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MyHeritage DNA Study Reveals Hungary Has World's Second Largest Percentage of Population with Jewish (Ashkenazi) Ethnicity #hungary

Jan Meisels Allen
 

A new study MyHeritage DNA did with Dr. Daniel Staetsky, a statistician and
demographer uncovered the number of people descended >from Jewish ancestors
in Hungary is higher than other demographers have previously estimated.

The first study of its kind revealed that the country with the highest
proportion of Ashkenazi Jewish ethnicity after Israel was Hungary. It was
previously thought it was the United States. The study showed: After Israel,
the top countries in terms of significant Ashkenazi Jewish ethnicity were
Hungary and Russia, followed by Argentina, South Africa, Ukraine, and then
the USA. The analysis was a cohort of 1.8 million anonymized DNA tests
taken by MyHeritage customers worldwide. The study included 100 countries.

A much lower percentage of people in Hungary, who self-identify as being
Jews, is substantially lower compared with the DNA test-takers, even after
adjusting for a degree of selectivity of MyHeritage users (most educated and
well to do classes since commercial genetic testing which is more likely to
be used by those cohorts.) It is also assumed that more Hungarian Jews
assimilated into the local population before the Holocaust, more Hungarians
survived the Holocaust than Jews in Poland, and more Jews remained in
Hungary than in Poland following the Holocaust.

Jews have a long history in Hungary dating back to at least the early 13th
century. By the early 20th century Jews constituted 5 % of Hungary?s total
population and Jews comprised 23% of Budapest. (These are not MyHeritage?s
numbers.) By 1941, over 17% of Budapest?s Jews were Roman Catholic converts,
following coordinated pressure across Europe that began with the Spanish
Inquisition in the late 15th century. Over 560,000 Hungarian Jews were
murdered in Holocaust.

The MyHeritage study also revealed Russia having many more people with
Jewish ethnicity than demographers expected.

To read more including the percentages of population with Ashkenazi Jewish
ethnicity see:
https://blog.myheritage.com/2019/08/hungarys-secret-new-study-by-myheritage/


Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Hungary SIG #Hungary MyHeritage DNA Study Reveals Hungary Has World's Second Largest Percentage of Population with Jewish (Ashkenazi) Ethnicity #hungary

Jan Meisels Allen
 

A new study MyHeritage DNA did with Dr. Daniel Staetsky, a statistician and
demographer uncovered the number of people descended >from Jewish ancestors
in Hungary is higher than other demographers have previously estimated.

The first study of its kind revealed that the country with the highest
proportion of Ashkenazi Jewish ethnicity after Israel was Hungary. It was
previously thought it was the United States. The study showed: After Israel,
the top countries in terms of significant Ashkenazi Jewish ethnicity were
Hungary and Russia, followed by Argentina, South Africa, Ukraine, and then
the USA. The analysis was a cohort of 1.8 million anonymized DNA tests
taken by MyHeritage customers worldwide. The study included 100 countries.

A much lower percentage of people in Hungary, who self-identify as being
Jews, is substantially lower compared with the DNA test-takers, even after
adjusting for a degree of selectivity of MyHeritage users (most educated and
well to do classes since commercial genetic testing which is more likely to
be used by those cohorts.) It is also assumed that more Hungarian Jews
assimilated into the local population before the Holocaust, more Hungarians
survived the Holocaust than Jews in Poland, and more Jews remained in
Hungary than in Poland following the Holocaust.

Jews have a long history in Hungary dating back to at least the early 13th
century. By the early 20th century Jews constituted 5 % of Hungary?s total
population and Jews comprised 23% of Budapest. (These are not MyHeritage?s
numbers.) By 1941, over 17% of Budapest?s Jews were Roman Catholic converts,
following coordinated pressure across Europe that began with the Spanish
Inquisition in the late 15th century. Over 560,000 Hungarian Jews were
murdered in Holocaust.

The MyHeritage study also revealed Russia having many more people with
Jewish ethnicity than demographers expected.

To read more including the percentages of population with Ashkenazi Jewish
ethnicity see:
https://blog.myheritage.com/2019/08/hungarys-secret-new-study-by-myheritage/


Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Michael Kaufer #galicia

Stuart Kaufer
 

I am searching for the family of Michael Kaufer. Mr. Kaufer was in
some way related to my Kaufer family relatives. >from his draft card. 66
which I located for WWI he lived on Sawyer Ave. in Chicago with his
wife Sadie Scher Kaufer who he married in Chicago in 1900.

The reasonI am certain that he was a relative was that his employer was
listed as Goldenberg Furniture Co on Halsted St in Chicago. This is also
where my paternal GF Edward Kaufer worked. My GF was very closed
off when discussing his family and I never heard mention of a Michael
which is quite odd since they worked at the same place. I am trying
to determine if MIchael was one of the children of my paternal GGF
Salomon Kaufer and his wife Rebecca Steinlauff or some other relative?
My dad, Ernest also never discussed family and he is also deceased
now so there is really no one to ask.

They had two children listed in 1910 census as
Jeronon born 1901
Lillian born 1903.

I found some information indicating that Jeronon died at the age of 57
in West Palm Beach, Fl. Lillian Kaufer married someone named
Richmond and had a daughter Coleen Richmond Siet.

If anyone can shed light on this I would be grateful. Just trying to
put a full family tree together.

Stuart Kaufer


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Michael Kaufer #galicia

Stuart Kaufer
 

I am searching for the family of Michael Kaufer. Mr. Kaufer was in
some way related to my Kaufer family relatives. >from his draft card. 66
which I located for WWI he lived on Sawyer Ave. in Chicago with his
wife Sadie Scher Kaufer who he married in Chicago in 1900.

The reasonI am certain that he was a relative was that his employer was
listed as Goldenberg Furniture Co on Halsted St in Chicago. This is also
where my paternal GF Edward Kaufer worked. My GF was very closed
off when discussing his family and I never heard mention of a Michael
which is quite odd since they worked at the same place. I am trying
to determine if MIchael was one of the children of my paternal GGF
Salomon Kaufer and his wife Rebecca Steinlauff or some other relative?
My dad, Ernest also never discussed family and he is also deceased
now so there is really no one to ask.

They had two children listed in 1910 census as
Jeronon born 1901
Lillian born 1903.

I found some information indicating that Jeronon died at the age of 57
in West Palm Beach, Fl. Lillian Kaufer married someone named
Richmond and had a daughter Coleen Richmond Siet.

If anyone can shed light on this I would be grateful. Just trying to
put a full family tree together.

Stuart Kaufer


Re: Marriage, religious and civil #unitedkingdom

Eva Lawrence
 

Pierre M Hahn asked: In France one needs a civil marriage to be “married”, what
is the law in England?

In England, in 1877, a religious marriage had (and still has) the same
standing as a civil one,. However, it needs to be registered officially
at the General Register Office by attestation >from the presiding cleric.
I've seen copies of affidavits to this effect.

Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: Marriage, religious and civil #unitedkingdom

Eva Lawrence
 

Pierre M Hahn asked: In France one needs a civil marriage to be “married”, what
is the law in England?

In England, in 1877, a religious marriage had (and still has) the same
standing as a civil one,. However, it needs to be registered officially
at the General Register Office by attestation >from the presiding cleric.
I've seen copies of affidavits to this effect.

Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.


Abbreviations used in Hamburg cemetery records #germany

Jeffrey Herrmann
 

In a file labelled "Hamburg birth and cemetery records" in
the Jacob Jacobson Collection at the Leo Baeck Institute there is a
transcription >from the (presumably) Yiddish records of the Wandsbek
Cemetery in Hamburg. The transcriber used various abbreviations but
provided no key to what they mean. I have set forth below, verbatim,
the entries that relate to my HERSCHEL/HERSCHL/HIRSCHEL ancestors.

r Meir b c Zwi Herschel

PvM Benjamin Wolf b c Zwi Herschl

Gitel asht PvM Benjamin Wolf b Zwi Herschl

bch Simchah b PvM r Wolf

PvM r' Meir b r PvM r' Wolf Hirshel

Michael b PvM r' Meir Herschel

Fromet asht PvM r' Meir Herschl

I would greatly appreciate any help in deciphering these abbreviations
used by the transcriber.

Jeffrey Herrmann jeffrey.herrmann@gmail.com


German SIG #Germany Abbreviations used in Hamburg cemetery records #germany

Jeffrey Herrmann
 

In a file labelled "Hamburg birth and cemetery records" in
the Jacob Jacobson Collection at the Leo Baeck Institute there is a
transcription >from the (presumably) Yiddish records of the Wandsbek
Cemetery in Hamburg. The transcriber used various abbreviations but
provided no key to what they mean. I have set forth below, verbatim,
the entries that relate to my HERSCHEL/HERSCHL/HIRSCHEL ancestors.

r Meir b c Zwi Herschel

PvM Benjamin Wolf b c Zwi Herschl

Gitel asht PvM Benjamin Wolf b Zwi Herschl

bch Simchah b PvM r Wolf

PvM r' Meir b r PvM r' Wolf Hirshel

Michael b PvM r' Meir Herschel

Fromet asht PvM r' Meir Herschl

I would greatly appreciate any help in deciphering these abbreviations
used by the transcriber.

Jeffrey Herrmann jeffrey.herrmann@gmail.com


Re: adoption records UK #general

cecilia <myths@...>
 

https://www.gov.uk/adoption-records

Cecilia Nyleve

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On 12 Aug 2019 11:01:26 -0700, jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org (Karen
Renee Sobel k.silver915@gmail.com) wrote:

I am looking for someone in the UK to help assist in getting adoption
records on my friends Mother. She was adopted rather quickly
supposedly >from Cologne in 1938. The adoptive parents did not file for
birth certificate until 1950. I will accept any and all referrals.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: adoption records UK #general

cecilia <myths@...>
 

https://www.gov.uk/adoption-records

Cecilia Nyleve

---
On 12 Aug 2019 11:01:26 -0700, jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org (Karen
Renee Sobel k.silver915@gmail.com) wrote:

I am looking for someone in the UK to help assist in getting adoption
records on my friends Mother. She was adopted rather quickly
supposedly >from Cologne in 1938. The adoptive parents did not file for
birth certificate until 1950. I will accept any and all referrals.


Re: Visit JewishGen’s New Website!

Sally Bruckheimer
 

I read the email in Yahoo mail, and I can reply to the group. I have the Full Featured Digest, and I can reply to any posting in my email. You will note, however, that the topic of the reply is the (incorrect) topic of the posting.

I can also reply through the website if I want.

I can also post a new topic from my email in Yahoo.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


Israel Galad descendant #ukraine

Barry E Chernick
 

If you are a descendant or relative of Israel Galad please contact me.
Israel Galad, b. Jan 1, 1895 in Krasilov Ukraine. d. Nov 15, 1981
Brooklyn NY
Wife: Anna Kleinman
Daughters: Celia Guttman, Ruth Marcus.
He may have been a brother of Israel Golodner.
About 10 years ago I did research on Israel for a fellow Genner. I have a
lot of documents about Israel and his family (public records). I am about
to "reduce" my web site size and would like to make sure the family has
copies of the documents of interest to them.

Barry Chernick
Bellevue, WA


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Israel Galad descendant #ukraine

Barry E Chernick
 

If you are a descendant or relative of Israel Galad please contact me.
Israel Galad, b. Jan 1, 1895 in Krasilov Ukraine. d. Nov 15, 1981
Brooklyn NY
Wife: Anna Kleinman
Daughters: Celia Guttman, Ruth Marcus.
He may have been a brother of Israel Golodner.
About 10 years ago I did research on Israel for a fellow Genner. I have a
lot of documents about Israel and his family (public records). I am about
to "reduce" my web site size and would like to make sure the family has
copies of the documents of interest to them.

Barry Chernick
Bellevue, WA


Freudel MUNZESHEIMER of Stebbach, Baden #germany

Ralph Baer
 

In September 2017, I wrote a message to GerSIG asking about the family of my
great-great-grandfather's sister Dolz (Theresa in the US) BAER, born in 1796
in Malsch near Ettlingen in Baden. She married Isaak MUNZESHEIMER (umlaut on
U) in 1831 in Stebbach, also in Baden. In 2017, I had just located their
ship record >from 1840 to the US. They traveled with the four children from
their marriage, Caroline, the illegitimate daughter of Theresa, and another
young woman Fanny MUNZESHEIMER, listed as 19 in 1840. The family became
MINZESHEIMER in the US.

At the time, I had thought that Fanny was another illegitimate daughter of
Theresa. She could not have been Isaak's daughter because she was less than
10 years younger than he. I now think, for several reasons, that she was
just traveling with the family, and she probably was Freudel MUNZESHEIMER.
Freudel was a daughter of Falk Lazarus MUNZESHEIMER and Rieke EISENMANN
(various spellings to both the given and family name) who was born on August
12, 1816 in Stebbach. That would make her older than Fanny on the ship
record, but not something completely out of the ordinary.

Fanny married Jacob MUHLHAUSER in the US. Among their children was
Frederick, who could have been named for Freudel's father, and Rebecca and
Rosa, either of whom could have been named for her mother.

Is anyone familiar with Freudel? For example if she remained in Germany,
then I am wrong.

Ralph N. Baer Washington, D.C. RalphNBaer@aol.com


German SIG #Germany Freudel MUNZESHEIMER of Stebbach, Baden #germany

Ralph Baer
 

In September 2017, I wrote a message to GerSIG asking about the family of my
great-great-grandfather's sister Dolz (Theresa in the US) BAER, born in 1796
in Malsch near Ettlingen in Baden. She married Isaak MUNZESHEIMER (umlaut on
U) in 1831 in Stebbach, also in Baden. In 2017, I had just located their
ship record >from 1840 to the US. They traveled with the four children from
their marriage, Caroline, the illegitimate daughter of Theresa, and another
young woman Fanny MUNZESHEIMER, listed as 19 in 1840. The family became
MINZESHEIMER in the US.

At the time, I had thought that Fanny was another illegitimate daughter of
Theresa. She could not have been Isaak's daughter because she was less than
10 years younger than he. I now think, for several reasons, that she was
just traveling with the family, and she probably was Freudel MUNZESHEIMER.
Freudel was a daughter of Falk Lazarus MUNZESHEIMER and Rieke EISENMANN
(various spellings to both the given and family name) who was born on August
12, 1816 in Stebbach. That would make her older than Fanny on the ship
record, but not something completely out of the ordinary.

Fanny married Jacob MUHLHAUSER in the US. Among their children was
Frederick, who could have been named for Freudel's father, and Rebecca and
Rosa, either of whom could have been named for her mother.

Is anyone familiar with Freudel? For example if she remained in Germany,
then I am wrong.

Ralph N. Baer Washington, D.C. RalphNBaer@aol.com


Re: Abbreviations used in Hamburg cemetery records #germany

Brian Stern <brians99@...>
 

There is a Jewishgen info file on this topic:
https://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/tombstones.html
See also: http://sites.rootsweb.com/~orjgs/Abrrev.pdf

asht is ashet meaning 'wife of'
b is ben meaning 'son of'
c means "honorable" or 'the honored'
r is reb meaning Mr.
PvM not sure about this one. =46rom the context it seems to mean
"deceased'. M is an abbreviation for menot meaning "deceased".

Brian Stern, Lexington, KY brians99@bellsouth.net

On Aug 16, 2019, Jeffrey Warren Herrmann jeffrey.herrmann@gmail.com
wrote:
In a file labelled "Hamburg birth and cemetery records" in
the Jacob Jacobson Collection at the Leo Baeck Institute there is a
transcription >from the (presumably) Yiddish records of the Wandsbek
Cemetery in Hamburg. The transcriber used various abbreviations but
provided no key to what they mean. I have set forth below, verbatim,
the entries that relate to my HERSCHEL/HERSCHL/HIRSCHEL ancestors.
r Meir b c Zwi Herschel
PvM Benjamin Wolf b c Zwi Herschl
Gitel asht PvM Benjamin Wolf b Zwi Herschl
bch Simchah b PvM r Wolf
PvM r' Meir b r PvM r' Wolf Hirshel
Michael b PvM r' Meir Herschel
Fromet asht PvM r' Meir Herschl
I would greatly appreciate any help in deciphering these abbreviations
used by the transcriber.


German SIG #Germany Re: Abbreviations used in Hamburg cemetery records #germany

Brian Stern <brians99@...>
 

There is a Jewishgen info file on this topic:
https://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/tombstones.html
See also: http://sites.rootsweb.com/~orjgs/Abrrev.pdf

asht is ashet meaning 'wife of'
b is ben meaning 'son of'
c means "honorable" or 'the honored'
r is reb meaning Mr.
PvM not sure about this one. =46rom the context it seems to mean
"deceased'. M is an abbreviation for menot meaning "deceased".

Brian Stern, Lexington, KY brians99@bellsouth.net

On Aug 16, 2019, Jeffrey Warren Herrmann jeffrey.herrmann@gmail.com
wrote:
In a file labelled "Hamburg birth and cemetery records" in
the Jacob Jacobson Collection at the Leo Baeck Institute there is a
transcription >from the (presumably) Yiddish records of the Wandsbek
Cemetery in Hamburg. The transcriber used various abbreviations but
provided no key to what they mean. I have set forth below, verbatim,
the entries that relate to my HERSCHEL/HERSCHL/HIRSCHEL ancestors.
r Meir b c Zwi Herschel
PvM Benjamin Wolf b c Zwi Herschl
Gitel asht PvM Benjamin Wolf b Zwi Herschl
bch Simchah b PvM r Wolf
PvM r' Meir b r PvM r' Wolf Hirshel
Michael b PvM r' Meir Herschel
Fromet asht PvM r' Meir Herschl
I would greatly appreciate any help in deciphering these abbreviations
used by the transcriber.


This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #general

Bruce Drake
 

The Nazi extermination camps epitomized the horror of the Holocaust,
but so did the terrifying experience and inhuman conditions suffered
by Jews packed into the trains that took them there. Some knew for
sure what their fate would be, some did not or clung to slim hopes
that they might survive.

Zvi Faigenbaum "had no illusions concerning the intentions of the
Germans" and was determined to escape. "We Jumped >from the Railway Car
of Death, >from the Yizkor book of Wierzbnik, Poland, is his account of
that escape, which he made with his daughter, and others in his rail
car. Then it was a long journey through country where even sympathetic
Poles feared for the lives if they helped or sheltered a Jew.
Ultimately, he reached the Lukow ghetto. "For a time we were safe," he
wrote, "but only 'for a time.'"

URL: https://www.facebook.com/JewishGen.org/posts/2443023462386461

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring MD

Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK
Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #general

Bruce Drake
 

The Nazi extermination camps epitomized the horror of the Holocaust,
but so did the terrifying experience and inhuman conditions suffered
by Jews packed into the trains that took them there. Some knew for
sure what their fate would be, some did not or clung to slim hopes
that they might survive.

Zvi Faigenbaum "had no illusions concerning the intentions of the
Germans" and was determined to escape. "We Jumped >from the Railway Car
of Death, >from the Yizkor book of Wierzbnik, Poland, is his account of
that escape, which he made with his daughter, and others in his rail
car. Then it was a long journey through country where even sympathetic
Poles feared for the lives if they helped or sheltered a Jew.
Ultimately, he reached the Lukow ghetto. "For a time we were safe," he
wrote, "but only 'for a time.'"

URL: https://www.facebook.com/JewishGen.org/posts/2443023462386461

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring MD

Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK
Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel


looking for information on how to do a one name studied - name shevakh #general

Moshe Schaeffer
 

I would like to start a one-name studied based on my
great-great-grandfathers lasted name before he changed it when he
entered the USA. I am looking for guidance on how to go about doing
this any advice or direction would be of great help. This is my
starting point.

I found that my great grandfather came >from "the Peski town-dweller of
the Volkovysk district Zelman-Leiba ben Kivel [in the record Kivelev]
Shevakh 28 years old married to Kovno town-dweller Mina or Mina-Gena
bat Movsha [in the record Movshovna] Shuval 25 years old. The record
was registered in Kovno on the 19 of June 1897." This information came
from the Lithuanian State Historical Archives. I am very interested in
one story that my father used to say and that I heard >from someone
else with this same last name that there is a tradition that the
family came >from Spain directly to Poland. This name is not a typical
Ashkenazi last name.

I have decided to start a one-name project based on the name SHEVAKH
or SCHEWACH or SZEWACH or SEVACH or SZEJWACH.

Thank you for your help in this matter. Have a great day.
Moshe Schaeffer
Jerusalem

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