The next program of the JGS-Montreal: Monday, June 03, 2019
#general
Merle Kastner <merlebk18@...>
The JGS of Montreal,
in association with the Jewish Public Library, presents: Ralph Salinger "A Project to Remember our Ancestors: Vilkaviskis, Lithuania - Then and Now" The meeting will be held on Monday, June 03, 2019 at 7:30 pm Gelber Conference Centre 5151 Cote Ste-Catherine/1 Carre Cummings For all information on our upcoming meetings & Sunday Morning Family Tree Workshops - call the JGS of Montreal Hotline - 24 hours a day: 514-484-0969 Please visit the JGS of Montreal website: http://jgs-montreal.org/ and follow us in Facebook Merle Kastner JGS of Montreal, Programming
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The next program of the JGS-Montreal: Monday, June 03, 2019
#general
Merle Kastner <merlebk18@...>
The JGS of Montreal,
in association with the Jewish Public Library, presents: Ralph Salinger "A Project to Remember our Ancestors: Vilkaviskis, Lithuania - Then and Now" The meeting will be held on Monday, June 03, 2019 at 7:30 pm Gelber Conference Centre 5151 Cote Ste-Catherine/1 Carre Cummings For all information on our upcoming meetings & Sunday Morning Family Tree Workshops - call the JGS of Montreal Hotline - 24 hours a day: 514-484-0969 Please visit the JGS of Montreal website: http://jgs-montreal.org/ and follow us in Facebook Merle Kastner JGS of Montreal, Programming
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Suggestions/help regarding BELL (BELINKY) family in Chicago
#general
Trudy Barch
Hi,
Ben BELL was born March 5, 1880 in Russia. He was naturalized May 4, 1923 in Chicago, Illinois as Boroch Belinky. The naturalization document (online) says port of arrival July 16, 1908 **No** port name. The 1920 Chicago census says Ben, his wife Ida J., and son were born in Russia. The other children were born in Illinois. This Ida died in 1923 in Chicago. In 1925 Ben married Ida B. who had children >from her previous marriage - all born in Chicago. The 1930 Chicago census says Robert was born in Illinois as does all other documents. As an adult Robert applied for a birth certificate stating that he was born in Chicago. Question 1 - Did Ben immigrate with his wife and son? My guess yes. Question 2 - Where can I find an immigration record for Ben, wife Ida J and son Robert? Question 3 - where can I find a marriage record for Ben and Ida J.? I believe they married in Russia before coming to America. Not in Chicago. Question 4 - where can I find birth and immigration information on Robert? My guess he was born in late 1907 or early 1908 in Russia. Emigrated as an infant causing the confusion where he was officially born. Your assistance where I could look further would be greatly appreciated. I use FamilySearch.org for my research. I have all the Chicago research and documentation. Thank you to everyone who can guide me further. This has been my 'brick wall' for years. Trudy Barch currently Florida previously Chicago
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Suggestions/help regarding BELL (BELINKY) family in Chicago
#general
Trudy Barch
Hi,
Ben BELL was born March 5, 1880 in Russia. He was naturalized May 4, 1923 in Chicago, Illinois as Boroch Belinky. The naturalization document (online) says port of arrival July 16, 1908 **No** port name. The 1920 Chicago census says Ben, his wife Ida J., and son were born in Russia. The other children were born in Illinois. This Ida died in 1923 in Chicago. In 1925 Ben married Ida B. who had children >from her previous marriage - all born in Chicago. The 1930 Chicago census says Robert was born in Illinois as does all other documents. As an adult Robert applied for a birth certificate stating that he was born in Chicago. Question 1 - Did Ben immigrate with his wife and son? My guess yes. Question 2 - Where can I find an immigration record for Ben, wife Ida J and son Robert? Question 3 - where can I find a marriage record for Ben and Ida J.? I believe they married in Russia before coming to America. Not in Chicago. Question 4 - where can I find birth and immigration information on Robert? My guess he was born in late 1907 or early 1908 in Russia. Emigrated as an infant causing the confusion where he was officially born. Your assistance where I could look further would be greatly appreciated. I use FamilySearch.org for my research. I have all the Chicago research and documentation. Thank you to everyone who can guide me further. This has been my 'brick wall' for years. Trudy Barch currently Florida previously Chicago
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LIST OF FORCED LABOUR CAMPS
#hungary
jm22853@...
Hello All,
does anyone know if and where there are lists concerning: FORCED LABOUR CAMPS DATES PLACES >from WHERE CONSCRIPTED NAMES OF CONSRIPTED DESTINATION OF WHERE LABOUR WAS DONE- SPECIFICALLY I AM INTERESTED IN IPOLSKI SAHI, SLOVAAKIA Anything at all where to start looking. Many thanks, Jacob Michel NATANYA, ISRAEL Moderator: Ipolske Siahy or Sahe is a place in Nitra region of Slovakia near the Hungarian border. Place name in Hungarian was Ipolysag. You can probably find more information at Yad Vashem and the US Holocaust Memorial Museum, both of which have extensive resources on-line. Memorial Museum
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Hungary SIG #Hungary LIST OF FORCED LABOUR CAMPS
#hungary
jm22853@...
Hello All,
does anyone know if and where there are lists concerning: FORCED LABOUR CAMPS DATES PLACES >from WHERE CONSCRIPTED NAMES OF CONSRIPTED DESTINATION OF WHERE LABOUR WAS DONE- SPECIFICALLY I AM INTERESTED IN IPOLSKI SAHI, SLOVAAKIA Anything at all where to start looking. Many thanks, Jacob Michel NATANYA, ISRAEL Moderator: Ipolske Siahy or Sahe is a place in Nitra region of Slovakia near the Hungarian border. Place name in Hungarian was Ipolysag. You can probably find more information at Yad Vashem and the US Holocaust Memorial Museum, both of which have extensive resources on-line. Memorial Museum
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(European Union) European Jewish Cemeteries Initiative Launches New Website With Surveys of 1500 Jewish Cemeteries
#hungary
Jan Meisels Allen
The European Jewish Cemeteries Initiative (ESJF) has launched its new
website funded by the European Union. It has mapped 1500 cemeteries in 5 countries: Greece, Lithuania, Moldova, Slovakia and the Ukraine. See: https://www.myheritage.com/research/category-3030/military-documents. The open access data base include all the surveys being done in 2019-2020 may be accessed at: https://www.esjf-surveys.org/surveys/ As each cemetery is completed and processed aerial photographs, historical data and geographical data will be uploaded to the website. This is a work in progress. As previously reported, the European Union provided 800,000 Euros for the project. The ESJF started work in 2015 by surveying and fencing Jewish cemeteries to protect them >from destruction. With the EU grant, it has expanded its mission using drone technology and historical research to map the 1500 Jewish cemetery sites in the 5 aforementioned countries. TO read more about the ESJF see: https://www.esjf-surveys.org/about-us/ Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Hungary SIG #Hungary (European Union) European Jewish Cemeteries Initiative Launches New Website With Surveys of 1500 Jewish Cemeteries
#hungary
Jan Meisels Allen
The European Jewish Cemeteries Initiative (ESJF) has launched its new
website funded by the European Union. It has mapped 1500 cemeteries in 5 countries: Greece, Lithuania, Moldova, Slovakia and the Ukraine. See: https://www.myheritage.com/research/category-3030/military-documents. The open access data base include all the surveys being done in 2019-2020 may be accessed at: https://www.esjf-surveys.org/surveys/ As each cemetery is completed and processed aerial photographs, historical data and geographical data will be uploaded to the website. This is a work in progress. As previously reported, the European Union provided 800,000 Euros for the project. The ESJF started work in 2015 by surveying and fencing Jewish cemeteries to protect them >from destruction. With the EU grant, it has expanded its mission using drone technology and historical research to map the 1500 Jewish cemetery sites in the 5 aforementioned countries. TO read more about the ESJF see: https://www.esjf-surveys.org/about-us/ Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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(European Union) European Jewish Cemeteries Initiative Launches New Website With Surveys of 1500 Jewish Cemeteries
#lithuania
Jan Meisels Allen
The European Jewish Cemeteries Initiative (ESJF) has launched its new
website funded by the European Union. It has mapped 1500 cemeteries in 5 countries: Greece, Lithuania, Moldova, Slovakia and the Ukraine. See: https://www.myheritage.com/research/category-3030/military-documents. The open access data base include all the surveys being done in 2019-2020 may be accessed at: https://www.esjf-surveys.org/surveys/ As each cemetery is completed and processed aerial photographs, historical data and geographical data will be uploaded to the website. This is a work in progress. As previously reported, the European Union provided 800,000 Euros for the project. The ESJF started work in 2015 by surveying and fencing Jewish cemeteries to protect them >from destruction. With the EU grant, it has expanded its mission using drone technology and historical research to map the 1500 Jewish cemetery sites in the 5 aforementioned countries. TO read more about the ESJF see: https://www.esjf-surveys.org/about-us/ Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania (European Union) European Jewish Cemeteries Initiative Launches New Website With Surveys of 1500 Jewish Cemeteries
#lithuania
Jan Meisels Allen
The European Jewish Cemeteries Initiative (ESJF) has launched its new
website funded by the European Union. It has mapped 1500 cemeteries in 5 countries: Greece, Lithuania, Moldova, Slovakia and the Ukraine. See: https://www.myheritage.com/research/category-3030/military-documents. The open access data base include all the surveys being done in 2019-2020 may be accessed at: https://www.esjf-surveys.org/surveys/ As each cemetery is completed and processed aerial photographs, historical data and geographical data will be uploaded to the website. This is a work in progress. As previously reported, the European Union provided 800,000 Euros for the project. The ESJF started work in 2015 by surveying and fencing Jewish cemeteries to protect them >from destruction. With the EU grant, it has expanded its mission using drone technology and historical research to map the 1500 Jewish cemetery sites in the 5 aforementioned countries. TO read more about the ESJF see: https://www.esjf-surveys.org/about-us/ Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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The next program of the JGS-Montreal: Monday, June 03, 2019
#lithuania
Merle Kastner <merlebk18@...>
The JGS of Montreal,
in association with the Jewish Public Library, presents Ralph Salinger "A Project to Remember our Ancestors: Vilkaviskis, Lithuania - Then and Now" The meeting will be held on Monday, June 03, 2019 at 7:30 pm Gelber Conference Centre 5151 Cote Ste-Catherine/1 Carre Cummings For all information on our upcoming meetings & Sunday Morning Family Tree Workshops - call the JGS of Montreal Hotline - 24 hours a day: 514-484-0969 Please visit the JGS of Montreal website: http://jgs-montreal.org/ and follow us in Facebook Merle Kastner JGS of Montreal, Programming ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania The next program of the JGS-Montreal: Monday, June 03, 2019
#lithuania
Merle Kastner <merlebk18@...>
The JGS of Montreal,
in association with the Jewish Public Library, presents Ralph Salinger "A Project to Remember our Ancestors: Vilkaviskis, Lithuania - Then and Now" The meeting will be held on Monday, June 03, 2019 at 7:30 pm Gelber Conference Centre 5151 Cote Ste-Catherine/1 Carre Cummings For all information on our upcoming meetings & Sunday Morning Family Tree Workshops - call the JGS of Montreal Hotline - 24 hours a day: 514-484-0969 Please visit the JGS of Montreal website: http://jgs-montreal.org/ and follow us in Facebook Merle Kastner JGS of Montreal, Programming ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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MyHeritage Free Access to Military Records May 22 to May 28
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
MyHeritage is making their 47 million military records available for free
from May 22 to May 28 11:59 Central Time. The offer is good worldwide. Goto: https://www.myheritage.com/research/category-3030/military-documents There is no requirement to register nor any credit card information requested. However, if you try to access the featured collection after the May 28 date, or try to look at records not included in the featured collection you will be invited to subscribe. Note: I tried to find records on two of my relatives who served in World War ll. Neither had any hits. When I tried the surname Goldberg, one of my relative's names, what came up were registers not actual military records specific to the person I am researching. If you do not get any hits for the people you are researching, please understand it depends on what records are included in the 47 million military records, and do not write back to me about you're not finding your relatives' records. Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen MyHeritage Free Access to Military Records May 22 to May 28
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
MyHeritage is making their 47 million military records available for free
from May 22 to May 28 11:59 Central Time. The offer is good worldwide. Goto: https://www.myheritage.com/research/category-3030/military-documents There is no requirement to register nor any credit card information requested. However, if you try to access the featured collection after the May 28 date, or try to look at records not included in the featured collection you will be invited to subscribe. Note: I tried to find records on two of my relatives who served in World War ll. Neither had any hits. When I tried the surname Goldberg, one of my relative's names, what came up were registers not actual military records specific to the person I am researching. If you do not get any hits for the people you are researching, please understand it depends on what records are included in the 47 million military records, and do not write back to me about you're not finding your relatives' records. Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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(European Union) European Jewish Cemeteries Initiative Launches New Website With Surveys of 1500 Jewish Cemeteries
#ukraine
Jan Meisels Allen
The European Jewish Cemeteries Initiative (ESJF) has launched its new
website funded by the European Union. It has mapped 1500 cemeteries in 5 countries: Greece, Lithuania, Moldova, Slovakia and the Ukraine. See: https://www.myheritage.com/research/category-3030/military-documents. The open access data base include all the surveys being done in 2019-2020 may be accessed at: https://www.esjf-surveys.org/surveys/ As each cemetery is completed and processed aerial photographs, historical data and geographical data will be uploaded to the website. This is a work in progress. As previously reported, the European Union provided 800,000 Euros for the project. The ESJF started work in 2015 by surveying and fencing Jewish cemeteries to protect them >from destruction. With the EU grant, it has expanded its mission using drone technology and historical research to map the 1500 Jewish cemetery sites in the 5 aforementioned countries. TO read more about the ESJF see: https://www.esjf-surveys.org/about-us/ Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine (European Union) European Jewish Cemeteries Initiative Launches New Website With Surveys of 1500 Jewish Cemeteries
#ukraine
Jan Meisels Allen
The European Jewish Cemeteries Initiative (ESJF) has launched its new
website funded by the European Union. It has mapped 1500 cemeteries in 5 countries: Greece, Lithuania, Moldova, Slovakia and the Ukraine. See: https://www.myheritage.com/research/category-3030/military-documents. The open access data base include all the surveys being done in 2019-2020 may be accessed at: https://www.esjf-surveys.org/surveys/ As each cemetery is completed and processed aerial photographs, historical data and geographical data will be uploaded to the website. This is a work in progress. As previously reported, the European Union provided 800,000 Euros for the project. The ESJF started work in 2015 by surveying and fencing Jewish cemeteries to protect them >from destruction. With the EU grant, it has expanded its mission using drone technology and historical research to map the 1500 Jewish cemetery sites in the 5 aforementioned countries. TO read more about the ESJF see: https://www.esjf-surveys.org/about-us/ Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Re: Grandfather from Wangerin / Wegorzyno
#germany
Peter Lobbenberg
Dear Dieter
For working purposes let's assume: (a) that your grandfather actually lived in Wangerin, rather than e.g. in a neighbouring village or just passing through; and (b) that he was himself Jewish, as distinct >from merely working for a Jewish employer. With that caveat, and while I don't have specific answers for you, I think we can considerably narrow down the field. In Zur Erinnerung und zum Gedenken: die einstigen juedischen Gemeinden Pommerns, written and published privately by Gerhard Salinger 2006, there is a specific section on the Jews of Wangerin at pages 844 to 847. To quote: "Im Jahre 1907 bestand der Vorstand aus Hermann GOTTSCHALK, Philipp PHILIPPSOHN und M. DOBRIN. 1911 wird nur noch eine Seelenzahl von 25 genannt, davon waren 10 Steuerzahler. Der damalige letzte Lehrer FRANZUS unterrichtete bloss noch drei Kinder." Also: "Bis 1933 wohnten noch die folgenden juedischen Familien in Wangerin: Georg MANNHEIM, Kohlen- und Getreidegeschaeft, Langestr. 18; Philipp PHILIPPSOHN, Rentier, Langestr. 16; Ruben WALTER, Textilgeschaeft, Langestr. 20; Willi WORECZEK, Textilgeschaeft, Langestr. 74." In the circumstances your grandfather's surname would most likely have been one of the seven mentioned above. If you can trace living descendants of any of those families, you may be able to achieve more through DNA matching. Good luck, Peter Lobbenberg, London, England Dieter Schimmelpfennig wrote: My grandmother Elfriede Ida Mathilde WUTZKE was born in 1893 as the daughter of an evangelical-lutheran family in Wangerin, Kreis ( County ) Regenwalde, Pomerania / today Wegorzyno, Poland. In 1912 she worked for the family of a Jewish salesman ( names unknown ) in Wangerin and became pregnant. My father Harry Otto WUTZKE was born in 1913 not as usual in those days at home or in the nearest hospital, but in a special hospital in Stettin, the capital of Pomerania. In 1920 she married Erich SCHIMMELPFENNIG, a bookprinter in the city of Schivelbein / today Swidwin, Poland. He did not adopt my father but Erich SCHIMMELPFENNIG suddenly was the owner of a house and a shop in the mains treet of Schivelbein. It was said "they bought Harry Otto a father". In those days that was not unusual. My father studied in Stettin. Than he went to Elbing / today Elblag, Poland to learn to work as a teacher. In 1933 he should work as a teacher for the first time. But now, because of the Nazis, he had to confirm that he was "of german blood". So Erich SCHIMMELPFENNIG declared in 1933, that he is "the real father" of Harry Otto and his son is "of german blood". That is not really possible, because Erich S. was 15 years old, when my father was born. Some years later my father had to become a soldier. When he came back in 1948 >from a Russian POW-Camp, the family was expelled >from Pomerania and his mother and some other members of the family had died. Erich S. was married again. During the next years my father tried to find out the name of his real father. He knew that his father was Jewish. The persons who knew something about his father are either dead or not willing to talk about it. I tried several years to find something about my grandfather without any success. Last year I made 3 DNA-Testings ( myheritage, ancestry and familytreedna ) and found out that I have between 20 % and 25 % ( differences between the providers ) ashkenazy DNA. That is the point where I am. I have no idea what to do next.
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German SIG #Germany Re: Grandfather from Wangerin / Wegorzyno
#germany
Peter Lobbenberg
Dear Dieter
For working purposes let's assume: (a) that your grandfather actually lived in Wangerin, rather than e.g. in a neighbouring village or just passing through; and (b) that he was himself Jewish, as distinct >from merely working for a Jewish employer. With that caveat, and while I don't have specific answers for you, I think we can considerably narrow down the field. In Zur Erinnerung und zum Gedenken: die einstigen juedischen Gemeinden Pommerns, written and published privately by Gerhard Salinger 2006, there is a specific section on the Jews of Wangerin at pages 844 to 847. To quote: "Im Jahre 1907 bestand der Vorstand aus Hermann GOTTSCHALK, Philipp PHILIPPSOHN und M. DOBRIN. 1911 wird nur noch eine Seelenzahl von 25 genannt, davon waren 10 Steuerzahler. Der damalige letzte Lehrer FRANZUS unterrichtete bloss noch drei Kinder." Also: "Bis 1933 wohnten noch die folgenden juedischen Familien in Wangerin: Georg MANNHEIM, Kohlen- und Getreidegeschaeft, Langestr. 18; Philipp PHILIPPSOHN, Rentier, Langestr. 16; Ruben WALTER, Textilgeschaeft, Langestr. 20; Willi WORECZEK, Textilgeschaeft, Langestr. 74." In the circumstances your grandfather's surname would most likely have been one of the seven mentioned above. If you can trace living descendants of any of those families, you may be able to achieve more through DNA matching. Good luck, Peter Lobbenberg, London, England Dieter Schimmelpfennig wrote: My grandmother Elfriede Ida Mathilde WUTZKE was born in 1893 as the daughter of an evangelical-lutheran family in Wangerin, Kreis ( County ) Regenwalde, Pomerania / today Wegorzyno, Poland. In 1912 she worked for the family of a Jewish salesman ( names unknown ) in Wangerin and became pregnant. My father Harry Otto WUTZKE was born in 1913 not as usual in those days at home or in the nearest hospital, but in a special hospital in Stettin, the capital of Pomerania. In 1920 she married Erich SCHIMMELPFENNIG, a bookprinter in the city of Schivelbein / today Swidwin, Poland. He did not adopt my father but Erich SCHIMMELPFENNIG suddenly was the owner of a house and a shop in the mains treet of Schivelbein. It was said "they bought Harry Otto a father". In those days that was not unusual. My father studied in Stettin. Than he went to Elbing / today Elblag, Poland to learn to work as a teacher. In 1933 he should work as a teacher for the first time. But now, because of the Nazis, he had to confirm that he was "of german blood". So Erich SCHIMMELPFENNIG declared in 1933, that he is "the real father" of Harry Otto and his son is "of german blood". That is not really possible, because Erich S. was 15 years old, when my father was born. Some years later my father had to become a soldier. When he came back in 1948 >from a Russian POW-Camp, the family was expelled >from Pomerania and his mother and some other members of the family had died. Erich S. was married again. During the next years my father tried to find out the name of his real father. He knew that his father was Jewish. The persons who knew something about his father are either dead or not willing to talk about it. I tried several years to find something about my grandfather without any success. Last year I made 3 DNA-Testings ( myheritage, ancestry and familytreedna ) and found out that I have between 20 % and 25 % ( differences between the providers ) ashkenazy DNA. That is the point where I am. I have no idea what to do next.
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Jonas/Yonah STEINBERGER - Austria/Hungary
#general
Dovie Gelerinter
So, I just unlocked another half level of finding names going back by
finding my great-grandfather's death certificate which had his father's name on it - Jonas Steinberger. This sort of jives with an older reference I had (non-official) that his name was Yonah. I know my great-grandfather was born in 1877, to give a point of reference. Unfortunately, I don't really know much more about this branch of the tree. Thus, I've been trying to find any records and connections going back up this line. However, I'm unsure of where I can go to search any records of Austria-Hungary to try to learn more. I'm used to searching Polish records and using JRI-Poland, but the relevant link on the SIGs page doesn't seem to have that functionality. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. -Dovie Gelerinter
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jonas/Yonah STEINBERGER - Austria/Hungary
#general
Dovie Gelerinter
So, I just unlocked another half level of finding names going back by
finding my great-grandfather's death certificate which had his father's name on it - Jonas Steinberger. This sort of jives with an older reference I had (non-official) that his name was Yonah. I know my great-grandfather was born in 1877, to give a point of reference. Unfortunately, I don't really know much more about this branch of the tree. Thus, I've been trying to find any records and connections going back up this line. However, I'm unsure of where I can go to search any records of Austria-Hungary to try to learn more. I'm used to searching Polish records and using JRI-Poland, but the relevant link on the SIGs page doesn't seem to have that functionality. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. -Dovie Gelerinter
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