Date   

Re: ship's manifests and the Ellis Island "names myth" #general

Jules Levin
 

At 03:16 PM 8/17/2010, you wrote:
Further to Chuck Weinstein's explanation of how strange sounding European
and Yiddish names were changed once our ancestors hit dry land, often with
the prodding of helpful relatives and schoolteachers, often these new
immigrants also changed the names of their ancestors -- back in the old
country-- in absentia and /or by proxy.

You have only to look at marriage and death records >from the turn of the
century to know that the names of the parents of newlyweds or the deceased
(many of whom never left the shtetl) began appearing as Louis, Lazurus and
Marcus or Sadie, Ruth, Rose or Paulina, instead of Leib, Leiser, Moishe,
and Sera, Ruchel, Rezi, Perel, etc. This leads to double duty for
genealogists trying to go back several generations who must examine the
thought process behind why their great-grandparents felt it also necessary
to change the names of their parents who never made it to this side of the
world.
Not every new immigrant came >from a Fiddler on the Roof shtetl. By the
end of the 19th Century the larger towns had strong secularizing assimilating
movements, and young Jews were already feeling self-conscious about their
identities. I am convinced that European names were already in use
parallel with their Yiddish names. I am sure of at least two--Julius for
Yehudah (like my grandfather), and Maurice/Mauritz for Moshe (my
greatgrandfather). Towns like Kovno, besides trains and gas lights, had
lending libraries with European novels in Yiddish translation and in the
originals. And by the way, if they had attended even 2 or 3 years
of grammar school, they would have been able to read their own names in
Latin letters, as well as Cyrillic. If they didn't arrive in America
until say 1914, they certainly had some schooling in Russian, and had had
their political consciences "raised" by Maxim Gorky and Chernoshevsky.
Their American children thought them ignorant because they never got
baseball, but they were wrong.
Jules [Yehudah] Levin
Los Angeles


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: ship's manifests and the Ellis Island "names myth" #general

Jules Levin
 

At 03:16 PM 8/17/2010, you wrote:
Further to Chuck Weinstein's explanation of how strange sounding European
and Yiddish names were changed once our ancestors hit dry land, often with
the prodding of helpful relatives and schoolteachers, often these new
immigrants also changed the names of their ancestors -- back in the old
country-- in absentia and /or by proxy.

You have only to look at marriage and death records >from the turn of the
century to know that the names of the parents of newlyweds or the deceased
(many of whom never left the shtetl) began appearing as Louis, Lazurus and
Marcus or Sadie, Ruth, Rose or Paulina, instead of Leib, Leiser, Moishe,
and Sera, Ruchel, Rezi, Perel, etc. This leads to double duty for
genealogists trying to go back several generations who must examine the
thought process behind why their great-grandparents felt it also necessary
to change the names of their parents who never made it to this side of the
world.
Not every new immigrant came >from a Fiddler on the Roof shtetl. By the
end of the 19th Century the larger towns had strong secularizing assimilating
movements, and young Jews were already feeling self-conscious about their
identities. I am convinced that European names were already in use
parallel with their Yiddish names. I am sure of at least two--Julius for
Yehudah (like my grandfather), and Maurice/Mauritz for Moshe (my
greatgrandfather). Towns like Kovno, besides trains and gas lights, had
lending libraries with European novels in Yiddish translation and in the
originals. And by the way, if they had attended even 2 or 3 years
of grammar school, they would have been able to read their own names in
Latin letters, as well as Cyrillic. If they didn't arrive in America
until say 1914, they certainly had some schooling in Russian, and had had
their political consciences "raised" by Maxim Gorky and Chernoshevsky.
Their American children thought them ignorant because they never got
baseball, but they were wrong.
Jules [Yehudah] Levin
Los Angeles


The 2011 United Kingdom Census #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

A census of population has been carried out in Great Britain every 10 years
from 1801 to 2001, except in 1941. The last census released to the public is
the 1911 census due to the 100-year privacy rule. The Office for National
Statistics (ONS) designs, manages and runs the census in England and Wales.
The General Register Office Scotland (GROS) and the Northern Ireland
Statistics and Research Agency (NISRA) are responsible for the census in
Scotland and Northern Ireland. All three have agreed to conduct their 2011
censuses on the same day in order to produce consistent and coherent
information that covers the whole of the UK.

The next census of England and Wales will take place in 2011 and includes a
number of new approaches designed to improve census return rates in all
areas and with all population groups. Information on the 2011 census is
available at:
http://www.ons.gov.uk/census/2011-census/index.html.

To see what the 2011 census will look like go to: http://tinyurl.com/2b8wy8s

The full url may be accessed at:
http://www.ons.gov.uk/census/2011-census/2011-census-questionnaire-content/2011-census-questionnaire-for-england.pdf

Jan Meisels Allen
IAJGS, Director-at-large
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The 2011 United Kingdom Census #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

A census of population has been carried out in Great Britain every 10 years
from 1801 to 2001, except in 1941. The last census released to the public is
the 1911 census due to the 100-year privacy rule. The Office for National
Statistics (ONS) designs, manages and runs the census in England and Wales.
The General Register Office Scotland (GROS) and the Northern Ireland
Statistics and Research Agency (NISRA) are responsible for the census in
Scotland and Northern Ireland. All three have agreed to conduct their 2011
censuses on the same day in order to produce consistent and coherent
information that covers the whole of the UK.

The next census of England and Wales will take place in 2011 and includes a
number of new approaches designed to improve census return rates in all
areas and with all population groups. Information on the 2011 census is
available at:
http://www.ons.gov.uk/census/2011-census/index.html.

To see what the 2011 census will look like go to: http://tinyurl.com/2b8wy8s

The full url may be accessed at:
http://www.ons.gov.uk/census/2011-census/2011-census-questionnaire-content/2011-census-questionnaire-for-england.pdf

Jan Meisels Allen
IAJGS, Director-at-large
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Family Beregovsky #scandinavia

Jules Levin
 

My greatgrandmother was a BEREGOVSKY, Freida bas Shmuel. Her brother
Mendel Vulf ben Shmuel Beregovsky, and her husband
Moshe FAIVOSOVICH, were in business in Kronshtadt and Vyborg. I
suspect a Cantonist connection. There were Beregovskys in Helsinki
before 1892. The extended Beregovsky family was in business around
the Eastern Baltic: graves in Turku and Helsinki, etc.
Right now all I have are a view cemetery records and the Kronshtadt
records. Are there other possible sources in Finland >from the late
19th Century? Directories, police registrations, birth records, etc?
Jules Levin
Los Angeles


Scandinavia SIG #Scandinavia Family Beregovsky #scandinavia

Jules Levin
 

My greatgrandmother was a BEREGOVSKY, Freida bas Shmuel. Her brother
Mendel Vulf ben Shmuel Beregovsky, and her husband
Moshe FAIVOSOVICH, were in business in Kronshtadt and Vyborg. I
suspect a Cantonist connection. There were Beregovskys in Helsinki
before 1892. The extended Beregovsky family was in business around
the Eastern Baltic: graves in Turku and Helsinki, etc.
Right now all I have are a view cemetery records and the Kronshtadt
records. Are there other possible sources in Finland >from the late
19th Century? Directories, police registrations, birth records, etc?
Jules Levin
Los Angeles


Rothenberg: lost message #romania

gitty2@att.net
 

Hi

A few months ago I received a message >from someone looking for info
on my maiden name-Rothenberg( any spelling). I lost her address so if
you remember that message to me, please write. I have some info about
an individual you mentioned.

Gert Lord
Yellow Springs Ohio


Romania SIG #Romania Rothenberg: lost message #romania

gitty2@att.net
 

Hi

A few months ago I received a message >from someone looking for info
on my maiden name-Rothenberg( any spelling). I lost her address so if
you remember that message to me, please write. I have some info about
an individual you mentioned.

Gert Lord
Yellow Springs Ohio


Baruch Bendit GLIKSMAN of Turek #rabbinic

Steven D. Bloom <sbloom@...>
 

I was wondering if anyone can share with me any genealogical details
of the life of R. Baruch GLIKSMAN.

I know he was born in Kolo around 1780, and was the son of Yakov
GLIKSMAN (the death index at JRI for Kolo does mention a Jacob
GLIKSMAN, d. 1828 at age 80, and this could be Baruch's father).
Yakov was known to have married the daughter of Meir, the grandson
of Naftali KATZ.

I'd be interested in either the ancestry of Barch Gliksman, or more
about his descendants. All I really know about them (descendants) is
that one of his great grandsons was Pinchas Zelig Gliksman, the note
rabbinic historian and genealogist.

My personal interest in this is that an ancestor in Piatek, Poland
married an Esther GLIKSMAN (probably daughter of Leib) who lived >from
1787-1869. She married into the rabbinic HALPERN family of that
region (was daughter in law of Reuven Halpern, ABD Glowno, d.1816)

Steven D. Bloom


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Baruch Bendit GLIKSMAN of Turek #rabbinic

Steven D. Bloom <sbloom@...>
 

I was wondering if anyone can share with me any genealogical details
of the life of R. Baruch GLIKSMAN.

I know he was born in Kolo around 1780, and was the son of Yakov
GLIKSMAN (the death index at JRI for Kolo does mention a Jacob
GLIKSMAN, d. 1828 at age 80, and this could be Baruch's father).
Yakov was known to have married the daughter of Meir, the grandson
of Naftali KATZ.

I'd be interested in either the ancestry of Barch Gliksman, or more
about his descendants. All I really know about them (descendants) is
that one of his great grandsons was Pinchas Zelig Gliksman, the note
rabbinic historian and genealogist.

My personal interest in this is that an ancestor in Piatek, Poland
married an Esther GLIKSMAN (probably daughter of Leib) who lived >from
1787-1869. She married into the rabbinic HALPERN family of that
region (was daughter in law of Reuven Halpern, ABD Glowno, d.1816)

Steven D. Bloom


Unbroken Chain-Thank you! #rabbinic

Denise Azbill <famaz1@...>
 

I would like to thank everyone who responded to my query about
"The Unbroken Chain". I received so many responses I can't thank
everyone individually! What a great group of people you are.

Denise Azbill


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Unbroken Chain-Thank you! #rabbinic

Denise Azbill <famaz1@...>
 

I would like to thank everyone who responded to my query about
"The Unbroken Chain". I received so many responses I can't thank
everyone individually! What a great group of people you are.

Denise Azbill


Looking for volunteers #yizkorbooks

Lance Ackerfeld <lance.ackerfeld@...>
 

Shalom,

The Yizkor Book Project currently has the need for volunteers to help copy
data out >from printed lists into Excel worksheets in order to expand our
growing record lists and databases. Now if you have basic familiarity with
Excel, know how to work carefully and, of course, have some time available
to help out, I'd be very pleased to hear >from you.

All the best,
Lance Ackerfeld
Yizkor Book Project Manager


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks Looking for volunteers #yizkorbooks

Lance Ackerfeld <lance.ackerfeld@...>
 

Shalom,

The Yizkor Book Project currently has the need for volunteers to help copy
data out >from printed lists into Excel worksheets in order to expand our
growing record lists and databases. Now if you have basic familiarity with
Excel, know how to work carefully and, of course, have some time available
to help out, I'd be very pleased to hear >from you.

All the best,
Lance Ackerfeld
Yizkor Book Project Manager


Volunteer Spotlight - Barbara Ellman #poland

Groll, Avraham
 

Dear Friends,

Our latest volunteer spotlight has been published on the blog. This
month we honor Barbara Ellman, JewishGen's Technical Coordinator for
ShtetLinks. Please visit www.JewishGen.blogspot.com to read the
complete profile and be sure to leave a note in the comments field
thanking Barbara for all of her hard work.

Kind regards,

Avraham

Avraham Groll
Administrator for JewishGen
Museum of Jewish Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust
36 Battery Place
New York, NY 10280
T 646.437.4326
F 646.437.4328
www.mjhnyc.org
agroll@mjhnyc.org


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Volunteer Spotlight - Barbara Ellman #poland

Groll, Avraham
 

Dear Friends,

Our latest volunteer spotlight has been published on the blog. This
month we honor Barbara Ellman, JewishGen's Technical Coordinator for
ShtetLinks. Please visit www.JewishGen.blogspot.com to read the
complete profile and be sure to leave a note in the comments field
thanking Barbara for all of her hard work.

Kind regards,

Avraham

Avraham Groll
Administrator for JewishGen
Museum of Jewish Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust
36 Battery Place
New York, NY 10280
T 646.437.4326
F 646.437.4328
www.mjhnyc.org
agroll@mjhnyc.org


Volunteer Spotlight - Barbara Ellman #lodz #poland

Groll, Avraham
 

Dear Friends,

Our latest volunteer spotlight has been published on the blog. This
month we honor Barbara Ellman, JewishGen's Technical Coordinator for
ShtetLinks. Please visit www.JewishGen.blogspot.com to read the
complete profile and be sure to leave a note in the comments field
thanking Barbara for all of her hard work.

Kind regards,

Avraham

Avraham Groll
Administrator for JewishGen
Museum of Jewish Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust
36 Battery Place
New York, NY 10280
T 646.437.4326
F 646.437.4328
www.mjhnyc.org
agroll@mjhnyc.org


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Volunteer Spotlight - Barbara Ellman #poland #lodz

Groll, Avraham
 

Dear Friends,

Our latest volunteer spotlight has been published on the blog. This
month we honor Barbara Ellman, JewishGen's Technical Coordinator for
ShtetLinks. Please visit www.JewishGen.blogspot.com to read the
complete profile and be sure to leave a note in the comments field
thanking Barbara for all of her hard work.

Kind regards,

Avraham

Avraham Groll
Administrator for JewishGen
Museum of Jewish Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust
36 Battery Place
New York, NY 10280
T 646.437.4326
F 646.437.4328
www.mjhnyc.org
agroll@mjhnyc.org


Volunteer Spotlight - Barbara Ellman #poland

Groll, Avraham
 

Dear Friends,

JewishGen's latest volunteer spotlight has been published on the blog.
This month we honor Barbara Ellman, JewishGen's Technical Coordinator
for ShtetLinks. Please visit www.JewishGen.blogspot.com to read the
complete profile and be sure to leave a note in the comments field
thanking Barbara for all of her hard work.

Kind regards,

Avraham

Avraham Groll
Administrator for JewishGen
Museum of Jewish Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust
36 Battery Place
New York, NY 10280
T 646.437.4326
F 646.437.4328
www.mjhnyc.org
agroll@mjhnyc.org


JRI Poland #Poland Volunteer Spotlight - Barbara Ellman #poland

Groll, Avraham
 

Dear Friends,

JewishGen's latest volunteer spotlight has been published on the blog.
This month we honor Barbara Ellman, JewishGen's Technical Coordinator
for ShtetLinks. Please visit www.JewishGen.blogspot.com to read the
complete profile and be sure to leave a note in the comments field
thanking Barbara for all of her hard work.

Kind regards,

Avraham

Avraham Groll
Administrator for JewishGen
Museum of Jewish Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust
36 Battery Place
New York, NY 10280
T 646.437.4326
F 646.437.4328
www.mjhnyc.org
agroll@mjhnyc.org