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Ascher family #general

esther morag <marriana@...>
 

I am seeking information about the ASCHER family >from PEINE (e of Hannover). My
grandfather August Ascher was born in Peine in1848 and so were his ancestors up to
1774. He moved to Hamburg in 1886 after he married Esther geb. Luria and died
there in 1918. In Hamburg he dealt with Imp/Exp to North America. A business later
passed on to his son Rudulf Ascher. Does anybody come >from Peine ??? I want to
know who was August's mother , did he have any siblings, where did they come
from ??? How do I get information about the Jewish cemetry in Peine ??? I got the
above information >from the local archive, but very partial. My father Dr. Otto
Ascher was born in Hamburg and immigrated to Israel in 1936.

Also, there was a large Ascher clan in NAUGARD,POMMERN (once Prussia) during
the18th and 19th . I got the information fron Salt Lake city. Anybodie's
relatives???

Ascher is a very common name.Most of them came >from Hamburg, but immigrated
to the U.S.A and I dont think that they are related .

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ascher family #general

esther morag <marriana@...>
 

I am seeking information about the ASCHER family >from PEINE (e of Hannover). My
grandfather August Ascher was born in Peine in1848 and so were his ancestors up to
1774. He moved to Hamburg in 1886 after he married Esther geb. Luria and died
there in 1918. In Hamburg he dealt with Imp/Exp to North America. A business later
passed on to his son Rudulf Ascher. Does anybody come >from Peine ??? I want to
know who was August's mother , did he have any siblings, where did they come
from ??? How do I get information about the Jewish cemetry in Peine ??? I got the
above information >from the local archive, but very partial. My father Dr. Otto
Ascher was born in Hamburg and immigrated to Israel in 1936.

Also, there was a large Ascher clan in NAUGARD,POMMERN (once Prussia) during
the18th and 19th . I got the information fron Salt Lake city. Anybodie's
relatives???

Ascher is a very common name.Most of them came >from Hamburg, but immigrated
to the U.S.A and I dont think that they are related .

MODERATOR NOTE: One of JewishGen's most heavily visited sites is
the JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF). If you have not already done so,
please log onto www.jewishgen.org/jgff and using the enter/modify
procedure enter and register all the towns and surnames of interest
to your family research. As you learn about more names and places
of origin, they can always be added, but only **you** can keep your
own listings up to date.


Surname Changes #general

Joseph Fibel <jfibel@...>
 

Genners'

Jewish families changed their surnames frequently. My pgrandfather changed
his >from FEIBEL to FIBEL in the U S. My wife's pgreatgrandfather and all of
his branch >from GRADZANOWSKY to GROSS. Other branches changed >from
Gradzanowsky to GOLDSTEIN and LEWIS. Make sure you have posted your names
and towns on the JGFF!!! Contact Landslait for information about your
community.

This is why it is so important to collect every family document you can find
from every family member,, (Aunts, Uncles, In-Laws, and Cousins) as well as
every official document. The web is not your only source of information.

Joe Fibel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Surname Changes #general

Joseph Fibel <jfibel@...>
 

Genners'

Jewish families changed their surnames frequently. My pgrandfather changed
his >from FEIBEL to FIBEL in the U S. My wife's pgreatgrandfather and all of
his branch >from GRADZANOWSKY to GROSS. Other branches changed >from
Gradzanowsky to GOLDSTEIN and LEWIS. Make sure you have posted your names
and towns on the JGFF!!! Contact Landslait for information about your
community.

This is why it is so important to collect every family document you can find
from every family member,, (Aunts, Uncles, In-Laws, and Cousins) as well as
every official document. The web is not your only source of information.

Joe Fibel


Paper archiving question #general

Marlene Bishow
 

Hi Jeff and all:

I cannot address what archivists do, but I can tell you that I buy my
archival safe acid free protectors in bulk >from a well-known membership club
warehouse. A box of 200 costs less than $10 for the heavy duty variety. I
have also bought archival-safe acid free pens and markers >from them. >from a
well-known office supply chain, I purchased 65# card stock that is acid
free and I usually insert that into the page protector to keep the document
from getting damaged. I write on either the card stock or the margin of the
page protector with the archival-safe pen/marker to identify the people in
the picture or other information about the document. My documents are then
storedby family surname in binders on bookshelves.

I should also mention that archival safe tape, corners and "dots" are
available in craft stores in the sections withe supplies for scrapbooking.

I know that there are many systems out there for filing and storage, but I
thought that I would expand on the answer to address a larger audience.

Marlene Bishow
President
Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington
Rockville, MD
Researching:
KATZ, DEUTSCHER & NUSSBAUM in Zhuravno & Rozniatow, Galicia.
HANTMAN, GANTMAN and SINGER in Smilovichi and Koidanovo, BEL.
SHOMER, SOMMERS, SOHMER & KULPE in Lithuania

From: "malkajef" <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:37:08 -0500

...After a document is placed in an archival safe acid free sheet protector,
what is the best way to physically attach its assigned FileID number to it?
Sticky labels attached to the outside of the protector tend to fall off with
age and time. Inserted inside the protector, they tend to shift in position.
Etc.

What do archivists do? Thanks.

Jeff Malka


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Paper archiving question #general

Marlene Bishow
 

Hi Jeff and all:

I cannot address what archivists do, but I can tell you that I buy my
archival safe acid free protectors in bulk >from a well-known membership club
warehouse. A box of 200 costs less than $10 for the heavy duty variety. I
have also bought archival-safe acid free pens and markers >from them. >from a
well-known office supply chain, I purchased 65# card stock that is acid
free and I usually insert that into the page protector to keep the document
from getting damaged. I write on either the card stock or the margin of the
page protector with the archival-safe pen/marker to identify the people in
the picture or other information about the document. My documents are then
storedby family surname in binders on bookshelves.

I should also mention that archival safe tape, corners and "dots" are
available in craft stores in the sections withe supplies for scrapbooking.

I know that there are many systems out there for filing and storage, but I
thought that I would expand on the answer to address a larger audience.

Marlene Bishow
President
Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington
Rockville, MD
Researching:
KATZ, DEUTSCHER & NUSSBAUM in Zhuravno & Rozniatow, Galicia.
HANTMAN, GANTMAN and SINGER in Smilovichi and Koidanovo, BEL.
SHOMER, SOMMERS, SOHMER & KULPE in Lithuania

From: "malkajef" <malkajef@orthohelp.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:37:08 -0500

...After a document is placed in an archival safe acid free sheet protector,
what is the best way to physically attach its assigned FileID number to it?
Sticky labels attached to the outside of the protector tend to fall off with
age and time. Inserted inside the protector, they tend to shift in position.
Etc.

What do archivists do? Thanks.

Jeff Malka


Re: Requests to remove info.... #general

Roberta Sheps
 

This is always a good one. We've all got scandals and secrets. I think
you have to ask two questions:

1. for what purpose am I producing this tree? And then,
2. does the usefulness of the information outweigh consideration of people's
feelings?

If your prime concern is straightforward genealogy (who beget who), then
relationships that don't produce offspring don't contribute anything and should not
be included. If your purpose is the family story you have to ask two further
questions:

1. who is going to see it? And then
2. is it worth hurting someone's feelings?

If you are the only person who is going to see the unexpurgated edition, by all
means include everything. If you intend to distribute it to other family members
or to publish it in some way or leave it behind you for the next generation, you
have to be very certain that the information will be worth the pain. If a cousin
hasn't come out it sure isn't your job to do it for him! Or her. If, as in your
example of the regretted first marriage, the information isn't a secret, but just
a sad reminder, the question is more finely balanced. One way out of this
difficulty is to keep the information in the database but to edit it out when you
are distributing the information. This is what I do. You then have to be very
sure to edit out the sensitive information every time you create and send a Gedcom
or other file.

Good luck,

Roberta Sheps
Colchester, UK

Searching GUREVICH and BELOVITSKY in the Vilnius region, SHEPS >from Kherson
gubernia, YAFFEE >from Disna region, LAZEBNIKOV (Lyons) >from Bareshevka.
Also anyone with roots in either Pisek or Strakonice, Southern Bohemia.

-----Original Message-----
From: Micah Salb [mailto:msalb@lsslawyers.com]=20
Subject: Requests to remove info....

How do you respond when a family member asks that information about them
not be included in the genealogy. I don't want to step on anyone's toes or
lose a potential relationship/source, etc etc, but I also don't want to
be inaccurate.

Thoughts?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Requests to remove info.... #general

Roberta Sheps
 

This is always a good one. We've all got scandals and secrets. I think
you have to ask two questions:

1. for what purpose am I producing this tree? And then,
2. does the usefulness of the information outweigh consideration of people's
feelings?

If your prime concern is straightforward genealogy (who beget who), then
relationships that don't produce offspring don't contribute anything and should not
be included. If your purpose is the family story you have to ask two further
questions:

1. who is going to see it? And then
2. is it worth hurting someone's feelings?

If you are the only person who is going to see the unexpurgated edition, by all
means include everything. If you intend to distribute it to other family members
or to publish it in some way or leave it behind you for the next generation, you
have to be very certain that the information will be worth the pain. If a cousin
hasn't come out it sure isn't your job to do it for him! Or her. If, as in your
example of the regretted first marriage, the information isn't a secret, but just
a sad reminder, the question is more finely balanced. One way out of this
difficulty is to keep the information in the database but to edit it out when you
are distributing the information. This is what I do. You then have to be very
sure to edit out the sensitive information every time you create and send a Gedcom
or other file.

Good luck,

Roberta Sheps
Colchester, UK

Searching GUREVICH and BELOVITSKY in the Vilnius region, SHEPS >from Kherson
gubernia, YAFFEE >from Disna region, LAZEBNIKOV (Lyons) >from Bareshevka.
Also anyone with roots in either Pisek or Strakonice, Southern Bohemia.

-----Original Message-----
From: Micah Salb [mailto:msalb@lsslawyers.com]=20
Subject: Requests to remove info....

How do you respond when a family member asks that information about them
not be included in the genealogy. I don't want to step on anyone's toes or
lose a potential relationship/source, etc etc, but I also don't want to
be inaccurate.

Thoughts?


Re: Jewish citizenship #austria-czech

Peter Barber <peter_barber@...>
 

I believe the generally accepted date for this, in the Habsburg empire, is
1867 when the last disabilities on the Jews were abolished in the context of
the establishment of the Austro-Hungarian monarchy.

Peter Barber

London

On 6/1/07 08:43, "robert fraser" <robertandginafraser@iinet.net.au> wrote:

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Hi Siggers -

We're all well aware of the various Toleranzpatents issued by the Hapsburgs
affecting the civil rights of Jews resident in their realms, but I'm just
wondering at what point did the Jews of Austria, CZ etc actually achieve
full citizenship?

Shabbat shalom

Robert Fraser
Dianella, Western Australia
robertandginafraser@iinet.net.au
Researching:
NOWAK - Moravia/Austria; EISINGER - Moravia and the World
FINKELSTEIN - Galicia; NAGEL - Moravia/Austria
KRAUTERBLUTH - ? Galicia
Member of JHGS of Western Australia

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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Jewish citizenship #austria-czech

Peter Barber <peter_barber@...>
 

I believe the generally accepted date for this, in the Habsburg empire, is
1867 when the last disabilities on the Jews were abolished in the context of
the establishment of the Austro-Hungarian monarchy.

Peter Barber

London

On 6/1/07 08:43, "robert fraser" <robertandginafraser@iinet.net.au> wrote:

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Hi Siggers -

We're all well aware of the various Toleranzpatents issued by the Hapsburgs
affecting the civil rights of Jews resident in their realms, but I'm just
wondering at what point did the Jews of Austria, CZ etc actually achieve
full citizenship?

Shabbat shalom

Robert Fraser
Dianella, Western Australia
robertandginafraser@iinet.net.au
Researching:
NOWAK - Moravia/Austria; EISINGER - Moravia and the World
FINKELSTEIN - Galicia; NAGEL - Moravia/Austria
KRAUTERBLUTH - ? Galicia
Member of JHGS of Western Australia

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Re: STIEBEL - Langenschwarz, Germany Thank you GerSIG! #germany

Harriet Hoffman
 

I would like to thank John Lowens for his article about the GerSig and
express my appreciation for his effort as coordinator and moderator.
The GerSig has been significant in the search for my STIEBEL line from
Langenschwarz, Germany. I am grateful to all that make this possible.

Harriet Hoffman Honolulu, Hawaii, USA Hart4specs@aol.com


German SIG #Germany Re: STIEBEL - Langenschwarz, Germany Thank you GerSIG! #germany

Harriet Hoffman
 

I would like to thank John Lowens for his article about the GerSig and
express my appreciation for his effort as coordinator and moderator.
The GerSig has been significant in the search for my STIEBEL line from
Langenschwarz, Germany. I am grateful to all that make this possible.

Harriet Hoffman Honolulu, Hawaii, USA Hart4specs@aol.com


Polish-Styled Name Confusion? #galicia

JNetNF2BonVivart@...
 

My Omama, Frieda Strum-Nemon's Przemysl, Poland birth record both
confirmed some family names, yet brought forth some puzzling intrigue.
It listed her (known) mother, Malia Bauman and her maternal grandmother
as Solomona Freidy. We are quite certain her name was Frieda Frost.
Could her name be listed (uncharacteristically) as a given & middle
name, omitting the surname? The "a" at the end of Solomon seems a
peculiar addition, as does the "y" at the end of what seems should be
"Frieda". Could these spellings be diminutives inscribed on an
official document?! It appears that there might possibly be an ornate
cursive "i" between the two names. No other names on this document
list a surname before a given name. Might Solomona Freidy be the
single example of such a reversal on this document?
Can anyone help to solve these mysteries? Thanks

Jeannette Nemon Fischman
JNetNF2BonVivArt@aol.com

Researching:
Przemysl & Ulanov: Frost, Bauman, Strum,
Kropivna, Pomoraine/Gologory, Ukraine: Siegal & Nemon
Ederne', Ismir, Turkey: de Vidas, Canetti
Sliven, Bulgaria: Behar
Isle of Crete/Chania, Greece: Franco


Re: wapno-wypalanie chaufourniers lime burning #galicia

Milton and Robin Meisner and Family <the.meisners@...>
 

Dear Friend Carol Gene Cohen,

"Lime burning" is the process of burning bones to create calcium
hydroxide which is lime, in the ash. Waste bones >from
slaughterhouses or deceased animals would be burned at high
temperatures to create industrial lime used then for many purposes
such as making cement, to break down or destroy organic matter for
fertilizer, or for graves. It was also used to make glue and
gelatin. Lime used for pH change to soil was also a popular use.

Good luck in your research.

May you discover your loved ones and restore their memories for the
future generations!

Sincerely,
Robin (Nack) Meisner
Draper, Utah, USA
the.meisners@comcast.net

Researching:
NAK, NAG, NOG, NOK, NACK: Rzeszow, Poland
HASENKOPF: Rzeszow, Poland
WEINMANN: Rzeszow, Poland
GRAU, GREY, GROSS, GRAND: Nowy Sacz, Poland

Carol Gene Cohen <cgandhc@ont.com> wrote...

I have just found the listing of a cousin of mine >from Wolica
(near Podjace) in the 1929 Polish Directory p. 1716. His occupation
(>from the Jewish Gen. list) is copied on my subject line above.
Does anyone know what lime burning is?


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Polish-Styled Name Confusion? #galicia

JNetNF2BonVivart@...
 

My Omama, Frieda Strum-Nemon's Przemysl, Poland birth record both
confirmed some family names, yet brought forth some puzzling intrigue.
It listed her (known) mother, Malia Bauman and her maternal grandmother
as Solomona Freidy. We are quite certain her name was Frieda Frost.
Could her name be listed (uncharacteristically) as a given & middle
name, omitting the surname? The "a" at the end of Solomon seems a
peculiar addition, as does the "y" at the end of what seems should be
"Frieda". Could these spellings be diminutives inscribed on an
official document?! It appears that there might possibly be an ornate
cursive "i" between the two names. No other names on this document
list a surname before a given name. Might Solomona Freidy be the
single example of such a reversal on this document?
Can anyone help to solve these mysteries? Thanks

Jeannette Nemon Fischman
JNetNF2BonVivArt@aol.com

Researching:
Przemysl & Ulanov: Frost, Bauman, Strum,
Kropivna, Pomoraine/Gologory, Ukraine: Siegal & Nemon
Ederne', Ismir, Turkey: de Vidas, Canetti
Sliven, Bulgaria: Behar
Isle of Crete/Chania, Greece: Franco


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: wapno-wypalanie chaufourniers lime burning #galicia

Milton and Robin Meisner and Family <the.meisners@...>
 

Dear Friend Carol Gene Cohen,

"Lime burning" is the process of burning bones to create calcium
hydroxide which is lime, in the ash. Waste bones >from
slaughterhouses or deceased animals would be burned at high
temperatures to create industrial lime used then for many purposes
such as making cement, to break down or destroy organic matter for
fertilizer, or for graves. It was also used to make glue and
gelatin. Lime used for pH change to soil was also a popular use.

Good luck in your research.

May you discover your loved ones and restore their memories for the
future generations!

Sincerely,
Robin (Nack) Meisner
Draper, Utah, USA
the.meisners@comcast.net

Researching:
NAK, NAG, NOG, NOK, NACK: Rzeszow, Poland
HASENKOPF: Rzeszow, Poland
WEINMANN: Rzeszow, Poland
GRAU, GREY, GROSS, GRAND: Nowy Sacz, Poland

Carol Gene Cohen <cgandhc@ont.com> wrote...

I have just found the listing of a cousin of mine >from Wolica
(near Podjace) in the 1929 Polish Directory p. 1716. His occupation
(>from the Jewish Gen. list) is copied on my subject line above.
Does anyone know what lime burning is?


Searching for family of Dr. Jacob Eduard POLAK (POLLAK) #austria-czech

Judith Berlowitz <judigenie@...>
 

Greetings SIGgers,
Do any of you have Jacob Eduard POLAK in your
databases? He was born in Morina in 1818 and became
personal physician to the Shah of Iran and is
considered the pioneer of modern medicine in Iran (see
http://www.ams.ac.ir/AIM/0582/0020.pdf). I am
wondering if he could be related to my Bernard or
Markus POLLAK, born around the same time, or to Joseph
POLLAK, born around 1790.
Judith Berlowitz
Oakland, California
Researching (direct ancestors) FISCHL, FRESCHL,
GINZBURG, GROENHUT, LEDERER, RICHTER, various Bohemian towns.


Jewish citizenship #austria-czech

robert fraser <robertandginafraser@...>
 

Hi Siggers -

We're all well aware of the various Toleranzpatents issued by the Hapsburgs
affecting the civil rights of Jews resident in their realms, but I'm just
wondering at what point did the Jews of Austria, CZ etc actually achieve
full citizenship?

Shabbat shalom

Robert Fraser
Dianella, Western Australia
robertandginafraser@iinet.net.au
Researching:
NOWAK - Moravia/Austria; EISINGER - Moravia and the World
FINKELSTEIN - Galicia; NAGEL - Moravia/Austria
KRAUTERBLUTH - ? Galicia
Member of JHGS of Western Australia


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Searching for family of Dr. Jacob Eduard POLAK (POLLAK) #austria-czech

Judith Berlowitz <judigenie@...>
 

Greetings SIGgers,
Do any of you have Jacob Eduard POLAK in your
databases? He was born in Morina in 1818 and became
personal physician to the Shah of Iran and is
considered the pioneer of modern medicine in Iran (see
http://www.ams.ac.ir/AIM/0582/0020.pdf). I am
wondering if he could be related to my Bernard or
Markus POLLAK, born around the same time, or to Joseph
POLLAK, born around 1790.
Judith Berlowitz
Oakland, California
Researching (direct ancestors) FISCHL, FRESCHL,
GINZBURG, GROENHUT, LEDERER, RICHTER, various Bohemian towns.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Jewish citizenship #austria-czech

robert fraser <robertandginafraser@...>
 

Hi Siggers -

We're all well aware of the various Toleranzpatents issued by the Hapsburgs
affecting the civil rights of Jews resident in their realms, but I'm just
wondering at what point did the Jews of Austria, CZ etc actually achieve
full citizenship?

Shabbat shalom

Robert Fraser
Dianella, Western Australia
robertandginafraser@iinet.net.au
Researching:
NOWAK - Moravia/Austria; EISINGER - Moravia and the World
FINKELSTEIN - Galicia; NAGEL - Moravia/Austria
KRAUTERBLUTH - ? Galicia
Member of JHGS of Western Australia