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Ascher family
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esther morag <marriana@...>
I am seeking information about the ASCHER family >from PEINE (e of Hannover). My
grandfather August Ascher was born in Peine in1848 and so were his ancestors up to 1774. He moved to Hamburg in 1886 after he married Esther geb. Luria and died there in 1918. In Hamburg he dealt with Imp/Exp to North America. A business later passed on to his son Rudulf Ascher. Does anybody come >from Peine ??? I want to know who was August's mother , did he have any siblings, where did they come from ??? How do I get information about the Jewish cemetry in Peine ??? I got theabove information >from the local archive, but very partial. My father Dr. Otto Ascher was born in Hamburg and immigrated to Israel in 1936. Also, there was a large Ascher clan in NAUGARD,POMMERN (once Prussia) during the18th and 19th . I got the information fron Salt Lake city. Anybodie's relatives??? Ascher is a very common name.Most of them came >from Hamburg, but immigrated to the U.S.A and I dont think that they are related . MODERATOR NOTE: One of JewishGen's most heavily visited sites is the JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF). If you have not already done so, please log onto www.jewishgen.org/jgff and using the enter/modify procedure enter and register all the towns and surnames of interest to your family research. As you learn about more names and places of origin, they can always be added, but only **you** can keep your own listings up to date.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ascher family
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esther morag <marriana@...>
I am seeking information about the ASCHER family >from PEINE (e of Hannover). My
grandfather August Ascher was born in Peine in1848 and so were his ancestors up to 1774. He moved to Hamburg in 1886 after he married Esther geb. Luria and died there in 1918. In Hamburg he dealt with Imp/Exp to North America. A business later passed on to his son Rudulf Ascher. Does anybody come >from Peine ??? I want to know who was August's mother , did he have any siblings, where did they come from ??? How do I get information about the Jewish cemetry in Peine ??? I got theabove information >from the local archive, but very partial. My father Dr. Otto Ascher was born in Hamburg and immigrated to Israel in 1936. Also, there was a large Ascher clan in NAUGARD,POMMERN (once Prussia) during the18th and 19th . I got the information fron Salt Lake city. Anybodie's relatives??? Ascher is a very common name.Most of them came >from Hamburg, but immigrated to the U.S.A and I dont think that they are related . MODERATOR NOTE: One of JewishGen's most heavily visited sites is the JewishGen Family Finder (JGFF). If you have not already done so, please log onto www.jewishgen.org/jgff and using the enter/modify procedure enter and register all the towns and surnames of interest to your family research. As you learn about more names and places of origin, they can always be added, but only **you** can keep your own listings up to date.
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Surname Changes
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Joseph Fibel <jfibel@...>
Genners'
Jewish families changed their surnames frequently. My pgrandfather changed his >from FEIBEL to FIBEL in the U S. My wife's pgreatgrandfather and all of his branch >from GRADZANOWSKY to GROSS. Other branches changed >from Gradzanowsky to GOLDSTEIN and LEWIS. Make sure you have posted your names and towns on the JGFF!!! Contact Landslait for information about your community. This is why it is so important to collect every family document you can find from every family member,, (Aunts, Uncles, In-Laws, and Cousins) as well asevery official document. The web is not your only source of information. Joe Fibel
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Surname Changes
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Joseph Fibel <jfibel@...>
Genners'
Jewish families changed their surnames frequently. My pgrandfather changed his >from FEIBEL to FIBEL in the U S. My wife's pgreatgrandfather and all of his branch >from GRADZANOWSKY to GROSS. Other branches changed >from Gradzanowsky to GOLDSTEIN and LEWIS. Make sure you have posted your names and towns on the JGFF!!! Contact Landslait for information about your community. This is why it is so important to collect every family document you can find from every family member,, (Aunts, Uncles, In-Laws, and Cousins) as well asevery official document. The web is not your only source of information. Joe Fibel
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Paper archiving question
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Hi Jeff and all:
I cannot address what archivists do, but I can tell you that I buy my archival safe acid free protectors in bulk >from a well-known membership club warehouse. A box of 200 costs less than $10 for the heavy duty variety. I have also bought archival-safe acid free pens and markers >from them. >from a well-known office supply chain, I purchased 65# card stock that is acid free and I usually insert that into the page protector to keep the document from getting damaged. I write on either the card stock or the margin of thepage protector with the archival-safe pen/marker to identify the people in the picture or other information about the document. My documents are then storedby family surname in binders on bookshelves. I should also mention that archival safe tape, corners and "dots" are available in craft stores in the sections withe supplies for scrapbooking. I know that there are many systems out there for filing and storage, but I thought that I would expand on the answer to address a larger audience. Marlene Bishow President Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington Rockville, MD Researching: KATZ, DEUTSCHER & NUSSBAUM in Zhuravno & Rozniatow, Galicia. HANTMAN, GANTMAN and SINGER in Smilovichi and Koidanovo, BEL. SHOMER, SOMMERS, SOHMER & KULPE in Lithuania From: "malkajef" <malkajef@orthohelp.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:37:08 -0500 ...After a document is placed in an archival safe acid free sheet protector, what is the best way to physically attach its assigned FileID number to it? Sticky labels attached to the outside of the protector tend to fall off with age and time. Inserted inside the protector, they tend to shift in position. Etc. What do archivists do? Thanks. Jeff Malka
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Paper archiving question
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Hi Jeff and all:
I cannot address what archivists do, but I can tell you that I buy my archival safe acid free protectors in bulk >from a well-known membership club warehouse. A box of 200 costs less than $10 for the heavy duty variety. I have also bought archival-safe acid free pens and markers >from them. >from a well-known office supply chain, I purchased 65# card stock that is acid free and I usually insert that into the page protector to keep the document from getting damaged. I write on either the card stock or the margin of thepage protector with the archival-safe pen/marker to identify the people in the picture or other information about the document. My documents are then storedby family surname in binders on bookshelves. I should also mention that archival safe tape, corners and "dots" are available in craft stores in the sections withe supplies for scrapbooking. I know that there are many systems out there for filing and storage, but I thought that I would expand on the answer to address a larger audience. Marlene Bishow President Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington Rockville, MD Researching: KATZ, DEUTSCHER & NUSSBAUM in Zhuravno & Rozniatow, Galicia. HANTMAN, GANTMAN and SINGER in Smilovichi and Koidanovo, BEL. SHOMER, SOMMERS, SOHMER & KULPE in Lithuania From: "malkajef" <malkajef@orthohelp.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2007 10:37:08 -0500 ...After a document is placed in an archival safe acid free sheet protector, what is the best way to physically attach its assigned FileID number to it? Sticky labels attached to the outside of the protector tend to fall off with age and time. Inserted inside the protector, they tend to shift in position. Etc. What do archivists do? Thanks. Jeff Malka
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Re: Requests to remove info....
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Roberta Sheps
This is always a good one. We've all got scandals and secrets. I think
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you have to ask two questions: 1. for what purpose am I producing this tree? And then, 2. does the usefulness of the information outweigh consideration of people's feelings? If your prime concern is straightforward genealogy (who beget who), then relationships that don't produce offspring don't contribute anything and should not be included. If your purpose is the family story you have to ask two further questions: 1. who is going to see it? And then 2. is it worth hurting someone's feelings? If you are the only person who is going to see the unexpurgated edition, by all means include everything. If you intend to distribute it to other family members or to publish it in some way or leave it behind you for the next generation, you have to be very certain that the information will be worth the pain. If a cousin hasn't come out it sure isn't your job to do it for him! Or her. If, as in your example of the regretted first marriage, the information isn't a secret, but just a sad reminder, the question is more finely balanced. One way out of this difficulty is to keep the information in the database but to edit it out when you are distributing the information. This is what I do. You then have to be very sure to edit out the sensitive information every time you create and send a Gedcom or other file. Good luck, Roberta Sheps Colchester, UK Searching GUREVICH and BELOVITSKY in the Vilnius region, SHEPS >from Kherson gubernia, YAFFEE >from Disna region, LAZEBNIKOV (Lyons) >from Bareshevka. Also anyone with roots in either Pisek or Strakonice, Southern Bohemia.
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From: Micah Salb [mailto:msalb@lsslawyers.com]=20 Subject: Requests to remove info.... How do you respond when a family member asks that information about them not be included in the genealogy. I don't want to step on anyone's toes or lose a potential relationship/source, etc etc, but I also don't want to be inaccurate. Thoughts?
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Requests to remove info....
#general
Roberta Sheps
This is always a good one. We've all got scandals and secrets. I think
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you have to ask two questions: 1. for what purpose am I producing this tree? And then, 2. does the usefulness of the information outweigh consideration of people's feelings? If your prime concern is straightforward genealogy (who beget who), then relationships that don't produce offspring don't contribute anything and should not be included. If your purpose is the family story you have to ask two further questions: 1. who is going to see it? And then 2. is it worth hurting someone's feelings? If you are the only person who is going to see the unexpurgated edition, by all means include everything. If you intend to distribute it to other family members or to publish it in some way or leave it behind you for the next generation, you have to be very certain that the information will be worth the pain. If a cousin hasn't come out it sure isn't your job to do it for him! Or her. If, as in your example of the regretted first marriage, the information isn't a secret, but just a sad reminder, the question is more finely balanced. One way out of this difficulty is to keep the information in the database but to edit it out when you are distributing the information. This is what I do. You then have to be very sure to edit out the sensitive information every time you create and send a Gedcom or other file. Good luck, Roberta Sheps Colchester, UK Searching GUREVICH and BELOVITSKY in the Vilnius region, SHEPS >from Kherson gubernia, YAFFEE >from Disna region, LAZEBNIKOV (Lyons) >from Bareshevka. Also anyone with roots in either Pisek or Strakonice, Southern Bohemia.
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From: Micah Salb [mailto:msalb@lsslawyers.com]=20 Subject: Requests to remove info.... How do you respond when a family member asks that information about them not be included in the genealogy. I don't want to step on anyone's toes or lose a potential relationship/source, etc etc, but I also don't want to be inaccurate. Thoughts?
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Re: Jewish citizenship
#austria-czech
Peter Barber <peter_barber@...>
I believe the generally accepted date for this, in the Habsburg empire, is
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1867 when the last disabilities on the Jews were abolished in the context of the establishment of the Austro-Hungarian monarchy. Peter Barber London
On 6/1/07 08:43, "robert fraser" <robertandginafraser@iinet.net.au> wrote:
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Jewish citizenship
#austria-czech
Peter Barber <peter_barber@...>
I believe the generally accepted date for this, in the Habsburg empire, is
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1867 when the last disabilities on the Jews were abolished in the context of the establishment of the Austro-Hungarian monarchy. Peter Barber London
On 6/1/07 08:43, "robert fraser" <robertandginafraser@iinet.net.au> wrote:
Visit our website: http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/
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Re: STIEBEL - Langenschwarz, Germany Thank you GerSIG!
#germany
Harriet Hoffman
I would like to thank John Lowens for his article about the GerSig and
express my appreciation for his effort as coordinator and moderator. The GerSig has been significant in the search for my STIEBEL line from Langenschwarz, Germany. I am grateful to all that make this possible. Harriet Hoffman Honolulu, Hawaii, USA Hart4specs@aol.com
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German SIG #Germany Re: STIEBEL - Langenschwarz, Germany Thank you GerSIG!
#germany
Harriet Hoffman
I would like to thank John Lowens for his article about the GerSig and
express my appreciation for his effort as coordinator and moderator. The GerSig has been significant in the search for my STIEBEL line from Langenschwarz, Germany. I am grateful to all that make this possible. Harriet Hoffman Honolulu, Hawaii, USA Hart4specs@aol.com
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Polish-Styled Name Confusion?
#galicia
JNetNF2BonVivart@...
My Omama, Frieda Strum-Nemon's Przemysl, Poland birth record both
confirmed some family names, yet brought forth some puzzling intrigue. It listed her (known) mother, Malia Bauman and her maternal grandmother as Solomona Freidy. We are quite certain her name was Frieda Frost. Could her name be listed (uncharacteristically) as a given & middle name, omitting the surname? The "a" at the end of Solomon seems a peculiar addition, as does the "y" at the end of what seems should be "Frieda". Could these spellings be diminutives inscribed on an official document?! It appears that there might possibly be an ornate cursive "i" between the two names. No other names on this document list a surname before a given name. Might Solomona Freidy be the single example of such a reversal on this document? Can anyone help to solve these mysteries? Thanks Jeannette Nemon Fischman JNetNF2BonVivArt@aol.com Researching: Przemysl & Ulanov: Frost, Bauman, Strum, Kropivna, Pomoraine/Gologory, Ukraine: Siegal & Nemon Ederne', Ismir, Turkey: de Vidas, Canetti Sliven, Bulgaria: Behar Isle of Crete/Chania, Greece: Franco
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Re: wapno-wypalanie chaufourniers lime burning
#galicia
Milton and Robin Meisner and Family <the.meisners@...>
Dear Friend Carol Gene Cohen,
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"Lime burning" is the process of burning bones to create calcium hydroxide which is lime, in the ash. Waste bones >from slaughterhouses or deceased animals would be burned at high temperatures to create industrial lime used then for many purposes such as making cement, to break down or destroy organic matter for fertilizer, or for graves. It was also used to make glue and gelatin. Lime used for pH change to soil was also a popular use. Good luck in your research. May you discover your loved ones and restore their memories for the future generations! Sincerely, Robin (Nack) Meisner Draper, Utah, USA the.meisners@comcast.net Researching: NAK, NAG, NOG, NOK, NACK: Rzeszow, Poland HASENKOPF: Rzeszow, Poland WEINMANN: Rzeszow, Poland GRAU, GREY, GROSS, GRAND: Nowy Sacz, Poland Carol Gene Cohen <cgandhc@ont.com> wrote...
I have just found the listing of a cousin of mine >from Wolica
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Polish-Styled Name Confusion?
#galicia
JNetNF2BonVivart@...
My Omama, Frieda Strum-Nemon's Przemysl, Poland birth record both
confirmed some family names, yet brought forth some puzzling intrigue. It listed her (known) mother, Malia Bauman and her maternal grandmother as Solomona Freidy. We are quite certain her name was Frieda Frost. Could her name be listed (uncharacteristically) as a given & middle name, omitting the surname? The "a" at the end of Solomon seems a peculiar addition, as does the "y" at the end of what seems should be "Frieda". Could these spellings be diminutives inscribed on an official document?! It appears that there might possibly be an ornate cursive "i" between the two names. No other names on this document list a surname before a given name. Might Solomona Freidy be the single example of such a reversal on this document? Can anyone help to solve these mysteries? Thanks Jeannette Nemon Fischman JNetNF2BonVivArt@aol.com Researching: Przemysl & Ulanov: Frost, Bauman, Strum, Kropivna, Pomoraine/Gologory, Ukraine: Siegal & Nemon Ederne', Ismir, Turkey: de Vidas, Canetti Sliven, Bulgaria: Behar Isle of Crete/Chania, Greece: Franco
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: wapno-wypalanie chaufourniers lime burning
#galicia
Milton and Robin Meisner and Family <the.meisners@...>
Dear Friend Carol Gene Cohen,
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"Lime burning" is the process of burning bones to create calcium hydroxide which is lime, in the ash. Waste bones >from slaughterhouses or deceased animals would be burned at high temperatures to create industrial lime used then for many purposes such as making cement, to break down or destroy organic matter for fertilizer, or for graves. It was also used to make glue and gelatin. Lime used for pH change to soil was also a popular use. Good luck in your research. May you discover your loved ones and restore their memories for the future generations! Sincerely, Robin (Nack) Meisner Draper, Utah, USA the.meisners@comcast.net Researching: NAK, NAG, NOG, NOK, NACK: Rzeszow, Poland HASENKOPF: Rzeszow, Poland WEINMANN: Rzeszow, Poland GRAU, GREY, GROSS, GRAND: Nowy Sacz, Poland Carol Gene Cohen <cgandhc@ont.com> wrote...
I have just found the listing of a cousin of mine >from Wolica
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Searching for family of Dr. Jacob Eduard POLAK (POLLAK)
#austria-czech
Judith Berlowitz <judigenie@...>
Greetings SIGgers,
Do any of you have Jacob Eduard POLAK in your databases? He was born in Morina in 1818 and became personal physician to the Shah of Iran and is considered the pioneer of modern medicine in Iran (see http://www.ams.ac.ir/AIM/0582/0020.pdf). I am wondering if he could be related to my Bernard or Markus POLLAK, born around the same time, or to Joseph POLLAK, born around 1790. Judith Berlowitz Oakland, California Researching (direct ancestors) FISCHL, FRESCHL, GINZBURG, GROENHUT, LEDERER, RICHTER, various Bohemian towns.
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Jewish citizenship
#austria-czech
robert fraser <robertandginafraser@...>
Hi Siggers -
We're all well aware of the various Toleranzpatents issued by the Hapsburgs affecting the civil rights of Jews resident in their realms, but I'm just wondering at what point did the Jews of Austria, CZ etc actually achieve full citizenship? Shabbat shalom Robert Fraser Dianella, Western Australia robertandginafraser@iinet.net.au Researching: NOWAK - Moravia/Austria; EISINGER - Moravia and the World FINKELSTEIN - Galicia; NAGEL - Moravia/Austria KRAUTERBLUTH - ? Galicia Member of JHGS of Western Australia
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Searching for family of Dr. Jacob Eduard POLAK (POLLAK)
#austria-czech
Judith Berlowitz <judigenie@...>
Greetings SIGgers,
Do any of you have Jacob Eduard POLAK in your databases? He was born in Morina in 1818 and became personal physician to the Shah of Iran and is considered the pioneer of modern medicine in Iran (see http://www.ams.ac.ir/AIM/0582/0020.pdf). I am wondering if he could be related to my Bernard or Markus POLLAK, born around the same time, or to Joseph POLLAK, born around 1790. Judith Berlowitz Oakland, California Researching (direct ancestors) FISCHL, FRESCHL, GINZBURG, GROENHUT, LEDERER, RICHTER, various Bohemian towns.
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Jewish citizenship
#austria-czech
robert fraser <robertandginafraser@...>
Hi Siggers -
We're all well aware of the various Toleranzpatents issued by the Hapsburgs affecting the civil rights of Jews resident in their realms, but I'm just wondering at what point did the Jews of Austria, CZ etc actually achieve full citizenship? Shabbat shalom Robert Fraser Dianella, Western Australia robertandginafraser@iinet.net.au Researching: NOWAK - Moravia/Austria; EISINGER - Moravia and the World FINKELSTEIN - Galicia; NAGEL - Moravia/Austria KRAUTERBLUTH - ? Galicia Member of JHGS of Western Australia
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