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EPSTEIN Y-DNA Surname Project Update #germany

Itzhak Epstein
 

As many EPSTEIN researchers know, there is a Family Tree DNA --
JewishGen EPSTEIN surname project. Painless mouth swab genetic
testing procedures are being used as a promising tool for breaking
through our genealogical brick walls. I am writing to report to the
researchers of German Jewry about our progress and to further expand
our circle of participants. While the EPSTEIN family originated in
Germany, there are hardly any German Jews among our project's participants.

We are working on identifying the various branches of our principal
cluster, identifying additional members of our minor clusters, and on
connecting our members to cousins. To accomplish this goal and to
create as broad a search as possible, we need more male EPSTEINs to
contribute a cheek swab as a DNA sample. If you are female or an
EPSTEIN through female ancestors, a sample >from an EPSTEIN male
relative can represent your family in the test. If you are not an
EPSTEIN please share this post with male EPSTEINs who may want to
participate in this project.

To join the EPSTEIN surname project through JewishGen, go to
<file:///http://www.jewishgen.org/dna/genbygen.html>http://www.jewishgen.org/dna/genbygen.html
, find the EPSTEIN surname and click on it. The prices that you see
are discounted in two ways. First, as a member of a project you pay
less than people who join individually. In addition, there is a
summer discount for all projects' members that was extended until the
end of September. In addition, FTDNA shares with JewishGen part of
what each customer who joins through JewishGen pays.

Of our 38 tested project members, a principal cluster of 15 members,
almost all of whom are previously strangers to each other, seem to be
related to each other. These members are very probably descended
from the historic EPSTEINs of the late 14th century in
**** Frankfurt am Main. ****
Four of the 15 cannot identify any EPSTEIN ancestry but are
included because of their uniquely close genetic relationship to us.
Seven pairs of project members may also be mutually related. The
other nine members are unrelated to any other current EPSTEIN surname
project member. In addition, most members are closely related to men
whose surnames are other than EPSTEIN.

Our tentative conclusion is that about half of the EPSTEINs'
ancestors chose the surname when the authorities mandated Jews to do
so early in the 19th century. There are also families that are
either related to the historic EPSTEINs >from before the original
surname's origination in **** Frankfurt **** or are EPSTEINs who chose a
different surname at a later date.

As for the historic EPSTEINs' ancient origins, our haplogroup's
short name is R-U152/S28. In plainer English this means that our
ancient origins are probably in the Alps and not in the Levant.

For more information about our project, go to
<file:///http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Epstein>http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Epstein

Itzhak Epstein New York, NY <mailto:iegen@earthlink.net>


German SIG #Germany EPSTEIN Y-DNA Surname Project Update #germany

Itzhak Epstein
 

As many EPSTEIN researchers know, there is a Family Tree DNA --
JewishGen EPSTEIN surname project. Painless mouth swab genetic
testing procedures are being used as a promising tool for breaking
through our genealogical brick walls. I am writing to report to the
researchers of German Jewry about our progress and to further expand
our circle of participants. While the EPSTEIN family originated in
Germany, there are hardly any German Jews among our project's participants.

We are working on identifying the various branches of our principal
cluster, identifying additional members of our minor clusters, and on
connecting our members to cousins. To accomplish this goal and to
create as broad a search as possible, we need more male EPSTEINs to
contribute a cheek swab as a DNA sample. If you are female or an
EPSTEIN through female ancestors, a sample >from an EPSTEIN male
relative can represent your family in the test. If you are not an
EPSTEIN please share this post with male EPSTEINs who may want to
participate in this project.

To join the EPSTEIN surname project through JewishGen, go to
<file:///http://www.jewishgen.org/dna/genbygen.html>http://www.jewishgen.org/dna/genbygen.html
, find the EPSTEIN surname and click on it. The prices that you see
are discounted in two ways. First, as a member of a project you pay
less than people who join individually. In addition, there is a
summer discount for all projects' members that was extended until the
end of September. In addition, FTDNA shares with JewishGen part of
what each customer who joins through JewishGen pays.

Of our 38 tested project members, a principal cluster of 15 members,
almost all of whom are previously strangers to each other, seem to be
related to each other. These members are very probably descended
from the historic EPSTEINs of the late 14th century in
**** Frankfurt am Main. ****
Four of the 15 cannot identify any EPSTEIN ancestry but are
included because of their uniquely close genetic relationship to us.
Seven pairs of project members may also be mutually related. The
other nine members are unrelated to any other current EPSTEIN surname
project member. In addition, most members are closely related to men
whose surnames are other than EPSTEIN.

Our tentative conclusion is that about half of the EPSTEINs'
ancestors chose the surname when the authorities mandated Jews to do
so early in the 19th century. There are also families that are
either related to the historic EPSTEINs >from before the original
surname's origination in **** Frankfurt **** or are EPSTEINs who chose a
different surname at a later date.

As for the historic EPSTEINs' ancient origins, our haplogroup's
short name is R-U152/S28. In plainer English this means that our
ancient origins are probably in the Alps and not in the Levant.

For more information about our project, go to
<file:///http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Epstein>http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Epstein

Itzhak Epstein New York, NY <mailto:iegen@earthlink.net>


Re: Hungarian Jewish Cemeteries #hungary

peter bakos <pgbakos@...>
 

What happens when you don't read your newsletters for some weeks is you get=
the end of the story! Now I understand we are talking about Hungarian Jew=
ish Cemeteries in the U.S. So please disregard my previous.

Sorry

Peter Bakos
Budapest


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: Hungarian Jewish Cemeteries #hungary

peter bakos <pgbakos@...>
 

What happens when you don't read your newsletters for some weeks is you get=
the end of the story! Now I understand we are talking about Hungarian Jew=
ish Cemeteries in the U.S. So please disregard my previous.

Sorry

Peter Bakos
Budapest


Re: Jewish Cemeteries Website #hungary

peter bakos <pgbakos@...>
 

I don't get it. I looked at this website and it says nothing about
Hungarian Jewish Cemeteries (unless that information is hidden and I would have to=
join in order to look at it?).

There are free databases of Hungarian Jewish Cemeteries where that is all
they do including Oroklet.

Peter Bakos
Budapest


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: Jewish Cemeteries Website #hungary

peter bakos <pgbakos@...>
 

I don't get it. I looked at this website and it says nothing about
Hungarian Jewish Cemeteries (unless that information is hidden and I would have to=
join in order to look at it?).

There are free databases of Hungarian Jewish Cemeteries where that is all
they do including Oroklet.

Peter Bakos
Budapest


Photos_from_Lackenbach_-_help_to_identify #hungary

Yohanan
 

Dear SIG members,

I wish to identify people in photos that were taken in Lackenbach,
Burgenland, Austria during the 1930s.

There are family photos, school photos and a few photos near Lackenbach
Synagogue.

Unfortunately, no family member >from Lackenbach is still alive to identify
them.

If you know of anyone >from Lackenbach that might be able to help,

please contact me at: loeflery@netspace.net.au



Yohanan Loeffler

Melbourne Australia


Hungary SIG #Hungary Photos_from_Lackenbach_-_help_to_identify #hungary

Yohanan
 

Dear SIG members,

I wish to identify people in photos that were taken in Lackenbach,
Burgenland, Austria during the 1930s.

There are family photos, school photos and a few photos near Lackenbach
Synagogue.

Unfortunately, no family member >from Lackenbach is still alive to identify
them.

If you know of anyone >from Lackenbach that might be able to help,

please contact me at: loeflery@netspace.net.au



Yohanan Loeffler

Melbourne Australia


Town of Moinesti and General Romanian Research Questions #romania

Linda Shefler
 

My Romanian research skills are slim to nil; until just recently my
father-in-law has not been particularly interested in learning about his
family so I didn't pursue it. The genealogy gods work in mysterious ways
though; a few weeks ago he asked me to please find out about his family and
just the other day, in a medical clinic of all places, I ran into a
SCHEFLER. And what a surprise, the family also originated in Moinesti!!!

I have not had much success researching my FIL's family. The Tabele
Barbatilor - Census of Jewish Men in Romania, 1942 does list a Shloime
SEFFLER in Moinesti and Sloime-Shlomo-Solomon is a common name in both our
family and the other SCHEFLER family, but neither family can claim the
individual listed.

Here is the limited information that I know about my SCHEFLER family:

Solomon SCHEFLER was married to Sofia OFFMAN.
They had three sons and a daughter: Jacob Iancu (born in Pascani in 1893),
Moshe (Moritz) and Ze'ev (Lupo). Daughter's name is unknown but she married
a man named KAUSHANSKY.
Jacob Iancu married Leia KURZBERG in 1921 in Rasca.

There is a family connection to the Israeli artist Reuven ZELICOVICI>RUBIN
which I am still trying to discover. Reuven's mother was SCHECHTER. I
found that interesting because I thought it's a rather small
"misinterpretation" (as in sloppy handwriting) to go >from SCHECHTER to
SCHEFLER. I just now found a 1994 posting in the Archives regarding a woman
from Moinesti named SCHECHTER whose son, when he arrived in America, took
the name SCHEFFLER!!

Here is the limited information about the other SCHEFLER family:

They were >from Gazeria which is 2 miles >from Moinesti.
Yaacov SCHEFLER (+/-1885-1972) was the son of Matatyahu.
He was married first to Bruna Unknown who died in 1920. They had the
following children: Shlomo, Schelly, Maier, Fanny and Haim (born 1916).
He then married Sprintza Unknown with whom he had two daughters.

Yaacov had brothers who did not go by the name SCHEFLER. It is unknown why
or what names they went by. It is not know if Yaacov's father was SCHEFLER,
or if perhaps it was his mother.

My first question is, does anything here sound familiar to anyone?
Next I would like to get some suggestions as to how to proceed besides
contacting the person who sent in the SCHECTER-SCHEFFLER >from Moinesti post
in 1994? Is anyone aware of records >from Moinesti or Gazeria?

Any suggestions as to how to proceed would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you very much in advance and Shabbat shalom to all.

Linda Silverman Shefler
Formerly of Cary, NC
Presently living in Moshav Mishmeret
linda.shefler@gmail.com


Romania SIG #Romania Town of Moinesti and General Romanian Research Questions #romania

Linda Shefler
 

My Romanian research skills are slim to nil; until just recently my
father-in-law has not been particularly interested in learning about his
family so I didn't pursue it. The genealogy gods work in mysterious ways
though; a few weeks ago he asked me to please find out about his family and
just the other day, in a medical clinic of all places, I ran into a
SCHEFLER. And what a surprise, the family also originated in Moinesti!!!

I have not had much success researching my FIL's family. The Tabele
Barbatilor - Census of Jewish Men in Romania, 1942 does list a Shloime
SEFFLER in Moinesti and Sloime-Shlomo-Solomon is a common name in both our
family and the other SCHEFLER family, but neither family can claim the
individual listed.

Here is the limited information that I know about my SCHEFLER family:

Solomon SCHEFLER was married to Sofia OFFMAN.
They had three sons and a daughter: Jacob Iancu (born in Pascani in 1893),
Moshe (Moritz) and Ze'ev (Lupo). Daughter's name is unknown but she married
a man named KAUSHANSKY.
Jacob Iancu married Leia KURZBERG in 1921 in Rasca.

There is a family connection to the Israeli artist Reuven ZELICOVICI>RUBIN
which I am still trying to discover. Reuven's mother was SCHECHTER. I
found that interesting because I thought it's a rather small
"misinterpretation" (as in sloppy handwriting) to go >from SCHECHTER to
SCHEFLER. I just now found a 1994 posting in the Archives regarding a woman
from Moinesti named SCHECHTER whose son, when he arrived in America, took
the name SCHEFFLER!!

Here is the limited information about the other SCHEFLER family:

They were >from Gazeria which is 2 miles >from Moinesti.
Yaacov SCHEFLER (+/-1885-1972) was the son of Matatyahu.
He was married first to Bruna Unknown who died in 1920. They had the
following children: Shlomo, Schelly, Maier, Fanny and Haim (born 1916).
He then married Sprintza Unknown with whom he had two daughters.

Yaacov had brothers who did not go by the name SCHEFLER. It is unknown why
or what names they went by. It is not know if Yaacov's father was SCHEFLER,
or if perhaps it was his mother.

My first question is, does anything here sound familiar to anyone?
Next I would like to get some suggestions as to how to proceed besides
contacting the person who sent in the SCHECTER-SCHEFFLER >from Moinesti post
in 1994? Is anyone aware of records >from Moinesti or Gazeria?

Any suggestions as to how to proceed would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you very much in advance and Shabbat shalom to all.

Linda Silverman Shefler
Formerly of Cary, NC
Presently living in Moshav Mishmeret
linda.shefler@gmail.com


NY deaths - Jacob Brill 1865-1870 #general

Nancy Hauser <Nancy@...>
 

Sorry -

Does anyone know of a free site that has NYC deaths >from 1865 - 1870?

My 3rd g-grandfather, Jacob Brill, was discharged >from a "Central
Park" Hospital (wounded in the Civil War) in Jan. 1865 and his widow
was alone in the 1870 census. They lived in Brooklyn. He didn't
apply (nor did his widow) for a pension. I can only imagine that
she didn't know about her benefits, probably because she didn't speak
enough English.

Oddly, her death cert. doesn't say where she (they) were buried.

Any suggestions before I have to pay for a 6 year search for a
death certificate?

Thanks!

Nancy Hauser


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NY deaths - Jacob Brill 1865-1870 #general

Nancy Hauser <Nancy@...>
 

Sorry -

Does anyone know of a free site that has NYC deaths >from 1865 - 1870?

My 3rd g-grandfather, Jacob Brill, was discharged >from a "Central
Park" Hospital (wounded in the Civil War) in Jan. 1865 and his widow
was alone in the 1870 census. They lived in Brooklyn. He didn't
apply (nor did his widow) for a pension. I can only imagine that
she didn't know about her benefits, probably because she didn't speak
enough English.

Oddly, her death cert. doesn't say where she (they) were buried.

Any suggestions before I have to pay for a 6 year search for a
death certificate?

Thanks!

Nancy Hauser


What was the W. F. S. Committee? #general

Stein Lewis
 

My late father-in-law, Emmanuel Alexander Parker, kept a diary on a
sometime basis >from his days at King's College, London in 1911 to I'm
not quite sure when. One of his entries is a list of the members of
the W. F. S. Committee together with the names and addresses of most
of the members. For the most part the names appear to be Jewish. If it
is permitted, I will list the names and addresses which may be of
interest to some of you. Does the W.F. S. Committee ring a bell with
anyone. There is no date associated with the list, so I can't tell
when it existed.

Incidentally A. E. Parker taught science and mathematics at the Jews
Free School and his father was a publican on Artillery Street,
Whitechapel.

Lewis Stein
Boynton Beach, FL


Jewish records of Siret #romania

Yossi Yagur <yagury@...>
 

Shalom,

In search for Jewish Birth-Marriage-Death of Radautz, I've found a statement
that before 1857 these records were conducted in Siret.
Can anyone help with information about the current location of the books of
Siret of that period?
It seems that they are neither in Siret archive, nor in Suceava.

Yosef Yagur

Petah-Tiqwa, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen What was the W. F. S. Committee? #general

Stein Lewis
 

My late father-in-law, Emmanuel Alexander Parker, kept a diary on a
sometime basis >from his days at King's College, London in 1911 to I'm
not quite sure when. One of his entries is a list of the members of
the W. F. S. Committee together with the names and addresses of most
of the members. For the most part the names appear to be Jewish. If it
is permitted, I will list the names and addresses which may be of
interest to some of you. Does the W.F. S. Committee ring a bell with
anyone. There is no date associated with the list, so I can't tell
when it existed.

Incidentally A. E. Parker taught science and mathematics at the Jews
Free School and his father was a publican on Artillery Street,
Whitechapel.

Lewis Stein
Boynton Beach, FL


Romania SIG #Romania Jewish records of Siret #romania

Yossi Yagur <yagury@...>
 

Shalom,

In search for Jewish Birth-Marriage-Death of Radautz, I've found a statement
that before 1857 these records were conducted in Siret.
Can anyone help with information about the current location of the books of
Siret of that period?
It seems that they are neither in Siret archive, nor in Suceava.

Yosef Yagur

Petah-Tiqwa, Israel


Two brothers with the same given name #lithuania

Danielle Weiner <lovemom51@...>
 

I recently pulled up a revision list that contains possible family members
and noticed something curious. Two sons of the head of household had the
same given name. The first was born around 1832 or 1834 and his given name
was Shevel. The second was born around 1840 and his given name was Shevel
Iosel. The first son was listed as 24 years old at the time of this
revision list (1858) so he, obviously, was around at the time of the
second son's birth. They are both listed as having the same father.
Can anyone explain this? Could this be a 'blended' family resulting >from
previous marriages of both parents or is there something about Jewish
child-naming traditions I have missed?

Danielle Weiner
Searching for VAYNEROVICH (Vilna, Butrimonys), GELER (Vilna, Rudamina),
SCHULOWSKI (Vilna)


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Two brothers with the same given name #lithuania

Danielle Weiner <lovemom51@...>
 

I recently pulled up a revision list that contains possible family members
and noticed something curious. Two sons of the head of household had the
same given name. The first was born around 1832 or 1834 and his given name
was Shevel. The second was born around 1840 and his given name was Shevel
Iosel. The first son was listed as 24 years old at the time of this
revision list (1858) so he, obviously, was around at the time of the
second son's birth. They are both listed as having the same father.
Can anyone explain this? Could this be a 'blended' family resulting >from
previous marriages of both parents or is there something about Jewish
child-naming traditions I have missed?

Danielle Weiner
Searching for VAYNEROVICH (Vilna, Butrimonys), GELER (Vilna, Rudamina),
SCHULOWSKI (Vilna)


LitvakSIG Message Archives #lithuania

Jackye Sullins <jsullins@...>
 

Is there an archive of messages posted to this list? I missed the beginning
of the Kovno records thread and would like to see it.

Jackye Sullins
Carlsbad, CA

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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania LitvakSIG Message Archives #lithuania

Jackye Sullins <jsullins@...>
 

Is there an archive of messages posted to this list? I missed the beginning
of the Kovno records thread and would like to see it.

Jackye Sullins
Carlsbad, CA

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