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Russian record from Tuszyn #lodz #poland

Darren Dalcher <D.Dalcher@...>
 

A friend has asked me for help with tracing their ancestors but I
have been struggling with making sense of the names. I have just
uploaded a certificate for a marriage held in Tusczyn in May 1881
between Yoda Laizer ROZENBAUM and Baili ROZENTSVAYG
(http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate) into the To View section of
Viewmate - as file - VM10014. If I translated it correctly, his
parents were Meir and Sura Lib (nee KRONENBERG?) ROZENBAUM. I would
appreciate confirmation of the names, especially the maiden name.

I think the bride is also >from Tusczyn but I am unable to find any
details of her parents. Am I missing the names? Is there a maiden
name?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Please respond privately to my email: (d.dalcher@mdx.ac.uk)

Many thanks.
Dr. Darren Dalcher


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Russian record from Tuszyn #lodz #poland

Darren Dalcher <D.Dalcher@...>
 

A friend has asked me for help with tracing their ancestors but I
have been struggling with making sense of the names. I have just
uploaded a certificate for a marriage held in Tusczyn in May 1881
between Yoda Laizer ROZENBAUM and Baili ROZENTSVAYG
(http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate) into the To View section of
Viewmate - as file - VM10014. If I translated it correctly, his
parents were Meir and Sura Lib (nee KRONENBERG?) ROZENBAUM. I would
appreciate confirmation of the names, especially the maiden name.

I think the bride is also >from Tusczyn but I am unable to find any
details of her parents. Am I missing the names? Is there a maiden
name?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Please respond privately to my email: (d.dalcher@mdx.ac.uk)

Many thanks.
Dr. Darren Dalcher


Help with names in Russian marriage certificate #poland

Darren Dalcher <D.Dalcher@...>
 

A friend has asked me for help with tracing their ancestors but I have
been struggling with making sense of the names. I have just uploaded a
certificate for a marriage held in Tusczyn in May 1881 between Yoda
Laizer Rozenbaum and Baili Rozentsvayg
(http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate) into the To View section of
Viewmate - as file - VM10014. If I translated it correctly, his parents
were Meir and Sura Lib (nee Kronenberg?) Rozenbaum. I would appreciate
confirmation of the names, especially the maiden name.

I think the bride is also >from Tusczyn but I am unable to find any
details of her parents. Am I missing the names? Is there a maiden name?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Please respond privately to my email: (d.dalcher@mdx.ac.uk)


Many thanks.

--
Dr. Darren Dalcher (d.dalcher@mdx.ac.uk)


JRI Poland #Poland Help with names in Russian marriage certificate #poland

Darren Dalcher <D.Dalcher@...>
 

A friend has asked me for help with tracing their ancestors but I have
been struggling with making sense of the names. I have just uploaded a
certificate for a marriage held in Tusczyn in May 1881 between Yoda
Laizer Rozenbaum and Baili Rozentsvayg
(http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate) into the To View section of
Viewmate - as file - VM10014. If I translated it correctly, his parents
were Meir and Sura Lib (nee Kronenberg?) Rozenbaum. I would appreciate
confirmation of the names, especially the maiden name.

I think the bride is also >from Tusczyn but I am unable to find any
details of her parents. Am I missing the names? Is there a maiden name?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Please respond privately to my email: (d.dalcher@mdx.ac.uk)


Many thanks.

--
Dr. Darren Dalcher (d.dalcher@mdx.ac.uk)


Family of Jonas FEDERMAN from Checiny #poland

Linda Shefler <linsilv@...>
 

I would greatly appreciate hearing >from anyone who is familiar with the
family of Jonas and Feige FEDERMAN[N] (born about 1880) in Checiny. Their
children were Lena (born about 1908) and Lefroma (name taken >from ship's
manifest which wasn't very clear) (born about 1913). Both girls were born
in Checiny.

The family arrived at Ellis Island on the SS Pretoria in December 1913.
Their destination was listed as: Cousin Mordke Kolski at 126 4th St. NY.
The nearest relative in the country they left was Freidel Federman in
Checiny. Freidel (nee ROZENBAUM/ROZENBLAT) was Jonas' mother.

According to the manifest, Feige became naturalized in 1941.

I haven't been able to locate any other records for the family (for example
census records, WWI or WWII registration); under any of the names.

This family is a part of my ROSENBLATT family, and I would very much like to
know more about them, their descendants and Jonas' six siblings. If anyone
is familiar with this family please contact me privately.

Thank you,
Linda Silverman Shefler
Cary, NC
linsilv@nc.rr.com


Polish translation #poland

Elaine Farran
 

Hi
I would appreciate a translation of a Polish birth
record for Zeesa Chana Frysz.

This document can be seen on the ViewMate site
at this address:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/index.asp
and the file is # VM9990

Please send response directly to me at
elainefarran@yahoo.com

Many thanks
Elaine Farran
Long Beach NY
Researching
SZAMPANIER/CHAMPANIER/CHENCHINSKA(& variations)- Konskie, Piotrkow,Lodz
MIODOWICZ,PEYSACHOW, ELBINGER - Konskie and environs
FRISCH/FRYSZ, CHENCHINSKAYA (& variations) - Piotrkow, Lodz


JRI Poland #Poland Family of Jonas FEDERMAN from Checiny #poland

Linda Shefler <linsilv@...>
 

I would greatly appreciate hearing >from anyone who is familiar with the
family of Jonas and Feige FEDERMAN[N] (born about 1880) in Checiny. Their
children were Lena (born about 1908) and Lefroma (name taken >from ship's
manifest which wasn't very clear) (born about 1913). Both girls were born
in Checiny.

The family arrived at Ellis Island on the SS Pretoria in December 1913.
Their destination was listed as: Cousin Mordke Kolski at 126 4th St. NY.
The nearest relative in the country they left was Freidel Federman in
Checiny. Freidel (nee ROZENBAUM/ROZENBLAT) was Jonas' mother.

According to the manifest, Feige became naturalized in 1941.

I haven't been able to locate any other records for the family (for example
census records, WWI or WWII registration); under any of the names.

This family is a part of my ROSENBLATT family, and I would very much like to
know more about them, their descendants and Jonas' six siblings. If anyone
is familiar with this family please contact me privately.

Thank you,
Linda Silverman Shefler
Cary, NC
linsilv@nc.rr.com


JRI Poland #Poland Polish translation #poland

Elaine Farran
 

Hi
I would appreciate a translation of a Polish birth
record for Zeesa Chana Frysz.

This document can be seen on the ViewMate site
at this address:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/index.asp
and the file is # VM9990

Please send response directly to me at
elainefarran@yahoo.com

Many thanks
Elaine Farran
Long Beach NY
Researching
SZAMPANIER/CHAMPANIER/CHENCHINSKA(& variations)- Konskie, Piotrkow,Lodz
MIODOWICZ,PEYSACHOW, ELBINGER - Konskie and environs
FRISCH/FRYSZ, CHENCHINSKAYA (& variations) - Piotrkow, Lodz


Re: SLC only microfilms for Ruzhany Belarus #belarus

David M. Fox <davefox73@...>
 

Over the years, I have read accounts in JewishGen discussion groups about
Jewish records being recorded in the record books of the Catholic church,
especially in areas of Belarus that were once under Polish influence.

Warren Blatt has written an excellent info page on this subject that
can be found at:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/polandv.html >.

According to his article, Jewish records for the period 1808-1825 for
localities within the semi-autonomous region under Russian rule known
as the "Kingdom of Poland" (Congress Poland, aka "Russian Poland") can
be found in Catholic Civil Transcripts in the Polish language.
If records for this period of time were filmed for Ruzhany by the FHL,
there is probably a strong chance that there are Jewish records.
I recall that some people have found Jewish records at the end of
Catholic register books in a separate section.

Here is another page that has some information about Jewish Records
found in Church books:

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/lyakhovichi/Church.htm

A search of the SIG message archives (Jewish records Catholic) turned
up a number of hits. One of these also provides some information
that might be useful to the discussion:
*************************************************

Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:18:38 +0200
From: "Jim Bennett" <bennett@coral.co.il>
Subject: Possible Novogrudok Metrical Records in Belarus Archive

I came across the following official website of the National Historical
Archives of Belarus:

http://archives.gov.by

I have been searching for B-M-D records of the Jews of Novogrudok for
the 19th century, with no success. But I noticed this introduction to
the "Parish Registers of the Orthodox, Uniate and Catholic Churches":

Parish registers ("metricheskiye knigi" - metric books)
Separate parish registers were kept for each religious group:
Orthodox (approximately 70% of the population of Belarus), Catholic
and Israelites (each approximately 15-20% of the population),
Protestant-Evangelical, Lutheran (a very small part of the population).
The births, marriages and deaths of all parishioners were registered in
the parish.

Notice CATHOLIC AND ISRAELITES. Could this mean there are Jewish
records located in the books of the Catholic Church?

Deeper in the site I found: "Metric Books of the Catholic Churches
Novogrudok Uyezk, Minsk Province" and in it "Novogrudok, 1802-1819
Fond 937/4, One item"


***********************************
If anyone has found Jewish records in Church records filmed by the
FHL or on personal visits to Catholic parishes in Belarus, I hope
that you will share your successes with the SIG.

Dave

--
David Fox
Mail to: davefox73@earthlink.net
Belarus SIG Founder and Past Coordinator
Arnold, MD USA
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus
http://www.davefox73.com

On 5/27/07 Rose Feldman wrote:

In preparing for the conference, I see that the only microfilms for Ruzhany,
Belarus are for the Roman Catholic congregation 1661-1912
Does any one know if church was the "official registrar" for all births,
deaths and marriages and therefore we might find the Jewish residents among
those listed?


Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: SLC only microfilms for Ruzhany Belarus #belarus

David M. Fox <davefox73@...>
 

Over the years, I have read accounts in JewishGen discussion groups about
Jewish records being recorded in the record books of the Catholic church,
especially in areas of Belarus that were once under Polish influence.

Warren Blatt has written an excellent info page on this subject that
can be found at:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/polandv.html >.

According to his article, Jewish records for the period 1808-1825 for
localities within the semi-autonomous region under Russian rule known
as the "Kingdom of Poland" (Congress Poland, aka "Russian Poland") can
be found in Catholic Civil Transcripts in the Polish language.
If records for this period of time were filmed for Ruzhany by the FHL,
there is probably a strong chance that there are Jewish records.
I recall that some people have found Jewish records at the end of
Catholic register books in a separate section.

Here is another page that has some information about Jewish Records
found in Church books:

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/lyakhovichi/Church.htm

A search of the SIG message archives (Jewish records Catholic) turned
up a number of hits. One of these also provides some information
that might be useful to the discussion:
*************************************************

Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2003 23:18:38 +0200
From: "Jim Bennett" <bennett@coral.co.il>
Subject: Possible Novogrudok Metrical Records in Belarus Archive

I came across the following official website of the National Historical
Archives of Belarus:

http://archives.gov.by

I have been searching for B-M-D records of the Jews of Novogrudok for
the 19th century, with no success. But I noticed this introduction to
the "Parish Registers of the Orthodox, Uniate and Catholic Churches":

Parish registers ("metricheskiye knigi" - metric books)
Separate parish registers were kept for each religious group:
Orthodox (approximately 70% of the population of Belarus), Catholic
and Israelites (each approximately 15-20% of the population),
Protestant-Evangelical, Lutheran (a very small part of the population).
The births, marriages and deaths of all parishioners were registered in
the parish.

Notice CATHOLIC AND ISRAELITES. Could this mean there are Jewish
records located in the books of the Catholic Church?

Deeper in the site I found: "Metric Books of the Catholic Churches
Novogrudok Uyezk, Minsk Province" and in it "Novogrudok, 1802-1819
Fond 937/4, One item"


***********************************
If anyone has found Jewish records in Church records filmed by the
FHL or on personal visits to Catholic parishes in Belarus, I hope
that you will share your successes with the SIG.

Dave

--
David Fox
Mail to: davefox73@earthlink.net
Belarus SIG Founder and Past Coordinator
Arnold, MD USA
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus
http://www.davefox73.com

On 5/27/07 Rose Feldman wrote:

In preparing for the conference, I see that the only microfilms for Ruzhany,
Belarus are for the Roman Catholic congregation 1661-1912
Does any one know if church was the "official registrar" for all births,
deaths and marriages and therefore we might find the Jewish residents among
those listed?


Re: French Naturalization records #france

j.furba@...
 

Hello
Is there an online source for the naturalization records for France?
If not and you have access to a writen source please look for me the name
ARENBERG >from the former Russian empire, namely >from Odessa, Tiraspol and
Kishinev, in general Moldova, Ukraine. Thank you very much in advance.

Janet Furba

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French SIG #France Re: French Naturalization records #france

j.furba@...
 

Hello
Is there an online source for the naturalization records for France?
If not and you have access to a writen source please look for me the name
ARENBERG >from the former Russian empire, namely >from Odessa, Tiraspol and
Kishinev, in general Moldova, Ukraine. Thank you very much in advance.

Janet Furba

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Gustav vs Gustavus in Vienna #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Gustav was a popular first name in Vienna amongst Jews. It was a secular name
chosen as a "substitute" for various Hebrew first names. There are about 630
Jewish *Gustav* buried in Vienna and environs. My great-grandfather Gustav
WOTTITZ [buried in Dobling], born in 1 May 1841 in Pressburg is one of them.

The General Discussion Group mentioned a man born in London in the late 1800s
called *Gustavus* Isaac FRANKEL - his Hebrew name was Gershon and he was always
known as Gussie! On his own headstone, his name is given as *Gustav* but his
wife's gives his name as *Gustavus*. I do not find this at all surprising.
Space could be one reason, but I think this is the most plausible explanation.

I checked out *Gustavus* in Vienna - there is a single *Gustavus* and here he
is - surprisingly a naturalised "English" Jew:

Sir Gustavus NATHAN age 68 buried 15 June 1902 Zentralfriedhof Tor 1 19 56 27

I then checked the censuses of England and Wales and the only possible match is
a naturalised German citizen living in Headingley, Leeds originally from
Hamburg - unmarried - a cloth merchant. I cannot find him in the censuses
after 1871 so he may then have moved to Vienna?

*Gustavus* is in fact a recognised Christian name in England with many English
*Gustavus* dating back many centuries, as can be seen in the Parish records.
However the censuses show most *Gustav* to be foreign-born.

Hence *Gustavus* would be the posh choice for a German or Austrian Jew living
in England. In Vienna, however, his first name stands out a mile, amongst the
local Gustav in the huge Jewish cemetery. Sir Gustavus NATHAN is alone in the
grave, so it does not appear that he married in Vienna.

I will try and find out more about the intriguing Sir Gustavus NATHAN, buried
in Vienna.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Gustav vs Gustavus in Vienna #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Gustav was a popular first name in Vienna amongst Jews. It was a secular name
chosen as a "substitute" for various Hebrew first names. There are about 630
Jewish *Gustav* buried in Vienna and environs. My great-grandfather Gustav
WOTTITZ [buried in Dobling], born in 1 May 1841 in Pressburg is one of them.

The General Discussion Group mentioned a man born in London in the late 1800s
called *Gustavus* Isaac FRANKEL - his Hebrew name was Gershon and he was always
known as Gussie! On his own headstone, his name is given as *Gustav* but his
wife's gives his name as *Gustavus*. I do not find this at all surprising.
Space could be one reason, but I think this is the most plausible explanation.

I checked out *Gustavus* in Vienna - there is a single *Gustavus* and here he
is - surprisingly a naturalised "English" Jew:

Sir Gustavus NATHAN age 68 buried 15 June 1902 Zentralfriedhof Tor 1 19 56 27

I then checked the censuses of England and Wales and the only possible match is
a naturalised German citizen living in Headingley, Leeds originally from
Hamburg - unmarried - a cloth merchant. I cannot find him in the censuses
after 1871 so he may then have moved to Vienna?

*Gustavus* is in fact a recognised Christian name in England with many English
*Gustavus* dating back many centuries, as can be seen in the Parish records.
However the censuses show most *Gustav* to be foreign-born.

Hence *Gustavus* would be the posh choice for a German or Austrian Jew living
in England. In Vienna, however, his first name stands out a mile, amongst the
local Gustav in the huge Jewish cemetery. Sir Gustavus NATHAN is alone in the
grave, so it does not appear that he married in Vienna.

I will try and find out more about the intriguing Sir Gustavus NATHAN, buried
in Vienna.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Family of Jonas FEDERMAN from Checiny #general

Linda Shefler <linsilv@...>
 

I would greatly appreciate hearing >from anyone who is familiar with the
family of Jonas and Feige FEDERMAN[N] (born about 1880) in Checiny. Their
children were Lena (born about 1908) and Lefroma (name taken >from ship's
manifest which wasn't very clear) (born about 1913). Both girls were born
in Checiny.

The family arrived at Ellis Island on the SS Pretoria in December 1913.
Their destination was listed as: Cousin Mordke Kolski at 126 4th St. NY.
The nearest relative in the country they left was Freidel Federman in
Checiny. Freidel (nee ROZENBAUM/ROZENBLAT) was Jonas' mother.

According to the manifest, Feige became naturalized in 1941.

I haven't been able to locate any other records for the family (for example
census records, WWI or WWII registration); under any of the names.

This family is a part of my ROSENBLATT family, and I would very much like to
know more about them, their descendants and Jonas' six siblings. If anyone
is familiar with this family please contact me privately.

Thank you,
Linda Silverman Shefler
Cary, NC
linsilv@nc.rr.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Family of Jonas FEDERMAN from Checiny #general

Linda Shefler <linsilv@...>
 

I would greatly appreciate hearing >from anyone who is familiar with the
family of Jonas and Feige FEDERMAN[N] (born about 1880) in Checiny. Their
children were Lena (born about 1908) and Lefroma (name taken >from ship's
manifest which wasn't very clear) (born about 1913). Both girls were born
in Checiny.

The family arrived at Ellis Island on the SS Pretoria in December 1913.
Their destination was listed as: Cousin Mordke Kolski at 126 4th St. NY.
The nearest relative in the country they left was Freidel Federman in
Checiny. Freidel (nee ROZENBAUM/ROZENBLAT) was Jonas' mother.

According to the manifest, Feige became naturalized in 1941.

I haven't been able to locate any other records for the family (for example
census records, WWI or WWII registration); under any of the names.

This family is a part of my ROSENBLATT family, and I would very much like to
know more about them, their descendants and Jonas' six siblings. If anyone
is familiar with this family please contact me privately.

Thank you,
Linda Silverman Shefler
Cary, NC
linsilv@nc.rr.com


Thank you #general

Agmon Chava and Hugo
 

Greetings to all the wonderful Genners.

My thanks to all the Genners for the time they devoted to help me find an
officiating Caro rabbi. The word "officiating "
may have caused a difficulty ,but I could not find a more suitable
discription. I was looking for a living active Caro rabbi.
It seems that the great rabbinical Caro dynasty has come to an end and the
Caro-s have now devoted their skills to many
other occupations.

Shalom and Rav Todot
Chava Agmon
Caro Family Genealogist
Tel Aviv,Israel.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Thank you #general

Agmon Chava and Hugo
 

Greetings to all the wonderful Genners.

My thanks to all the Genners for the time they devoted to help me find an
officiating Caro rabbi. The word "officiating "
may have caused a difficulty ,but I could not find a more suitable
discription. I was looking for a living active Caro rabbi.
It seems that the great rabbinical Caro dynasty has come to an end and the
Caro-s have now devoted their skills to many
other occupations.

Shalom and Rav Todot
Chava Agmon
Caro Family Genealogist
Tel Aviv,Israel.


Has anyone heard of Litti? #general

maraharv@...
 

I recently found an oral history of one of my relatives who claims the
family came >from Litti, Poland in the 1880s. He also indicates the family
were Litvaks.

I have searched throughout JewishGen as well as the Internet in general
but cannot find such a place.

Has anyone heard of Litti?

mara fein
Los Angeles
maraharv@verizon.net

searching: GORDON (Hartford & Kharkov), FRIEDMAN/FREEDMAN/BRENHOLTZ(Straciunai
& Lasdijai), GOLDMAN (Hartford & Litti), HECHT (Zurawno), WEINSTEIN (Galicia)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Has anyone heard of Litti? #general

maraharv@...
 

I recently found an oral history of one of my relatives who claims the
family came >from Litti, Poland in the 1880s. He also indicates the family
were Litvaks.

I have searched throughout JewishGen as well as the Internet in general
but cannot find such a place.

Has anyone heard of Litti?

mara fein
Los Angeles
maraharv@verizon.net

searching: GORDON (Hartford & Kharkov), FRIEDMAN/FREEDMAN/BRENHOLTZ(Straciunai
& Lasdijai), GOLDMAN (Hartford & Litti), HECHT (Zurawno), WEINSTEIN (Galicia)