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Chaje FINK, d. NYC, 1894 #general

Lisa Grayson <lisa@...>
 

I have a copy of a New York death certificate for Chaje FINK, b. Russia
about 1827-28, died Feb. 3, 1894, in New York City. Her last address was
337 Cherry Street. I would be glad to e-mail a scan the certificate to
any Genner who is searching for records for this person; this will save
you the $18.50 fee for ordering it >from the NY archives. (I ordered the
certificate for the wrong Fink.) Please reply privately.

Lisa Grayson
lisa@publica.com
Chicago, Illinois USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Chaje FINK, d. NYC, 1894 #general

Lisa Grayson <lisa@...>
 

I have a copy of a New York death certificate for Chaje FINK, b. Russia
about 1827-28, died Feb. 3, 1894, in New York City. Her last address was
337 Cherry Street. I would be glad to e-mail a scan the certificate to
any Genner who is searching for records for this person; this will save
you the $18.50 fee for ordering it >from the NY archives. (I ordered the
certificate for the wrong Fink.) Please reply privately.

Lisa Grayson
lisa@publica.com
Chicago, Illinois USA


Town Name like Sacsisne? #general

Stephen Denker
 

On July 20, 1913, my grandfather's brother Zadok EBER came to my gf in
Connecticut. The ship "Kursk" manifest states in one box that his residence
was "Sacsisne (Minsk Gub)." But in another box it is spelled "Zacsisnoje"
I've tried but failed to come up with anything like this town name. I
assume it is somewhere near Borisov (Barysau) where my gf Yitzchak EBER was
born. Any ideas of what the correct place name and where this town could be?
I've tried JewishGen shtetl finder with variants but had no success. Thanks
for any suggestions.

Elayne Denker
Brookline, Massachusetts

Researching
SOCHRIN in Smolyany, Belarus
EBER in Borisov, Belarus
ARONIN and SHEITELMAN in Minsk area


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Town Name like Sacsisne? #general

Stephen Denker
 

On July 20, 1913, my grandfather's brother Zadok EBER came to my gf in
Connecticut. The ship "Kursk" manifest states in one box that his residence
was "Sacsisne (Minsk Gub)." But in another box it is spelled "Zacsisnoje"
I've tried but failed to come up with anything like this town name. I
assume it is somewhere near Borisov (Barysau) where my gf Yitzchak EBER was
born. Any ideas of what the correct place name and where this town could be?
I've tried JewishGen shtetl finder with variants but had no success. Thanks
for any suggestions.

Elayne Denker
Brookline, Massachusetts

Researching
SOCHRIN in Smolyany, Belarus
EBER in Borisov, Belarus
ARONIN and SHEITELMAN in Minsk area


R' Nahman of Kosov's genealogy #general

stevek863@...
 

I am researching the family and genealogy of R' Nahman of Kosov, a
disciple of the Baal Shem Tov. Does anyone have any information to
share?

Thank you,

Steve Kleinman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen R' Nahman of Kosov's genealogy #general

stevek863@...
 

I am researching the family and genealogy of R' Nahman of Kosov, a
disciple of the Baal Shem Tov. Does anyone have any information to
share?

Thank you,

Steve Kleinman


Re: concentration camp victims #general

Joseph Fibel <jfibel@...>
 

Additional places to search for victims of the Holocaust are, of course,
at Yad Vashem,which has pages of Testimony which are on line, Yizkor
Books, which have Necrologies, for your community, The Russian
Extraordinary Commision Lists available at Yad Vashem and/or the U S
Holocaust Memorial Museum, in Washington, D C. The various extermination
camps themselves have some information,, The German Gedenkbuch, and the
Klarsfeld Book have information on the transports.

If your relatives were murdered immediately on arrival at the camp, there
probably was no record made for them on arrival but you may be able to
find a record of the transport on which they were sent to the camp. If
you have a transport record and no death record they probably were
murdered immediately on arrival.

Its a sad topic for which I am sorry.

Joe Fibel
New Rochelle, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: concentration camp victims #general

Joseph Fibel <jfibel@...>
 

Additional places to search for victims of the Holocaust are, of course,
at Yad Vashem,which has pages of Testimony which are on line, Yizkor
Books, which have Necrologies, for your community, The Russian
Extraordinary Commision Lists available at Yad Vashem and/or the U S
Holocaust Memorial Museum, in Washington, D C. The various extermination
camps themselves have some information,, The German Gedenkbuch, and the
Klarsfeld Book have information on the transports.

If your relatives were murdered immediately on arrival at the camp, there
probably was no record made for them on arrival but you may be able to
find a record of the transport on which they were sent to the camp. If
you have a transport record and no death record they probably were
murdered immediately on arrival.

Its a sad topic for which I am sorry.

Joe Fibel
New Rochelle, NY


VIEW MATE - 1941 letter from Berlin translation #germany

lgilman@...
 

I have posted a three-page letter on Viewmate written >from Berlin
in 1941 by a great-aunt. She later perished in the Shoah.
I am hoping that it can be translated. Viewmate identifications are
Number 16035, 16034, 16033.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=16035
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=16034
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=16033

Seeking information on family names LAUMANN, SEELIG, MOSES; family is
from Berlin at this point; earlier had lived in Heilsberg (Lidzbark Warminski).
This letter, one of several, turned up in a suitcase that had been in
a closet for 40 years. Also looking for someone willing to translate other
letters that I have scanned that are >from this time frame.

Please respond privately. Appreciate any help.

Lois Gilman New York, NY lgilman@nyc.rr.com


German SIG #Germany VIEW MATE - 1941 letter from Berlin translation #germany

lgilman@...
 

I have posted a three-page letter on Viewmate written >from Berlin
in 1941 by a great-aunt. She later perished in the Shoah.
I am hoping that it can be translated. Viewmate identifications are
Number 16035, 16034, 16033.

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=16035
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=16034
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=16033

Seeking information on family names LAUMANN, SEELIG, MOSES; family is
from Berlin at this point; earlier had lived in Heilsberg (Lidzbark Warminski).
This letter, one of several, turned up in a suitcase that had been in
a closet for 40 years. Also looking for someone willing to translate other
letters that I have scanned that are >from this time frame.

Please respond privately. Appreciate any help.

Lois Gilman New York, NY lgilman@nyc.rr.com


Samuel HILDESHEIM [GOLDSCHMIDT] Hamburg, Hildesheim #germany

Irene Newhouse
 

One of the sons of Josef HAMELN [GOLDSCHMIDT] was Rabbi Samuel HILDESHEIM
[d. 1682, Hildesheim]. Several children are known for him.

However, buried at the Koenigstrasse Cemetery in Hamburg is Hadassa
[died 1656]. Her gravestone says she's the "daughter of our teacher,
the master Samuel HILDESHEIM. [That's my translation of the German
translation. The Hebrew text & German can be seen at:
http://steinheim-institut.de:50580/cgi-bin/epidat?function=Ins&sel=hha&inv=2499]

Does anyone know if that Hadassa's father is the same as the son of
Josef HAMELN? Thanks!

Irene Newhouse Kihei HI USA einew137@yahoo.com


German SIG #Germany Samuel HILDESHEIM [GOLDSCHMIDT] Hamburg, Hildesheim #germany

Irene Newhouse
 

One of the sons of Josef HAMELN [GOLDSCHMIDT] was Rabbi Samuel HILDESHEIM
[d. 1682, Hildesheim]. Several children are known for him.

However, buried at the Koenigstrasse Cemetery in Hamburg is Hadassa
[died 1656]. Her gravestone says she's the "daughter of our teacher,
the master Samuel HILDESHEIM. [That's my translation of the German
translation. The Hebrew text & German can be seen at:
http://steinheim-institut.de:50580/cgi-bin/epidat?function=Ins&sel=hha&inv=2499]

Does anyone know if that Hadassa's father is the same as the son of
Josef HAMELN? Thanks!

Irene Newhouse Kihei HI USA einew137@yahoo.com


Linden Hill Cemetery #general

Stephenson <graysgrandma@...>
 

On July 16, 2010 I sent out a message regarding my ggparents who were buried
at Linden Hill Cemetery. I was concerned as to why I could not find their
graves.

Much thanks to Ira, Nancy, Renee, Lisa, Harvey, Eliana and Eden for their
responses and great suggestions.

I did call the cemetery today and the attendent was able to give me more
information on the location of the graves. She said that due to low
attendance at the cemetery they do not have someone on the grounds to help.
If you are planning on visiting the cemetery and don't already know where
the grave is, be sure to give her a call (Mon - Fri, 8:30 - 4:00;
212-477-2800.) She will be able to walk you through, over the phone, to
where the grave is.

I don't know when my next trip to New York will be. Hopefully, I will be
successful next time.

I am grateful to this group for all the help that I have been given.
Regards,

Barbara STEPHENSON
Ocala, FL USA

Rsearching: Caro, Ziporkis, Himelfarb, Alteresko


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Linden Hill Cemetery #general

Stephenson <graysgrandma@...>
 

On July 16, 2010 I sent out a message regarding my ggparents who were buried
at Linden Hill Cemetery. I was concerned as to why I could not find their
graves.

Much thanks to Ira, Nancy, Renee, Lisa, Harvey, Eliana and Eden for their
responses and great suggestions.

I did call the cemetery today and the attendent was able to give me more
information on the location of the graves. She said that due to low
attendance at the cemetery they do not have someone on the grounds to help.
If you are planning on visiting the cemetery and don't already know where
the grave is, be sure to give her a call (Mon - Fri, 8:30 - 4:00;
212-477-2800.) She will be able to walk you through, over the phone, to
where the grave is.

I don't know when my next trip to New York will be. Hopefully, I will be
successful next time.

I am grateful to this group for all the help that I have been given.
Regards,

Barbara STEPHENSON
Ocala, FL USA

Rsearching: Caro, Ziporkis, Himelfarb, Alteresko


BERNER's and CHERRY's in Detroit and New York City from the Ukraine (Chernigov and Kiev) #general

D. Franco
 

Dear friends of Jewish Genealogy

My fathers family came >from north central Ukraine to St. Louis in 1891.
They were my grandfather John BERNER (b1883), and his brothers Jacob
Berner (b1879) and Michael Berner (b18754). My grandfather was Jeweler
in St. and rumor has it that his father, was a Jeweler in the Ukraine.
I can find no record of the Berner's in Russia and I hope to find
relatives in Detroit and New York City. I found Michael Berner in Houston
TX (1910 US Census) and Detroit MI (1920 US Census).

My father's mother's maiden name is CHERRY (Anna Marcia Cherry b1859) and
she and her brothers, Samuel Cherry (b1862) and Morris SILVERMAN (Cherry)
(b1870) spent their lives in Saint Louis, MO. Their death certificates
list the birth place as Chernigov and Kiev Ukraine. Their father is listed
as Jacob Kopel Cherry.

Does anyone know any BERNER's or CHERRY's in Detroit or New York City
who's family came >from the Ukraine (Chernigov & Kiev) and may be related
to my family?

Thank you for any help

Dennis Berner-Franco
Saint Louis, MO
USA

Researching Berner, Cherry, Blumberg, Silverman, Mason and Harrier.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BERNER's and CHERRY's in Detroit and New York City from the Ukraine (Chernigov and Kiev) #general

D. Franco
 

Dear friends of Jewish Genealogy

My fathers family came >from north central Ukraine to St. Louis in 1891.
They were my grandfather John BERNER (b1883), and his brothers Jacob
Berner (b1879) and Michael Berner (b18754). My grandfather was Jeweler
in St. and rumor has it that his father, was a Jeweler in the Ukraine.
I can find no record of the Berner's in Russia and I hope to find
relatives in Detroit and New York City. I found Michael Berner in Houston
TX (1910 US Census) and Detroit MI (1920 US Census).

My father's mother's maiden name is CHERRY (Anna Marcia Cherry b1859) and
she and her brothers, Samuel Cherry (b1862) and Morris SILVERMAN (Cherry)
(b1870) spent their lives in Saint Louis, MO. Their death certificates
list the birth place as Chernigov and Kiev Ukraine. Their father is listed
as Jacob Kopel Cherry.

Does anyone know any BERNER's or CHERRY's in Detroit or New York City
who's family came >from the Ukraine (Chernigov & Kiev) and may be related
to my family?

Thank you for any help

Dennis Berner-Franco
Saint Louis, MO
USA

Researching Berner, Cherry, Blumberg, Silverman, Mason and Harrier.


Jewish ancestors from Shargorod, Vinnitsa, Ukraine (1880-1930) #general

DrYattz <winwinsit@...>
 

What a vibrant and involved genealogy group! I've researched my own
genealogy for decades, and find my WASP kin far less helpful.

I'm helping my wife's Philly family in researching their Ukraine
origins. Her grandfather appeared in the Bristol PA census in 1930
with the name George CORN, with his wife Rose MALCHUK Corn and 5 kids,
but nowhere can I find immigration or naturalization documents. My
wife and her sisters want to know what George's surname was before he
entered the US. They doubt Corn or Cornman was the original surname;
the Ukrainian version would not have sounded like the English term for
the vegetable. His grave reads "Gidalya ben Yiheskal" which I
understand means he was called Gidalya. George's son, an uncle and
two nephews were called Oscar, which must be an Americanization of
Yiheskal, after whom they were named. I intend to follow the leads of
many soc.genealogy.jewish groupmembers who have suggested means of
obtaining naturalization intent records >from New York county.

I have what is his supposed birthday - Jan. 1, 1888 - although he may
have been impatient in converting >from the Hebrew to the Roman
calendar, and is thought to have roughly approximated the date.
George is said to have immigrated around 1921, through Philly; his
four older siblings immigrated between 1904 and 1906, and a younger
brother entered the US in 1914. All his siblings' immigration
documents list a last name of Corn, one saying "Cornman." George's
two eldest children were born in Shargorod, but I find no immigration
documents for them; the three youngest were born in Philly. Rose
Corn's Petition for Naturalization dated Oct. 1928 states that she was
born in Lechinsk, Russia (which may have been Luchynets), and that she
entered the US in May 1921. It reads "omitted pursuant to act of
9-22-22" where she is asked to complete the statement "I declared my
intention to become a citizen of the United States on . . ." It says
husband George was nationalized 9-30-1926. The 1930 census has
George, Rose, and the two eldest having immigrated in 1921. On 31 May
1923, a George Corn purchased a prepaid steamship immigrant passage
for Sossie and Yankel CHAIRIMAN, involving Lipshutz/Peoples Bank and
the Philadelphia Bank. I'm not even sure it is the same George Corn,
no one in the family recognizes the name Chairiman, tho some speculate
perhaps it is the name of other immigrating family members.

So, I'm making use of Google Translator to send messages in Ukrainian
and Russian all over the oblast in which Shargorod is located, trying
to find birth and marriage records. It seems anything that remains is
in an archive in Vinnitsa, and access to it (at least by American
researchers) is very expensive: $40 to request a search, and as much
as $500 for a single record. So, I'm trying to contact residents of
Shargorod and nearby Luchynets (George's wife's hometown). I found a
schoolteacher in Luchynets who is helpful, but only two Jewish
families remain, very elderly, and no one has any recollection of the
Malchuk family (or the Corns). No one >from Shargorod - in libraries,
schools, universities, synagogues, or with YouTube accounts - has
responded.

Other than travelling to Ukraine, which is simply not possible now, is
there any other way for me to have someone browse old documents to
identify my wife's ancestors? Are there historians or genealogists or
rabbis I could contact in the Vinnitsa region of Ukraine who could
help? Or are such records long lost?

Rees Chapman
Dahlonega Georgia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish ancestors from Shargorod, Vinnitsa, Ukraine (1880-1930) #general

DrYattz <winwinsit@...>
 

What a vibrant and involved genealogy group! I've researched my own
genealogy for decades, and find my WASP kin far less helpful.

I'm helping my wife's Philly family in researching their Ukraine
origins. Her grandfather appeared in the Bristol PA census in 1930
with the name George CORN, with his wife Rose MALCHUK Corn and 5 kids,
but nowhere can I find immigration or naturalization documents. My
wife and her sisters want to know what George's surname was before he
entered the US. They doubt Corn or Cornman was the original surname;
the Ukrainian version would not have sounded like the English term for
the vegetable. His grave reads "Gidalya ben Yiheskal" which I
understand means he was called Gidalya. George's son, an uncle and
two nephews were called Oscar, which must be an Americanization of
Yiheskal, after whom they were named. I intend to follow the leads of
many soc.genealogy.jewish groupmembers who have suggested means of
obtaining naturalization intent records >from New York county.

I have what is his supposed birthday - Jan. 1, 1888 - although he may
have been impatient in converting >from the Hebrew to the Roman
calendar, and is thought to have roughly approximated the date.
George is said to have immigrated around 1921, through Philly; his
four older siblings immigrated between 1904 and 1906, and a younger
brother entered the US in 1914. All his siblings' immigration
documents list a last name of Corn, one saying "Cornman." George's
two eldest children were born in Shargorod, but I find no immigration
documents for them; the three youngest were born in Philly. Rose
Corn's Petition for Naturalization dated Oct. 1928 states that she was
born in Lechinsk, Russia (which may have been Luchynets), and that she
entered the US in May 1921. It reads "omitted pursuant to act of
9-22-22" where she is asked to complete the statement "I declared my
intention to become a citizen of the United States on . . ." It says
husband George was nationalized 9-30-1926. The 1930 census has
George, Rose, and the two eldest having immigrated in 1921. On 31 May
1923, a George Corn purchased a prepaid steamship immigrant passage
for Sossie and Yankel CHAIRIMAN, involving Lipshutz/Peoples Bank and
the Philadelphia Bank. I'm not even sure it is the same George Corn,
no one in the family recognizes the name Chairiman, tho some speculate
perhaps it is the name of other immigrating family members.

So, I'm making use of Google Translator to send messages in Ukrainian
and Russian all over the oblast in which Shargorod is located, trying
to find birth and marriage records. It seems anything that remains is
in an archive in Vinnitsa, and access to it (at least by American
researchers) is very expensive: $40 to request a search, and as much
as $500 for a single record. So, I'm trying to contact residents of
Shargorod and nearby Luchynets (George's wife's hometown). I found a
schoolteacher in Luchynets who is helpful, but only two Jewish
families remain, very elderly, and no one has any recollection of the
Malchuk family (or the Corns). No one >from Shargorod - in libraries,
schools, universities, synagogues, or with YouTube accounts - has
responded.

Other than travelling to Ukraine, which is simply not possible now, is
there any other way for me to have someone browse old documents to
identify my wife's ancestors? Are there historians or genealogists or
rabbis I could contact in the Vinnitsa region of Ukraine who could
help? Or are such records long lost?

Rees Chapman
Dahlonega Georgia


Re: tombstone translation help please #general

Janette Silverman <jsilverman@...>
 

There is a free program (open-source) available for windows and macs
called gimp that can be used to covert bmp to jpg. You can read an
description of it and download >from
http://download.cnet.com/GIMP/3000-2192_4-10073935.html

Janette Silverman
Phoenix, AZ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: tombstone translation help please #general

Janette Silverman <jsilverman@...>
 

There is a free program (open-source) available for windows and macs
called gimp that can be used to covert bmp to jpg. You can read an
description of it and download >from
http://download.cnet.com/GIMP/3000-2192_4-10073935.html

Janette Silverman
Phoenix, AZ