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FINE versus JAFFE #general

David Goldman
 

Hello, Jewishgenners.
I have found records >from Canada of my great-grandfather and his sister referring
to their mother as "Leah JAFFE," and another Canadian record of their other sister
referring to the mother as "L. PINE" back in Zembin, Minsk Gubernia.
Now is it conceivable that the two names were interchangeable, i.e. that
"PINE" is "FINE/FEIN" in Yiddish, and JAFFE meaning beautiful or fine in Hebrew?
If so, why and under what circumstances would these names be used
interchangeably for the same person in Russia??
Thanks,
David Goldman
NYC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen FINE versus JAFFE #general

David Goldman
 

Hello, Jewishgenners.
I have found records >from Canada of my great-grandfather and his sister referring
to their mother as "Leah JAFFE," and another Canadian record of their other sister
referring to the mother as "L. PINE" back in Zembin, Minsk Gubernia.
Now is it conceivable that the two names were interchangeable, i.e. that
"PINE" is "FINE/FEIN" in Yiddish, and JAFFE meaning beautiful or fine in Hebrew?
If so, why and under what circumstances would these names be used
interchangeably for the same person in Russia??
Thanks,
David Goldman
NYC


Re: Meaning of weil/desl #general

Corinna Woehrl
 

Hello Sandy and fellow JewishGenners,

In addition to weil as because:
In old registers or documents the acronym "weil." is often used for "weiland"
meaning formerly or deceased. Perhaps you could hand in the document via Viewmate
to enable the correct interpretation.

desl.:could it also be the abbreveation "desgl." for "desgleichen"meaning likewise?

Regards >from Germany
Corinna
Corinna Woehrl (nee Goslar) D-22955 Hoisdorf (Hamburg/Luebeck)

Weil means because in German. It could denote cause of death.
Maybe someone out there knows what weil/desl on a death certificate means.
He was killed in the Shoah His last name was WEIHL.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Meaning of weil/desl #general

Corinna Woehrl
 

Hello Sandy and fellow JewishGenners,

In addition to weil as because:
In old registers or documents the acronym "weil." is often used for "weiland"
meaning formerly or deceased. Perhaps you could hand in the document via Viewmate
to enable the correct interpretation.

desl.:could it also be the abbreveation "desgl." for "desgleichen"meaning likewise?

Regards >from Germany
Corinna
Corinna Woehrl (nee Goslar) D-22955 Hoisdorf (Hamburg/Luebeck)

Weil means because in German. It could denote cause of death.
Maybe someone out there knows what weil/desl on a death certificate means.
He was killed in the Shoah His last name was WEIHL.


JGS of Long Island Meeting #general

Jackie Wasserstein
 

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island's next meeting will be on Sunday,
February 24. Time: 2:00 PM
Place: Mid-Island Y JCC 45 Manetto Hill Road Plainview, New York www.miyjcc.org

Topic: A Look at New York Lost Synagogues

Speaker: Ellen Levitt

Ellen Levitt will take us on a visual tour of synagogues on the Lower East Side,
in the Bronx, in Brooklyn's Brownsville, East New York and Bedford Stuyvesant and
in other areas of New York City which once had large and thriving Jewish
Communities. She will discuss the shuls' architectual features, the demographics
of the communities they served and how the buildings are used today.

Veteran teacher Ellen is a lifelong resident of Brooklyn. She has been researching
and photographing former synagogues since 1999. She is the author of three books
about the Lost Synagogues of Manhattan, Bronx ,and Brooklyn as well as Walking
Manhattan and dozens of articles.

Our "Mavens" at 1:30 PM to take your genealogy questions.

Admission is free and all are welcome.

Jackie Wasserstein
Past President


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS of Long Island Meeting #general

Jackie Wasserstein
 

The Jewish Genealogy Society of Long Island's next meeting will be on Sunday,
February 24. Time: 2:00 PM
Place: Mid-Island Y JCC 45 Manetto Hill Road Plainview, New York www.miyjcc.org

Topic: A Look at New York Lost Synagogues

Speaker: Ellen Levitt

Ellen Levitt will take us on a visual tour of synagogues on the Lower East Side,
in the Bronx, in Brooklyn's Brownsville, East New York and Bedford Stuyvesant and
in other areas of New York City which once had large and thriving Jewish
Communities. She will discuss the shuls' architectual features, the demographics
of the communities they served and how the buildings are used today.

Veteran teacher Ellen is a lifelong resident of Brooklyn. She has been researching
and photographing former synagogues since 1999. She is the author of three books
about the Lost Synagogues of Manhattan, Bronx ,and Brooklyn as well as Walking
Manhattan and dozens of articles.

Our "Mavens" at 1:30 PM to take your genealogy questions.

Admission is free and all are welcome.

Jackie Wasserstein
Past President


Re: Origin of STURZA family name in Romania #romania

David Osachy <osachy@...>
 

Hello, I love your family legend, but it's very likely the origin of
this name among Jews has nothing to do with the castle or any noble
family. Sturz is the Romanian word for a thrush, a pretty bird that
has significance in traditional Romanian culture as a symbol of beauty
and love. Some Jewish families adopted Sturza (or related spellings)
as a poetic or ornamental surname. For this reason names derived from
birds were common among Jews in Europe generally.

Rabbi David Osachy
Jacksonville, Florida

On 2/7/19, Marina Smerling loraxina@...
<rom-sig@...> wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hello,

I have a question about the origin of Jewish surnames in Romania. My
grandfather's last name was Sturza (Sturdza prior to immigrating),
same as the royal Sturzda castle in Miclauseni, near Iasi. Our family
lore goes two ways:

1) Our ancestors worked for the royal Sturzda family palace as
teachers and "minor managers," and somehow came to adopt the royal
family's surname.

2) Our ancestors interrmarried with a member of the royal Sturzda
family (which I have since heard is unlikely)

Does anyone have a sense of the likelihood of either of these
possibilities for Jewish folk in Romania, or know how else a Jewish
STURZA could have come to be?

Many thanks for your time!

Marina Smerling
Gainesville, Florida
USA

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Romania SIG #Romania Re: Origin of STURZA family name in Romania #romania

David Osachy <osachy@...>
 

Hello, I love your family legend, but it's very likely the origin of
this name among Jews has nothing to do with the castle or any noble
family. Sturz is the Romanian word for a thrush, a pretty bird that
has significance in traditional Romanian culture as a symbol of beauty
and love. Some Jewish families adopted Sturza (or related spellings)
as a poetic or ornamental surname. For this reason names derived from
birds were common among Jews in Europe generally.

Rabbi David Osachy
Jacksonville, Florida

On 2/7/19, Marina Smerling loraxina@...
<rom-sig@...> wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hello,

I have a question about the origin of Jewish surnames in Romania. My
grandfather's last name was Sturza (Sturdza prior to immigrating),
same as the royal Sturzda castle in Miclauseni, near Iasi. Our family
lore goes two ways:

1) Our ancestors worked for the royal Sturzda family palace as
teachers and "minor managers," and somehow came to adopt the royal
family's surname.

2) Our ancestors interrmarried with a member of the royal Sturzda
family (which I have since heard is unlikely)

Does anyone have a sense of the likelihood of either of these
possibilities for Jewish folk in Romania, or know how else a Jewish
STURZA could have come to be?

Many thanks for your time!

Marina Smerling
Gainesville, Florida
USA

Visit the ROM-SIG home page at < http://www.jewishgen.org/romsig >.
Search for previous archived messages at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.isa?jg~jgsys~sigspop
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This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #general

Bruce Drake <BDrake@...>
 

Imagine being nine years old, and witnessing and enduring the horrors of the coming
Holocaust. Yehudit Przenica leaves nothing of that to the imagination in her
remembrance of the war's outbreak in "A Child on the Roads," >from the Yizkor book
of Nowy Dwor, Poland. She became breadwinner for her ailing family by begging for
food >from town to town, she watched as Germans dug ditches and buried Jews alive,
she was hidden by a priest who the Germans cruelly tortured to find out where she
was, and as soldiers searched for her with flashlights, she hid in a deep grave
where she "felt dead bodies under my feet" and worms and animals crawling over her.
But she survived those time to hand down to us her story.

URL: https://www.facebook.com/JewishGen.org/posts/2127223697299774?__tn__==3DK-R

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, MD

Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK
Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen This week's Yizkor book excerpt on the JewishGen Facebook page #general

Bruce Drake <BDrake@...>
 

Imagine being nine years old, and witnessing and enduring the horrors of the coming
Holocaust. Yehudit Przenica leaves nothing of that to the imagination in her
remembrance of the war's outbreak in "A Child on the Roads," >from the Yizkor book
of Nowy Dwor, Poland. She became breadwinner for her ailing family by begging for
food >from town to town, she watched as Germans dug ditches and buried Jews alive,
she was hidden by a priest who the Germans cruelly tortured to find out where she
was, and as soldiers searched for her with flashlights, she hid in a deep grave
where she "felt dead bodies under my feet" and worms and animals crawling over her.
But she survived those time to hand down to us her story.

URL: https://www.facebook.com/JewishGen.org/posts/2127223697299774?__tn__==3DK-R

Bruce Drake
Silver Spring, MD

Researching: DRACH, EBERT, KIMMEL, ZLOTNICK
Towns: Wojnilow, Kovel


IGRA Website-Updated Resource Guide-The Holocaust in France #general

Elena Bazes
 

The updated version of "The Holocaust in France: A Resource Guide" by
Jean-Pierre Stroweis is now available on the IGRA website.

Jean-Pierre Stroweis has updated an amazing compilation of references
to the Holocaust in France. Some materials are in French, others in
English some are in both. There are links to websites as well as
references to books. In addition to background, descriptions and explanations
there are lists of names with information regarding those people.

If you are researching this time period in France these are important
resources for you to explore, and for all of us a reference to help us
grasp the enormity of this time in our history.

To view the Guide, go to

http://genealogy.org.il/holocaust-france-resource-guide/

On a regular basis we add to our resource collection. All of our resources are
connected to genealogy, but not all are connected directly to genealogy in Israel.
In the Resources Section you can find materials to help you with research in many
regions of the world, including Israel.

To view other resources, go to:
https://genealogy.org.il/resources/

Elena Biegel Bazes
IGRA Publicity Chair


Origin of STURZA family name in Romania #romania

loraxina@...
 

Hello,

I have a question about the origin of Jewish surnames in Romania. My
grandfather's last name was Sturza (Sturdza prior to immigrating),
same as the royal Sturzda castle in Miclauseni, near Iasi. Our family
lore goes two ways:

1) Our ancestors worked for the royal Sturzda family palace as
teachers and "minor managers," and somehow came to adopt the royal
family's surname.

2) Our ancestors interrmarried with a member of the royal Sturzda
family (which I have since heard is unlikely)

Does anyone have a sense of the likelihood of either of these
possibilities for Jewish folk in Romania, or know how else a Jewish
STURZA could have come to be?

Many thanks for your time!

Marina Smerling
Gainesville, Florida
USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen IGRA Website-Updated Resource Guide-The Holocaust in France #general

Elena Bazes
 

The updated version of "The Holocaust in France: A Resource Guide" by
Jean-Pierre Stroweis is now available on the IGRA website.

Jean-Pierre Stroweis has updated an amazing compilation of references
to the Holocaust in France. Some materials are in French, others in
English some are in both. There are links to websites as well as
references to books. In addition to background, descriptions and explanations
there are lists of names with information regarding those people.

If you are researching this time period in France these are important
resources for you to explore, and for all of us a reference to help us
grasp the enormity of this time in our history.

To view the Guide, go to

http://genealogy.org.il/holocaust-france-resource-guide/

On a regular basis we add to our resource collection. All of our resources are
connected to genealogy, but not all are connected directly to genealogy in Israel.
In the Resources Section you can find materials to help you with research in many
regions of the world, including Israel.

To view other resources, go to:
https://genealogy.org.il/resources/

Elena Biegel Bazes
IGRA Publicity Chair


Romania SIG #Romania Origin of STURZA family name in Romania #romania

loraxina@...
 

Hello,

I have a question about the origin of Jewish surnames in Romania. My
grandfather's last name was Sturza (Sturdza prior to immigrating),
same as the royal Sturzda castle in Miclauseni, near Iasi. Our family
lore goes two ways:

1) Our ancestors worked for the royal Sturzda family palace as
teachers and "minor managers," and somehow came to adopt the royal
family's surname.

2) Our ancestors interrmarried with a member of the royal Sturzda
family (which I have since heard is unlikely)

Does anyone have a sense of the likelihood of either of these
possibilities for Jewish folk in Romania, or know how else a Jewish
STURZA could have come to be?

Many thanks for your time!

Marina Smerling
Gainesville, Florida
USA


Re: Meaning of weil/desl #general

Carole Shaw
 

Weil means because in German. It could denote cause of death.

Desl could be an abbreviation. It may be mistaken spelling of dgl such like,
similar.

Carole Shaw


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Meaning of weil/desl #general

Carole Shaw
 

Weil means because in German. It could denote cause of death.

Desl could be an abbreviation. It may be mistaken spelling of dgl such like,
similar.

Carole Shaw


RootsTech Free Live Streaming Announced #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Not everyone can attend RootsTech and they provide a selection of sessions
free on their live stream. Starting February 27 at 9:30 Mountain Standard
Time through Saturday March 2 . General sessions featuring keynote speakers
will also be streamed. Some of the programs being streamed include Diahan
Southard on DNA , Crista Cowan on Ancestry, Blaine Bettinger on DNA, My
Heritage's Super Search and more. To view the sessions that will be live
streamed go to:

https://www.rootstech.org/salt-lake/live-stream-schedule

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RootsTech Free Live Streaming Announced #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Not everyone can attend RootsTech and they provide a selection of sessions
free on their live stream. Starting February 27 at 9:30 Mountain Standard
Time through Saturday March 2 . General sessions featuring keynote speakers
will also be streamed. Some of the programs being streamed include Diahan
Southard on DNA , Crista Cowan on Ancestry, Blaine Bettinger on DNA, My
Heritage's Super Search and more. To view the sessions that will be live
streamed go to:

https://www.rootstech.org/salt-lake/live-stream-schedule

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Carnegie Hall "Migrations- The Making of America citywide festival with some on line content #general

John Paul Lowens <jplowens@...>
 

In today's mail I received the printed version of this festival
announcement that's also available on line.
https://www.carnegiehall.org/Events/Season-Highlights/Migrations

The event's co-sponsored by the NY G&B. Included, starting February 26th, is
"Stories >from the Archives: Jewish Immigration to America" an on-line series
presented by YIVO.

View Festival Highlights Press Release http://tinyurl.com/y83khygx
View Festival Brochure http://tinyurl.com/y7xxnlqk

John Paul Lowens, Suburban NYC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Carnegie Hall "Migrations- The Making of America citywide festival with some on line content #general

John Paul Lowens <jplowens@...>
 

In today's mail I received the printed version of this festival
announcement that's also available on line.
https://www.carnegiehall.org/Events/Season-Highlights/Migrations

The event's co-sponsored by the NY G&B. Included, starting February 26th, is
"Stories >from the Archives: Jewish Immigration to America" an on-line series
presented by YIVO.

View Festival Highlights Press Release http://tinyurl.com/y83khygx
View Festival Brochure http://tinyurl.com/y7xxnlqk

John Paul Lowens, Suburban NYC