Date   

JOWBR Update #sephardic

Joyce Field
 

JewishGen is pleased to announce a major update to JOWBR, JewishGen's
Online Worldwide Burial Registry, a searchable database accessible at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/cemetery/, There are now 689,125
burial records in 1,525 cemeteries and cemetery sections online. The
cemetery section list can be viewed at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/tree/CemList.htm.

JOWBR is totally dependent on donations of material >from individual
donors and other organizations who share data with us. Every one of
these donations is important to us, but I do want to point out a few
noteworthy efforts for this update:

-Bruno Segel, Rosanne Leeson, and others entered ~13,200 records >from
Botosani, Moldavia
-Terry Lasky has submitted over 16,000 records for Colorado cemeteries
-JGS of Toronto, Canada has added to this update 13 more cemeteries
and over 8,000 records, for a total of over 29,000 records, almost
all of which have been submitted by Carolynne Veffer on behalf of the
society
-Mathilde Tagger submitted data on six cemeteries in Egypt
-Jewish Cemetery Berg Altena in Curacao, Netherlands Antilles,
probably one of the oldest Jewish cemeteries in the "New World," has
been added, containing 1,217 burial records

Many more individuals and organizations have made important
contributions of data to JOWBR, too many for us to acknowledge here,
and we look forward to adding many tens of thousands records in every
quarterly update with your help. For information on how you can
submit records, see
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Submit.htm and
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/JOWBRinstructions.htm.
If you have any questions, do not hesitate to contact Nolan Altman,
JOWBR technical coordinator, at nta@pipeline.com, or me.

We are in need of Hebrew translators who can transcribe tombstone
transcriptions >from Hebrew to English. If you can help, please
contact Nolan Altman.

The JOWBR database would not be possible without the efforts of Nolan
Altman, Warren Blatt, Michael Tobias, and JewishGen.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim JOWBR Update #sephardic

Joyce Field
 

JewishGen is pleased to announce a major update to JOWBR, JewishGen's
Online Worldwide Burial Registry, a searchable database accessible at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/cemetery/, There are now 689,125
burial records in 1,525 cemeteries and cemetery sections online. The
cemetery section list can be viewed at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/tree/CemList.htm.

JOWBR is totally dependent on donations of material >from individual
donors and other organizations who share data with us. Every one of
these donations is important to us, but I do want to point out a few
noteworthy efforts for this update:

-Bruno Segel, Rosanne Leeson, and others entered ~13,200 records >from
Botosani, Moldavia
-Terry Lasky has submitted over 16,000 records for Colorado cemeteries
-JGS of Toronto, Canada has added to this update 13 more cemeteries
and over 8,000 records, for a total of over 29,000 records, almost
all of which have been submitted by Carolynne Veffer on behalf of the
society
-Mathilde Tagger submitted data on six cemeteries in Egypt
-Jewish Cemetery Berg Altena in Curacao, Netherlands Antilles,
probably one of the oldest Jewish cemeteries in the "New World," has
been added, containing 1,217 burial records

Many more individuals and organizations have made important
contributions of data to JOWBR, too many for us to acknowledge here,
and we look forward to adding many tens of thousands records in every
quarterly update with your help. For information on how you can
submit records, see
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Submit.htm and
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/JOWBRinstructions.htm.
If you have any questions, do not hesitate to contact Nolan Altman,
JOWBR technical coordinator, at nta@pipeline.com, or me.

We are in need of Hebrew translators who can transcribe tombstone
transcriptions >from Hebrew to English. If you can help, please
contact Nolan Altman.

The JOWBR database would not be possible without the efforts of Nolan
Altman, Warren Blatt, Michael Tobias, and JewishGen.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition


Belchatow Suvivor to be in National Jewish Sports Hall of Fame ---all welcome #lodz #poland

Roni S. Liebowitz
 

Dear Researchers,

This is a very special event. Former Belchatower
Harry Haft will be inducted into the National
Jewish Sports Hall of Fame on Sunday, April 29,
2007 at 10:30 AM at the Suffolk Y-JCC 74 Hauppauge
Road, Commack, NY 11725 Tel: 631-462-9800.

Harry Haft was only 16 when he was sent to the
concentration camps. He was forced to fight other
Jews in bare knuckle bouts for the entertainment
of S.S. officers. Ultimately, escaping the camp,
Harry traveled to America and became a pro boxer.
Harry now lives in Pembroke Pines, Florida. His
story of survival and his boxing career (he fought
Rocky Marciano in 1948), written by his son Alan,
has been published by Syracuse University Press.
Read more on the Belchatow ShtetLinks site at:
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/belchatow/

Harry Haft will be attending along with many
members of his family. Mark your calendars: April
29, 10:30 in the morning. Everyone is Invited. I
hope to see you there too.

All the best,
Roni

[Mrs. Roni Seibel Liebowitz]
Scarsdale, New York
Lodz ShtetLinks
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/index.htm
Lodz Area Research Group (LARG)
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/LARG.htm
Belchatow ShtetLinks
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/belchatow/


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Belchatow Suvivor to be in National Jewish Sports Hall of Fame ---all welcome #lodz #poland

Roni S. Liebowitz
 

Dear Researchers,

This is a very special event. Former Belchatower
Harry Haft will be inducted into the National
Jewish Sports Hall of Fame on Sunday, April 29,
2007 at 10:30 AM at the Suffolk Y-JCC 74 Hauppauge
Road, Commack, NY 11725 Tel: 631-462-9800.

Harry Haft was only 16 when he was sent to the
concentration camps. He was forced to fight other
Jews in bare knuckle bouts for the entertainment
of S.S. officers. Ultimately, escaping the camp,
Harry traveled to America and became a pro boxer.
Harry now lives in Pembroke Pines, Florida. His
story of survival and his boxing career (he fought
Rocky Marciano in 1948), written by his son Alan,
has been published by Syracuse University Press.
Read more on the Belchatow ShtetLinks site at:
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/belchatow/

Harry Haft will be attending along with many
members of his family. Mark your calendars: April
29, 10:30 in the morning. Everyone is Invited. I
hope to see you there too.

All the best,
Roni

[Mrs. Roni Seibel Liebowitz]
Scarsdale, New York
Lodz ShtetLinks
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/index.htm
Lodz Area Research Group (LARG)
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/LARG.htm
Belchatow ShtetLinks
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/belchatow/


JOWBR Update #rabbinic

Joyce Field
 

JewishGen is pleased to announce a major update to JOWBR, JewishGen's
Online Worldwide Burial Registry, a searchable database accessible at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/cemetery/ , There are now 689,125
burial records in 1,525 cemeteries and cemetery sections online. The
cemetery section list can be viewed at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/tree/CemList.htm.

JOWBR is totally dependent on donations of material >from individual
donors and other organizations who share data with us. Every one of
these donations is important to us, but I do want to point out a few
noteworthy efforts for this update:

-Bruno Segel, Rosanne Leeson, and others entered ~13,200 records from
Botosani, Moldavia
-Terry Lasky has submitted over 16,000 records for Colorado cemeteries
-JGS of Toronto, Canada has added to this update 13 more cemeteries
and over 8,000 records, for a total of over 29,000 records, almost
all of which have been submitted by Carolynne Veffer on behalf of
the society
-Mathilde Tagger submitted data on six cemeteries in Egypt
-Jewish Cemetery Berg Altena in Curacao, Netherlands Antilles,
probably one of the oldest Jewish cemeteries in the "New World,"
has been added, containing 1,217 burial records

Many more individuals and organizations have made important
contributions of data to JOWBR, too many for us to acknowledge here,
and we look forward to adding many tens of thousands records in every
quarterly update with your help. For information on how you can
submit records, see
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Submit.htm and
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/JOWBRinstructions.htm. If
you have any questions, do not hesitate to contact Nolan Altman, JOWBR
technical coordinator, at nta@pipeline.com, or me.

We are in need of Hebrew translators who can transcribe tombstone
transcriptions >from Hebrew to English. Id you can help, please
contact Nolan Altman.

The JOWBR database would not be possible without the efforts of Nolan
Altman, Warren Blatt, Michael Tobias, and JewishGen.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic JOWBR Update #rabbinic

Joyce Field
 

JewishGen is pleased to announce a major update to JOWBR, JewishGen's
Online Worldwide Burial Registry, a searchable database accessible at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/cemetery/ , There are now 689,125
burial records in 1,525 cemeteries and cemetery sections online. The
cemetery section list can be viewed at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/tree/CemList.htm.

JOWBR is totally dependent on donations of material >from individual
donors and other organizations who share data with us. Every one of
these donations is important to us, but I do want to point out a few
noteworthy efforts for this update:

-Bruno Segel, Rosanne Leeson, and others entered ~13,200 records from
Botosani, Moldavia
-Terry Lasky has submitted over 16,000 records for Colorado cemeteries
-JGS of Toronto, Canada has added to this update 13 more cemeteries
and over 8,000 records, for a total of over 29,000 records, almost
all of which have been submitted by Carolynne Veffer on behalf of
the society
-Mathilde Tagger submitted data on six cemeteries in Egypt
-Jewish Cemetery Berg Altena in Curacao, Netherlands Antilles,
probably one of the oldest Jewish cemeteries in the "New World,"
has been added, containing 1,217 burial records

Many more individuals and organizations have made important
contributions of data to JOWBR, too many for us to acknowledge here,
and we look forward to adding many tens of thousands records in every
quarterly update with your help. For information on how you can
submit records, see
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/Submit.htm and
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/JOWBRinstructions.htm. If
you have any questions, do not hesitate to contact Nolan Altman, JOWBR
technical coordinator, at nta@pipeline.com, or me.

We are in need of Hebrew translators who can transcribe tombstone
transcriptions >from Hebrew to English. Id you can help, please
contact Nolan Altman.

The JOWBR database would not be possible without the efforts of Nolan
Altman, Warren Blatt, Michael Tobias, and JewishGen.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition


GRUNWALD from Budapest with Relatives in Slovakia and Romania #general

pollinia@...
 

Dear Genners,

Earlier last year I posted a message asking for GRUNWALDs >from Slovakia. Since
then I was able to make some progress, and am now looking for Grunwalds in
Budapest with family relatives in Slovakia and Romania. I don't know the exact
identity of the of those >from Budapest, although I can name people who were in
touch or lived with them for certain periods.

If my description rings a bell to anyone, even if only partially, please contact
me.


Best Regards,
Shaul Sharoni,
Israel


Spoiled? #general

Nancy Ring Kendrick <ringgenealogy@...>
 

As I check my daily email >from JewishGen I find it interesting the number of
posts that ask the question; "are these records available online?" It also
triggers the thought of how spoiled genealogists have become with access to
millions, upon millions of online historic records through this wonderful
resource called the World Wide Web." I, too, am one of the spoiled ones!

Years ago, I use to travel to libraries in Orlando, FL, (60 minute drive
pending traffic), libraries in the Jacksonville area (90 minutes or more drive),
and visit the local Family History Center searching for something, anything that
was documentation of my BLOCH, KWASNY and RING ancestors. I did this an average
of 3 times a month, when time allowed. Now I don't. Therefore, I only have my
self to blame for not breaking through my brick wall. Are you guilty of the
same?

Many in this world have become so programmed to looking it up on the internet,
no matter what the subject, they forget about all the other important resources
for genealogy research. Not to mention, there is nothing better than scanning
microfilm and hitting gold. This may be the case with many of you, with the
exception of those with handicaps, etc. who really do not have the ability to
get away >from the computer.

For those who think the World Wide Web is your only resource for genealogy
records, remember, you are so wrong. And, you are limiting your chances of
discovery! The World Wide Web is only one way to search. The World Wide Web
should be used in "combination" with other forms of resources, such as your
local library, The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration in your
area, The Family History Center, and so many, many, more! For those of you not
in the United States, challenge yourself to learn what facilities in your area
offer genealogy records to meet your needs. Then, use them!

For many reading this, Spring is just around the corner! Get out, and away >from
your computer and when possible commit at least four hours per month to
genealogy research away >from the World Wide Web. Then take what you learn, and
use the World Wide Web resources such as JEWISHGEN, JRI-Poland, and the thousands
of other records online, and proceed.

Remember, the World Wide Web is only one luxurious research option among
thousands to assist you in your goals! It should be used as just that, one
source of research, not the "only" resource.

If you have comments, please reply privately, unless it would be educational
and beneficial to subscribers.

Good luck to all!

Port Orange, FL
Searching BLOCH and RING >from the following areas: Bielsko-Biala/Bystra/Kenty


Re: Jewish Refugees in Tashkent WW2 #galicia

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners and Siggers,
Ooops,forgot the link:
http://resources.ushmm.org/uzbekrefugees/name_list.php#top
Jacob Rosen
Amman,Jordan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen GRUNWALD from Budapest with Relatives in Slovakia and Romania #general

pollinia@...
 

Dear Genners,

Earlier last year I posted a message asking for GRUNWALDs >from Slovakia. Since
then I was able to make some progress, and am now looking for Grunwalds in
Budapest with family relatives in Slovakia and Romania. I don't know the exact
identity of the of those >from Budapest, although I can name people who were in
touch or lived with them for certain periods.

If my description rings a bell to anyone, even if only partially, please contact
me.


Best Regards,
Shaul Sharoni,
Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Spoiled? #general

Nancy Ring Kendrick <ringgenealogy@...>
 

As I check my daily email >from JewishGen I find it interesting the number of
posts that ask the question; "are these records available online?" It also
triggers the thought of how spoiled genealogists have become with access to
millions, upon millions of online historic records through this wonderful
resource called the World Wide Web." I, too, am one of the spoiled ones!

Years ago, I use to travel to libraries in Orlando, FL, (60 minute drive
pending traffic), libraries in the Jacksonville area (90 minutes or more drive),
and visit the local Family History Center searching for something, anything that
was documentation of my BLOCH, KWASNY and RING ancestors. I did this an average
of 3 times a month, when time allowed. Now I don't. Therefore, I only have my
self to blame for not breaking through my brick wall. Are you guilty of the
same?

Many in this world have become so programmed to looking it up on the internet,
no matter what the subject, they forget about all the other important resources
for genealogy research. Not to mention, there is nothing better than scanning
microfilm and hitting gold. This may be the case with many of you, with the
exception of those with handicaps, etc. who really do not have the ability to
get away >from the computer.

For those who think the World Wide Web is your only resource for genealogy
records, remember, you are so wrong. And, you are limiting your chances of
discovery! The World Wide Web is only one way to search. The World Wide Web
should be used in "combination" with other forms of resources, such as your
local library, The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration in your
area, The Family History Center, and so many, many, more! For those of you not
in the United States, challenge yourself to learn what facilities in your area
offer genealogy records to meet your needs. Then, use them!

For many reading this, Spring is just around the corner! Get out, and away >from
your computer and when possible commit at least four hours per month to
genealogy research away >from the World Wide Web. Then take what you learn, and
use the World Wide Web resources such as JEWISHGEN, JRI-Poland, and the thousands
of other records online, and proceed.

Remember, the World Wide Web is only one luxurious research option among
thousands to assist you in your goals! It should be used as just that, one
source of research, not the "only" resource.

If you have comments, please reply privately, unless it would be educational
and beneficial to subscribers.

Good luck to all!

Port Orange, FL
Searching BLOCH and RING >from the following areas: Bielsko-Biala/Bystra/Kenty


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re:Jewish Refugees in Tashkent WW2 #general

Abuwasta Abuwasta
 

Dear Genners and Siggers,
Ooops,forgot the link:
http://resources.ushmm.org/uzbekrefugees/name_list.php#top
Jacob Rosen
Amman,Jordan


1939-1945 Jewish Newspapers online database #austria-czech

Zimmer-Luedinghausen@t-online.de <Zimmer-Luedinghausen@...>
 

Just wanted to let all of you (who do not know this site already) know
about this interesting page of the "Deutsche Nationalbibliothek" which
has several newspapers which were and (had to be published) during the
Nazi period online.
Among them is the "J├╝disches Nachrichtenblatt" "Zidovske Listy" which
was published in Prague until 1945!.

Peter Zimmer
Muenster, Germany


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech 1939-1945 Jewish Newspapers online database #austria-czech

Zimmer-Luedinghausen@t-online.de <Zimmer-Luedinghausen@...>
 

Just wanted to let all of you (who do not know this site already) know
about this interesting page of the "Deutsche Nationalbibliothek" which
has several newspapers which were and (had to be published) during the
Nazi period online.
Among them is the "J├╝disches Nachrichtenblatt" "Zidovske Listy" which
was published in Prague until 1945!.

Peter Zimmer
Muenster, Germany


Rabbi Moses Hirsch BORO #austria-czech

Freddy Spielmann <FreddySpielmann@...>
 

Hello,

In the register of the Jewish community Pohrlitz >from 1836
("Mannschaftsbuch der Judengemeinde Pohrlitz vom Jahre 1836") there is
mentioned Moses Hirsch BORO, born 1788, with wife and children as house
owner in Pohrlitz and Rabbi of Eisgrub.

In 1862 Moses Hirsch FLESCH, Rabbi in Eisgrub, died and was buried at the
Jewish Cemetery Eisgrub.

Are Moses Hirsch BORO and Moses Hirsch FLESCH the same person?

Kind regards
F. Spielmann, Berlin/Germany

Researching:
SPIELMANN (South Moravia, Vienna, Prague)
Pohrlitz/Pohorelice:
ADLER, WOLF, FREUND, SCHNABL/SCHNOBL, FRANKEL, SPINKA, KRAUS,
STREBINGER, WOLLNER, SCHULLER/SCHILLER, MAXL,
SCHWEINBURG, WEINER, HERZEL, BRUNNER, POLLAK, BURIAN,
KOHN, BUTSCHOWITZER, SCHILD, GOLDSCHMIED, DONNEBAUM/TONEBAUM,
STEINER, SPIELMANN, LANDSMANN, LAUFER, KAUFMANN, KARPFEN,
PRAGER, NASSAU, AUSPITZ, BADER, ELLINGER, SINGER, SCHILD,
FEIFEL, FRISCHAU, RITTER, GOLDACKER, UNGAR, KRAUSS, BADER, HIRSCH, FRANKL


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Rabbi Moses Hirsch BORO #austria-czech

Freddy Spielmann <FreddySpielmann@...>
 

Hello,

In the register of the Jewish community Pohrlitz >from 1836
("Mannschaftsbuch der Judengemeinde Pohrlitz vom Jahre 1836") there is
mentioned Moses Hirsch BORO, born 1788, with wife and children as house
owner in Pohrlitz and Rabbi of Eisgrub.

In 1862 Moses Hirsch FLESCH, Rabbi in Eisgrub, died and was buried at the
Jewish Cemetery Eisgrub.

Are Moses Hirsch BORO and Moses Hirsch FLESCH the same person?

Kind regards
F. Spielmann, Berlin/Germany

Researching:
SPIELMANN (South Moravia, Vienna, Prague)
Pohrlitz/Pohorelice:
ADLER, WOLF, FREUND, SCHNABL/SCHNOBL, FRANKEL, SPINKA, KRAUS,
STREBINGER, WOLLNER, SCHULLER/SCHILLER, MAXL,
SCHWEINBURG, WEINER, HERZEL, BRUNNER, POLLAK, BURIAN,
KOHN, BUTSCHOWITZER, SCHILD, GOLDSCHMIED, DONNEBAUM/TONEBAUM,
STEINER, SPIELMANN, LANDSMANN, LAUFER, KAUFMANN, KARPFEN,
PRAGER, NASSAU, AUSPITZ, BADER, ELLINGER, SINGER, SCHILD,
FEIFEL, FRISCHAU, RITTER, GOLDACKER, UNGAR, KRAUSS, BADER, HIRSCH, FRANKL


Austria-Czech SIG lunch at the IAJGS Conf in SLCity #austria-czech

Sally Goodman <sbgoody@...>
 

On Wednesday, July 18th, the morning programs are of particular interest to
our Austria/Czech research.

Following this full-packed morning of relevant information pertinent to our
special interest will be the perfect time to gather for a no-host informal
SIG lunch.

Please contact me directly if you are interested in meeting for lunch. As
soon as I know how many people, I will get back to you with the details
(place and cost).

Here is what will happen at the Conference, Wednesday morning:

8:15-9:30 AM: Rebuilding the Archive of the Jewish Community, Vienna by
guest lecturer, historian & philospher, Ingo ZECHNER

9:30-11 AM: Austria/Czech meeting

11:15-12:30 PM: Using Nazi-Era & Post War Records in the Austrian Federal
Archives by guest lecturer Hubert STEINER

12:30-2:00 PM: no-host informal SIG lunch; details to follow.

Our friend, Julius MULLER, professional genealogist and director of Toledot,
Jewish Family History Center in Prague, will already have spoken on Monday
(Jewish Vital Records 1788-1949 Bohemia & Moravia) and Tuesday (Jewish
Census Records 1724-1811).

All program information may be seen @ www.slc2007.org

Looking forward to hearing >from you by March 19th.

Sally Goodman
Palm Springs/LA, CA
sbgoody@usa.net


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Austria-Czech SIG lunch at the IAJGS Conf in SLCity #austria-czech

Sally Goodman <sbgoody@...>
 

On Wednesday, July 18th, the morning programs are of particular interest to
our Austria/Czech research.

Following this full-packed morning of relevant information pertinent to our
special interest will be the perfect time to gather for a no-host informal
SIG lunch.

Please contact me directly if you are interested in meeting for lunch. As
soon as I know how many people, I will get back to you with the details
(place and cost).

Here is what will happen at the Conference, Wednesday morning:

8:15-9:30 AM: Rebuilding the Archive of the Jewish Community, Vienna by
guest lecturer, historian & philospher, Ingo ZECHNER

9:30-11 AM: Austria/Czech meeting

11:15-12:30 PM: Using Nazi-Era & Post War Records in the Austrian Federal
Archives by guest lecturer Hubert STEINER

12:30-2:00 PM: no-host informal SIG lunch; details to follow.

Our friend, Julius MULLER, professional genealogist and director of Toledot,
Jewish Family History Center in Prague, will already have spoken on Monday
(Jewish Vital Records 1788-1949 Bohemia & Moravia) and Tuesday (Jewish
Census Records 1724-1811).

All program information may be seen @ www.slc2007.org

Looking forward to hearing >from you by March 19th.

Sally Goodman
Palm Springs/LA, CA
sbgoody@usa.net


Wall Street #usa

jacqueline gill <shibko@...>
 

I have been told that my relative Minnie SHIBKO was one of the first women
to be employed on Wall Street. She was born (in Chicago) in 1883 so this
would presumably have been in the early years of the 20th century, prior to
her marriage in 1913. Can anyone please suggest how I might be able to
ascertain whether or not this is true? Many thanks,

Jacqueline E. Gill, London, England. <shibko@hotmail.com>


Early American SIG #USA Wall Street #usa

jacqueline gill <shibko@...>
 

I have been told that my relative Minnie SHIBKO was one of the first women
to be employed on Wall Street. She was born (in Chicago) in 1883 so this
would presumably have been in the early years of the 20th century, prior to
her marriage in 1913. Can anyone please suggest how I might be able to
ascertain whether or not this is true? Many thanks,

Jacqueline E. Gill, London, England. <shibko@hotmail.com>