow
Sunday, 06 June 2021
at 1pm Pacific Daylight Time/4pm Eastern Time
You will receive a ZOOM link the week of the event. Please check your SPAM.

Description:  
Tomasz joins us from Krakow for this program on why, when, and how to

conduct genealogical research. Tomasz will share his favorite online resources

before demonstrating how he combines research, maps, photography, video and

drone documentation in search of Polish Jewry. We will make a virtual visit to

Brzesko in former Galicia, once a vibrant center of Jewish life.

Bio:  Tomasz Cebulski Ph.D., has worked professionally as a Jewish genealogist for

over 20-years perfecting his knowledge on archival resources in Poland and Central

Europe. He is a scholar in genocide studies and changing patterns of Holocaust and

Auschwitz memory. Tomasz is a historical memory analyst, guide and author of

"Auschwitz after Auschwitz". He is the founder of Polin Travel and Sky Heritage

Pictures.

For more information or membership: SCJGSociety@...

Leah Kushner,
President:  SCJGS  



Re: Pew Research Center New Study on American Jews #announcements #general #usa

Bruce Drake
 

As I mentioned yesterday, Pew Research Center has a follow up post to the report on Jewish-Americans it issue earlier this week.

Jews in U.S. are far less religious than Christians and Americans overall, at least by traditional measures https://pewrsr.ch/3tLMxxN

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring MD


Re: football team from Bialystok 1924 #poland

Diego
 

Hello,

I'd like to find someone who have family who played in the jewish
football team ZKS. You can view a picture of the team:
https://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/memberadmin/submissionsview.asp?ID=91143

My grandfather, Berko Bialostozky played in this team. Around 1924 or
1925 he left for Buenos Aires, Argentina
--
Diego Schvarzstein
Reserching Schvarzstein from Polonne and Lyubar, Fainsod from Bialystok


STERN family of Malsch, Landkreis Karlsruhe #germany

Ralph Baer
 

Is anyone researching or have information about the STERN family of Malsch in the present-day Landkreis (County of) Karlsruhe, Baden-Württemberg, Germany? 
 
I recently found out that the STERN name adopter Joseph Isaak (about 1751 – 19 February 1816 Malsch) was a stepbrother of Marx Nathan, my ancestor who, along with his brother Abraham Nathan, adopted the family name BÄR (BAER) in 1809 in Malsch. It would not surprise me if Joseph was also their first cousin, perhaps a son of their maternal uncle Isaac Abraham who apparently disappeared from Malsch records after being denied Schutz (rights of residence, marry, etc.) in 1745.
 
A member if the STERN family of Malsch was the historian Selma STERN-TÄUBLER who was born in Kippenheim.
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Ralph N. Baer        RalphNBaer@...       Washington, DC


Re: Hebrew Cemetery, Asbury Park NJ #usa

Laurie Sosna
 

Hi everyone,

First and always, I thank you all for your help. You're so generous with your time and I am so grateful.

Getting a death certificate would be the best way to track him, but he died in 1933. Elena's flowchart (an excellent resource!) stops at 1930.

The death notice doesn't provide many details: Asbury Park Press, April 27 1933:
"Meyer Levitz, 61, a shoemaker at 807 1/2 Main street, Bradley Beach, died last night. He is survived by his widow, four sons and a daughter. Funeral services are being held this afternoon at 3 o'clock at the late home. Interment will be made in the Hebrew cemetery by Funeral Director Harry J. Bodine."
His widow was his second wife, Ida. She lived in Asbury Park until her death in 1945.
His first wife, Lena, divorced him in 1917.
He married Ida in Brooklyn in 1919.
He and Ida moved to Asbury Park in 1920, he's in the city directories.
None of his children lived in NJ. His eldest son Nathan Levitz, lived in Brooklyn until about 1945 and may have been in contact with Meyer, I can't verify that.
By 1922, Lena and his other children, Louis, Sam, Fannie and Abraham lived in California.

I emailed the Ely Funeral Home yesterday, I received a reply this morning, they did not purchase Bodine.
Bloomfield Cooper is now owned by Dignity Memorials, a subsidiary of Service Corporation International (SCI), the largest funeral provider in the U.S.
They are not known for keeping records that far back.
SCI also owns the Neptune Society and the Trident Society.
I'm going to contact the other congregations, maybe they can help. Thank you for sharing those leads.

We'll see where it takes me.

Laurie Sosna
San Francisco, CA


Family from Kalwarija #poland

neville silverston
 

My paternal grandfather, Meir Neitan Silverstone (?Zylberstein) married Clara Rogovski in Kalwarija (? Poland or Lithuania) on 15th October, 1881. Their first child, my Aunt Jessie, was born at 5 West Place, Edinburgh, Scotland on 5th March, 1883.  They moved to Manchester, Lancashire, and had nine further children. My father was the eighth.  The 1891 Census shows that his brother, Isaac, and fiancee, Clara Rosenfeld, were living with them and they married in September, 1891.

From then on I have the full history of both families but I have not been able to find any records of the three families in Kalwarija, Lithuania. Meir and Isaac's, father, Jacob, was described as a Rabbi on Isaac's Marriage Certificate.

I assume that Meir and Clara crossed the North Sea and arrived in the Port of Leith and that Clara was pregnant at the time so settled in Edinburgh to have the baby.  I have always assumed that they came from Lithuania as my Mother's brother whose family came from Latvia, told me shortly before he passed, that they almost went into mourning when my mother declared that she was about to marry a Litvak!

Is anyone reading these abbreviated details able to fill in some of the  blanks on the origins of my grandfather and great uncle and their wives?  I would be very grateful.

Neville Silverston
Cambridge. UK
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Re: does anyone know this Yiddish expression? #yiddish

Rafael.Manory@...
 

From: Rafael Manory, PhD

Thanks Yitschok Margaretn for the detailed explanation. I was going to write that it is a Hebrew proverb, not an Yiddish one, and I also was aware of its  Talmudic origin. I am not aware of an English equivalent other than the direct translation. In Israel the expression is commonly used and  is traced to Pirkei Avot, as indicated.

Rafael Manory, PhD


Re: requests for translations #translation

Rafael.Manory@...
 

I have doing such transllations for years and never asked for payment, even though I am now a professional editor and translator.

Best regards

Rafael Manory, PhD


Re: Hebrew Cemetery, Asbury Park NJ #usa

Elana Broch
 

I'd suggest contacting Regina Fitzpatrick rfitzpatrick@njstatelib.org.  We have been working on a presentation on finding your dead relatives in NJ. I can send you her handy dandy cheat sheet, but I wasn't sure I could post an image on this website.   I ordered a death record months ago, but the archives are very much shut down.  


--
Elana Broch
Lawrenceville, NJ
elanabroch@...


In the Danzig addresses of the PERLBACH family there is Zugangsingel 5 which may have been a house of ill repute, was it and did the street name later on become Jopengasse? #gdansk

r.peeters
 

Among the various addresses for Joseph Levin PERLBACH I see Judengasse as the first one and later on different numbers at Jopengasse which may have been a matter of renumbering or not. Jopengasse Number 54 was acquired from the Schopenhauer family, they seemed far better premises than those of the one in the photo of Jopengasse 55 (ul. Piwna) which I found in an other file.
Can someone enlighten me?
Ron Peeters (NL)


Old Disease Names Frequently Found on Death Certificates: What Would They be Called Today? #names #general

Phil Goldfarb
 

The following came from Dick Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter today and might be useful to JewishGen Discussion Group members. As a 4th generation pharmacist and researcher for 35+ years, I did not know many of these!

Old Disease Names Frequently Found on Death Certificates: What Would They be Called Today?
  If you find a death certificate for great-great-grandma and it lists the cause of death as "Hectical Complaint," you probably will ask, "What's that?" Luckily, there is a one-page "dictionary" on USGenNet that can be a very useful tool for any genealogist who is reading old documents. It shows old medical terminology and then shows the modern-day name for each. You can find Old Disease Names Frequently found on Death Certificates at http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ar/county/greene/olddiseases1.htm


Phil Goldfarb
phil.goldfarb@...
President, JGS of Tulsa


Hebrew translation volunteer for cemetery project #usa #translation

A. E. Jordan
 

Hi
 
I have photographed a few cemetery plots which are entirely in Hebrew. Unfortunately it is beyond my time and Hebrew skills to translate the entire plot so what I was hoping is that someone might work with me so that the plot could be translated and put into a database. Ultimately it can get into the burial database so people can find the stones.
 
The first plot I have is 124 photos although some might be duplicates, unreadable, etc. I actually have a few such plots sitting on my computer waiting for attention beyond this one too.
 
What I am thinking is that I can upload the raw photos to someone along with the data from the cemetery either in a Word or spreadsheet document. Then it requires going through each photo and translating it and matching it to the listing and entering the Hebrew translated data to form the database. So you need Hebrew skills and some computer skills and available time. I appreciate everyone's enthusiasm to help but this requires good Hebrew skills as it is not really something to be practice on.
 
If anyone is interested email me off the list at aejordan at aol dot com and we can discuss what is involved.
 
Thank you.
 
Allan Jordan
New York
 


Re: What would be the correct Bar Mitzvah date in 1961 #general

David
 

A lot of details have been given on this thread concerning the orthodox and traditional way of doing things, and I want to add some more insights regarding this.

A) As someone correctly pointed out, also within orthodox Judaism, the concept of having a big party and the bar mitzva boy reading from the Torah and/or being called up for maphtir (i.e saying the haphtara) is relatively recent - maybe a few hundred years. Also among some  Eastern Sephardi communities (Aidot HaMizrach), a child from the age of nine or ten is already allowed to be called up for maphtir and say the haphtara, so this would not be a great deal with respect to Bar Mitzva which is age of 13, and the honors for a bar-mitzva boy in these communities is more towards reading from the Torah or leading the prayers.  

B) With regards to the party, then among the very orthodox and now-a-days this is becoming more main-stream, it has become common place to make the main party on the Hebrew birthday date itself. Then the first call up, might be the next Monday or Thursday depending on the day of the week (or Rosh Hodesh) as has already been mentioned - and with this maybe a small celebration.

C) During the last Corona year with the uncertainties involved, I have seen a few bar-mitzva boys from "Rabbinical" families, make do with a simple call up on Shabbat so they should not spend hours learning to read the parsha from the Torah only to find the Health regulations, when the day arrives, not allowing to have a minyan (quorum of ten men).

D) On a personal note - I was brought up in a household that kind of defined itself as "semi-traditional". So, the issues that bothered my parents, in the early 1970s in London,UK,  were:-

1) I was born on what is last day of Pesach in the diaspora. The issue was that the Rabbi's son was born a day or so after me, and my parent's realized that I would be completely out shadowed if I was called up on the next Shabbat.

2) It was expected that the main celebration would be on the Sunday following the Shabbat that I was being called up, since there were people coming from out of town and would be staying a few nights in London.

3) In England, it is the primary custom to keep the semi-mourning period of the Omer starting from the first day of Iyar, with a break on the semi-festival of lag ba'omer (33rd day of the Counting of the Omer). This would mean, that the main celebration (which to a certain extent had to conform to the religious issues) could not take place on this delayed date, as they wanted a band because that is what "everyone else" does. 

4) So in the end, I was called up on the Shabbat preceding lag ba'omer and the main party was on lag ba'omer which was a Sunday that year.

Although, from my parents' point of view they wanted to give as much honor to the situation as they could, if I was in charge as a parent as I am now, I would have made the flow a whole lot simpler, regardless of with whom a bar-mitzva shabbat might be shared or how to schedule the party. I was at a bar-mitzva party once, that was during the mourning period of the Omer, and instead of a band, there were "Swingle Singers" who enhanced the occasion.
 
--
David Ziants

Ma'aleh Adumim, Israel

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