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Search for descendants of Boston Dutch family #usa

Marcy Zaslow
 

Moderator Reminder to All
The family names (last names) of people you are
researching and their relatives should be typed
in all capital letters every time they are included
anywhere in email to this list. No other words should be
typed in all capital letters.

Example: Abraham LINCOLN, >from Kentucky then Springfield, Illinois, United States

=======> Hi Listers:

I am looking for any living descendants of my great great Aunt,
Rosa Roosje Meijer Citroen Slocum Van Dam. Her relations in the US are
tightly woven with the Slocum (Sloog) family. Living descendants are
probably in the Massachusetts or Rhode Island area and possibly in Florida.

I recently found out that Aunt Rosa, sister of my father's paternal
grandmother had come to Boston >from Holland in the 1860's. She first
married Michael Emanuel Slocum and had 4 children with him. She later
married Moses Van Dam and they had one daughter Eva, who did not marry.

Of Rosa's four children with Michael, Elmira remained single. Catherine
or Kate married Jacob M Hamburger, son of Rev MJ Hamburger, and they had
had a daughter Christine (old family name) and a son, Ralph.

Myer married Clara Newman and they had 2 daughters, Rosalie and Ruth.
Isaac married Ceclia Goldsmith and they had one daughter,Eleanor.

from there, my trail goes cold. I have found good information through
the Family Hisory Centers sites and Jewishgen, but after 1930, I have
little to go on except death notices.

If anyone is related to these families or knows someone who is, please
email me privately.

Kind regards Marcy Van Es Zaslow Miami, Florida topaz2mvk@...

Researcing: VAN ES, CITROEN, SLOCUM, HAMBURGER, VAN DAM, DECKER/DEKKER,
HARTOG, DRUKKER, VAN PRAAG, DRUKKER, WOOD/WOODISNSKY, ABAS, KONIGSWINTER


Early American SIG #USA Search for descendants of Boston Dutch family #usa

Marcy Zaslow
 

Moderator Reminder to All
The family names (last names) of people you are
researching and their relatives should be typed
in all capital letters every time they are included
anywhere in email to this list. No other words should be
typed in all capital letters.

Example: Abraham LINCOLN, >from Kentucky then Springfield, Illinois, United States

=======> Hi Listers:

I am looking for any living descendants of my great great Aunt,
Rosa Roosje Meijer Citroen Slocum Van Dam. Her relations in the US are
tightly woven with the Slocum (Sloog) family. Living descendants are
probably in the Massachusetts or Rhode Island area and possibly in Florida.

I recently found out that Aunt Rosa, sister of my father's paternal
grandmother had come to Boston >from Holland in the 1860's. She first
married Michael Emanuel Slocum and had 4 children with him. She later
married Moses Van Dam and they had one daughter Eva, who did not marry.

Of Rosa's four children with Michael, Elmira remained single. Catherine
or Kate married Jacob M Hamburger, son of Rev MJ Hamburger, and they had
had a daughter Christine (old family name) and a son, Ralph.

Myer married Clara Newman and they had 2 daughters, Rosalie and Ruth.
Isaac married Ceclia Goldsmith and they had one daughter,Eleanor.

from there, my trail goes cold. I have found good information through
the Family Hisory Centers sites and Jewishgen, but after 1930, I have
little to go on except death notices.

If anyone is related to these families or knows someone who is, please
email me privately.

Kind regards Marcy Van Es Zaslow Miami, Florida topaz2mvk@...

Researcing: VAN ES, CITROEN, SLOCUM, HAMBURGER, VAN DAM, DECKER/DEKKER,
HARTOG, DRUKKER, VAN PRAAG, DRUKKER, WOOD/WOODISNSKY, ABAS, KONIGSWINTER


Re: The "Tzippur" River In or Near Cecowa, Galicia #galicia

Alexander Sharon
 

Stanley and Shelda Sandler wrote:

Dear Genners,

My grandfather always said he was >from "Tzetziv on the Tzippur
River." I have located the town of Tzetziv (Cecowa) in Tarnopol province
in Galicia. His birth record and those of his immediate family are
together with the records >from Zborow (Tarnopol province). However, the
"Tzippur (or some alternate spelling) River" eludes me. I have scoured
maps with no success. I am aware that "Tzippur" may be the Yiddish name of
the river and/or it may be spelled quite differently >from the way it
sounds (example: Cecowa = Tzetziv). Can anyone locate the "Tzippur" River
on a map and tell me where it is?
Hi folks,

The name of the river is STRYPA [stree pah], it beats me how it
made into "Tzippur."

Cecowa is located on the right bank of the river short distance
downstream >from Zborow (Zborov). BTW, Buczacz (Buchach) is
also located on the Strypa River.

There is a short English write up on the river:

<http://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/pages/S/T/StrypaRiver.htm>

and a more elaborate one with the river's waterfall snapshot at
Buchach on the Ukrainian Russian site:

<http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B0>

During 1915-1916 (WWI period) the Strypa River was a front
line between the Austro-Hungarian and Russian Armies .

Best Regards,

Alexander Sharon
JGFF Editor


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: The "Tzippur" River In or Near Cecowa, Galicia #galicia

Alexander Sharon
 

Stanley and Shelda Sandler wrote:

Dear Genners,

My grandfather always said he was >from "Tzetziv on the Tzippur
River." I have located the town of Tzetziv (Cecowa) in Tarnopol province
in Galicia. His birth record and those of his immediate family are
together with the records >from Zborow (Tarnopol province). However, the
"Tzippur (or some alternate spelling) River" eludes me. I have scoured
maps with no success. I am aware that "Tzippur" may be the Yiddish name of
the river and/or it may be spelled quite differently >from the way it
sounds (example: Cecowa = Tzetziv). Can anyone locate the "Tzippur" River
on a map and tell me where it is?
Hi folks,

The name of the river is STRYPA [stree pah], it beats me how it
made into "Tzippur."

Cecowa is located on the right bank of the river short distance
downstream >from Zborow (Zborov). BTW, Buczacz (Buchach) is
also located on the Strypa River.

There is a short English write up on the river:

<http://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/pages/S/T/StrypaRiver.htm>

and a more elaborate one with the river's waterfall snapshot at
Buchach on the Ukrainian Russian site:

<http://uk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B8%D0%BF%D0%B0>

During 1915-1916 (WWI period) the Strypa River was a front
line between the Austro-Hungarian and Russian Armies .

Best Regards,

Alexander Sharon
JGFF Editor


STELLY-HILMAN-EDELMAYER-KLEIN #usa

Heather Straube <straubeh@...>
 

Good day.

I am searching for information on:

Catherine STELLY/STAEHLE of St. Martinville, LA, daughter of Johann
Jean-Georges STEHLE/ECHSTELLY >from Wagen Wutemberg, Germany (1693).
She married Michel CORMIER.

Johann Stehle had married into this family:

Marie Christine HILMAN-EDELMAYER (NEW ORLEANS 1721), daughter of
Johann Hans Jean ADAM EDELMAYER??? (Reihem, Palatinate, Germany-1669)
and possibly Anna HEIME KLEIN (Weilersham, Alsace, France).

Johann Hans Adam EDELMAYER?, son of Abraham LEMAIRE (Mulhouse, Alsace,
FR -1630) and Verrena HIRTZER (Zurich). Abraham came >from Bernard
LEONHARDT (Mulhouse, Alsace-1600) and Ann CUNEGONDE HEILMANN
(Steinsfurt), daughter of Heinrich HIRTZEL (Reihan).

I am trying to find out why they left Europe and if they were Jewish.

Are names like "Adam" or "Cunegonde" or "Heime" their mother's names
or middle names? Not knowing German- I am confused.

Thank you! -- Heather Straube (City ? State ? )


Early American SIG #USA Fwd: STELLY-HILMAN-EDELMAYER-KLEIN #usa

Heather Straube <straubeh@...>
 

Good day.

I am searching for information on:

Catherine STELLY/STAEHLE of St. Martinville, LA, daughter of Johann
Jean-Georges STEHLE/ECHSTELLY >from Wagen Wutemberg, Germany (1693).
She married Michel CORMIER.

Johann Stehle had married into this family:

Marie Christine HILMAN-EDELMAYER (NEW ORLEANS 1721), daughter of
Johann Hans Jean ADAM EDELMAYER??? (Reihem, Palatinate, Germany-1669)
and possibly Anna HEIME KLEIN (Weilersham, Alsace, France).

Johann Hans Adam EDELMAYER?, son of Abraham LEMAIRE (Mulhouse, Alsace,
FR -1630) and Verrena HIRTZER (Zurich). Abraham came >from Bernard
LEONHARDT (Mulhouse, Alsace-1600) and Ann CUNEGONDE HEILMANN
(Steinsfurt), daughter of Heinrich HIRTZEL (Reihan).

I am trying to find out why they left Europe and if they were Jewish.

Are names like "Adam" or "Cunegonde" or "Heime" their mother's names
or middle names? Not knowing German- I am confused.

Thank you! -- Heather Straube (City ? State ? )


ViewMate - A penny's worth of history #germany

John Paul Lowens <jplowens@...>
 

I sent a scan of a 1945 postcard >from my great aunt to ViewMate ( VM
15445 ) for translation help. The image was posted just yesterday but
*** I already have a translation and transliteration *** and also some
information >from the Internet about the place >from which this card was written.

Thanks to wonderful ViewMate, JewishGen and a generous GerSIG member
*** No translation help is needed ***

However, I'm leaving the image of this card at ViewMate for a few days
more. I think some GerSIG members, especially younger ones, may find
it interesting.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=15445

In 1945 it cost just one cent to send a post card within the (then) 48
United States. In our time of 9 digit zip codes and bar coded mail
routing, the simple "New York City" in the address is another reminder
of simpler days.

The card was written 3 days after the atomic bombing of Hiroshima,
Japan, about ten days before the end of World War 2. It was sent from
the Palace Hotel in New York's Catskill region - an area sometimes
called "the borscht belt". The friend who translated the German
writing to English also sent some information about this and other
resorts in that area. This gave me new insight into the lives of our
Jewish ancestors and relatives.

"Note: I found an interesting article about Fleischmanns, NY:
'At the time, the Palace Hotel was a kochaleine (a Yiddish word for
"cook alone"). The kitchen had a line of stoves and each woman got her
own stove to cook on. The wives and children came up for the whole
summer and the husbands visited on weekends. Each family was assigned
their own table in the dining room.' "
http://www.skenelib.org/dpq/oralhistory_one.php?id=5

Thanks to GerSIG's generous friend Andreas Schwab.

John Paul Lowens (geb. Loewenstein) Suburban New York NY


German SIG #Germany ViewMate - A penny's worth of history #germany

John Paul Lowens <jplowens@...>
 

I sent a scan of a 1945 postcard >from my great aunt to ViewMate ( VM
15445 ) for translation help. The image was posted just yesterday but
*** I already have a translation and transliteration *** and also some
information >from the Internet about the place >from which this card was written.

Thanks to wonderful ViewMate, JewishGen and a generous GerSIG member
*** No translation help is needed ***

However, I'm leaving the image of this card at ViewMate for a few days
more. I think some GerSIG members, especially younger ones, may find
it interesting.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=15445

In 1945 it cost just one cent to send a post card within the (then) 48
United States. In our time of 9 digit zip codes and bar coded mail
routing, the simple "New York City" in the address is another reminder
of simpler days.

The card was written 3 days after the atomic bombing of Hiroshima,
Japan, about ten days before the end of World War 2. It was sent from
the Palace Hotel in New York's Catskill region - an area sometimes
called "the borscht belt". The friend who translated the German
writing to English also sent some information about this and other
resorts in that area. This gave me new insight into the lives of our
Jewish ancestors and relatives.

"Note: I found an interesting article about Fleischmanns, NY:
'At the time, the Palace Hotel was a kochaleine (a Yiddish word for
"cook alone"). The kitchen had a line of stoves and each woman got her
own stove to cook on. The wives and children came up for the whole
summer and the husbands visited on weekends. Each family was assigned
their own table in the dining room.' "
http://www.skenelib.org/dpq/oralhistory_one.php?id=5

Thanks to GerSIG's generous friend Andreas Schwab.

John Paul Lowens (geb. Loewenstein) Suburban New York NY


LEIMDORFER (O Umlaut) from Pest #austria-czech

oliverbryk@...
 

I would like to express my thanks to Mr. Eckstein for supplying the
information about Jakab LEIMDOERFER and his large family!

I wonder when and where Aladar LEIMDOERFER married Ella BRYK, born 1888 in
Vienna; she was the only daughter of my ggf Adolf BRYK.

Oliver Bryk (San Francisco)


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech LEIMDORFER (O Umlaut) from Pest #austria-czech

oliverbryk@...
 

I would like to express my thanks to Mr. Eckstein for supplying the
information about Jakab LEIMDOERFER and his large family!

I wonder when and where Aladar LEIMDOERFER married Ella BRYK, born 1888 in
Vienna; she was the only daughter of my ggf Adolf BRYK.

Oliver Bryk (San Francisco)


cadastral maps for Bohemia and Moravia #austria-czech

tom.heinersdorff@...
 

This excellent and fascinating resource indeed does have the map for
Rousinov okres Rakovnik but appears to be missing those for Rousinov
formerly Neu Raussnitz, Slavkov u Brna formerly Austerlitz or even Brno.

Can anyone tell us whether Moravia has been totally omitted or are these
maps missing or are they just not yet scanned?

Tom Heinersdorff
London, UK

researching
CHAT Neu Rausnitz/Rousinov, Budapest, Graz, Vienna (Czech Republic, Hungary, Austria)
RECHNITZER Kormend, Graz, Idaho, San Francisco (Hungary, Austria, USA)
MENZEL Vienna, London, Melbourne, Diekirch, (Austria, UK, Australia, Luxembourg)
STRASSMANN Bzenec, Graz, Voitsberg (Slovakia, Austria)
NEUMANN Graz, Vienna (Austria)
COHNER Graz, Vienna (Austria)
TOFFLER Vienna, USA (Austria & USA)
TILLER Vienna (Austria)
FOGES Vienna (Austria)
HEINERSDORFF Breslau/Wroclaw (Poland)
PRINZ Breslau/Wroclaw (Poland)
FRIEDLAENDER Berlin (Germany)
SCHULZKE Potsdam (Germany)
FRANZ Berlin (Germany)
BOLTE Laufendreen, Dortmund (Westfalen, Germany)
The family names and towns I am researching are in the JGFF under my ID
number=A0363582


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech cadastral maps for Bohemia and Moravia #austria-czech

tom.heinersdorff@...
 

This excellent and fascinating resource indeed does have the map for
Rousinov okres Rakovnik but appears to be missing those for Rousinov
formerly Neu Raussnitz, Slavkov u Brna formerly Austerlitz or even Brno.

Can anyone tell us whether Moravia has been totally omitted or are these
maps missing or are they just not yet scanned?

Tom Heinersdorff
London, UK

researching
CHAT Neu Rausnitz/Rousinov, Budapest, Graz, Vienna (Czech Republic, Hungary, Austria)
RECHNITZER Kormend, Graz, Idaho, San Francisco (Hungary, Austria, USA)
MENZEL Vienna, London, Melbourne, Diekirch, (Austria, UK, Australia, Luxembourg)
STRASSMANN Bzenec, Graz, Voitsberg (Slovakia, Austria)
NEUMANN Graz, Vienna (Austria)
COHNER Graz, Vienna (Austria)
TOFFLER Vienna, USA (Austria & USA)
TILLER Vienna (Austria)
FOGES Vienna (Austria)
HEINERSDORFF Breslau/Wroclaw (Poland)
PRINZ Breslau/Wroclaw (Poland)
FRIEDLAENDER Berlin (Germany)
SCHULZKE Potsdam (Germany)
FRANZ Berlin (Germany)
BOLTE Laufendreen, Dortmund (Westfalen, Germany)
The family names and towns I am researching are in the JGFF under my ID
number=A0363582


Searching for ex-Czech HELLER brothers #austria-czech

davidlewin@...
 

Do any of you recognize the one-time Czech Heller brothers? They got out of Czechoslovakia before the
start of World war 2. In 1948 Fred HELLER, lived at No. 8 Perceval Avenue, London NW3 AJan HELLER
lived at Surrey Weybridge The Flat 43 M. Hill. Arnold HELLER gave an address c/o Style Novelties in Wales.
In 1947 Style Novelties was listed as an Exhibitor at the British Industries Fair as manufacturers of dress
ornaments and fancy jewellery, Plastics, Glass and Wood. Hollow Glass Beads. (Olympia, Ground Floor,
Stand No. E.1709) All these addresses are now defunct, and the Company no longer exists.
Can you help in any way please?

Thanks.

David Lewin, London


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Searching for ex-Czech HELLER brothers #austria-czech

davidlewin@...
 

Do any of you recognize the one-time Czech Heller brothers? They got out of Czechoslovakia before the
start of World war 2. In 1948 Fred HELLER, lived at No. 8 Perceval Avenue, London NW3 AJan HELLER
lived at Surrey Weybridge The Flat 43 M. Hill. Arnold HELLER gave an address c/o Style Novelties in Wales.
In 1947 Style Novelties was listed as an Exhibitor at the British Industries Fair as manufacturers of dress
ornaments and fancy jewellery, Plastics, Glass and Wood. Hollow Glass Beads. (Olympia, Ground Floor,
Stand No. E.1709) All these addresses are now defunct, and the Company no longer exists.
Can you help in any way please?

Thanks.

David Lewin, London


Translation Request Yiddish to English #belarus

cswimmer@...
 

Hi
I have posted a postcard that I was told was sent form my maternal
great-grandmother to my grandfather >from Jeziory, Poland (Ozery). Not sure
of the year but the envelope is marked as the Soviet Union. I would very
much appreciate if someone could help me by translating to English. The
image can be found at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=15455
Thanks in advance
Candace Swimmer
San Francisco, CA
MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately


Belarus SIG #Belarus Translation Request Yiddish to English #belarus

cswimmer@...
 

Hi
I have posted a postcard that I was told was sent form my maternal
great-grandmother to my grandfather >from Jeziory, Poland (Ozery). Not sure
of the year but the envelope is marked as the Soviet Union. I would very
much appreciate if someone could help me by translating to English. The
image can be found at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=15455
Thanks in advance
Candace Swimmer
San Francisco, CA
MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately


Re: Do you recognize this South African synagogue? #southafrica

Colin Plen
 

Unfortunately I think that all the shuls of that period had standard shaped
doors??!!

Colin Plen


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: Do you recognize this South African synagogue? #southafrica

Colin Plen
 

Unfortunately I think that all the shuls of that period had standard shaped
doors??!!

Colin Plen


LIDMAN or LITMAN Family from Kiev Gubernia #ukraine

Linda Shefler
 

Up until recently I knew that the sister (Toby NULMAN) of my gg grandfather
had married a man named BORNSTEIN or BRAUNSTEIN. But it turns out that the
son of Toby and his family used that name when they immigrated to America at
the turn of the 20th century and their real name was LIDMAN or LITMAN.

I am attempting to properly piece together this disjointed LIDMAN/LITMAN
family that I believe is >from Kiev gubernia. The family might have come
from someplace around Fastov as they married into the NULMAN family from
Fastov. They settled at the turn of the 20th century in Fall River, MA
and Providence, RI.

This is what "I think" I know:
An Unknown LIDMAN married Toby NULMAN (probably around 1870).

They had three children that I am aware of:
Barnet (Benjamin) LIDMAN (born ~1870) who married Hida KOPIT/COPIT and had
daughters Bessie and Sarah (born ~1892).

Rose (Bobsy) LIDMAN (born ~1874) who married Wolf (William) CHARNOW
(probably originally CHARNOFSKY). They had seven children; three born in
Russia and the last four born in Providence.

Ethel LIDMAN (born ~1879) married to Nathan KANOFSKY. They had six
children, initially lived in Providence and eventually settled in Chicago
(about 1914).

There was also a Charles LIDMAN who was probably born about 1880. I do not
know who his parents were, but he settled in Fall River and married Ann
NULMAN about 1902. I believe they and their children died in the 1918 flu
epidemic. I am sure he is related to the other LIDMAN family but don't know
how.

There are several intermarriages between the LIDMAN/LITMAN family and my
NULMAN family. Amazingly, I have been unable to locate any manifests for
any of the three families, but I am particularly anxious to locate the
BORNSTEIN/BRAUNSTEIN manifest for Benjamin, Hida/Isa, Bessie and Sarah.
Supposedly they immigrated 1904. I'm hoping it holds some clues....to
something!

I also cannot locate census records for this family. I found marriage
records for both Bessie and Sarah. One's surname is listed as LIDMAN and
the other as BRAUNSTEIN!!

For those interested in LITMAN >from Kiev gubernia, if these families are
familiar to anyone I would love to hear >from you!

Many thanks for your time.
Linda Silverman Shefler
Hod HaSharon
linda.shefler@...


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine LIDMAN or LITMAN Family from Kiev Gubernia #ukraine

Linda Shefler
 

Up until recently I knew that the sister (Toby NULMAN) of my gg grandfather
had married a man named BORNSTEIN or BRAUNSTEIN. But it turns out that the
son of Toby and his family used that name when they immigrated to America at
the turn of the 20th century and their real name was LIDMAN or LITMAN.

I am attempting to properly piece together this disjointed LIDMAN/LITMAN
family that I believe is >from Kiev gubernia. The family might have come
from someplace around Fastov as they married into the NULMAN family from
Fastov. They settled at the turn of the 20th century in Fall River, MA
and Providence, RI.

This is what "I think" I know:
An Unknown LIDMAN married Toby NULMAN (probably around 1870).

They had three children that I am aware of:
Barnet (Benjamin) LIDMAN (born ~1870) who married Hida KOPIT/COPIT and had
daughters Bessie and Sarah (born ~1892).

Rose (Bobsy) LIDMAN (born ~1874) who married Wolf (William) CHARNOW
(probably originally CHARNOFSKY). They had seven children; three born in
Russia and the last four born in Providence.

Ethel LIDMAN (born ~1879) married to Nathan KANOFSKY. They had six
children, initially lived in Providence and eventually settled in Chicago
(about 1914).

There was also a Charles LIDMAN who was probably born about 1880. I do not
know who his parents were, but he settled in Fall River and married Ann
NULMAN about 1902. I believe they and their children died in the 1918 flu
epidemic. I am sure he is related to the other LIDMAN family but don't know
how.

There are several intermarriages between the LIDMAN/LITMAN family and my
NULMAN family. Amazingly, I have been unable to locate any manifests for
any of the three families, but I am particularly anxious to locate the
BORNSTEIN/BRAUNSTEIN manifest for Benjamin, Hida/Isa, Bessie and Sarah.
Supposedly they immigrated 1904. I'm hoping it holds some clues....to
something!

I also cannot locate census records for this family. I found marriage
records for both Bessie and Sarah. One's surname is listed as LIDMAN and
the other as BRAUNSTEIN!!

For those interested in LITMAN >from Kiev gubernia, if these families are
familiar to anyone I would love to hear >from you!

Many thanks for your time.
Linda Silverman Shefler
Hod HaSharon
linda.shefler@...