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Re: Levitas/Levy #southafrica

Michael Eliastam <eliastamm@...>
 

There were Levitas brothers in Springs >from the 1940's, (Bob was in=20
insurance, Arnold was other brother) Bob's sons now live in JHB.

Be well
Michael Eliastam
Lancaster MA

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Levitas/Levy
From: Michelle Essers <essersfam@...>
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 12:00:41 +0300

Hi

I am helping an older friend with her research.

Her information is still rather scanty.

Her mother, Temi Levy was >from Bangor, north Wales.

Temi's father apparently changed his name >from Levitas to Levy.
Several of his brothers emigrated to SA, one started a farm (area=20
unknown)

Esther (born in 1924) remembers 2 of her mother's SA cousins come to
visit the UK during their school holidays.

Carol Levy, originally >from Jhb, married a Rhodesian. He was 'the
leading light' of Colgate Palmolive in Rhodesia. Years later they
moved to Sea Point where Carol was a renown Speech therapist/teacher.
Esther last saw Carol in Sea point about 10 or 15 years ago.

Carol's sister Elsie Levy,married a cousin.

So far this is all my 86 year old friend can remember....

Michelle


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: Levitas/Levy #southafrica

Michael Eliastam <eliastamm@...>
 

There were Levitas brothers in Springs >from the 1940's, (Bob was in=20
insurance, Arnold was other brother) Bob's sons now live in JHB.

Be well
Michael Eliastam
Lancaster MA

-----Original Message-----
Subject: Levitas/Levy
From: Michelle Essers <essersfam@...>
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 12:00:41 +0300

Hi

I am helping an older friend with her research.

Her information is still rather scanty.

Her mother, Temi Levy was >from Bangor, north Wales.

Temi's father apparently changed his name >from Levitas to Levy.
Several of his brothers emigrated to SA, one started a farm (area=20
unknown)

Esther (born in 1924) remembers 2 of her mother's SA cousins come to
visit the UK during their school holidays.

Carol Levy, originally >from Jhb, married a Rhodesian. He was 'the
leading light' of Colgate Palmolive in Rhodesia. Years later they
moved to Sea Point where Carol was a renown Speech therapist/teacher.
Esther last saw Carol in Sea point about 10 or 15 years ago.

Carol's sister Elsie Levy,married a cousin.

So far this is all my 86 year old friend can remember....

Michelle


Jewish conscription in 1800s #general

ben.forman@...
 

Hi Genners

One of my ancestors appears on a Telsai-Skuodas Military List for 1871 he is aged
47 (34 on previous revision) he is the head of a household.

Does his appearence on this list indicate that he was still in the army, or
that he was some kind of reserve. If he was conscripted at 12 that would have
been around 1835 and left after 25 years he would have left in 1860 aged 37.

Would his army record be available anywhere?

I think he was >from Skuodas originally as his father is on the 1816 RL, would
he have been taken away >from there to be in the army and likely married and had
his children elsewhere also whilst in the army? His children were born in the
mid between around 18503 and 1860.

Thanks as always

Ben
Ben Forman
Manchester UK

searching: BENSON: Courland; BERNSTEIN/WEINER: Ylakai, CAHN/WOLF: Koeln;
FURMAN: Kaluszyn; GEVER: Daugavpils/Dvinsk; SAWADY: Zavadi,Posen;


Were any of these grooms associated with the J. Arthur Rank Organization in the UK? #general

Howard Orenstein
 

Dear Genners,
I realize that this is an unusual request, but all attempts to find the name of a
BLOOM relative have failed. Below is a link for a WORD document
of marriages compiled >from United Synagogue records in the UK. The bride's
surname is BLOOM or something sounding like it. The bride for whom I search
married someone allegedly associated with the J. Arthur Rank Organization in
the UK. Does anyone recognize the name of a groom who was affiliated with
J. Arthur Rank? If so, please let me know.

http://www2.mcdaniel.edu/Psychology/HBO/BLOOMmarriages.doc

The "unknown" BLOOM woman had a brother, Joseph Leib, who lived in London >from
approximately 1871 through 1883-1885). She also had a sister, Necha, who was
born, married (Moshe Nuchim ROZENBERG, in 1880), and died in Wyszków, Poland.

Howard Orenstein
horenstein@...

--
Howard Orenstein, Ph.D.
Westminster,MD
horenstein@...
Explore Your Jewish Heritage in Wyszków,Poland:
http://www2.mcdaniel.edu/Psychology/HBO/JHWyszkow3.html
Jewish Heritage in Serock,Poland:
http://www2.mcdaniel.edu/Psychology/HBO/JHSerock3/Welcome.html
Searching for:
ORENSTEIN -- Serock, Wyszkow, Pultusk, Plonsk, Poland
HOLLAND (GOLAND), PIENIEK, OSTROWIAK -- Serock, Wyszkow, Poland
BLUM (BLOOM) -- Wyszkow, Poland; London, England


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish conscription in 1800s #general

ben.forman@...
 

Hi Genners

One of my ancestors appears on a Telsai-Skuodas Military List for 1871 he is aged
47 (34 on previous revision) he is the head of a household.

Does his appearence on this list indicate that he was still in the army, or
that he was some kind of reserve. If he was conscripted at 12 that would have
been around 1835 and left after 25 years he would have left in 1860 aged 37.

Would his army record be available anywhere?

I think he was >from Skuodas originally as his father is on the 1816 RL, would
he have been taken away >from there to be in the army and likely married and had
his children elsewhere also whilst in the army? His children were born in the
mid between around 18503 and 1860.

Thanks as always

Ben
Ben Forman
Manchester UK

searching: BENSON: Courland; BERNSTEIN/WEINER: Ylakai, CAHN/WOLF: Koeln;
FURMAN: Kaluszyn; GEVER: Daugavpils/Dvinsk; SAWADY: Zavadi,Posen;


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Were any of these grooms associated with the J. Arthur Rank Organization in the UK? #general

Howard Orenstein
 

Dear Genners,
I realize that this is an unusual request, but all attempts to find the name of a
BLOOM relative have failed. Below is a link for a WORD document
of marriages compiled >from United Synagogue records in the UK. The bride's
surname is BLOOM or something sounding like it. The bride for whom I search
married someone allegedly associated with the J. Arthur Rank Organization in
the UK. Does anyone recognize the name of a groom who was affiliated with
J. Arthur Rank? If so, please let me know.

http://www2.mcdaniel.edu/Psychology/HBO/BLOOMmarriages.doc

The "unknown" BLOOM woman had a brother, Joseph Leib, who lived in London >from
approximately 1871 through 1883-1885). She also had a sister, Necha, who was
born, married (Moshe Nuchim ROZENBERG, in 1880), and died in Wyszków, Poland.

Howard Orenstein
horenstein@...

--
Howard Orenstein, Ph.D.
Westminster,MD
horenstein@...
Explore Your Jewish Heritage in Wyszków,Poland:
http://www2.mcdaniel.edu/Psychology/HBO/JHWyszkow3.html
Jewish Heritage in Serock,Poland:
http://www2.mcdaniel.edu/Psychology/HBO/JHSerock3/Welcome.html
Searching for:
ORENSTEIN -- Serock, Wyszkow, Pultusk, Plonsk, Poland
HOLLAND (GOLAND), PIENIEK, OSTROWIAK -- Serock, Wyszkow, Poland
BLUM (BLOOM) -- Wyszkow, Poland; London, England


Re: 2 part question concerning Americanization of names, and the on-line indexes #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

lilishoshana@... (Shoshana Kahan) writes:
Does anyone have experience with the use of the names "Gladys" and
"Harriet" as anything other than Americanizations of "Gittel" and
"Chana" (as they are according to the GNDB?) I think I identified my
grandfather's cousin Isaac Cooper of the 1910 census as an Isadore
Cooper on the 1930 census. All details match, except that his two
oldest daughters are named Gladys and Harriet, while his own mother,
who probably died before either daughter was born, was called "Mamie."
I suspect there was another child there who died, and whose name I
don't know. But I would expect to find a daughter named something
like Mamie or Marsha or Mary or something, and the fact that I don't
makes me wonder if this is the same fellow. Did the name Harriet ever
stand in for Esther (his grandmother's name?) Should I take the fact
that these girls don't seem to be named after his mother as a sign
that this Isadore isn't the Isaac of the earlier census ...
Maybe the mother was still alive, or maybe her name was already taken by
someone else in the family, or maybe he simply didn't want to name a
child after his mother. Naming customs vary, and not everybody
followed them. And many people have "Jewish" names that do not correspond
in any way to their secular names, so Harriet = Esther is perfectly possible.
--
Robert Israel
israel@...
University of British Columbia
Vancouver, BC, Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 2 part question concerning Americanization of names, and the on-line indexes #general

Robert Israel <israel@...>
 

lilishoshana@... (Shoshana Kahan) writes:
Does anyone have experience with the use of the names "Gladys" and
"Harriet" as anything other than Americanizations of "Gittel" and
"Chana" (as they are according to the GNDB?) I think I identified my
grandfather's cousin Isaac Cooper of the 1910 census as an Isadore
Cooper on the 1930 census. All details match, except that his two
oldest daughters are named Gladys and Harriet, while his own mother,
who probably died before either daughter was born, was called "Mamie."
I suspect there was another child there who died, and whose name I
don't know. But I would expect to find a daughter named something
like Mamie or Marsha or Mary or something, and the fact that I don't
makes me wonder if this is the same fellow. Did the name Harriet ever
stand in for Esther (his grandmother's name?) Should I take the fact
that these girls don't seem to be named after his mother as a sign
that this Isadore isn't the Isaac of the earlier census ...
Maybe the mother was still alive, or maybe her name was already taken by
someone else in the family, or maybe he simply didn't want to name a
child after his mother. Naming customs vary, and not everybody
followed them. And many people have "Jewish" names that do not correspond
in any way to their secular names, so Harriet = Esther is perfectly possible.
--
Robert Israel
israel@...
University of British Columbia
Vancouver, BC, Canada


Re: Databases dealing with Eretz Israel - A correction #galicia

Billie Stein <billie.stein@...>
 

In my request for suggestions of new projects for the Israel
Genealogical Society to undertake in anticipation of the 34th
IAJGS Conference to be held in Jerusalem in 2014, I gave an
incorrect e-mail address. The correction is below.

If you are aware of any documents dealing with Eretz Israel that
fit into the time period >from the beginning of the 19th century
through 1930, please contact Rose Feldman at
webmaster@...

Billie Stein
Preseident, Tel Aviv Branch
Israel Genealogical Society


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Databases dealing with Eretz Israel - A correction #galicia

Billie Stein <billie.stein@...>
 

In my request for suggestions of new projects for the Israel
Genealogical Society to undertake in anticipation of the 34th
IAJGS Conference to be held in Jerusalem in 2014, I gave an
incorrect e-mail address. The correction is below.

If you are aware of any documents dealing with Eretz Israel that
fit into the time period >from the beginning of the 19th century
through 1930, please contact Rose Feldman at
webmaster@...

Billie Stein
Preseident, Tel Aviv Branch
Israel Genealogical Society


confusing records #lithuania

Ben Forman <ben.forman@...>
 

I have found seemingly conradictory records to my family in two
Lithuanian Taxpayer records recorded 1 month apart.

In May 1881 Itsik Bernshteyn son of Zelman living in Ylakiai is
described as living in a household with "3 males, poor, owns property"

In June 1881 Itsik Berenshteyn son of Zalman livin in Skuodas is
described as living in a houehold with "3 males; well-to-do; has a
house"

I'm sure these are the same people, could they have been setting up
business in Ylakiai at that time and therefore have been classed as
poor? They must have had the capital to buy a house in Ylakiai so
perhaps the money came >from elsewhere.

any ideas?

Thanks as always

Ben Forman
Manchester UK

searching: BENSON: Courland; BERNSTEIN/WEINER: Ylakai, CAHN/WOLF: Koeln;
FURMAN: Kaluszyn; GEVER: Daugavpils/Dvinsk; SAWADY: Zavadi,Posen;
STILLMAN: Pilica/Czestechowa; Zeyder/Seider: Kursan, Lithuania


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania confusing records #lithuania

Ben Forman <ben.forman@...>
 

I have found seemingly conradictory records to my family in two
Lithuanian Taxpayer records recorded 1 month apart.

In May 1881 Itsik Bernshteyn son of Zelman living in Ylakiai is
described as living in a household with "3 males, poor, owns property"

In June 1881 Itsik Berenshteyn son of Zalman livin in Skuodas is
described as living in a houehold with "3 males; well-to-do; has a
house"

I'm sure these are the same people, could they have been setting up
business in Ylakiai at that time and therefore have been classed as
poor? They must have had the capital to buy a house in Ylakiai so
perhaps the money came >from elsewhere.

any ideas?

Thanks as always

Ben Forman
Manchester UK

searching: BENSON: Courland; BERNSTEIN/WEINER: Ylakai, CAHN/WOLF: Koeln;
FURMAN: Kaluszyn; GEVER: Daugavpils/Dvinsk; SAWADY: Zavadi,Posen;
STILLMAN: Pilica/Czestechowa; Zeyder/Seider: Kursan, Lithuania


Telsai 1871 Military list #lithuania

Ben Forman <ben.forman@...>
 

One of my ancestors appears on a military list >from 1871 for Telsai,
would more information be available about this ancestor if I were to
write to an archive?

Thanks as always

Ben Forman
Manchester UK

searching: BENSON: Courland; BERNSTEIN/WEINER: Ylakai, CAHN/WOLF: Koeln;
FURMAN: Kaluszyn; GEVER: Daugavpils/Dvinsk; SAWADY: Zavadi,Posen;
STILLMAN: Pilica/Czestechowa; Zeyder/Seider: Kursan, Lithuania


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Telsai 1871 Military list #lithuania

Ben Forman <ben.forman@...>
 

One of my ancestors appears on a military list >from 1871 for Telsai,
would more information be available about this ancestor if I were to
write to an archive?

Thanks as always

Ben Forman
Manchester UK

searching: BENSON: Courland; BERNSTEIN/WEINER: Ylakai, CAHN/WOLF: Koeln;
FURMAN: Kaluszyn; GEVER: Daugavpils/Dvinsk; SAWADY: Zavadi,Posen;
STILLMAN: Pilica/Czestechowa; Zeyder/Seider: Kursan, Lithuania


Seeking Beth David gravesite photos #poland

osborn@...
 

Dear fellow enthusiasts,

May I impose again on your generosity?

If anyone has plans for visiting Beth David cemetery
in Elmont, NY and would be willing to shoot photos, can
you please contact me at osborn@...?

I would love photos of the two headstones of my
great grandparents Philip and Sarah SILBER/SILVER, both
of whom passed away in 1936. Philip came >from Sokolow
Malpolski, and Sarah >from Ulanow, Poland.

As always, I am grateful!

Kind regards,
Marla Raucher Osborn
Palo Alto, CA

Please reply to osborn@...

Researching surnames HORN, FRUCHTER, LIEBLING >from Rohatyn (formerly,
Galicia); SILBER >from Ulanow and Sokolow Malapolski (Poland); BLECHER
from Soroka, Bessarabia (Moldova), BRUNSHTEIN, SARFAS/CHARFAS, and
FABER >from Mohyliv Podilskyy and Kamyanets Podilskyy (today, Ukraine);
and RAUCHER/RAUSCHER >from Przemysl (Poland)


JRI Poland #Poland Seeking Beth David gravesite photos #poland

osborn@...
 

Dear fellow enthusiasts,

May I impose again on your generosity?

If anyone has plans for visiting Beth David cemetery
in Elmont, NY and would be willing to shoot photos, can
you please contact me at osborn@...?

I would love photos of the two headstones of my
great grandparents Philip and Sarah SILBER/SILVER, both
of whom passed away in 1936. Philip came >from Sokolow
Malpolski, and Sarah >from Ulanow, Poland.

As always, I am grateful!

Kind regards,
Marla Raucher Osborn
Palo Alto, CA

Please reply to osborn@...

Researching surnames HORN, FRUCHTER, LIEBLING >from Rohatyn (formerly,
Galicia); SILBER >from Ulanow and Sokolow Malapolski (Poland); BLECHER
from Soroka, Bessarabia (Moldova), BRUNSHTEIN, SARFAS/CHARFAS, and
FABER >from Mohyliv Podilskyy and Kamyanets Podilskyy (today, Ukraine);
and RAUCHER/RAUSCHER >from Przemysl (Poland)


Hebrew Translation #poland

Sam <sam.macilroy@...>
 

Hello,

I'm looking for anyone who could help me translate some tombstones from
Hebrew. They are on viewmate # 15233 and 15234. I was looking for an Adler
who was the younger brother of my great-grandfather. He was born near
Nurzec, Poland and emigrated >from Grodno in 1913. He died as a child after
getting settled in the the US.

I have been told that the names on these stones are both female. He also
had a younger sister who was known as Fannie who passed away as a child I'm
not sure where she was born but I was told she was likely buried in a mass
grave after the custom of that time. These are the only two childrens'
stones in the cemetery. If someone could translate them, I would appreciate
it. If someone could also offer some insight on the practice of burying
infant female children in unmarked graves, I would appreciate that as well.
Was that a local thing or something that came >from the old country?

If these stones aren't for my family, I'll be sure to pass any translations
on to the caretaker of the Beth Abraham Cemetery in Bangor, ME so he can
update his records for other family members.

The direct links to these images can be found at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=15233

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=15234

Thank you,
Sam MacIlroy

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


JRI Poland #Poland Hebrew Translation #poland

Sam <sam.macilroy@...>
 

Hello,

I'm looking for anyone who could help me translate some tombstones from
Hebrew. They are on viewmate # 15233 and 15234. I was looking for an Adler
who was the younger brother of my great-grandfather. He was born near
Nurzec, Poland and emigrated >from Grodno in 1913. He died as a child after
getting settled in the the US.

I have been told that the names on these stones are both female. He also
had a younger sister who was known as Fannie who passed away as a child I'm
not sure where she was born but I was told she was likely buried in a mass
grave after the custom of that time. These are the only two childrens'
stones in the cemetery. If someone could translate them, I would appreciate
it. If someone could also offer some insight on the practice of burying
infant female children in unmarked graves, I would appreciate that as well.
Was that a local thing or something that came >from the old country?

If these stones aren't for my family, I'll be sure to pass any translations
on to the caretaker of the Beth Abraham Cemetery in Bangor, ME so he can
update his records for other family members.

The direct links to these images can be found at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=15233

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=15234

Thank you,
Sam MacIlroy

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Re: NYC Archives Lookup Request #general

A. E. Jordan
 

In a message dated 4/29/2010 GerSIG.Research@... writes:
The Family History Library in Salt Lake City has copies of the
microfilms that a vital-records searcher would be consulting in NYC.

Although I have not tried it personally I am also told with the certificate
numbers you can order the certificate via any Family History Library and
they will mail you the certificate for just a few dollars versus the mail
order fees >from the Municipal Archives.

Of course sometimes you rather have some look at the certificate first ..
but when ordering keep in mind the option of using the Family History
Library.

Allan Jordan


Boris Bobroff success story, & seeking further info #general

Anne Bobroff-Hajal
 

I've found some amazing information about my Russian Jewish
grandfather, Boris L. Bobroff (in the US, Bornett L. Bobroff). I will
describe it beginning in the paragraph-after-next.

Beyond what I've found, I would also love to learn about my
grandfather's life in Minsk or in Ryazan, Russia, where he worked
prior to 1905 (he left Russia to avoid the draft). If anyone has
information about Jews in Ryazan or Jewish engineers in Minsk, I would
very much appreciate hearing it.

Now for my success story. The two keys to my finding information
about my grandfather were:
1. a seemingly small tip >from a JewishGen responder
2. the fact that googlebooks has scanned a lot of out-of-print books
and made them available online.

To go back to the beginning: I had endlessly googled everything I
could think of relating to my grandfather, who lived in Wisconsin from
his early 20s until he died. He died before I was born, and I knew
almost nothing about him except that he was an inventor with a small
factory in Racine, WI. The factory was called Teleoptics.

Then, several years ago, I put up a query on Jewish Gen to learn
anything possible about Boris (Bornett) Bobroff. A long while later,
I got an email through Jewish Gen >from some one who told me the only
thing they knew about the Bobroffs is that they "were an engineering
family" in Russia. Bingo! This small tip opened up a huge door to a
man I had never met.

When I googled "Bobroff" together with "engineering," I suddenly found
the most extraordinary documents. It turned out that my grandfather
was deeply involved with the (illegal in the US) effort to try to
establish trade between the US and the Bolshevik government around
1920. He did this via another company I'd never heard of, his Bobroff
Foreign Trading and Engineering Company in Milwaukee. I discovered
that my grandfather was picked up by the US Bureau of Investigation on
his return >from Russia in 1920, along with various items on his
person:

" machinery catalogues,
specifications, correspondence regarding the shipment of various
equipment, etc., to Russian ports. Mr. Bobroff was closely questioned
by Agent Davis and the customs authorities, and a detailed report of
same will be sent to Washington."

The Bureau of Investigation assumed that my grandfather wrote the
letter they confiscated >from him, though after further research, I
think it's possible he was delivering it >from some one else. The letter
appears in full online. It was addressed to Kenneth Durant at the Soviet
Bureau in Philadelphia. It's very long and difficult to read, but
it's a fascinating look into the efforts to achieve trade between the
US and Russia following the revolution. (I have since found some
further information about this in scholarly books and articles,
including my grandfather's involvement).

More recently, following this same line of googling, to my utter
amazement, I found that googlebooks had scanned the record of the 1921
US House Committee on Foreign Affairs investigation of "Conditions in
Russia" following the Revolution. Included in the book were 25 pages
of testimony by my grandfather! I was able to download the entire
"Conditions in Russia" into my own computer, including the 25 pages of
my grandfather's "voice."

During the Congressional hearings, my grandfather was questioned in
detail about his trip to Russia, and his intentions in making the
then-illegal trip. My grandfather had secured $6,000,000 in contracts
to supply the Russians with boots and machinery. For his part, he was
appealing to the US government to end their freeze on allowing the Bolsheviks
to pay for such trade goods using "tsarist" gold.

It's hard to figure out, based on the testimony alone, whether my
grandfather was motivated solely as a businessman trying to make
money, or whether he was also dedicated to helping the Bolsheviks (and
via the Soviet Bureau in the Philadelphia) to achieve diplomatic
recognition by the US government.

There were one or two very wispy stories in my family about my
grandfather's involvement in trade with Russia after the revolution.
But what I found thanks to that little tip >from a Jewish Gen-er gave
me far, far more than any of my living family members had known. To
me, this is a huge success story.

I'm continuing to look for more information about this episode in my
grandfather's life, and about his life in Russia as well, before he
emigrated in 1905 at the age of 22.

Thank you,
Anne Bobroff-Hajal
White Plains NY 10605