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Bialystok ghetto memoir to be published in English #poland

Gary Mokotoff: <mokotoff@...>
 

A man named Rafael Rayzner, one of the survivors of the Bialystok ghetto,
wrote a Holocaust memoir in 1946 in Yiddish. There are now plans to publish
it in English in April. The complete story can be found at
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23335333-5012694,00.html.

Gary Mokotoff


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Bialystok ghetto memoir to be published in English #poland

Gary Mokotoff: <mokotoff@...>
 

A man named Rafael Rayzner, one of the survivors of the Bialystok ghetto,
wrote a Holocaust memoir in 1946 in Yiddish. There are now plans to publish
it in English in April. The complete story can be found at
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23335333-5012694,00.html.

Gary Mokotoff


Help on tombstone translation #general

Gilberto <maianoa1@...>
 

When translating a tomb stone >from a German cemetery I
came across with the following that I am in doubt
about the exact translation:

* The death date is tav-tav-haf-dalet (400-400-20-4)

* Before the deceased name and his father's name there
is the addition reich-bet-nun-alef

Thanks for your help,

Gilberto Jugend (maianoa1@yahoo.com)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help on tombstone translation #general

Gilberto <maianoa1@...>
 

When translating a tomb stone >from a German cemetery I
came across with the following that I am in doubt
about the exact translation:

* The death date is tav-tav-haf-dalet (400-400-20-4)

* Before the deceased name and his father's name there
is the addition reich-bet-nun-alef

Thanks for your help,

Gilberto Jugend (maianoa1@yahoo.com)


Re: Re-Marriage within 6 months #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 3/10/2008 9:04:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
aajacobus@btinternet.com writes:
<< My zeide a very observant man married his 3 rd wife within 6 months
of his 2nd wife death - in a civil marriage . They were both passed
childbearing age and no small children. I can find no Beth Din authorisation
I understand this is contary to Shulchan Aurach but not Halacha
- Can someone explain >>

==I will not discuss halakhic issues, in large part because I don't see any
such issue. But there are non-halakhik points that a genealogist might want
to consider or investigate.

==It was a civil marriage. He didn't need Beth Din approval. As
far as the Beth Din are concerned, the couple were not married.

==I assume there was an advantage in having a civil wedding. Perhaps one or
the other benefited >from the other's pension, one needed the other's assistance
in life, one was able to join the other in subsidized housing, or any other
example of the adage "two can live as cheap as one." Or poerhaps they had the
hots for each other.

==Do you think he should have waited a year of mourning before remarrying?
Doesn't apply: mourning for a spouse is only thirty days. It is quite possible
that your gf eventually straightened out this marriage later, with an official
ceremony under a licensed rabbi, or "off the books" with an unlicensed rabbi or
even with just a friend officiating.

Michael Bernet, New York
mbernet@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Re-Marriage within 6 months #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 3/10/2008 9:04:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
aajacobus@btinternet.com writes:
<< My zeide a very observant man married his 3 rd wife within 6 months
of his 2nd wife death - in a civil marriage . They were both passed
childbearing age and no small children. I can find no Beth Din authorisation
I understand this is contary to Shulchan Aurach but not Halacha
- Can someone explain >>

==I will not discuss halakhic issues, in large part because I don't see any
such issue. But there are non-halakhik points that a genealogist might want
to consider or investigate.

==It was a civil marriage. He didn't need Beth Din approval. As
far as the Beth Din are concerned, the couple were not married.

==I assume there was an advantage in having a civil wedding. Perhaps one or
the other benefited >from the other's pension, one needed the other's assistance
in life, one was able to join the other in subsidized housing, or any other
example of the adage "two can live as cheap as one." Or poerhaps they had the
hots for each other.

==Do you think he should have waited a year of mourning before remarrying?
Doesn't apply: mourning for a spouse is only thirty days. It is quite possible
that your gf eventually straightened out this marriage later, with an official
ceremony under a licensed rabbi, or "off the books" with an unlicensed rabbi or
even with just a friend officiating.

Michael Bernet, New York
mbernet@aol.com


Polish Translation #general

Ben Knobel <joinus@...>
 

Hi is there anyone that could help me with a few Polish transalations?
The documents are >from the Mormon microfilms of Krakow.
Iwould really appreciate it.
Ben Knobel
researching ALTER in Krakow and Nowy Wisnicz

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Polish Translation #general

Ben Knobel <joinus@...>
 

Hi is there anyone that could help me with a few Polish transalations?
The documents are >from the Mormon microfilms of Krakow.
Iwould really appreciate it.
Ben Knobel
researching ALTER in Krakow and Nowy Wisnicz

MODERATOR NOTE: JewishGen's ViewMate service provides a free way to make
genealogically-related images available online. See <www.jewishgen.org/viewmate>.


Tailor Trade in Vienna #general

Nancy Fox <jessefox7@...>
 

Renee wrote: "my great grandfather was sent to Vienna, Austria to be
trained as a tailor. Does anyone know of any such school in the 1870-80s?"
I found this subject fascinating and began researching it online.

With the major fashion changes of 1880, especially the adoption of men's
ready-to-wear clothes (Konfektion) by women (e.g. suits with skirts), and
since Vienna was becoming the fashion center of the Austro-Hungarian Empire,
expert tailors were needed to fill the demands of Viennese couturiers.

Master tailors were considered artisans and had a master tailor's guild
(Zuenfte). There may be information on this at the Viennese
Stadt-und-Landesarchiv.

The 3 stages of a tailor progressed >from apprentice (Lehrlinge) to
journeyman (Geselle) to master (Meister) tailor.

Though the following information is a later era than Renee is searching, the
Wiener Werkstaette (Viennese Workshops), founded in 1903 (closed by 1932)
designed and created fabrics and fashion products (including haute
couture?). The Viennese fashion industry of the 1930's included Jewish
designers.

There is an article on the Jewish Federation of Santa Barbara website
(www.jewishsantabarbara.org) regarding Rudolf Herllinger, b. 1913 in Tanta,
Egypt, migrated in 1914 to Boscovice, Czech., who mentions the "famous
tailor trade school in Vienna" as follows:

"...I decided to become a master tailor. After three years of
apprenticeship at a good custom tailor and working one year as a journeyman,
I attended the famous tailor trade school in Vienna to qualify as a master
tailor to be able to join the tailors' guild."

Regards,
Nancy Fox
Franklin, Tennessee
jessefox7@bellsouth.net
Searching: SILBERSPITZ, ZIMMERSPITZ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tailor Trade in Vienna #general

Nancy Fox <jessefox7@...>
 

Renee wrote: "my great grandfather was sent to Vienna, Austria to be
trained as a tailor. Does anyone know of any such school in the 1870-80s?"
I found this subject fascinating and began researching it online.

With the major fashion changes of 1880, especially the adoption of men's
ready-to-wear clothes (Konfektion) by women (e.g. suits with skirts), and
since Vienna was becoming the fashion center of the Austro-Hungarian Empire,
expert tailors were needed to fill the demands of Viennese couturiers.

Master tailors were considered artisans and had a master tailor's guild
(Zuenfte). There may be information on this at the Viennese
Stadt-und-Landesarchiv.

The 3 stages of a tailor progressed >from apprentice (Lehrlinge) to
journeyman (Geselle) to master (Meister) tailor.

Though the following information is a later era than Renee is searching, the
Wiener Werkstaette (Viennese Workshops), founded in 1903 (closed by 1932)
designed and created fabrics and fashion products (including haute
couture?). The Viennese fashion industry of the 1930's included Jewish
designers.

There is an article on the Jewish Federation of Santa Barbara website
(www.jewishsantabarbara.org) regarding Rudolf Herllinger, b. 1913 in Tanta,
Egypt, migrated in 1914 to Boscovice, Czech., who mentions the "famous
tailor trade school in Vienna" as follows:

"...I decided to become a master tailor. After three years of
apprenticeship at a good custom tailor and working one year as a journeyman,
I attended the famous tailor trade school in Vienna to qualify as a master
tailor to be able to join the tailors' guild."

Regards,
Nancy Fox
Franklin, Tennessee
jessefox7@bellsouth.net
Searching: SILBERSPITZ, ZIMMERSPITZ


Need Picture of Kozma cemetery Grave #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

If anyone is planning to visit Kozma cemetery in the near future I
would appreciate a picture of a grave that may be where my great-uncle

is buried. The Oroklet.hu website lists a burial for Neumann Markus

who died in 1912. Location of grave is reported as:

Kozma utca - Budapest
36. Plot 45. Row 7 . grave

My great-uncle Markus Neumann was born 20 Aug 1883 and died 3 Dec
1912. I don't know if he lived in Budapest but have a picture of him

taken in a Budapest photo studio in the early 1900's.

I've requested info >from the website on the cost of a picture but
haven't yet had a response.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
vkahn@kmort.com
http://web.mac.com/lmort/Vivian_Kahn_Family_Website/Home_Page.html

Researching families >from Hungary including:

BAL/BERKOVICS/BERKOWITZ/ROTH/GROSZ Orasu Nou, Rom. (Avas Ujvaros,
Hung.); Seini, Rom. (Szinervaralja, Hun), Vamfalu, Hung. (Vama, Rom.)
KAHAN/SEGAL/ZEGAL/Sighet, Rom.(Maramarossziget, Hun)
MOSKOVITS/MOSKOWITZ/MOSS, Ostrov (Kisozstro), Sobrance, Michalovce,
Cleveland
NEUMANN/POLACSEK/Sobrance, Michalovce, Kereszt (Kristy, Slov.)


Hungary SIG #Hungary Need Picture of Kozma cemetery Grave #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

If anyone is planning to visit Kozma cemetery in the near future I
would appreciate a picture of a grave that may be where my great-uncle

is buried. The Oroklet.hu website lists a burial for Neumann Markus

who died in 1912. Location of grave is reported as:

Kozma utca - Budapest
36. Plot 45. Row 7 . grave

My great-uncle Markus Neumann was born 20 Aug 1883 and died 3 Dec
1912. I don't know if he lived in Budapest but have a picture of him

taken in a Budapest photo studio in the early 1900's.

I've requested info >from the website on the cost of a picture but
haven't yet had a response.

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
vkahn@kmort.com
http://web.mac.com/lmort/Vivian_Kahn_Family_Website/Home_Page.html

Researching families >from Hungary including:

BAL/BERKOVICS/BERKOWITZ/ROTH/GROSZ Orasu Nou, Rom. (Avas Ujvaros,
Hung.); Seini, Rom. (Szinervaralja, Hun), Vamfalu, Hung. (Vama, Rom.)
KAHAN/SEGAL/ZEGAL/Sighet, Rom.(Maramarossziget, Hun)
MOSKOVITS/MOSKOWITZ/MOSS, Ostrov (Kisozstro), Sobrance, Michalovce,
Cleveland
NEUMANN/POLACSEK/Sobrance, Michalovce, Kereszt (Kristy, Slov.)


Re: Lists and Miskolc #hungary

tom
 

one of the drawbacks of the "hungarian jewish survivors listed in a=
hungarian periodical" list seems to be that married women are listed in the=
customary hungarian fashion as "wife of" and their husband's name, but the=
transcription includes neither their given nor maiden names.

once again, it helps to experiment a bit with the search function: there are=
116 hits for exactly ROSENBERG, but none of them have a given name of=
ilona. however, there are only 4 records for PINTER, including one for=
"PINTE'R, Dr. Be'lane', born 1898, place of birth not specified, located=
Tr=F6bitz, page 17", which might be the one, if you know her husband's name=
=2E


=2E...... tom klein, toronto

peter bakos <pgbakos@hotmail.com> wrote:


This will be difficult, as I wish to keep within the maxim of Tom Venetiane=
=3D
r and his website to never "flame" any person or place, but...

I thank Gabor Hirsch for pointing out the problems of the "list >from a publ=
=3D
ication". I actually was shown this publication, at Sip u. of all places. =
=3D
Therein I found Ilona ROSENBERG PINTER, the aunt of my mother as being a s=
=3D
urvivor. (I have yet to find out what happened to that poor woman who lost=
=3D
both of her sons and her son-in-law in the Labor battalions and at the cam=
=3D
ps). As I only had a fleeting look at that book, I hoped to see it or the =
=3D
information online. But I guess that whatever has been completely transcri=
=3D
bed either did not include my grand-aunt, or she somehow was not put on the=
=3D
JG website.

[snip!]

Peter Bakos
Budapest
PODVINECZ >from Budapest, Nagy Becskerek, Novi Sad/Ujvidek, Vukovar, Modos, =
=3D
Baja
ROSENBERG/RACZ/RONAI, HERSCHKOVITS, MOSKOVITS, FISCH/FRISCH >from Abauj-Torn=
=3D
a megye
PEABODY/PATZAUER >from Miskolc and Szeged
SCHUSTER/SCHUSZTER >from Papa and Gyor


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: RE: Lists and Miskolc #hungary

tom
 

one of the drawbacks of the "hungarian jewish survivors listed in a=
hungarian periodical" list seems to be that married women are listed in the=
customary hungarian fashion as "wife of" and their husband's name, but the=
transcription includes neither their given nor maiden names.

once again, it helps to experiment a bit with the search function: there are=
116 hits for exactly ROSENBERG, but none of them have a given name of=
ilona. however, there are only 4 records for PINTER, including one for=
"PINTE'R, Dr. Be'lane', born 1898, place of birth not specified, located=
Tr=F6bitz, page 17", which might be the one, if you know her husband's name=
=2E


=2E...... tom klein, toronto

peter bakos <pgbakos@hotmail.com> wrote:


This will be difficult, as I wish to keep within the maxim of Tom Venetiane=
=3D
r and his website to never "flame" any person or place, but...

I thank Gabor Hirsch for pointing out the problems of the "list >from a publ=
=3D
ication". I actually was shown this publication, at Sip u. of all places. =
=3D
Therein I found Ilona ROSENBERG PINTER, the aunt of my mother as being a s=
=3D
urvivor. (I have yet to find out what happened to that poor woman who lost=
=3D
both of her sons and her son-in-law in the Labor battalions and at the cam=
=3D
ps). As I only had a fleeting look at that book, I hoped to see it or the =
=3D
information online. But I guess that whatever has been completely transcri=
=3D
bed either did not include my grand-aunt, or she somehow was not put on the=
=3D
JG website.

[snip!]

Peter Bakos
Budapest
PODVINECZ >from Budapest, Nagy Becskerek, Novi Sad/Ujvidek, Vukovar, Modos, =
=3D
Baja
ROSENBERG/RACZ/RONAI, HERSCHKOVITS, MOSKOVITS, FISCH/FRISCH >from Abauj-Torn=
=3D
a megye
PEABODY/PATZAUER >from Miskolc and Szeged
SCHUSTER/SCHUSZTER >from Papa and Gyor


RUBENSTEIN/LEVINE #general

Sy Pearlman
 

I am looking for grandchildren of RUBENSTEIN and Zysha LEVINE of New
York. Zysha emigrated >from Uzda in Belarus. The couple had several
children, Jack Rubenstein (who was in textiles and moved his factory
to the Carolinas), Harry, Dina (who married a ZALENKO or SILVER).
Zysha and her husband may have died in the late 1930's or early 40's.
Sy Pearlman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RUBENSTEIN/LEVINE #general

Sy Pearlman
 

I am looking for grandchildren of RUBENSTEIN and Zysha LEVINE of New
York. Zysha emigrated >from Uzda in Belarus. The couple had several
children, Jack Rubenstein (who was in textiles and moved his factory
to the Carolinas), Harry, Dina (who married a ZALENKO or SILVER).
Zysha and her husband may have died in the late 1930's or early 40's.
Sy Pearlman


Margolis Family in Israel #general

Michael Trapunsky
 

Hi Genners,

I am looking for MARGOLIS cousins of mine in Israel but unfortunately have
almost next to nothing to go on - not even a city.

All I know is that my great great grandfather's sister - Sarah Zisel MATUK -
married a man by the name of Meir MARGOLIS. I believe they had 3 children
(all born in Lithuania in the late 1800s to early 1900s):

Avraham Yonah
Rachel
Yakov

Yakov had a son named Yisroel who went to live in Israel. All I know about
him is that he's a rabbi and has a number of children (once again, I know
this isn't a lot to go on).

If anyone knows anything of this family, or can give me any suggestions on
how to further research them, I would love to hear back >from you.

Thank you very much,

Michael Trapunsky
Long Island, New York, USA
trapunsky@verizon.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Margolis Family in Israel #general

Michael Trapunsky
 

Hi Genners,

I am looking for MARGOLIS cousins of mine in Israel but unfortunately have
almost next to nothing to go on - not even a city.

All I know is that my great great grandfather's sister - Sarah Zisel MATUK -
married a man by the name of Meir MARGOLIS. I believe they had 3 children
(all born in Lithuania in the late 1800s to early 1900s):

Avraham Yonah
Rachel
Yakov

Yakov had a son named Yisroel who went to live in Israel. All I know about
him is that he's a rabbi and has a number of children (once again, I know
this isn't a lot to go on).

If anyone knows anything of this family, or can give me any suggestions on
how to further research them, I would love to hear back >from you.

Thank you very much,

Michael Trapunsky
Long Island, New York, USA
trapunsky@verizon.net


Occupation: Anstreichmeister #austria-czech

robert fraser <robertandginafraser@...>
 

Hi all -

A quick question. What is the translation of the occupation

'Maler und Anstreichmeister'

The first of course is Painter, but I'm not sure of the second.
Plasterer, perhaps?

The time is 1915, the place is Mistelbach.

Many thanks and please respond off-list.

Robert Fraser
Western Australia
robertandginafraser@iinet.net.au
Researching:
NOWAK - Moravia/Austria
EISINGER - Moravia and the World
FINKELSTEIN - Galicia
NAGEL - Moravia/Austria
KRAUTERBLUTH - ? Galicia
WORTMAN(N) - Skalica SK


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Occupation: Anstreichmeister #austria-czech

robert fraser <robertandginafraser@...>
 

Hi all -

A quick question. What is the translation of the occupation

'Maler und Anstreichmeister'

The first of course is Painter, but I'm not sure of the second.
Plasterer, perhaps?

The time is 1915, the place is Mistelbach.

Many thanks and please respond off-list.

Robert Fraser
Western Australia
robertandginafraser@iinet.net.au
Researching:
NOWAK - Moravia/Austria
EISINGER - Moravia and the World
FINKELSTEIN - Galicia
NAGEL - Moravia/Austria
KRAUTERBLUTH - ? Galicia
WORTMAN(N) - Skalica SK