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Re: Miskolc transport to Auschwitz #general

Mimi Katz <Genealogist@...>
 

Check out this website: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=97057

Mimi Katz, Chicago

Does anyone know the exact date in 1944 that the Jews of Miskolc, Hungary
were transported to Auschwitz? I think the transport took place somewhere
between June 11-14, but would like to know the exact day if possible.
Thank you.

Regards,
Steven Lasky
New York
steve@museumoffamilyhistory.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Miskolc transport to Auschwitz #general

Mimi Katz <Genealogist@...>
 

Check out this website: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=97057

Mimi Katz, Chicago

Does anyone know the exact date in 1944 that the Jews of Miskolc, Hungary
were transported to Auschwitz? I think the transport took place somewhere
between June 11-14, but would like to know the exact day if possible.
Thank you.

Regards,
Steven Lasky
New York
steve@museumoffamilyhistory.com


Cleveland OH burial 1918 #general

Mimi Katz <Genealogist@...>
 

The last known address for my father's estranged brother was in Cleveland,
OH, 1918. He was single, no children. I believe that he died during the
flu epidemic of 1918, but I cannot find a death record. Is it possible that
a cemetery might have a burial record, even though there is no death record?
He worked for a steamship company and lived on Lakeside Blvd. It wouldn't
surprise me if he were buried as a pauper. But where???

Thank you,
Mimi Katz, Chicago


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cleveland OH burial 1918 #general

Mimi Katz <Genealogist@...>
 

The last known address for my father's estranged brother was in Cleveland,
OH, 1918. He was single, no children. I believe that he died during the
flu epidemic of 1918, but I cannot find a death record. Is it possible that
a cemetery might have a burial record, even though there is no death record?
He worked for a steamship company and lived on Lakeside Blvd. It wouldn't
surprise me if he were buried as a pauper. But where???

Thank you,
Mimi Katz, Chicago


Re: inconsistent information on Marriage Certificate #general

Jeanne Gold <twig@...>
 

I had a similar experience, specifically >from a marriage certificate. I
think, though, it was Philly, PA.

What happened had to do with the way the records were filmed. Or rather it
had to do with the way the book was assembled causing the
filming to do that.

In otherwords, imagine opening a book to begin reading and you have two
pages in front of you. The first page isn't the one on the left, but
rather the one on the right. Turn the page and you're looking at pages 2
and 3.

Using the same layout with regard to a certificate requiring two pages,
the front of the 1st certificate would be on page 1, the page on the
right and a blank page on the left.

Turning the page would be the back of the 1st certificate on page 2 and
the front of the next certificate on page 3.

On the first image, you would then have the front of certificate #1 but
on the 2nd image you would have the back of certificate #1 but the front
of certificate #2.

I hope that makes sense.

Looking at the rest of the information you have on the copy sent you,
are there any other discrepencies? If so, you may have a situation like
I'm describing above.

Jeanne Gold
Albany, OR, USA
JewishGen ID: 6106
http://www.digging4roots.com/

On Sun, 27 May 2007 15:55:42 GMT Marc DVer <mdver@dver.name> wrote:
I recently obtained the marriage certificate of my great-grandfather.
He was married in 1903 in Manhattan. On the front of the certificate it
lists one name for the groom, that being Sam, but on the reverse side,
which both the groom and bride sign attesting that the information on
the certificate is true to the best of their knowledge, a Louis signed.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: inconsistent information on Marriage Certificate #general

Jeanne Gold <twig@...>
 

I had a similar experience, specifically >from a marriage certificate. I
think, though, it was Philly, PA.

What happened had to do with the way the records were filmed. Or rather it
had to do with the way the book was assembled causing the
filming to do that.

In otherwords, imagine opening a book to begin reading and you have two
pages in front of you. The first page isn't the one on the left, but
rather the one on the right. Turn the page and you're looking at pages 2
and 3.

Using the same layout with regard to a certificate requiring two pages,
the front of the 1st certificate would be on page 1, the page on the
right and a blank page on the left.

Turning the page would be the back of the 1st certificate on page 2 and
the front of the next certificate on page 3.

On the first image, you would then have the front of certificate #1 but
on the 2nd image you would have the back of certificate #1 but the front
of certificate #2.

I hope that makes sense.

Looking at the rest of the information you have on the copy sent you,
are there any other discrepencies? If so, you may have a situation like
I'm describing above.

Jeanne Gold
Albany, OR, USA
JewishGen ID: 6106
http://www.digging4roots.com/

On Sun, 27 May 2007 15:55:42 GMT Marc DVer <mdver@dver.name> wrote:
I recently obtained the marriage certificate of my great-grandfather.
He was married in 1903 in Manhattan. On the front of the certificate it
lists one name for the groom, that being Sam, but on the reverse side,
which both the groom and bride sign attesting that the information on
the certificate is true to the best of their knowledge, a Louis signed.


Re: Miskolc transport to Auschwitz #general

Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Steven Lasky wrote on 28 mei 2007 in soc.genealogy.jewish:

Does anyone know the exact date in 1944 that the Jews of Miskolc,
Hungary were transported to Auschwitz? I think the transport took
place somewhere between June 11-14, but would like to know the exact
day if possible.
from Hungarian Gendarmerie sources: the following trains passed Kosice
(Kassa) on the Slovak-Hungarian border
101 14.6.1944 Miskolc-Diosgyör HU 3965
104 15.6.1944 Miskolc HU 2829
<http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=97057>


.. do not know what they looked like because no photographs or any other
possessions survived their arrest and transport to Auschwitz sometime
between June 11 and June 14, 1944. ...
<http://tinyurl.com/28x996> [KATI MARTON, July 21, 2002, google catch]

Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Miskolc transport to Auschwitz #general

Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Steven Lasky wrote on 28 mei 2007 in soc.genealogy.jewish:

Does anyone know the exact date in 1944 that the Jews of Miskolc,
Hungary were transported to Auschwitz? I think the transport took
place somewhere between June 11-14, but would like to know the exact
day if possible.
from Hungarian Gendarmerie sources: the following trains passed Kosice
(Kassa) on the Slovak-Hungarian border
101 14.6.1944 Miskolc-Diosgyör HU 3965
104 15.6.1944 Miskolc HU 2829
<http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=97057>


.. do not know what they looked like because no photographs or any other
possessions survived their arrest and transport to Auschwitz sometime
between June 11 and June 14, 1944. ...
<http://tinyurl.com/28x996> [KATI MARTON, July 21, 2002, google catch]

Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)


Translation from German into English KOBER birth records #general

Martin Fischer
 

I have posted two 19th Century birth records >from Kempen, Posen, Prussia,
that I would like to have translated into English. Most of it is in old
handwritten German, but each one has a small amount of Hebrew or Yiddish
that I would also like to have translated.

The first is the 1842 birth record of Vigdor KOBER. It is in three
overlapping images:
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=10005
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=10006
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=10007

The second is the 1845 birth record of Maria KOBER. It is in two overlapping
images:
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=10008
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=10009

I'm particularly curious to learn the relationship of the Kobers to Jacob
Dzialoszynski, whose name is mentioned in both documents.

Thanks very much for any help you might be able to provide.

Martin Fischer
Oak Park, Illinois, USA

Researching: KOBER, GASTMAN, DZIALOZYNSKI/DZIALOWSKI, SLUPSKY, FISCHER,
SHEYE/SHAYE in Kempen, Posen, Prussia.
-----------
The Fischer and Levin family history Web site is at:
http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Translation from German into English KOBER birth records #general

Martin Fischer
 

I have posted two 19th Century birth records >from Kempen, Posen, Prussia,
that I would like to have translated into English. Most of it is in old
handwritten German, but each one has a small amount of Hebrew or Yiddish
that I would also like to have translated.

The first is the 1842 birth record of Vigdor KOBER. It is in three
overlapping images:
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=10005
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=10006
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=10007

The second is the 1845 birth record of Maria KOBER. It is in two overlapping
images:
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=10008
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=10009

I'm particularly curious to learn the relationship of the Kobers to Jacob
Dzialoszynski, whose name is mentioned in both documents.

Thanks very much for any help you might be able to provide.

Martin Fischer
Oak Park, Illinois, USA

Researching: KOBER, GASTMAN, DZIALOZYNSKI/DZIALOWSKI, SLUPSKY, FISCHER,
SHEYE/SHAYE in Kempen, Posen, Prussia.
-----------
The Fischer and Levin family history Web site is at:
http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/


Re: Officiating Rabbi CARO #rabbinic

Agmon Chava and Hugo
 

On 2007.05.20, I asked:

Who knows of an officiating CARO Rabbi anywhere?
Greetings to all the wonderful Genners.

My thanks to all the Genners for the time they devoted to help me
find an officiating CARO rabbi. The word "officiating" may have
caused a difficulty, but I could not find a more suitable
discription. I was looking for a living active CARO rabbi. It seems
that the great rabbinical Caro dynasty has come to an end and the
CAROs have now devoted their skills to many other occupations.

Shalom and Rav Todot
Chava Agmon
Caro Family Genealogist
Tel Aviv, Israel


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Officiating Rabbi CARO #rabbinic

Agmon Chava and Hugo
 

On 2007.05.20, I asked:

Who knows of an officiating CARO Rabbi anywhere?
Greetings to all the wonderful Genners.

My thanks to all the Genners for the time they devoted to help me
find an officiating CARO rabbi. The word "officiating" may have
caused a difficulty, but I could not find a more suitable
discription. I was looking for a living active CARO rabbi. It seems
that the great rabbinical Caro dynasty has come to an end and the
CAROs have now devoted their skills to many other occupations.

Shalom and Rav Todot
Chava Agmon
Caro Family Genealogist
Tel Aviv, Israel


Re: Poor Jews Temporary Shelter Annual Report, 1907 #unitedkingdom

June Solntseff <j.solntseff@...>
 

Thanks to Ann for pointing out another valuable resource. The
Shelter was still operating in the 1970s. I know of a man who
availed himself of the facilities whilst awaiting a place in a Jewish
care home.

June Solntseff,
Canada.
HART, WOOLF, JOEL, DAVIS, etc.


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: Poor Jews Temporary Shelter Annual Report, 1907 #unitedkingdom

June Solntseff <j.solntseff@...>
 

Thanks to Ann for pointing out another valuable resource. The
Shelter was still operating in the 1970s. I know of a man who
availed himself of the facilities whilst awaiting a place in a Jewish
care home.

June Solntseff,
Canada.
HART, WOOLF, JOEL, DAVIS, etc.


Russian record from Tuszyn #lodz #poland

Darren Dalcher <D.Dalcher@...>
 

A friend has asked me for help with tracing their ancestors but I
have been struggling with making sense of the names. I have just
uploaded a certificate for a marriage held in Tusczyn in May 1881
between Yoda Laizer ROZENBAUM and Baili ROZENTSVAYG
(http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate) into the To View section of
Viewmate - as file - VM10014. If I translated it correctly, his
parents were Meir and Sura Lib (nee KRONENBERG?) ROZENBAUM. I would
appreciate confirmation of the names, especially the maiden name.

I think the bride is also >from Tusczyn but I am unable to find any
details of her parents. Am I missing the names? Is there a maiden
name?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Please respond privately to my email: (d.dalcher@mdx.ac.uk)

Many thanks.
Dr. Darren Dalcher


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Russian record from Tuszyn #lodz #poland

Darren Dalcher <D.Dalcher@...>
 

A friend has asked me for help with tracing their ancestors but I
have been struggling with making sense of the names. I have just
uploaded a certificate for a marriage held in Tusczyn in May 1881
between Yoda Laizer ROZENBAUM and Baili ROZENTSVAYG
(http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate) into the To View section of
Viewmate - as file - VM10014. If I translated it correctly, his
parents were Meir and Sura Lib (nee KRONENBERG?) ROZENBAUM. I would
appreciate confirmation of the names, especially the maiden name.

I think the bride is also >from Tusczyn but I am unable to find any
details of her parents. Am I missing the names? Is there a maiden
name?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Please respond privately to my email: (d.dalcher@mdx.ac.uk)

Many thanks.
Dr. Darren Dalcher


Help with names in Russian marriage certificate #poland

Darren Dalcher <D.Dalcher@...>
 

A friend has asked me for help with tracing their ancestors but I have
been struggling with making sense of the names. I have just uploaded a
certificate for a marriage held in Tusczyn in May 1881 between Yoda
Laizer Rozenbaum and Baili Rozentsvayg
(http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate) into the To View section of
Viewmate - as file - VM10014. If I translated it correctly, his parents
were Meir and Sura Lib (nee Kronenberg?) Rozenbaum. I would appreciate
confirmation of the names, especially the maiden name.

I think the bride is also >from Tusczyn but I am unable to find any
details of her parents. Am I missing the names? Is there a maiden name?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Please respond privately to my email: (d.dalcher@mdx.ac.uk)


Many thanks.

--
Dr. Darren Dalcher (d.dalcher@mdx.ac.uk)


JRI Poland #Poland Help with names in Russian marriage certificate #poland

Darren Dalcher <D.Dalcher@...>
 

A friend has asked me for help with tracing their ancestors but I have
been struggling with making sense of the names. I have just uploaded a
certificate for a marriage held in Tusczyn in May 1881 between Yoda
Laizer Rozenbaum and Baili Rozentsvayg
(http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate) into the To View section of
Viewmate - as file - VM10014. If I translated it correctly, his parents
were Meir and Sura Lib (nee Kronenberg?) Rozenbaum. I would appreciate
confirmation of the names, especially the maiden name.

I think the bride is also >from Tusczyn but I am unable to find any
details of her parents. Am I missing the names? Is there a maiden name?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Please respond privately to my email: (d.dalcher@mdx.ac.uk)


Many thanks.

--
Dr. Darren Dalcher (d.dalcher@mdx.ac.uk)


Family of Jonas FEDERMAN from Checiny #poland

Linda Shefler <linsilv@...>
 

I would greatly appreciate hearing >from anyone who is familiar with the
family of Jonas and Feige FEDERMAN[N] (born about 1880) in Checiny. Their
children were Lena (born about 1908) and Lefroma (name taken >from ship's
manifest which wasn't very clear) (born about 1913). Both girls were born
in Checiny.

The family arrived at Ellis Island on the SS Pretoria in December 1913.
Their destination was listed as: Cousin Mordke Kolski at 126 4th St. NY.
The nearest relative in the country they left was Freidel Federman in
Checiny. Freidel (nee ROZENBAUM/ROZENBLAT) was Jonas' mother.

According to the manifest, Feige became naturalized in 1941.

I haven't been able to locate any other records for the family (for example
census records, WWI or WWII registration); under any of the names.

This family is a part of my ROSENBLATT family, and I would very much like to
know more about them, their descendants and Jonas' six siblings. If anyone
is familiar with this family please contact me privately.

Thank you,
Linda Silverman Shefler
Cary, NC
linsilv@nc.rr.com


Polish translation #poland

Elaine Farran
 

Hi
I would appreciate a translation of a Polish birth
record for Zeesa Chana Frysz.

This document can be seen on the ViewMate site
at this address:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/index.asp
and the file is # VM9990

Please send response directly to me at
elainefarran@yahoo.com

Many thanks
Elaine Farran
Long Beach NY
Researching
SZAMPANIER/CHAMPANIER/CHENCHINSKA(& variations)- Konskie, Piotrkow,Lodz
MIODOWICZ,PEYSACHOW, ELBINGER - Konskie and environs
FRISCH/FRYSZ, CHENCHINSKAYA (& variations) - Piotrkow, Lodz