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Training on the New Email System

Kathleen Craine
 

In general the digests are cleaner.  It's obvious that it is made to be easier to read on phones and smaller devices, so for those users who read their email that way, I'm sure this is a vast improvement.  However, it doesn't seem like this system is particularly intuitive.  It takes a lot to figure out.  For example, it's not clear to me why some messages have the user's name as "From", and other messages include the user's email address in the "From" spot.  Including the email address on every message would be optimal, and make it so much easier to "Reply Privately."

I too am annoyed with the zillion of digests each day. I agree with Dick Plotz that the Summary option is not a satisfactory answer--there should be 1 digest per day--period. A Daily Digest is a Daily digest.

Additionally I would like to suggest that a YouTube-like training video (or series of videos) be made available that demonstrates to users, screen by screen, how to navigate this new system.  I think that it would be easier to follow and more effective for many people, rather than written instructions, which can be confusing.

Kathleen Craine
Chicago
kac522@... 


Digests vs Daily Summary

Jeff at SG
 

Like many others, I too am annoyed with the multiple 'digests' per day. Having figured out how to solve it here's what I did. Hopefully it will help others.

To change the mailing frequency you need to first login to jewishgen. Despite belonging to JewishGen for decades, it turns out (so Jewishgen told me) I do not have a password to login! At least that is what I finally discovered.

By going to jewishgen's main website in a browser it finally told me (somewhere) that I did not have a password. JG then sent me from that webpage a special link to my 'profile' which (without needing to log in!!) allowed me to set a password. Needed to be 6 characters at least. Once done I could change the digest frequency from digest to 'Daily Summary'. Hallelujah!

*** SUGGESTIONS TO MODERATORS:
1. The 'default' subscription for everyone who had previously subscribed to 'digest' under the old system should be 'Daily Summary' — NOT the current multiple daily digests — because that's what they had previously subscribed to.

This would result in less people annoyed and in time unsubscribing in frustration,

2. There should be a link at the bottom to go to the subscriber's PROFILE (which if the subscriber has no password or an inadequate password, as was my case) will send the subscriber to where he can set a password.

The current multiple daily 'digests' is ridiculous and contrary to what the word digest currently implies. Otherwise the format is an improvement. What is wrong is defaulting subscribers previously subscribed to daily digest to something other than the logical equivalent DAILY SUMMARY .

Jeff Malka


Re: Stop the daily digests

Diane Jacobs
 

I have always received discussion group email individually and now I am receiving
them as a digest.  This is not what i want.
How do I change it to single posts??
 
Diane Jacobs
geniediane@...
#19629

Moderator Note: go to your profile and change your delivery option to individual. See example below

Email Delivery

Individual Messages You will receive each message in an individual email. Full Featured Digest Group up to 12 messages together as one email instead of being sent individually (rich formatting). Daily Summary A daily summary, delivered in the morning, of the group's messages from the previous day. Special Notices Only You will only receive special notices from the moderators.
 
 
 
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone


All of my hashtags are locked,

Fran Cohen
 

If I go into my hashtags, I find that they are all muted. I am attaching a picture of what I see. Could this be why I am not receiving daily messages from my groups? If not, does anyone know how to get the daily messages from our other groups?
Thank you,
Fran Boss Cohen




Re: #Digest - Solved!

Fran Cohen
 

Thank you Peggy Mosinger Freedman for posting the solution to getting so many messages. I followed your directions and found the link. I then found edit your subscription on the home page and updated my preference to receiving only daily messages. I feel the new site will work great once we all figure it out. We need to help each other, just like you did. Thank you again. Now, if I can or anyone else can figure out how to get our daily postings from our other groups that would be great! 

 


I'm still confused (but at a much higher level now!)

Susan Fifer
 

Like many subscribers I have been trying to understand how the new system
works. Rather than post to the group, I thought I would just query a couple
of things. I used to get digests most days from the following: Jewishgen,
JRI Poland, JGSGB, Gesher Galicia. Others have mentioned that they have
received nothing from these other groups since the new system went live and
I am in the same position. I do not believe the post which said that it was
usual not to have postings in the high holydays period. Have I misunderstood
something? Do I need to sign up elsewhere to get these groups again - I
can't find them after I have logged in. Have they been incorporated in the
main group?

I have changed from having multiple digests per day to having a single
summary but this also doesn't feel comfortable. I download my email from my
server onto Windows Live Mail and am then in a position to read offline if I
wish. Now, if I want to read a topic I have to click on it and then go back
into the main page which is online. My ability/willingness to scan and
process all this is limited. I appreciate all the reasons you gave for
wanting to make the changes. However, while you and your team will have
debated and discussed these in great detail and grown used to them over the
period of development, it suddenly feels like a lot of new learning
"opportunities" have been dumped on me from a great height. One of the
reasons that I don't like Facebook discussions very much is because they
seem so random. If someone responds to an earlier posting one has to go back
and read through the thread. I may be simple or just "an old codger" as
someone put it rather impolitely (I thought) in the main group but I think I
prefer the linear/plain vanilla approach. There were always lots of message
that I could scan and pass over quickly - now I feel controlled by the new
system and the large number of help notes and requirements that are on the
site. Is all this because the site itself is a managed groups site rather
than your own site?

I have no doubt that this will settle down at some point - those who can't
or don't want to deal with the new system will drop out from it. Others will
learn (reluctantly or enthusiastically) and then it will seem as if everyone
loves the new system. At the moment I do not. I will give it another week
but I'm not particularly happy at the moment.

Susan Fifer, Cambridge, England
sue.fifer@...


Re: JewishGen.org Discussion Group - Digest #1

rozen0214@...
 

Given the large number of people who have complained about the new system  without giving specific feedback, I’d like to say this: yes there are glitches, but any new large project such as this one can be expected to have several updates before it operates the ways it was conceived. And in my opinion, it is doing very well considering its very recent launch. Kudos to the people who are putting it together! 🥇It is an enormous task and you are doing an amazing job. 

To the people who are dissatisfied, I’d like to say: please be patient and please do your part: send SPECIFIC feedback, give details of what is not working the way it it supposed to without complaining. Be part of the quality control team that brings the project to completion. Yes you can greatly contribute, even if you know zip about computers! 

This organization is made entirely of people who know what they’re doing, they’ve demonstrated it again and again. Don’t doubt them, don’t be critical, don’t add to the aggravation. When you run into one of the infamous glitches, grind your teeth and/or swear if you have to (I do!), get yourself a cup of your favorite coffee and/or a cookie, send your feedback to this team of magicians and sit tight. They will deliver the goods! In the meantime, let’s give them a hand!! 👏👏👏

Dominique Anderson


Re: Digest

Nancy Holden
 

How do I search the old archived messages? And the old archived Sig messages?

 

Nancy Holden

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


New format

Stephen Katz
 

The new format is not an improvement. It is too complicated to be useful. The ultimate objective of users is to do genealogical research, and the digest should be merely a tool to facilitate research. Users should not have to spend their time grappling with and navigating around its many idiosyncrasies. One example: like others, I was receiving each day a frankly ridiculous number of emails containing messages posted to the digest, until I figured out how to opt to receive only the daily summary. But now, in order to read posts listed on the daily summary, I have to click on a posts's heading, which takes me to a different page, and then, after I've read the post, I have to navigate back to the daily digest to see what other posts I might be interest, and then repeat the process. This is definitely far too cumbersome to be useful.

Stephen Katz


Re: JewishGen.org Discussion Group - Digest #1

petercullman
 

I can’t say that I agree with most of these recent complaints - with the exception of the graphic layout (top and bottom of each digest). An ugly, sickly looking green is not the colour we usually associate with anything pertaining to Jewish matters: a light blue is visually the colour that makes sense for us, pleasing not only to the eye - just saying...

Peter Simonstein Cullman
Toronto


Klyetsk Yizkor Book #belarus

Carol
 

A neighbor of mine has the Yizkor book for Klyetsk, which he would like to
donate to another descendant >from that town. Since I have no idea how
popular this might be, he'll give it to the first person who replies.

Carol Isenberg Clingan
Dedham MA

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately


Belarus SIG #Belarus Klyetsk Yizkor Book #belarus

Carol
 

A neighbor of mine has the Yizkor book for Klyetsk, which he would like to
donate to another descendant >from that town. Since I have no idea how
popular this might be, he'll give it to the first person who replies.

Carol Isenberg Clingan
Dedham MA

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately


Re: Question

Dick Plotz
 

The last GerSIG digest was for October 7. There have been no posts to
GerSIG since then.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA

On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 10:40 PM Terese B. Deboo via
Groups.Jewishgen.Org <tdeboo=mac.com@...> wrote:

I have still not received any SIG emails. The last GERSIG I received, for instance, was October 7. It is difficult to believe that this is because there have been no ERSIG emails.


Password etc

Renate Rosenau
 

Responding

 

I transliterated and translated VM 75434, but I was not able to send it.

I was not able to use View/Reply online.

I do not have a password.

I have sent you my new eMail-address RRoAZ@..., but that is not yet in your system.

 

So I send my translation to VM this way, hoping to get fully into the new system soon.

 

Renate Rosenau, Alzey, Germany

ID 75502, AGNES


Re: Multiple digests

Dick Plotz
 

There is no "daily digest" option. It is a "Daily Summary", which is
roughly comparable to the "Index" option under Lyris (the previous
platform). It provides a listing of subject lines only, along with the
names (or part of the e-mail address for those who don't provide their
names) of the contributors for each subject line. Since many subject
lines are meaningless, this doesn't help at all.

Groups.io (the new platform) offers many other types of subscription
besides the four we are currently presented with. Some of them were
briefly displayed during the beta testing period. Perhaps there is one
that is closer to the old Lyris digests. If that were presented to us
as an option, it would be an improvement. I don't believe there is any
overhead to adding an option. Of course, if 50 new options were all
presented, that would be too confusing, but adding a few selected
options might be helpful. A true daily digest -- one e-mail each
morning with the full text of every post from the previous day and the
name and e-mail address of the sender to allow private replies --
would be a good start.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA


On Sun, Oct 13, 2019 at 11:37 PM <fb645@...> wrote:

Go to your settings and switch your settings from full-featured digest to daily digest. See attached snip.
_._,_._,_


Re: Digest - Solved!

jel
 

The only way I see to get rid of the multiple digests/day (which is a
real pain) is to select Daily Summary, which I did. It appears to
summarize posts /from the day before/. Won't know until tomorrow.

Judith


Re: Stop the daily digests

frafif@...
 

I managed to stop multiple emails. I use Gmail. At the bottom of the mail there is a button that says Home. Click on that and it will take you a site where you can manage your subscriptions, I chose daily summary. Hope this helps. There is a Hebrew expression that states "all beginnings are difficult".


Re: Hebrew/Russian translation requested

Vered Dayan
 

Hi Judy, Those Hebrew letters are actually Yiddish. You should change your message's headline, so Yiddish speakers will know they are asked to help.


Searching EPEL family Lithuania/Latvia

luciana gandelman
 

Hello Judith Dimond,
I am rather new to jewishgen. I have noticed that you are searching the Epel family in Lithuania. I am searching the Epel family in Latvia, but have just learned that my great-great-grandfather (Orel Epel) was born in Lithuania. So I would also like to search for family information in Lithuania. 
Maybe we could exchange information? 

I would love to hear from you.
Best regards,
Luciana

Searching:
EPEL and ABRAMOVITCH in Riga (Latvia)
GANDELMAN (Trinca in Moldava)


Reminder: (US) National Archives Hosts Virtual Genealogy Fair October 23, 2019 Free and Online

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

 

The (US) National Archives will host their 7th annual live virtual Genealogy Fair via a webcast on their YouTube Channel (https://www.youtube.com/user/usnationalarchives).  This is their biggest genealogy event of the year!  This year there will be sessions on preserving personal collections; using records on immigration, World War l, soldiers and marines; Homestead Act and more.

 

Date and Time:  October 23, 2019  10 AM EDT  ( use  http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc to convert to your local time)

 

In addition to the YouTube station (see URL above) you can visit the webpage https://www.archives.gov/calendar/genealogy-fair  For more information and handouts will be available just prior to the event on this webpage.

 

Participants can watch individual sessions, download materials, ask questions, and interact with presenters and other family historians. No need to register - just click and view! If you can’t make it on October 23 the videos and handouts will remain available after the event.

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 

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