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LAPIDAS, Berlin / Kelm #germany

w.fritzsche@...
 

Dear SIGers,
I am searching for Albert LAPIDAS, born about 1882 probably in Kelm,
today Lithuania. He was married to Fanny nee RISCHMANN. Since he was a
Rabbi or Cantor he moved to different towns in today Poland (for example
Schönlanke), Brandenburg and *** Berlin ***. He died 1927 in Florida/USA.

His five children were born at different places. Their dates are well known.
Now I am looking for information about his birthplace and his parents
(possibly his father was Isidor BENDER OR BINDER).
I am interested in every information about the family,
about his parents and how I can search in Kelm.
Thank you very much in advance.

Wolfgang Fritzsche, genealogist, Mainz/Wiesbaden JGID 23278


German SIG #Germany LAPIDAS, Berlin / Kelm #germany

w.fritzsche@...
 

Dear SIGers,
I am searching for Albert LAPIDAS, born about 1882 probably in Kelm,
today Lithuania. He was married to Fanny nee RISCHMANN. Since he was a
Rabbi or Cantor he moved to different towns in today Poland (for example
Schönlanke), Brandenburg and *** Berlin ***. He died 1927 in Florida/USA.

His five children were born at different places. Their dates are well known.
Now I am looking for information about his birthplace and his parents
(possibly his father was Isidor BENDER OR BINDER).
I am interested in every information about the family,
about his parents and how I can search in Kelm.
Thank you very much in advance.

Wolfgang Fritzsche, genealogist, Mainz/Wiesbaden JGID 23278


Need NJ Death Certs from Trenton #general

A. E. Jordan
 

Hoping someone might be able to trade a little research with me. I need
someone who could get me one or two death certificates >from the NJ State
Archives in Trenton. I have the dates >from 1929 and 1933.

I would be happy to trade some New York City work and of course pay for
the printing of the certificates.

Thanks

Allan Jordan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Need NJ Death Certs from Trenton #general

A. E. Jordan
 

Hoping someone might be able to trade a little research with me. I need
someone who could get me one or two death certificates >from the NJ State
Archives in Trenton. I have the dates >from 1929 and 1933.

I would be happy to trade some New York City work and of course pay for
the printing of the certificates.

Thanks

Allan Jordan


Canada Bibliotheque et Archives Nationales du Quebec #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Bibliotheque et Archives nationales du Quebec (BAnQ) [Quebec Library and
Archives] announced it will allow the free use of over 100,000 images and
historical documents. These documents have been in the public domain, and
are on their website. It will be a few months until the documents are easily
identifiable. The project to identify more documents will continue into
2020. The documents will be designated copyright free on the BAnQ website.

The website, http://numerique.banq.qc.ca/ is only in French. Go to:
"Patrimoine Quebecois (Quebec Heritage) will contain the historical
documents identified as in the public domain. Select "nos selections" (our
selections) that includes newspapers, maps, postcards, and photos.
Clicking on:" tout voir" to see everything in the Quebec Heritage
Collection.

Thank you to Gail Dever, and her blog Genealogy a la carte, for sharing this
information.
See : http://genealogyalacarte.ca/?p=28212

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Canada Bibliotheque et Archives Nationales du Quebec #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Bibliotheque et Archives nationales du Quebec (BAnQ) [Quebec Library and
Archives] announced it will allow the free use of over 100,000 images and
historical documents. These documents have been in the public domain, and
are on their website. It will be a few months until the documents are easily
identifiable. The project to identify more documents will continue into
2020. The documents will be designated copyright free on the BAnQ website.

The website, http://numerique.banq.qc.ca/ is only in French. Go to:
"Patrimoine Quebecois (Quebec Heritage) will contain the historical
documents identified as in the public domain. Select "nos selections" (our
selections) that includes newspapers, maps, postcards, and photos.
Clicking on:" tout voir" to see everything in the Quebec Heritage
Collection.

Thank you to Gail Dever, and her blog Genealogy a la carte, for sharing this
information.
See : http://genealogyalacarte.ca/?p=28212

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Obtaining original copies of birth records including parents from 1880s; Odessa Ukraine/Russia #general

Daniel Stein <dstein@...>
 

Hello-

I searched the Odessa Ukraine/Russia birth records and found what I
believe to be the birth record (in English) of my paternal grandfather
and his two brothers.
I'd like to have copies of the original in Russian (which I speak/read
albeit with difficulty), and to establish who the parents were. How can
I do this?

Thank you!

Dan Stein
#829430

MODERATOR NOTE: Most JewishGen databases include a discussion of database
contents and information on how to acquire original records. This is the
case with the "Odesa Birth Index Database," as well. Go to
https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Ukraine/Odessa_birth_index.htm
and use the two links located at the end of the Introduction section.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Obtaining original copies of birth records including parents from 1880s; Odessa Ukraine/Russia #general

Daniel Stein <dstein@...>
 

Hello-

I searched the Odessa Ukraine/Russia birth records and found what I
believe to be the birth record (in English) of my paternal grandfather
and his two brothers.
I'd like to have copies of the original in Russian (which I speak/read
albeit with difficulty), and to establish who the parents were. How can
I do this?

Thank you!

Dan Stein
#829430

MODERATOR NOTE: Most JewishGen databases include a discussion of database
contents and information on how to acquire original records. This is the
case with the "Odesa Birth Index Database," as well. Go to
https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Ukraine/Odessa_birth_index.htm
and use the two links located at the end of the Introduction section.


Wanted: Volunteer Hebrew to Lithuanian Translator #general

Joel Alpert
 

If you or someone you know might help translate a few pages of the
Telshe Yizkor Book >from Hebrew into Lithuanian, please reply to me
directly at YBIP@...

Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor-Books-In-Print Project


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Wanted: Volunteer Hebrew to Lithuanian Translator #general

Joel Alpert
 

If you or someone you know might help translate a few pages of the
Telshe Yizkor Book >from Hebrew into Lithuanian, please reply to me
directly at YBIP@...

Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor-Books-In-Print Project


Wanted: Volunteer Hebrew to Lithuanian Translator #yizkorbooks

Joel Alpert
 

If you or someone you know might help translate a few pages of the
Telshe Yizkor Book >from Hebrew into Lithuanian, please reply to me
directly at YBIP@...

Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor-Books-In-Print Project


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks Wanted: Volunteer Hebrew to Lithuanian Translator #yizkorbooks

Joel Alpert
 

If you or someone you know might help translate a few pages of the
Telshe Yizkor Book >from Hebrew into Lithuanian, please reply to me
directly at YBIP@...

Joel Alpert, Coordinator of the Yizkor-Books-In-Print Project


Re: DNA Matches #dna

David Ellis
 

David Goldman (lugman@...) writes:

I hate to say that I think the matches I am provided through the
various sites are driving me batty. I realize that in most of them called
"third cousin" the longest segment is only around 10 at the most, with
the "overlap" varying below and above 100, but why does the system proclaim
a cousinhood of third cousin or such when this surely doesn't mean that
in most cases?!! All it means is that two people have some common genetic
background at some time in the distant past that is retained in us,
even where some of my matches are with non-Jews who probably had had a
Jewish ancestor in the distant past. But this doesn't translate into
a third or fourth cousin.

Welcome to the wonders of Ashkenazi Jewish endogamy. We are all descended
from a founder population of about 350 people some 700 years ago, when our
numbers hit a bottleneck after the Crusades, the Black Plague and pogroms.
Staying within our own group, we married our first, second or third cousins
for many generations until our population spread and grew much larger in the
18th century. As a result, unlike other European ethnic groups, we share
many common DNA segments >from centuries ago. The DNA experts don't have a
great handle on how to distinguish these >from the segments that legitimately
correspond to genealogically reachable common ancestors.

The vast majority of the DNA matches estimated as third or fourth cousins
are actually quite a bit more distantly related than the results imply.
Hidden among them are a small fraction of sufficiently recent and accessible
relatives. How does one find the needles in the haystack? A rule of thumb
I use is to follow through with matches that share over 100 cM, with a long
segment at least 20 cM and another segment at least 10 cM. It's not
foolproof, but it helps identify promising leads.

Genetic genealogy is still very much a developing field, and the situation
can only improve over time.

---
David J Ellis
Natick, MA 01760
@DavidEllis


DNA Research #DNA RE: DNA Matches #dna

David Ellis
 

David Goldman (lugman@...) writes:

I hate to say that I think the matches I am provided through the
various sites are driving me batty. I realize that in most of them called
"third cousin" the longest segment is only around 10 at the most, with
the "overlap" varying below and above 100, but why does the system proclaim
a cousinhood of third cousin or such when this surely doesn't mean that
in most cases?!! All it means is that two people have some common genetic
background at some time in the distant past that is retained in us,
even where some of my matches are with non-Jews who probably had had a
Jewish ancestor in the distant past. But this doesn't translate into
a third or fourth cousin.

Welcome to the wonders of Ashkenazi Jewish endogamy. We are all descended
from a founder population of about 350 people some 700 years ago, when our
numbers hit a bottleneck after the Crusades, the Black Plague and pogroms.
Staying within our own group, we married our first, second or third cousins
for many generations until our population spread and grew much larger in the
18th century. As a result, unlike other European ethnic groups, we share
many common DNA segments >from centuries ago. The DNA experts don't have a
great handle on how to distinguish these >from the segments that legitimately
correspond to genealogically reachable common ancestors.

The vast majority of the DNA matches estimated as third or fourth cousins
are actually quite a bit more distantly related than the results imply.
Hidden among them are a small fraction of sufficiently recent and accessible
relatives. How does one find the needles in the haystack? A rule of thumb
I use is to follow through with matches that share over 100 cM, with a long
segment at least 20 cM and another segment at least 10 cM. It's not
foolproof, but it helps identify promising leads.

Genetic genealogy is still very much a developing field, and the situation
can only improve over time.

---
David J Ellis
Natick, MA 01760
@DavidEllis


Re: DNA Matches #dna

Martin Davis (com)
 

David Gold wrote: I am just about ready to give up contacting the vast
majority of matches I am provided with by the various sites. It just
doesn't mean anything for family genealogy within the past one or two
centuries. Some of my own relatives keep asking me, "How far back do you
want to do this?! Of course we are all related at some point, what's the
big deal?!" Sometimes I have no answer for such questions.

Much of what we see on the pages of commercial providers is targeted at
customer recruitment, retention and development. DNA notifications of
'cousin matches' are definitely part of that marketing, a redefining of
the words to make shared, but quite distant, DNA kit matches sound closer
than they actually are. That way commercial company findings become just
that much more relevant to the customer. The matches are normally real
enough but just not normally combinable with a family tree of specific
named ancestors.

In the case of autosomal DNA, if like David you are straightforwardly
interested in making a family tree which stretches as far back as it can
be taken, you will be dissatisfied with most DNA results below a quite
high segment threshold - and definitely will find small segments with
limited SNPs and limited cM size way too obscure. However, if you want
to explore the more general historic landscape which your ancestors
occupied (the time before Poland, Russia or Lithuania etc.) then those
tiny segments which link you to people of Mediterranean etc. origins,
can open the door to a better understanding of historic locations,
migration patterns etc.

Remembering that many people's interests are, like David's, focussed
on building their own family tree and not conducting general historic
research, writing to matches, especially the more distant ones, can be
useful but also at times fruitless.

Martin Davis (London - UK)


DNA Research #DNA Re: DNA Matches #dna

Martin Davis (com)
 

David Gold wrote: I am just about ready to give up contacting the vast
majority of matches I am provided with by the various sites. It just
doesn't mean anything for family genealogy within the past one or two
centuries. Some of my own relatives keep asking me, "How far back do you
want to do this?! Of course we are all related at some point, what's the
big deal?!" Sometimes I have no answer for such questions.

Much of what we see on the pages of commercial providers is targeted at
customer recruitment, retention and development. DNA notifications of
'cousin matches' are definitely part of that marketing, a redefining of
the words to make shared, but quite distant, DNA kit matches sound closer
than they actually are. That way commercial company findings become just
that much more relevant to the customer. The matches are normally real
enough but just not normally combinable with a family tree of specific
named ancestors.

In the case of autosomal DNA, if like David you are straightforwardly
interested in making a family tree which stretches as far back as it can
be taken, you will be dissatisfied with most DNA results below a quite
high segment threshold - and definitely will find small segments with
limited SNPs and limited cM size way too obscure. However, if you want
to explore the more general historic landscape which your ancestors
occupied (the time before Poland, Russia or Lithuania etc.) then those
tiny segments which link you to people of Mediterranean etc. origins,
can open the door to a better understanding of historic locations,
migration patterns etc.

Remembering that many people's interests are, like David's, focussed
on building their own family tree and not conducting general historic
research, writing to matches, especially the more distant ones, can be
useful but also at times fruitless.

Martin Davis (London - UK)


Town Name Wombiev #general

Cindy Taylor
 

Genners,

This town name appears in a couple of records for one Morris Greenbaum
(Revere, MA) and I've been unable to track it down. One census says
Morris born in Germany while another says Russia-Poland. I ran it on
JewishGen as **fuzziest** and up came Dabie, Poland. He naturalized
**very** early, ergo ,no town/shtetl listed. I've done a Google search
to no avail. Suggestions please.

Cindy Potter Taylor-Boynton Beach, FL


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Town Name Wombiev #general

Cindy Taylor
 

Genners,

This town name appears in a couple of records for one Morris Greenbaum
(Revere, MA) and I've been unable to track it down. One census says
Morris born in Germany while another says Russia-Poland. I ran it on
JewishGen as **fuzziest** and up came Dabie, Poland. He naturalized
**very** early, ergo ,no town/shtetl listed. I've done a Google search
to no avail. Suggestions please.

Cindy Potter Taylor-Boynton Beach, FL


Seeking a researcher (Grodno or Minsk, Belarus) #general

Miriam Talisman
 

I would appreciate it if someone on this forum could recommend a reliable
researcher in Grodno (or perhaps Minsk). I am looking for records that date
back to around 1850-1890. If anyone can recommend someone whose services
they have used, I would be very grateful.

Thank you,
Miriam Talisman

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately via email to Miriam. Don't forget to
check the JewishGen InfoFile, "Finding a Professional Genealogist," at
https://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/Researchers.htm


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking a researcher (Grodno or Minsk, Belarus) #general

Miriam Talisman
 

I would appreciate it if someone on this forum could recommend a reliable
researcher in Grodno (or perhaps Minsk). I am looking for records that date
back to around 1850-1890. If anyone can recommend someone whose services
they have used, I would be very grateful.

Thank you,
Miriam Talisman

MODERATOR NOTE: Please respond privately via email to Miriam. Don't forget to
check the JewishGen InfoFile, "Finding a Professional Genealogist," at
https://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/Researchers.htm