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Mysterious numbers tattoo on ggmother who came Odessa->US in 1907 #general

Yaakov Saxon
 

I wonder if anybody might be able to help solve a family mystery. My
father told me that when he was a kid, he noticed that his grandmother
Minnie Rubin had numbers tattooed on her arm, like a holocaust
survivor. The strange thing is that she was nowhere near Europe during
that time.

Minnie was the daughter of Max Teitelbaum (Mordechai Yosef, son of
Tzvi) and Sule Berzansky (Sulia, daughter of Menachem Mendel and Sarah).
Minnie was born in 1901 and came to the US (via port of Quebec, entering
the US in Vermont) with her mother Sule and brother Mendel in 1907 to
join her father Max, who had immigrated earlier (1904?), by an as-yet
undiscovered-by-me route. They came >from Odessa, Russia. The story I've
heard is that Max left to avoid the draft, but I haven't verified that
in any way.
In any case, Minnie lived the rest of her life in the US and was not in
Europe during the Holocaust.

Can anybody provide a clue? Has anybody heard of little girls in Russia
being stamped with numbers on their arm?

Secondarily, the Teitelbaum's (and Berzansky's) are among the last
remaining lines I haven't been able to trace back into Europe. Does
anybody have any relevant info or ideas?

I've heard of men changing their names to avoid the Russian draft. How
would one determine if such a thing had happened? And if so, how would
you trace them back to their real name?

Yaakov Saxon
Queens, NY
Researching NIEROB,TEITELBAUM,BERZANSKY,ALPEROWICZ,KLUPT,AMITIN,
SLAHEVSKI,SLONIM,DINOWICZ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mysterious numbers tattoo on ggmother who came Odessa->US in 1907 #general

Yaakov Saxon
 

I wonder if anybody might be able to help solve a family mystery. My
father told me that when he was a kid, he noticed that his grandmother
Minnie Rubin had numbers tattooed on her arm, like a holocaust
survivor. The strange thing is that she was nowhere near Europe during
that time.

Minnie was the daughter of Max Teitelbaum (Mordechai Yosef, son of
Tzvi) and Sule Berzansky (Sulia, daughter of Menachem Mendel and Sarah).
Minnie was born in 1901 and came to the US (via port of Quebec, entering
the US in Vermont) with her mother Sule and brother Mendel in 1907 to
join her father Max, who had immigrated earlier (1904?), by an as-yet
undiscovered-by-me route. They came >from Odessa, Russia. The story I've
heard is that Max left to avoid the draft, but I haven't verified that
in any way.
In any case, Minnie lived the rest of her life in the US and was not in
Europe during the Holocaust.

Can anybody provide a clue? Has anybody heard of little girls in Russia
being stamped with numbers on their arm?

Secondarily, the Teitelbaum's (and Berzansky's) are among the last
remaining lines I haven't been able to trace back into Europe. Does
anybody have any relevant info or ideas?

I've heard of men changing their names to avoid the Russian draft. How
would one determine if such a thing had happened? And if so, how would
you trace them back to their real name?

Yaakov Saxon
Queens, NY
Researching NIEROB,TEITELBAUM,BERZANSKY,ALPEROWICZ,KLUPT,AMITIN,
SLAHEVSKI,SLONIM,DINOWICZ


Terezin documents: Margot HEYMANN and Kamil KLATSCHER #general

George Fogelson
 

My great aunt survived Theresienstadt and I have a poem to my aunt's
birthday written by Margot Heymann nee Kling knowing that she was
going to be transported to Auschwitz that day:
translation:
Even though I can not be with you I still want to share the joy. I
would have liked so much to be among you - not only because of the
cake of course.
Because Kaetchen has birthday, she is so good, so sweet, so kind,
always in good shape., that is why I can wish her all the best and
wish her that she does not have to live through pain ,I wish her all
the best for this and many more birthdays.

It is written as a poem and in a way you wrote birthday cards at the
time- as if life was totally normal. For example she talks of a
cake/Torte- something totally far away.

Among my aunt's letters is also a document concerning Kamil KLATSCHER

If you are related to either Margot HEYMANN nee RING born 11. 06. 1908
Transport I/105, no. 14035 (11. 01. 1944, Berlin -> Terezin) Transport
Eo, no. 310 (06. 10. 1944, Terezin -> Auschwitz) Murdered

or

Kamil KLATSCHER

Born 31. 01. 1878.
Murdered 10. 08. 1943 Terezin.

Please respond privately and I can forward you the document.

George FOGELSON
Redondo Beach, CA
fogelson@berkeley.edu


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Terezin documents: Margot HEYMANN and Kamil KLATSCHER #general

George Fogelson
 

My great aunt survived Theresienstadt and I have a poem to my aunt's
birthday written by Margot Heymann nee Kling knowing that she was
going to be transported to Auschwitz that day:
translation:
Even though I can not be with you I still want to share the joy. I
would have liked so much to be among you - not only because of the
cake of course.
Because Kaetchen has birthday, she is so good, so sweet, so kind,
always in good shape., that is why I can wish her all the best and
wish her that she does not have to live through pain ,I wish her all
the best for this and many more birthdays.

It is written as a poem and in a way you wrote birthday cards at the
time- as if life was totally normal. For example she talks of a
cake/Torte- something totally far away.

Among my aunt's letters is also a document concerning Kamil KLATSCHER

If you are related to either Margot HEYMANN nee RING born 11. 06. 1908
Transport I/105, no. 14035 (11. 01. 1944, Berlin -> Terezin) Transport
Eo, no. 310 (06. 10. 1944, Terezin -> Auschwitz) Murdered

or

Kamil KLATSCHER

Born 31. 01. 1878.
Murdered 10. 08. 1943 Terezin.

Please respond privately and I can forward you the document.

George FOGELSON
Redondo Beach, CA
fogelson@berkeley.edu


Viewmate translation request - Greek written in Latin letters #general

Rena
 

I would appreciate any assistance translating a 2-page document that I
am hoping will provide clues to the fate of my ancestor. I have been
told it appears to be written by someone who learned to speak Greek
phonetically but not to write it properly. Latin letters were used.
The pages are on Viewmate at the following addresses:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74194

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74195

Some of the writing has faded over time and is not legible, but much
of the text is still clear. Even just learning the gist of the
message will be invaluable.

Thanks so much if you can offer any help.

Please respond using the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Sincerely,
Rena S. Wohl

Boston, MA
USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate translation request - Greek written in Latin letters #general

Rena
 

I would appreciate any assistance translating a 2-page document that I
am hoping will provide clues to the fate of my ancestor. I have been
told it appears to be written by someone who learned to speak Greek
phonetically but not to write it properly. Latin letters were used.
The pages are on Viewmate at the following addresses:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74194

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74195

Some of the writing has faded over time and is not legible, but much
of the text is still clear. Even just learning the gist of the
message will be invaluable.

Thanks so much if you can offer any help.

Please respond using the form provided on the ViewMate image page.

Sincerely,
Rena S. Wohl

Boston, MA
USA


Meir Weissberg and Norbert Aleksandrowicz #general

Palekaiko
 

I have posted this in the past with some results, and now, hoping to
reach a new audience, post again.

Meier Weissberg (Vaysberg or Vaisberg), b 24 Oct 1856 in Bohorodczany,
died 17 Sep 1930 in Stanislawow. He was a noted Judaic scholar and
professor in a high school in Stanislawow.
Anna (nee Chane Sara Gold), died 14 Apr 1936. She was Meier's wife.
Their children were:
-Jozef Karol Weissberg (later changed his name to Bialogorski) born
1887. Lived in L'viv
-Frydryka Weissberg Aleksandrowicz born 1892 in Stanislawow. Her
children were Lidja, b1915; Irena, and Norbert (twins), b 1917, born in Vienna.
-Klara Weissberg Lachs, born in Stnaislawow 1893; lived in Krakow.
-Wilhelm Weissberg, born 1897 Stanislawow.

Norbert Aleksandrowicz was the only member of the family to survive
and lived out his life in Poland, after being re-settled there. He
never married and died of natural causes at age 90 in Klodzko, Poland.

I continue to search for information about this family. Meir
Weissberg is my great-great Uncle, on my father's mother's side. My
father's mother was a Weissberg.

Norbert Aleksandrowicz is my second cousin, once removed.

Thank you,

Michael Diamant
Koloa, Hawaii
Research Weissberg, Aleksandrowicz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Meir Weissberg and Norbert Aleksandrowicz #general

Palekaiko
 

I have posted this in the past with some results, and now, hoping to
reach a new audience, post again.

Meier Weissberg (Vaysberg or Vaisberg), b 24 Oct 1856 in Bohorodczany,
died 17 Sep 1930 in Stanislawow. He was a noted Judaic scholar and
professor in a high school in Stanislawow.
Anna (nee Chane Sara Gold), died 14 Apr 1936. She was Meier's wife.
Their children were:
-Jozef Karol Weissberg (later changed his name to Bialogorski) born
1887. Lived in L'viv
-Frydryka Weissberg Aleksandrowicz born 1892 in Stanislawow. Her
children were Lidja, b1915; Irena, and Norbert (twins), b 1917, born in Vienna.
-Klara Weissberg Lachs, born in Stnaislawow 1893; lived in Krakow.
-Wilhelm Weissberg, born 1897 Stanislawow.

Norbert Aleksandrowicz was the only member of the family to survive
and lived out his life in Poland, after being re-settled there. He
never married and died of natural causes at age 90 in Klodzko, Poland.

I continue to search for information about this family. Meir
Weissberg is my great-great Uncle, on my father's mother's side. My
father's mother was a Weissberg.

Norbert Aleksandrowicz is my second cousin, once removed.

Thank you,

Michael Diamant
Koloa, Hawaii
Research Weissberg, Aleksandrowicz


Goldschmidt family of Zurich and Chief Rabbi of Moscow #general

Neil@...
 

Trying to make contact with the family and parents of Moscow's Chief
Rabbi, Rav Pinchas Goldschmidt, son of Schlome Goldschmidt of Zurich.

Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Goldschmidt family of Zurich and Chief Rabbi of Moscow #general

Neil@...
 

Trying to make contact with the family and parents of Moscow's Chief
Rabbi, Rav Pinchas Goldschmidt, son of Schlome Goldschmidt of Zurich.

Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


Goldschmidt family of Zurich and Chief Rabbi of Moscow #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Trying to make contact with the family and parents of Moscow's Chief
Rabbi, Rav Pinchas Goldschmidt, son of Schlome Goldschmidt of Zurich.

Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Goldschmidt family of Zurich and Chief Rabbi of Moscow #rabbinic

Neil@...
 

Trying to make contact with the family and parents of Moscow's Chief
Rabbi, Rav Pinchas Goldschmidt, son of Schlome Goldschmidt of Zurich.

Neil Rosenstein

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.


Subj: ViewMate translation request - Russian #general

Walter Elias <wselias79@...>
 

I've posted a vital record in Russian for which I need a translation.
It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74230
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.
Walter S. Elias, St. Louis Park, Minnesota, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Subj: ViewMate translation request - Russian #general

Walter Elias <wselias79@...>
 

I've posted a vital record in Russian for which I need a translation.
It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74230
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page.
Thank you very much.
Walter S. Elias, St. Louis Park, Minnesota, USA


Joseph and Drana Sher (Share), mid-1800's in Kadan (Kaunas), Lithuania #general

Rick Cohen
 

I am seeking information of any kind, in regard to my above-named
paternal g-g-grandparents, particularly anything reliable as to
dates/locations of their births/deaths. I have good information on my
great-grandparents, Morris (Maurice Eleazar) Sher (born1865 in Kadan
(Kaunas) Lithuania;died 1930 in Minneapolis, Hennepin Co., Minnesota),
and his wife Fannie Kolansky (Frima Kurland), b.1875 in Kadan, died
8th of August, Hennepin Co., Minnesota. Also, I know that Drana Sher's
maiden name MIGHT have been Garber, and that her sisters' married
names were Sarah Goldman and Molly Goldberg. There was another sister,
Hannah, and a brother Sam. I have not been able to find anything on
Sarah Goldman, or siblings Hannah and Sam.

The name Sher has been variously spelled as Sherr
and Share. For example, my great-grandfather Morris Sher's brother
Hymen Louis spelled his last name Share. He and his wife Lena (maiden
name, I think: Mervitz), are buried in Richfield, Minnesota, along
with the other Sher's with whom I'm familiar. I know that Drana's
sister Molly was married to Shorl Hersh Goldberg, the two of whom I
easily found on Ancestry. Also, Frima Kurland's last name seems to
have been spelled in a variety of ways: Karlanzik and variations
thereof, etc. (In the U.S. censuses, she used the first name of
Fannie.)

The slightest of hints or guesses by any of you, would be
inexpressibly appreciated.

Richard Alan (Rick) Cohen
Hopkins, Minnesota, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Joseph and Drana Sher (Share), mid-1800's in Kadan (Kaunas), Lithuania #general

Rick Cohen
 

I am seeking information of any kind, in regard to my above-named
paternal g-g-grandparents, particularly anything reliable as to
dates/locations of their births/deaths. I have good information on my
great-grandparents, Morris (Maurice Eleazar) Sher (born1865 in Kadan
(Kaunas) Lithuania;died 1930 in Minneapolis, Hennepin Co., Minnesota),
and his wife Fannie Kolansky (Frima Kurland), b.1875 in Kadan, died
8th of August, Hennepin Co., Minnesota. Also, I know that Drana Sher's
maiden name MIGHT have been Garber, and that her sisters' married
names were Sarah Goldman and Molly Goldberg. There was another sister,
Hannah, and a brother Sam. I have not been able to find anything on
Sarah Goldman, or siblings Hannah and Sam.

The name Sher has been variously spelled as Sherr
and Share. For example, my great-grandfather Morris Sher's brother
Hymen Louis spelled his last name Share. He and his wife Lena (maiden
name, I think: Mervitz), are buried in Richfield, Minnesota, along
with the other Sher's with whom I'm familiar. I know that Drana's
sister Molly was married to Shorl Hersh Goldberg, the two of whom I
easily found on Ancestry. Also, Frima Kurland's last name seems to
have been spelled in a variety of ways: Karlanzik and variations
thereof, etc. (In the U.S. censuses, she used the first name of
Fannie.)

The slightest of hints or guesses by any of you, would be
inexpressibly appreciated.

Richard Alan (Rick) Cohen
Hopkins, Minnesota, USA


Change of leadership at Gesher Galicia #galicia

Gesher Galicia SIG
 

After four years as Chair of Gesher Galicia, Tony Kahane is stepping
down >from this position in July 2019. The Board of Directors would
like to express our gratitude to Tony for his tireless efforts on behalf
of the organization. Under his leadership, we have increased our
membership, expanded the All Galicia Database to 630,000 records,
strengthened our internal structures, and forged many new
partnerships, including ones with Ukrainian and Polish archives,
museums, and academic institutions. Tony will continue to serve on
the Board of Directors of Gesher Galicia, leading our continually
expanding research initiatives.

Dr. Steven Turner, a board member, is assuming the position of
President effective July 18, 2019. He has been a member of Gesher
Galicia since 2013, and has served on the board since 2017. He is
the founder of the Nadworna Shtetl Research Group and an active
participant in other grassroots groups interested in genealogy and
the history of Galicia. He is also a member of the Jewish Genealogy
Society of Long Island and the Jewish Genealogical Society of New
York. Steven is involved in research on Ashkenazi DNA and
administers several Jewish DNA projects on FamilyTreeDNA. The
Board of Directors of Gesher Galicia welcomes Steven Turner to his
new role.

For those planning to attend the annual IAJGS meeting in Cleveland,
Steven will be at the conference and looks forward to seeing many
of our members at Gesher Galicia events there, including at our
luncheon, where he will be the guest speaker.

Please look out for future announcements regarding research,
educational opportunities, and other outreach initiatives for the
benefit of our members and the genealogy community at large.


The Board of Directors of Gesher Galicia

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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Change of leadership at Gesher Galicia #galicia

Gesher Galicia SIG
 

After four years as Chair of Gesher Galicia, Tony Kahane is stepping
down >from this position in July 2019. The Board of Directors would
like to express our gratitude to Tony for his tireless efforts on behalf
of the organization. Under his leadership, we have increased our
membership, expanded the All Galicia Database to 630,000 records,
strengthened our internal structures, and forged many new
partnerships, including ones with Ukrainian and Polish archives,
museums, and academic institutions. Tony will continue to serve on
the Board of Directors of Gesher Galicia, leading our continually
expanding research initiatives.

Dr. Steven Turner, a board member, is assuming the position of
President effective July 18, 2019. He has been a member of Gesher
Galicia since 2013, and has served on the board since 2017. He is
the founder of the Nadworna Shtetl Research Group and an active
participant in other grassroots groups interested in genealogy and
the history of Galicia. He is also a member of the Jewish Genealogy
Society of Long Island and the Jewish Genealogical Society of New
York. Steven is involved in research on Ashkenazi DNA and
administers several Jewish DNA projects on FamilyTreeDNA. The
Board of Directors of Gesher Galicia welcomes Steven Turner to his
new role.

For those planning to attend the annual IAJGS meeting in Cleveland,
Steven will be at the conference and looks forward to seeing many
of our members at Gesher Galicia events there, including at our
luncheon, where he will be the guest speaker.

Please look out for future announcements regarding research,
educational opportunities, and other outreach initiatives for the
benefit of our members and the genealogy community at large.


The Board of Directors of Gesher Galicia

---
PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL ADDRESS.
Send all inquiries to info@geshergalicia.org
---


Records of a divorce within the Jewish community of Hamburg in the 1790s #germany

Jeffrey Herrmann
 

My 4th gr.-grandfather, Michel HERSCHEL (aka Meyer Michel HERSCHEL)
was born and lived his entire life in Hamburg. He apparently married
Rane HERSCHEL (possibly a cousin) on an unknown date, although I have
found no marriage record. They had five children between 1790 and
1798.
But in 1800 my 3rd gr.-grandfather, Bernhard Passach HERSCHEL was born
in Hamburg to Michel HERSCHEL and his then wife, Louise WOLFF
(daughter of a prominent Jewish banker in Halle an der Saale).
Although Loiuse WOLFF is described as his wife, I have found no
marriage record. Moreover, Rane HERSCHEL was still alive and lived in
Hamburg until 1839.

The straightforward possibility is that Michel divorced Rane before
1800. If so, what records would one expect to find in the Jewish
communities of Hamburg and nearby Altona?

The second marriage, if there was one, is unrecorded in Hamburg. If
it took place in Halle an der Saale, where would one be likely to find
records of it?

Jeffrey Herrmann jeffrey.herrmann@gmail.com


German SIG #Germany Records of a divorce within the Jewish community of Hamburg in the 1790s #germany

Jeffrey Herrmann
 

My 4th gr.-grandfather, Michel HERSCHEL (aka Meyer Michel HERSCHEL)
was born and lived his entire life in Hamburg. He apparently married
Rane HERSCHEL (possibly a cousin) on an unknown date, although I have
found no marriage record. They had five children between 1790 and
1798.
But in 1800 my 3rd gr.-grandfather, Bernhard Passach HERSCHEL was born
in Hamburg to Michel HERSCHEL and his then wife, Louise WOLFF
(daughter of a prominent Jewish banker in Halle an der Saale).
Although Loiuse WOLFF is described as his wife, I have found no
marriage record. Moreover, Rane HERSCHEL was still alive and lived in
Hamburg until 1839.

The straightforward possibility is that Michel divorced Rane before
1800. If so, what records would one expect to find in the Jewish
communities of Hamburg and nearby Altona?

The second marriage, if there was one, is unrecorded in Hamburg. If
it took place in Halle an der Saale, where would one be likely to find
records of it?

Jeffrey Herrmann jeffrey.herrmann@gmail.com

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