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BORKOWSKY - Siberia and China #general

Myra & Peter Waddell <mpwaddell@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I have recently discovered that my great-grandparents lived, and were
maybe born, in Irkutsk, Siberia. This is what I have discovered so far:

My Grandfather Schmuel's parents were Keila and David Yosef BORKOWSKY.
They lived in Irkutsk, Siberia but I haven't been able to discover
whether or not they were born there. Schmuel was probably the second of
their six children. His siblings were Pasha, Rachelle, who was
definitely born in Irkutsk, Moshe, Riva and Boris who was also known as
Berl.

Pasha was possibly born in the early 1860s. She married David BINDER;
they had no children and died in Hailar or Harbin in China.

Schmuel was born 15th April, 1870, in Kolno, Lomza Gubernia, in the
Province of Bialystok, Poland

Rachelle was born in 1884. She married Shimon LITVIN and they had five
children, two of whom moved to Israel (Tima and Leah) and their eldest
daughter, Bluma, either returned to Russia or went to live in America.
Bluma and her husband, whose given name I don't know, Mordechowits, had
two daughters, Katie and Margaret.

Rachelle's and Simon's second son, Moshe, died when only a child. Their
youngest daughter, Dina, left China (where she was born) in 1958 so she,
her husband, Abraham and their two children could live in Melbourne,
Australia.

Moshe Borkowsky moved to Switzerland. He was a watchmaker/jeweller and
married Maria, who was also born in Russia and who followed him to
Switzerland. They had no children.

Boris was born 1886/7. He married his niece, Chaya. After Boris was
murdered in Hailar at the end of WWII, Chaya moved to Israel with their
two sons, David and Yosef.

Riva had at least one daughter, Chaya who was born in Irkutsk about 1901
? probably two others.

Is it possible to get any more information about this family? If so, how
can I do this?

I thank you in advance for your help. Myra Waddell (Adelaide, South
Australia)

GOLDENBERG, SAMUELS, Romania. France - Paris. England - London and
Liverpool.
BORKOVSKY/BORKOWSKY, Poland - Kolno, Lomza Gubernia. Siberia - Irkutsk.
France - Paris. England - London and Liverpool.
OUZNER, OSNER, POSNER, Romania - Khotin. England - London. POSNER also
America. BORZIANSKY, Ukraine - Kamenets-Podolskiy and Winnitza.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BORKOWSKY - Siberia and China #general

Myra & Peter Waddell <mpwaddell@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I have recently discovered that my great-grandparents lived, and were
maybe born, in Irkutsk, Siberia. This is what I have discovered so far:

My Grandfather Schmuel's parents were Keila and David Yosef BORKOWSKY.
They lived in Irkutsk, Siberia but I haven't been able to discover
whether or not they were born there. Schmuel was probably the second of
their six children. His siblings were Pasha, Rachelle, who was
definitely born in Irkutsk, Moshe, Riva and Boris who was also known as
Berl.

Pasha was possibly born in the early 1860s. She married David BINDER;
they had no children and died in Hailar or Harbin in China.

Schmuel was born 15th April, 1870, in Kolno, Lomza Gubernia, in the
Province of Bialystok, Poland

Rachelle was born in 1884. She married Shimon LITVIN and they had five
children, two of whom moved to Israel (Tima and Leah) and their eldest
daughter, Bluma, either returned to Russia or went to live in America.
Bluma and her husband, whose given name I don't know, Mordechowits, had
two daughters, Katie and Margaret.

Rachelle's and Simon's second son, Moshe, died when only a child. Their
youngest daughter, Dina, left China (where she was born) in 1958 so she,
her husband, Abraham and their two children could live in Melbourne,
Australia.

Moshe Borkowsky moved to Switzerland. He was a watchmaker/jeweller and
married Maria, who was also born in Russia and who followed him to
Switzerland. They had no children.

Boris was born 1886/7. He married his niece, Chaya. After Boris was
murdered in Hailar at the end of WWII, Chaya moved to Israel with their
two sons, David and Yosef.

Riva had at least one daughter, Chaya who was born in Irkutsk about 1901
? probably two others.

Is it possible to get any more information about this family? If so, how
can I do this?

I thank you in advance for your help. Myra Waddell (Adelaide, South
Australia)

GOLDENBERG, SAMUELS, Romania. France - Paris. England - London and
Liverpool.
BORKOVSKY/BORKOWSKY, Poland - Kolno, Lomza Gubernia. Siberia - Irkutsk.
France - Paris. England - London and Liverpool.
OUZNER, OSNER, POSNER, Romania - Khotin. England - London. POSNER also
America. BORZIANSKY, Ukraine - Kamenets-Podolskiy and Winnitza.


Re: Felik as a Jewish first name (Yiddish?) #general

MBernet@...
 

Avigdor Ben-Dov wrote

In my genealogy searches, I found the name Felik (transliterated from
the Hebrew) which could, perhaps, be also pronounced Pelek.
The name does not seem to fit common first names. Is this like Felix?
I don't think this is a common Polish name either. Any suggestions?
Perhaps this name is familiar to the List?
Felix is Latin for "happy." Felix is likely to be the name given to a man
named Simcha in Hebrew, or one of the many names such as Asher connected to
happiness, It may also be related to a Hebre/Yiddish name via an initial
letter. Feyvush/Feivel is the most likely.

Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Felik as a Jewish first name (Yiddish?) #general

MBernet@...
 

Avigdor Ben-Dov wrote

In my genealogy searches, I found the name Felik (transliterated from
the Hebrew) which could, perhaps, be also pronounced Pelek.
The name does not seem to fit common first names. Is this like Felix?
I don't think this is a common Polish name either. Any suggestions?
Perhaps this name is familiar to the List?
Felix is Latin for "happy." Felix is likely to be the name given to a man
named Simcha in Hebrew, or one of the many names such as Asher connected to
happiness, It may also be related to a Hebre/Yiddish name via an initial
letter. Feyvush/Feivel is the most likely.

Michael Bernet, New York


Re: Is Stucines the town of Studenets, Belarus? #general

David Rubin
 

In a message dated 6/24/2009 5:52:09 AM Central Standard Time,
rcroudman@... writes:

Eva's brother Harry Stodsky gives his birthplace as Vilna (Vilnius).
I am not sure of which town Stucines is exactly.
Hello,

As we have mentioned before, if you can not find a town in
the Shtetl Seeker, you can search for it in the SIG databases.

We searched the Belarus database and found a record for a
Stuchin in Lido. And then the All Lithuania Database and
found a Stucina in Uezd Lida. So we brought up the
Shtetls Of Lithuania page at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Litvak/Shtetls/Lithuania.htm

and selected Uezd Lida, in Vilnius Gubernia.
And on the Lida Homepage we selected, towns, which
took us to

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lida-District/lida-towns.htm

One of the towns is Shtutchin also know as
Szczuczyn//Scucyn/Suicin/Shchuchin which is now in Belarus.

There is a link there to get information on this town.
including family/surname and other data.

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lida-District/szcz-area.htm

Possibly if you look through the information,
Stucina, Shtutchin might be the Stucines you are looking for.

Sincerely,
David Rubin and Mrs. Rubin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Is Stucines the town of Studenets, Belarus? #general

David Rubin
 

In a message dated 6/24/2009 5:52:09 AM Central Standard Time,
rcroudman@... writes:

Eva's brother Harry Stodsky gives his birthplace as Vilna (Vilnius).
I am not sure of which town Stucines is exactly.
Hello,

As we have mentioned before, if you can not find a town in
the Shtetl Seeker, you can search for it in the SIG databases.

We searched the Belarus database and found a record for a
Stuchin in Lido. And then the All Lithuania Database and
found a Stucina in Uezd Lida. So we brought up the
Shtetls Of Lithuania page at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Litvak/Shtetls/Lithuania.htm

and selected Uezd Lida, in Vilnius Gubernia.
And on the Lida Homepage we selected, towns, which
took us to

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lida-District/lida-towns.htm

One of the towns is Shtutchin also know as
Szczuczyn//Scucyn/Suicin/Shchuchin which is now in Belarus.

There is a link there to get information on this town.
including family/surname and other data.

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lida-District/szcz-area.htm

Possibly if you look through the information,
Stucina, Shtutchin might be the Stucines you are looking for.

Sincerely,
David Rubin and Mrs. Rubin


DATKIN Mystery #general

Robert L. Landau <bob@...>
 

I have encountered a bot of a mystery in researching
Abraham DATKIN. In all censuses his wife is shown as
Katy or Katie. On their daughter Matilda's marriage
record it shows her mother as Kate RUBIN. In Kate DATKIN's
Death Certificate it shows her father as David RUBIN and
mother unknown. So far, so good. In the 1900 US Census,
Abraham and Kate are shown as married for 2 years with
their daughter Tillie, thus estimating their marriage date
as 1898. I ordered the February 26, 1898 Marriage Record
for Abraham DATKIN. The bride's name is shown as Gittel
SCHILDKRAUT, with parents Siche SCHILDKRAUT and Scheindel
MOSSES. Although the name Gittel is often Americanized
as Katie, the mystery is how do I reconcile SCHILDKRAUT
to RUBIN?

Robert Landau
Blairstown, New Jersey


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen DATKIN Mystery #general

Robert L. Landau <bob@...>
 

I have encountered a bot of a mystery in researching
Abraham DATKIN. In all censuses his wife is shown as
Katy or Katie. On their daughter Matilda's marriage
record it shows her mother as Kate RUBIN. In Kate DATKIN's
Death Certificate it shows her father as David RUBIN and
mother unknown. So far, so good. In the 1900 US Census,
Abraham and Kate are shown as married for 2 years with
their daughter Tillie, thus estimating their marriage date
as 1898. I ordered the February 26, 1898 Marriage Record
for Abraham DATKIN. The bride's name is shown as Gittel
SCHILDKRAUT, with parents Siche SCHILDKRAUT and Scheindel
MOSSES. Although the name Gittel is often Americanized
as Katie, the mystery is how do I reconcile SCHILDKRAUT
to RUBIN?

Robert Landau
Blairstown, New Jersey


Commemoration re Litzmannstadt Ghetto end of August in Lodz #general

Roni S. Liebowitz
 

The 65th Anniversary of the Liquidation of the Litzmannstadt
Ghetto by German Authorities is being held in Lodz August
27-29. Read more about on the LARG Website at
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/lodz/LARG.htm
Click on the link on the home page for details and information
about registering. Once you register online, you will be able
to view the program that also includes events occurring prior
to Aug 27th.

If your family lived in nearby communities prior to the war,
it is very likely they were in the Lodz Ghetto during the
Holocaust. Jews were brought to the Lodz Ghetto >from all
over Poland and even other countries.

If you plan to attend, please consider writing your
impressions and/or taking photos for the Lodz/LARG websites.
Thanks.

I attended the 60th Commemoration which was very moving and
informative. If you plan to travel to Lodz sometime in the
future, consider going during this event.

Regards,
Roni

[Mrs. Roni Seibel Liebowitz]
New York
Lodz Archive Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing-Poland
(JRI-Poland) http://www.jri-poland.org
Lodz ShtetLinks
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/index.htm
Lodz Area Research Group (LARG)
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/LARG.htm
Belchatow ShtetLink
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/belchatow/
Belchatow Yizkor Book Project
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Belchatow/Belchatow.html
V.P. Programming, Jewish Genealogy Society-New York
http://www.jgsny.org/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Commemoration re Litzmannstadt Ghetto end of August in Lodz #general

Roni S. Liebowitz
 

The 65th Anniversary of the Liquidation of the Litzmannstadt
Ghetto by German Authorities is being held in Lodz August
27-29. Read more about on the LARG Website at
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/lodz/LARG.htm
Click on the link on the home page for details and information
about registering. Once you register online, you will be able
to view the program that also includes events occurring prior
to Aug 27th.

If your family lived in nearby communities prior to the war,
it is very likely they were in the Lodz Ghetto during the
Holocaust. Jews were brought to the Lodz Ghetto >from all
over Poland and even other countries.

If you plan to attend, please consider writing your
impressions and/or taking photos for the Lodz/LARG websites.
Thanks.

I attended the 60th Commemoration which was very moving and
informative. If you plan to travel to Lodz sometime in the
future, consider going during this event.

Regards,
Roni

[Mrs. Roni Seibel Liebowitz]
New York
Lodz Archive Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing-Poland
(JRI-Poland) http://www.jri-poland.org
Lodz ShtetLinks
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/index.htm
Lodz Area Research Group (LARG)
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/LARG.htm
Belchatow ShtetLink
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/belchatow/
Belchatow Yizkor Book Project
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Belchatow/Belchatow.html
V.P. Programming, Jewish Genealogy Society-New York
http://www.jgsny.org/


Re: Looking for Pictures of Monroe, Henry and Rutgers Streets NYC #general

hekenvin@...
 

Allan Karan wrote: "I spent Father's Day looking for the buildings
my Grandfather lived in and found all four places have been razed
for schools or housing projects. I am looking for pictures of 96 &
111 Monroe (1913), 287 Henry (1918) and 49 Rutgers (1902) Streets"

I have not lived in NYC for a while; but the NY Public Library
Genealogy Division at the 42nd Street branch used to have folders
of photographs of NYC, by street.

Helene Kenvin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Looking for Pictures of Monroe, Henry and Rutgers Streets NYC #general

hekenvin@...
 

Allan Karan wrote: "I spent Father's Day looking for the buildings
my Grandfather lived in and found all four places have been razed
for schools or housing projects. I am looking for pictures of 96 &
111 Monroe (1913), 287 Henry (1918) and 49 Rutgers (1902) Streets"

I have not lived in NYC for a while; but the NY Public Library
Genealogy Division at the 42nd Street branch used to have folders
of photographs of NYC, by street.

Helene Kenvin


Surename "PARNCZEWER" #general

Chayim Fried
 

I would like to know if anyone ever heard of a rabbi Moshe PARNCZEWER,
we have some records with this name, some researchers believe that
there is a small village near Lodz and Strykow, and he must probably
be the rabbi of that town. When doing a search in JewishGen index
of surnames, it does come up as a surname.
It might also be pronounced "Parnitchover"

Chayim Fried
NY USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Surename "PARNCZEWER" #general

Chayim Fried
 

I would like to know if anyone ever heard of a rabbi Moshe PARNCZEWER,
we have some records with this name, some researchers believe that
there is a small village near Lodz and Strykow, and he must probably
be the rabbi of that town. When doing a search in JewishGen index
of surnames, it does come up as a surname.
It might also be pronounced "Parnitchover"

Chayim Fried
NY USA


Polish Passport #general

Todd Lerner
 

I am looking for a photograph of my cousin's grandfather
who was killed in Auschwitz during the war.
Prior to the war, he went to Palestine only to return to Poland.
That means he must have had some passport for travel to/>from Poland.
Any one have any suggestions how to get a copy of a Polish
Passport >from before WWII.
You can respond directly to me at tlernerdds@...

Todd Lerner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Polish Passport #general

Todd Lerner
 

I am looking for a photograph of my cousin's grandfather
who was killed in Auschwitz during the war.
Prior to the war, he went to Palestine only to return to Poland.
That means he must have had some passport for travel to/>from Poland.
Any one have any suggestions how to get a copy of a Polish
Passport >from before WWII.
You can respond directly to me at tlernerdds@...

Todd Lerner


Locality for GOLDSMIT spelling #general

cecilia <myths@...>
 

In what European country would a surname spelt GOLDSMIT (exact
spelling) most likely occur?

Reason for question:
I have a 19C woman who died a spinster, having changed her surname
from Phillips to Goldsmit several years before her death, as she
explains in her will. The word and spelling Goldsmit occurs 3 times
in the will.

I cannot find her in the 1871 census of England and Wales, though I
can find her in London 1841, 1851, 1861 with her parents, and again in
1881 with her sister and brother-in-law. So I'm wondering whether she
was abroad in 1871 and whether the spelling of her adopted surname
gives a hint as to where.

Cecilia Nyleve


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Locality for GOLDSMIT spelling #general

cecilia <myths@...>
 

In what European country would a surname spelt GOLDSMIT (exact
spelling) most likely occur?

Reason for question:
I have a 19C woman who died a spinster, having changed her surname
from Phillips to Goldsmit several years before her death, as she
explains in her will. The word and spelling Goldsmit occurs 3 times
in the will.

I cannot find her in the 1871 census of England and Wales, though I
can find her in London 1841, 1851, 1861 with her parents, and again in
1881 with her sister and brother-in-law. So I'm wondering whether she
was abroad in 1871 and whether the spelling of her adopted surname
gives a hint as to where.

Cecilia Nyleve


Re: Naming patterns #general

Snillop47@...
 

Michael asked:
"...were children ever named after deceased relatives of the
opposite sex? .... Was anything like this done earlier in the
20th Century and before? Could my paternal grandfather, born
in 1898,have been named after his paternal grandmother?"

---

My maternal grandfather died young (aged 33) in 1895. His first
grandchild, my sister, was born in 1915 and was named Ruby Isobel,
obviously after him. The first grandson,my brother, was named
Robert Ivor, also after him.

Harold Pollins
Oxford, England.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Naming patterns #general

Snillop47@...
 

Michael asked:
"...were children ever named after deceased relatives of the
opposite sex? .... Was anything like this done earlier in the
20th Century and before? Could my paternal grandfather, born
in 1898,have been named after his paternal grandmother?"

---

My maternal grandfather died young (aged 33) in 1895. His first
grandchild, my sister, was born in 1915 and was named Ruby Isobel,
obviously after him. The first grandson,my brother, was named
Robert Ivor, also after him.

Harold Pollins
Oxford, England.