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Re: Israelite, Levi or Kohen #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 4/2/2008 9:30:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
_vkahn@kmort.com_ (mailto:vkahn@kmort.com) writes:
<< Don't believe everything you read--even if it's written in stone! My
paternal grandmother's headstone identifies her as Chana bas Mordche
haLevi and my mother assured me that information was correct. When I
went to Slovakia and found my great-grandfather's grave in Michalovce
I was rather surprised to see that his own matzeva doesn't identify
him as a Levite and the nearby grave of his son Armin, my great-uncle,
doesn't say that he was a Levite either.

<< It appears that both of my parents, including my father, who I'm sure
provided the information for his mother's headstone, made a mistake.
My paternal grandfather was a Levite as the headstone on his grave in
Michalovce confirmed. My parents' ketubah also correctly identifies
my father and his father as Levites. It appears that my parents, who
definitely should have known better, just confused the paternal
grandfathers. >>

==Absolutely true. A woman does not become a Kohen by marrying a
Kohen, nor a Levite by marrying a Levi. And most certainly, a male does
not inherit his status through his mother, despite such claims
occasionally voiced here.

If you think that the rule discriminates against women, you may be right.
Thirty-five centuries ago, however, when the duties for the
Israelites in the desert were being divvied up, it was women's
task to collect Manna and swarms of birds for food, keep the
family's Egyptian-procured clothing relatively clean and mended
for forty years of wandering, and take care of the new generations
that were to capture and occupy the Holy Land.

The men were segregated into fighting units to defend them all,
and transport units to carry their baggage. The Levites carried the
Sacred Tent of Assembly, its golden candelabrum and altars and
other appurtenances. assembled the structures, disassembled the
structures, served as choristers, teachers, scribes, and cleaners,
and the Kohanim slaughtered the animals and burned them as
sacrifices.

What can I explain? I guess it was a preindustrial society.
Daughters and wives of Kohanim and Leviim do still today acquire
a little of the limited privileges still accrued by their menfolk,
amounting to a soupcon of reverence and saving them >from
making a pidyon haben ceremony for a first-born son.

So, once again: the status of Kohen or Levi is transmitted only
from father to son, not >from a mother, not >from a spouse.
Knowing that the family is in either line is valuable to Jewish
genners. If you have a family of Stettelman known to be Kohanim,
you can search out all the STETTELMANs in the world and
safely delete >from consideration all those known not to have been
Kohanim.

A Kohen's legacy is broken if he marries a divorcee or a non-Jew
(even a convert) and he reverts to the status of Israelite. He will not
be referred too as Kohen on his tombstone. I don't believe a Levi's
line is terminated under such circumstances.

Michael Bernet, New York
mbernet@aol.com


Re: Susan King leaving JewishGen #france

jeremy frankel
 

The Board and many members, past and present, of the San Francisco
Bay Area JGS send their thanks, and warm wishes for her future
endeavors to Susan King. With her vision and dreams she has created
a legacy that she can be proud of ! Her inspiration has helped to
open the doors for all of us, all over the world, to our family
histories and roots. A priceless gift!

With our deep gratitude,
Jeremy Frankel
President, SFBAJGS


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Israelite, Levi or Kohen #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 4/2/2008 9:30:16 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
_vkahn@kmort.com_ (mailto:vkahn@kmort.com) writes:
<< Don't believe everything you read--even if it's written in stone! My
paternal grandmother's headstone identifies her as Chana bas Mordche
haLevi and my mother assured me that information was correct. When I
went to Slovakia and found my great-grandfather's grave in Michalovce
I was rather surprised to see that his own matzeva doesn't identify
him as a Levite and the nearby grave of his son Armin, my great-uncle,
doesn't say that he was a Levite either.

<< It appears that both of my parents, including my father, who I'm sure
provided the information for his mother's headstone, made a mistake.
My paternal grandfather was a Levite as the headstone on his grave in
Michalovce confirmed. My parents' ketubah also correctly identifies
my father and his father as Levites. It appears that my parents, who
definitely should have known better, just confused the paternal
grandfathers. >>

==Absolutely true. A woman does not become a Kohen by marrying a
Kohen, nor a Levite by marrying a Levi. And most certainly, a male does
not inherit his status through his mother, despite such claims
occasionally voiced here.

If you think that the rule discriminates against women, you may be right.
Thirty-five centuries ago, however, when the duties for the
Israelites in the desert were being divvied up, it was women's
task to collect Manna and swarms of birds for food, keep the
family's Egyptian-procured clothing relatively clean and mended
for forty years of wandering, and take care of the new generations
that were to capture and occupy the Holy Land.

The men were segregated into fighting units to defend them all,
and transport units to carry their baggage. The Levites carried the
Sacred Tent of Assembly, its golden candelabrum and altars and
other appurtenances. assembled the structures, disassembled the
structures, served as choristers, teachers, scribes, and cleaners,
and the Kohanim slaughtered the animals and burned them as
sacrifices.

What can I explain? I guess it was a preindustrial society.
Daughters and wives of Kohanim and Leviim do still today acquire
a little of the limited privileges still accrued by their menfolk,
amounting to a soupcon of reverence and saving them >from
making a pidyon haben ceremony for a first-born son.

So, once again: the status of Kohen or Levi is transmitted only
from father to son, not >from a mother, not >from a spouse.
Knowing that the family is in either line is valuable to Jewish
genners. If you have a family of Stettelman known to be Kohanim,
you can search out all the STETTELMANs in the world and
safely delete >from consideration all those known not to have been
Kohanim.

A Kohen's legacy is broken if he marries a divorcee or a non-Jew
(even a convert) and he reverts to the status of Israelite. He will not
be referred too as Kohen on his tombstone. I don't believe a Levi's
line is terminated under such circumstances.

Michael Bernet, New York
mbernet@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Susan King leaving JewishGen #general

jeremy frankel
 

The Board and many members, past and present, of the San Francisco
Bay Area JGS send their thanks, and warm wishes for her future
endeavors to Susan King. With her vision and dreams she has created
a legacy that she can be proud of ! Her inspiration has helped to
open the doors for all of us, all over the world, to our family
histories and roots. A priceless gift!

With our deep gratitude,
Jeremy Frankel
President, SFBAJGS


Greetings from JewishGen #france

Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

As you are aware, Susan King has stepped down as the Managing
Director of JewishGen, after 20 years of dedicated service.
In addition to founding JewishGen, Susan has been an
inspiration and motivating force for all of us, and will be
greatly missed. We at JewishGen and the Museum of Jewish
Heritage wish Susan all the best, and will continue to
embrace her spirit and dream as we move forward.

As I assume the post of Managing Director, I want to send
greetings to those who already know me, and introduce
myself to what I hope will be new friends and colleagues.
I have been part of JewishGen since 1990, and been its
Editor-in-Chief for many years.

As JewishGen moves into this new phase, we will be integrating
more fully with our parent organization, the Museum of Jewish
Heritage. As of April 1, 2008, the offices of JewishGen have
been relocated >from League City, Texas to the Museum of Jewish
Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust, located in
Manhattan's Battery Park. JewishGen has been an affiliate of
the Museum since 2003, and this move was initiated in order to
better integrate JewishGen's functions with Museum programs
and provide a seamless delivery of services to the JewishGen
community.

The mailing address of JewishGen is now:
JewishGen, Inc., Museum of Jewish Heritage, 36 Battery Place,
New York, NY 10280. Phone: (646) 437-4326. Fax: (646) 437-4328.

One of the unfortunate consequences of this transition is that
two of our dedicated employees were not able to join us in the
new location. The entire JewishGen community joins to acknowledge
the work of Joanna Fletcher and Becky Rogers, who have served
JewishGen for over 8 years.

Over the next few months, in addition to becoming more fully
integrated with the Museum, we will be announcing several
new projects, as well as giving you a glimpse into our plans
for the future of JewishGen.

Michael Tobias and I continue Susan's tradition, by striving to
grow JewishGen and take it to the next level. But be assured
that we will not venture too far >from our roots; we are built
on our volunteers. JewishGen's volunteers are our wealth and
strength, and that will always remain. We are always looking
for enthusiastic volunteers to join our family. Both Michael
and I hope to see many of you at the IAJGS Conference in
Chicago this summer.

I look forward to working with all of you over the months and
years ahead, as JewishGen continues to be the leading internet
resource for Jewish genealogy.

Again, I wish to greet all of you, and as we move into this
holiday season, wish you and your family a Chag Sameach and
Happy Pesach, >from me and my family.

Warren

Warren Blatt
Managing Director,
JewishGen
< wblatt@jewishgen.org >


French SIG #France Greetings from JewishGen #france

Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

As you are aware, Susan King has stepped down as the Managing
Director of JewishGen, after 20 years of dedicated service.
In addition to founding JewishGen, Susan has been an
inspiration and motivating force for all of us, and will be
greatly missed. We at JewishGen and the Museum of Jewish
Heritage wish Susan all the best, and will continue to
embrace her spirit and dream as we move forward.

As I assume the post of Managing Director, I want to send
greetings to those who already know me, and introduce
myself to what I hope will be new friends and colleagues.
I have been part of JewishGen since 1990, and been its
Editor-in-Chief for many years.

As JewishGen moves into this new phase, we will be integrating
more fully with our parent organization, the Museum of Jewish
Heritage. As of April 1, 2008, the offices of JewishGen have
been relocated >from League City, Texas to the Museum of Jewish
Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust, located in
Manhattan's Battery Park. JewishGen has been an affiliate of
the Museum since 2003, and this move was initiated in order to
better integrate JewishGen's functions with Museum programs
and provide a seamless delivery of services to the JewishGen
community.

The mailing address of JewishGen is now:
JewishGen, Inc., Museum of Jewish Heritage, 36 Battery Place,
New York, NY 10280. Phone: (646) 437-4326. Fax: (646) 437-4328.

One of the unfortunate consequences of this transition is that
two of our dedicated employees were not able to join us in the
new location. The entire JewishGen community joins to acknowledge
the work of Joanna Fletcher and Becky Rogers, who have served
JewishGen for over 8 years.

Over the next few months, in addition to becoming more fully
integrated with the Museum, we will be announcing several
new projects, as well as giving you a glimpse into our plans
for the future of JewishGen.

Michael Tobias and I continue Susan's tradition, by striving to
grow JewishGen and take it to the next level. But be assured
that we will not venture too far >from our roots; we are built
on our volunteers. JewishGen's volunteers are our wealth and
strength, and that will always remain. We are always looking
for enthusiastic volunteers to join our family. Both Michael
and I hope to see many of you at the IAJGS Conference in
Chicago this summer.

I look forward to working with all of you over the months and
years ahead, as JewishGen continues to be the leading internet
resource for Jewish genealogy.

Again, I wish to greet all of you, and as we move into this
holiday season, wish you and your family a Chag Sameach and
Happy Pesach, >from me and my family.

Warren

Warren Blatt
Managing Director,
JewishGen
< wblatt@jewishgen.org >


Re: VM11558: Translation Help with Hebrew on Matzevah #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 4/2/2008 9:59:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
_anna94306@yahoo.com_ (mailto:anna94306@yahoo.com) writes:
<< I would be very grateful for help translating a few Hebrew words
on my Grandparents' Double Headstone.
It is posted on viewmate at
_http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=11558_
(http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=11558)

<< I have underlined the 3 problem words in Red on the Stone.
The Resh may have a dot above it.

<< Please reply privately.

==I'm responding to the entire group, because it will take a group effort
to untangle this problem. For starters, the stone mason is not very adept
at Hebrew lettering. It appears that the second name was added in a
different hand and refers to a wife and mother who died on the 12th of
Tishrei in 1943, i.e. during the holocaust, and was apparently not buried
in this grave.

==If the inquiry is open to public input and discussion, I will make the time
to study the engraving further and share my fumblings with others who try to
solve it. Ultimately, by making such discussions public, we can all learn to
improve our skills.

Michael Bernet, New York
mbernet@aol.com


JRI Poland update query #lodz #poland

Miriam Eguchi <miriamj@...>
 

A short while ago it was mentioned that some more data would soon
be added to the online database of JRI Poland. I have lost the
posting; would someone please announce again which years will be
covered, and approximately when these will be added? Is there
any way to access it now?

Thank you.
Miriam Eguchi

MODERATOR'S NOTE:
Our prior posts may be found in JewishGen's mailing list archives.
The archives are searcheable and may be accessed on the web at
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~sigspop


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: VM11558: Translation Help with Hebrew on Matzevah #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 4/2/2008 9:59:52 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
_anna94306@yahoo.com_ (mailto:anna94306@yahoo.com) writes:
<< I would be very grateful for help translating a few Hebrew words
on my Grandparents' Double Headstone.
It is posted on viewmate at
_http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=11558_
(http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=11558)

<< I have underlined the 3 problem words in Red on the Stone.
The Resh may have a dot above it.

<< Please reply privately.

==I'm responding to the entire group, because it will take a group effort
to untangle this problem. For starters, the stone mason is not very adept
at Hebrew lettering. It appears that the second name was added in a
different hand and refers to a wife and mother who died on the 12th of
Tishrei in 1943, i.e. during the holocaust, and was apparently not buried
in this grave.

==If the inquiry is open to public input and discussion, I will make the time
to study the engraving further and share my fumblings with others who try to
solve it. Ultimately, by making such discussions public, we can all learn to
improve our skills.

Michael Bernet, New York
mbernet@aol.com


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland JRI Poland update query #lodz #poland

Miriam Eguchi <miriamj@...>
 

A short while ago it was mentioned that some more data would soon
be added to the online database of JRI Poland. I have lost the
posting; would someone please announce again which years will be
covered, and approximately when these will be added? Is there
any way to access it now?

Thank you.
Miriam Eguchi

MODERATOR'S NOTE:
Our prior posts may be found in JewishGen's mailing list archives.
The archives are searcheable and may be accessed on the web at
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~sigspop


Cohen.Kagan/Bornstein families #general

lizdmiller@...
 

Hello,

By mistake I deleted the email address of a Jenner who is searching
for COHEN&KAGAN families and BORNSTEINs who also went to France.
I am also looking for the same families.

Please contact me. Thanks.

Liz Ruderman Miller
lizdmiller@earthlink.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cohen.Kagan/Bornstein families #general

lizdmiller@...
 

Hello,

By mistake I deleted the email address of a Jenner who is searching
for COHEN&KAGAN families and BORNSTEINs who also went to France.
I am also looking for the same families.

Please contact me. Thanks.

Liz Ruderman Miller
lizdmiller@earthlink.net


Thank You, Susan King #general

Eden Joachim <esjoachim@...>
 

Gesher Galicia thanks Susan King for her energy and unflagging desire to see
Jewish genealogists worldwide have a home where they can explore their roots
and history and find family new and old.

Susan's vision for JewishGen allowed us all to join a movement which never
knows any limitations and which always works towards making more information
available for the good of all interested parties.

Her spirit is infectious and afforded thousands of volunteers in dozens of
countries to join together to help grow JewishGen to where it is today.
Her ability to fan the flames of the Jewish genealogy movement has made
JewishGen the foremost Jewish genealogy website in the world and created
the virtual community that relies on JewishGen's databases, discussion
lists and Special Interest Group connections on a daily basis.

We salute you Susan and will miss you. All our best wishes for a happy,
successful and fruitful future.

Eden Joachim & Pamela Weisberger
Pomona, NY & Santa Monica, CA
Coordinators of Gesher Galicia
esjoachim@optonline.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Thank You, Susan King #general

Eden Joachim <esjoachim@...>
 

Gesher Galicia thanks Susan King for her energy and unflagging desire to see
Jewish genealogists worldwide have a home where they can explore their roots
and history and find family new and old.

Susan's vision for JewishGen allowed us all to join a movement which never
knows any limitations and which always works towards making more information
available for the good of all interested parties.

Her spirit is infectious and afforded thousands of volunteers in dozens of
countries to join together to help grow JewishGen to where it is today.
Her ability to fan the flames of the Jewish genealogy movement has made
JewishGen the foremost Jewish genealogy website in the world and created
the virtual community that relies on JewishGen's databases, discussion
lists and Special Interest Group connections on a daily basis.

We salute you Susan and will miss you. All our best wishes for a happy,
successful and fruitful future.

Eden Joachim & Pamela Weisberger
Pomona, NY & Santa Monica, CA
Coordinators of Gesher Galicia
esjoachim@optonline.net


Thank you, Susan #general

Ernest Kallmann
 

Cercle de Genealogie Juive, on behalf of its 650 plus members, wants
to join all those who have benefitted >from Jewishgen almost since its
inception and presents an homage to Susan King, its founder, breeder and
manager. Dear Susan, we remember the years when you were sharing your
computer between your business and the first Jewishgen discussion list,
the latter a small start-up in business terms. Who would have imagined
what it has turned into now ? And how we would continue doing Jewish
genealogy research without Jewishgen and the multiple services it renders ?

We owe all this to you, dear Susan, and thank you >from the depth of
our hearts. You say you will start new adventures, for which we wish you
the same success as with Jewishgen, and are sure that it will be only an
"au revoir".

On behalf of the Board of Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International
JGS, Paris, France)
http://www.genealoj.org
office@genealoj.org

Cercle


Hail and farewell, Susan! #general

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

Dear Susan,

The Coordinators of the FrenchSIG, and all of our members, send you our
most heartfelt thanks for all that you have done over the years to make
JewishGen a reality! You have made our dreams come true with your own!

We wish you well in all of your future endeavors. You will be greatly
missed, but we are grateful for the legacy you have created!

Pierre Hahn
Rosanne Leeson
Co-Coordinators
FrenchSIG


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Thank you, Susan #general

Ernest Kallmann
 

Cercle de Genealogie Juive, on behalf of its 650 plus members, wants
to join all those who have benefitted >from Jewishgen almost since its
inception and presents an homage to Susan King, its founder, breeder and
manager. Dear Susan, we remember the years when you were sharing your
computer between your business and the first Jewishgen discussion list,
the latter a small start-up in business terms. Who would have imagined
what it has turned into now ? And how we would continue doing Jewish
genealogy research without Jewishgen and the multiple services it renders ?

We owe all this to you, dear Susan, and thank you >from the depth of
our hearts. You say you will start new adventures, for which we wish you
the same success as with Jewishgen, and are sure that it will be only an
"au revoir".

On behalf of the Board of Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International
JGS, Paris, France)
http://www.genealoj.org
office@genealoj.org

Cercle


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hail and farewell, Susan! #general

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

Dear Susan,

The Coordinators of the FrenchSIG, and all of our members, send you our
most heartfelt thanks for all that you have done over the years to make
JewishGen a reality! You have made our dreams come true with your own!

We wish you well in all of your future endeavors. You will be greatly
missed, but we are grateful for the legacy you have created!

Pierre Hahn
Rosanne Leeson
Co-Coordinators
FrenchSIG


Bolechow Jewish Heritage Society NYC meeting May 12 #general

SWTDNCMD@...
 

Save the Date: Monday, May 12, 2008 at 6:30 p.m. in Midtown Manhattan
all those with connection to Bolechow and the surrounding area are invited
to attend The Bolechow Jewish Heritage Society's first Annual Meeting.

The meeting will begin with a short networking period followed by a
business meeting.

The Board will present a progress report and an agenda for further
activity. Come prepared with questions and ideas.
Please contact us at Info@Bolechow.com or InfoBolechow@aol.com to
get directions and further information.

Due to building security, we will need RSVPs in advance.
(Our original meeting scheduled for May 11th was rescheduled
due to Mother's Day).

All are welcome.

Shlomo Adler, Chairman
Daniel Mendelsohn, President


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Bolechow Jewish Heritage Society NYC meeting May 12 #general

SWTDNCMD@...
 

Save the Date: Monday, May 12, 2008 at 6:30 p.m. in Midtown Manhattan
all those with connection to Bolechow and the surrounding area are invited
to attend The Bolechow Jewish Heritage Society's first Annual Meeting.

The meeting will begin with a short networking period followed by a
business meeting.

The Board will present a progress report and an agenda for further
activity. Come prepared with questions and ideas.
Please contact us at Info@Bolechow.com or InfoBolechow@aol.com to
get directions and further information.

Due to building security, we will need RSVPs in advance.
(Our original meeting scheduled for May 11th was rescheduled
due to Mother's Day).

All are welcome.

Shlomo Adler, Chairman
Daniel Mendelsohn, President