re Italo Svevo of Trieste
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Celia Male <celiamale@...>
I originally wrote: "How/why does a writer chose their special nom de plume?
That is a question I pondered on when I discovered today that the real name of Alberto Moravia, the Italian novelist and writer, was actually PINCHERLE." Jules Levin replied: "You may add to the puzzle the Italian Jewish writer Italo Svevo >from Trieste. His real name was Schmidt. Trieste, part of Austria, seems to have been an entry point into Italy for Ashkenazi Jews." I admire the works of Italo Svevo that I have heard broadcast but apart >from my basic general knowledge - Jewish - Trieste - James Joyce - nom de plume - I have never seriously looked into his background. Imagine my surprise when I read this: " Italo Svevo born in Trieste .... a well-to-do Jewish family as one of seven sons of Francesco and Allegra SCHMITZ. Svevo's mother, Allegra ***MORAVIA***, came >from an Italian Jewish family of Trieste; his father was of German descent, the son of an Austrian customs official. We seem to have hit on a literary MORAVIA cluster in that part of the world. Sorry, I made a stupid slip yesterday - it was obviously Alberto's PINCHERLE's {aka Moravia} paternal grandmother who was a MORAVIA, not his grandfather! Michael Bernet and Nick Landau both corrected me. Thanks So as well as the all-round gifted PINCHERLEs we now have to reckon with the literary genes of the MORAVIA family. I am beginning to wonder if MORAVIA was an Italianisation of MORAWETZ or a related name. Surely there must be some family trees around - it is not that long ago? Celia Male [U.K.]
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re Italo Svevo of Trieste
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Celia Male <celiamale@...>
I originally wrote: "How/why does a writer chose their special nom de plume?
That is a question I pondered on when I discovered today that the real name of Alberto Moravia, the Italian novelist and writer, was actually PINCHERLE." Jules Levin replied: "You may add to the puzzle the Italian Jewish writer Italo Svevo >from Trieste. His real name was Schmidt. Trieste, part of Austria, seems to have been an entry point into Italy for Ashkenazi Jews." I admire the works of Italo Svevo that I have heard broadcast but apart >from my basic general knowledge - Jewish - Trieste - James Joyce - nom de plume - I have never seriously looked into his background. Imagine my surprise when I read this: " Italo Svevo born in Trieste .... a well-to-do Jewish family as one of seven sons of Francesco and Allegra SCHMITZ. Svevo's mother, Allegra ***MORAVIA***, came >from an Italian Jewish family of Trieste; his father was of German descent, the son of an Austrian customs official. We seem to have hit on a literary MORAVIA cluster in that part of the world. Sorry, I made a stupid slip yesterday - it was obviously Alberto's PINCHERLE's {aka Moravia} paternal grandmother who was a MORAVIA, not his grandfather! Michael Bernet and Nick Landau both corrected me. Thanks So as well as the all-round gifted PINCHERLEs we now have to reckon with the literary genes of the MORAVIA family. I am beginning to wonder if MORAVIA was an Italianisation of MORAWETZ or a related name. Surely there must be some family trees around - it is not that long ago? Celia Male [U.K.]
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Town Help- Lissa, Breslau, Krisehland, Bohlxxx? of the mid-1800's
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BRENERDA@...
I posted on this about six months ago. Maybe there are some new ideas out
there. The person whose birth town I seek to identify is Lena HOFFMAN CLARKE (1849-1922). She cam to the United States about 1855 the daughter of George HOFFMAN (1820-1903) and Carrie HEINIG. Carrie must have died, as the wife of George that made the trip was Fannie LOEB HOFFMAN (1820-1913). (The sharp among you will remember I posted for possible HOFFMAN alternative names to find on a passenger list. Thanks for all the suggestions, but no gold ring yet!) I have two death certificates with town information on them. Lena's in 1922 says her birth town is Lissa, Germany. This Lissa could be two towns in Poland now known as Leszno (Leshno) 51.51 Lat and 16.35 Lon or Lesnicia of Deutsch Lissa 51.41 and 15.02. This I learned >from responses to a previous posting. The death certificate of her half-brother in 1925 (He did not provide information for Lena) said his mother (not Lena's mother) was >from what looks like Krisehland and in smaller print, last letters not readable is "Bohlxxx". I am trying to identify the town. Possibly Bohland To help tie together or confuse, George HOFFMAN was possibly (? on above certificate after the town) in Breslau now Wroclaw, Poland 51.10 and 17.033. What is or was Krisehland Bohlxxx given that he should be somewhat close to one of the Lissas and Breslau. As always, I appreciate the help I get. David Brener, Fargo, ND
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Town Help- Lissa, Breslau, Krisehland, Bohlxxx? of the mid-1800's
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BRENERDA@...
I posted on this about six months ago. Maybe there are some new ideas out
there. The person whose birth town I seek to identify is Lena HOFFMAN CLARKE (1849-1922). She cam to the United States about 1855 the daughter of George HOFFMAN (1820-1903) and Carrie HEINIG. Carrie must have died, as the wife of George that made the trip was Fannie LOEB HOFFMAN (1820-1913). (The sharp among you will remember I posted for possible HOFFMAN alternative names to find on a passenger list. Thanks for all the suggestions, but no gold ring yet!) I have two death certificates with town information on them. Lena's in 1922 says her birth town is Lissa, Germany. This Lissa could be two towns in Poland now known as Leszno (Leshno) 51.51 Lat and 16.35 Lon or Lesnicia of Deutsch Lissa 51.41 and 15.02. This I learned >from responses to a previous posting. The death certificate of her half-brother in 1925 (He did not provide information for Lena) said his mother (not Lena's mother) was >from what looks like Krisehland and in smaller print, last letters not readable is "Bohlxxx". I am trying to identify the town. Possibly Bohland To help tie together or confuse, George HOFFMAN was possibly (? on above certificate after the town) in Breslau now Wroclaw, Poland 51.10 and 17.033. What is or was Krisehland Bohlxxx given that he should be somewhat close to one of the Lissas and Breslau. As always, I appreciate the help I get. David Brener, Fargo, ND
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Researching Ancestor: Zelda (FAIKES) SEGAL
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sacredsisters3@aol.com <sacredsisters3@...>
Hi
I am trying to do my family tree on my grandfather's Faikes family. I am trying to trace all the siblings, at least the ones i know of. I have an obit on Jennie(Faikes)Frankel who died in Philadelphia in 1959 and it lists a surviving sister as Zelda(Faikes)Segal. Can anyone help me find out what happened to Zelda and hopefully find any descendants of both her and Jennie. Zelda was Born about 1889-90 and her sister jennie in 1891. They were born in Brest-Litovisk, which may have been both a part of Russia & Poland depending on the time frame. My grandfather probably the last surviving sibling is about 93 and is in a nursing home. His name is Milton Faikes. The other siblings names I have are David & Mark/Marco Faikes. Those two immigrated to Argentina, lived and died there. There is also a sibling named Yankiel/Joseph and he stayed in Poland/Russia I believe. Their parents names were Berel Faikes & Rywa Lemberg. Please contact me if you have any information at all. I need all the help I can get. Sarah Greenberg(USA) sacredsisters3@aol.com
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Researching Ancestor: Zelda (FAIKES) SEGAL
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sacredsisters3@aol.com <sacredsisters3@...>
Hi
I am trying to do my family tree on my grandfather's Faikes family. I am trying to trace all the siblings, at least the ones i know of. I have an obit on Jennie(Faikes)Frankel who died in Philadelphia in 1959 and it lists a surviving sister as Zelda(Faikes)Segal. Can anyone help me find out what happened to Zelda and hopefully find any descendants of both her and Jennie. Zelda was Born about 1889-90 and her sister jennie in 1891. They were born in Brest-Litovisk, which may have been both a part of Russia & Poland depending on the time frame. My grandfather probably the last surviving sibling is about 93 and is in a nursing home. His name is Milton Faikes. The other siblings names I have are David & Mark/Marco Faikes. Those two immigrated to Argentina, lived and died there. There is also a sibling named Yankiel/Joseph and he stayed in Poland/Russia I believe. Their parents names were Berel Faikes & Rywa Lemberg. Please contact me if you have any information at all. I need all the help I can get. Sarah Greenberg(USA) sacredsisters3@aol.com
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Enroll Now – January 2007 Basic Genealogy Course
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phylliskramer1@att.net <phylliskramer1@...>
Well, we’ve done it. Student response to the first JewishGen Basic Genealogy
course was so great it gave us just what we need to hear to offer it again! This course is geared to Beginners and consists of eight weekly lessons which you can download (.pdf or WORD). It covers genealogy forms & formats; assembling family trees; organizing and tracking information; interviewing; Jewish naming conventions; U.S. vital records, U.S. Census and U.S. passenger manifests and; using the JewishGen website and databases. We will also share hints and tips on how to best use your computer and the Internet. All classes offer individualized help through an online Forum where you can post your questions, family information and photographs. The Basic Genealogy course will be scheduled quarterly January, April, July and October. The Intermediate course, scheduled for late 2007, will cover more advanced topics. We are also staffing Advanced level courses in historical Research by Country, Genealogical Software, and Genetics, and we hope to have some of these courses available in multiple languages. Big goals. Big plans. The tuition for Basic Genealogy is $36, however, if you qualify for the value added services by virtue of a $100 annual donation, you are welcome to enroll at no additional charge (to do so, send a note, with your JewishGen ID, to Jewishgen-Education-Support@lyris.jewishgen.org). To enroll, go to http://www.jewishgen.org/education, select the Basic Genealogy Course which begins January 1, 2007. Details of the course, background of the instructor and the requirements are on line. You will be able to pay for the course online by credit card or by check drawn on a U.S. bank, at our secure server. Hope you can join us. Phyllis Kramer, Vice President JewishGen Education
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Enroll Now – January 2007 Basic Genealogy Course
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phylliskramer1@att.net <phylliskramer1@...>
Well, we’ve done it. Student response to the first JewishGen Basic Genealogy
course was so great it gave us just what we need to hear to offer it again! This course is geared to Beginners and consists of eight weekly lessons which you can download (.pdf or WORD). It covers genealogy forms & formats; assembling family trees; organizing and tracking information; interviewing; Jewish naming conventions; U.S. vital records, U.S. Census and U.S. passenger manifests and; using the JewishGen website and databases. We will also share hints and tips on how to best use your computer and the Internet. All classes offer individualized help through an online Forum where you can post your questions, family information and photographs. The Basic Genealogy course will be scheduled quarterly January, April, July and October. The Intermediate course, scheduled for late 2007, will cover more advanced topics. We are also staffing Advanced level courses in historical Research by Country, Genealogical Software, and Genetics, and we hope to have some of these courses available in multiple languages. Big goals. Big plans. The tuition for Basic Genealogy is $36, however, if you qualify for the value added services by virtue of a $100 annual donation, you are welcome to enroll at no additional charge (to do so, send a note, with your JewishGen ID, to Jewishgen-Education-Support@lyris.jewishgen.org). To enroll, go to http://www.jewishgen.org/education, select the Basic Genealogy Course which begins January 1, 2007. Details of the course, background of the instructor and the requirements are on line. You will be able to pay for the course online by credit card or by check drawn on a U.S. bank, at our secure server. Hope you can join us. Phyllis Kramer, Vice President JewishGen Education
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KUKLINSKY/LEVENTHAL/NEWMAN in Utica, NY
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Janette Silverman <jsilverman@...>
Over the years I have read many postings >from genners talking about
their successes, which generally energize me to start looking harder at those seemingly dead ends I encounter in my research. Today I had an amazing encounter that I want to share. I have been searching for quite a while for my partner's family. We started with very bare bones information - there were three Jewish boys, brothers with the last name of Clinton who were orphaned around 1908 in Canada (although they had been born upstate NY). Somehow they wound up attracting the attention of a Jewish philanthropist in Detroit who brought them back to the States. Thanks to help >from so many of you, persistence, and new information being made available on line all the time, I was able to find that their father's name was Samuel KUKLINSKY, their mother was Fanny LEVENTHAL, that Fanny and her brother Abraham and Samuel all immigrated to the US in 1893/4, that Samuel and Fannie got married around 1894 and were living in Newburgh, NY by 1900, that one of their sons was born in Utica, NY and another in Buffalo, NY, and that at some point after the 1900 census their last name was changed to CLINTON. I was unable to find any earlier information beyond that - although I tried to find additional immigration, marriage, naturalization and birth certificates to no avail. I have also been unable to find out what happened to either Fannie or Samuel although we do know what happened to the 3 boys after 1910. Then, one day I wrote a note to the Jewish Federation in Utica asking if there was anyone there who might know of this family. I got a phone call a couple of days later >from a gentleman living in Utica who said that he had a childhood friend whose last name was Leventhal. His friend's elderly mother, Ann, (daughter-in-law of an Abraham Leventhal) was still alive (and coincidentally lives not too far from where we live in Arizona!). I wrote her a letter, she phoned me,and said that her father-in-law had had no siblings and her husband had had no cousins. I was disappointed, but I have hit dead ends before. The Federation in Utica sent me a book on the history of the Jews in Utica and although it contained information and names of lots of people, there didn't seem to be any other Leventhals in Utica, nor were there any Kuklinskys. Today, I got a call >from Ann who didn't remember our original conversation (she had a stroke a while back and her memory is inconsistent) but who wanted to talk to me about her father-in-law's nephews named Clinton who lived in Detroit - this was my partner's grandfather and uncles!!!! I hope to be able to visit with her next week and to be able to gather more information then, but I was so excited I just had to share. Ann also gave me the name of a Fanny NEWMAN who had a few sons, one of whom was Sam - this family also lived in Utica and were relatives of her father-in-law!!! Thank you everyone for all the help you have given me! Janette Silverman Phoenix, AZ
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen KUKLINSKY/LEVENTHAL/NEWMAN in Utica, NY
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Janette Silverman <jsilverman@...>
Over the years I have read many postings >from genners talking about
their successes, which generally energize me to start looking harder at those seemingly dead ends I encounter in my research. Today I had an amazing encounter that I want to share. I have been searching for quite a while for my partner's family. We started with very bare bones information - there were three Jewish boys, brothers with the last name of Clinton who were orphaned around 1908 in Canada (although they had been born upstate NY). Somehow they wound up attracting the attention of a Jewish philanthropist in Detroit who brought them back to the States. Thanks to help >from so many of you, persistence, and new information being made available on line all the time, I was able to find that their father's name was Samuel KUKLINSKY, their mother was Fanny LEVENTHAL, that Fanny and her brother Abraham and Samuel all immigrated to the US in 1893/4, that Samuel and Fannie got married around 1894 and were living in Newburgh, NY by 1900, that one of their sons was born in Utica, NY and another in Buffalo, NY, and that at some point after the 1900 census their last name was changed to CLINTON. I was unable to find any earlier information beyond that - although I tried to find additional immigration, marriage, naturalization and birth certificates to no avail. I have also been unable to find out what happened to either Fannie or Samuel although we do know what happened to the 3 boys after 1910. Then, one day I wrote a note to the Jewish Federation in Utica asking if there was anyone there who might know of this family. I got a phone call a couple of days later >from a gentleman living in Utica who said that he had a childhood friend whose last name was Leventhal. His friend's elderly mother, Ann, (daughter-in-law of an Abraham Leventhal) was still alive (and coincidentally lives not too far from where we live in Arizona!). I wrote her a letter, she phoned me,and said that her father-in-law had had no siblings and her husband had had no cousins. I was disappointed, but I have hit dead ends before. The Federation in Utica sent me a book on the history of the Jews in Utica and although it contained information and names of lots of people, there didn't seem to be any other Leventhals in Utica, nor were there any Kuklinskys. Today, I got a call >from Ann who didn't remember our original conversation (she had a stroke a while back and her memory is inconsistent) but who wanted to talk to me about her father-in-law's nephews named Clinton who lived in Detroit - this was my partner's grandfather and uncles!!!! I hope to be able to visit with her next week and to be able to gather more information then, but I was so excited I just had to share. Ann also gave me the name of a Fanny NEWMAN who had a few sons, one of whom was Sam - this family also lived in Utica and were relatives of her father-in-law!!! Thank you everyone for all the help you have given me! Janette Silverman Phoenix, AZ
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Seeking descendants of Yosef GRINBERG/GREENBURG - Herta, Romania 1886
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sacredsisters3@aol.com <sacredsisters3@...>
Hello All
I am seeking any and all descendants of Yosef GRINBERG/GREENBURG. He was born in Herta, Romania in 1886. His parents were Khaim & Perel according to Page Of Testimony. The information was submitted by a surviving daughter(Shvartz,Khava) back in 1976. I have had someone try and trace the whereabouts of this woman. I was told that the woman may have died in a nursing home in Israel, and thats as much information that could be found. I of course did not hold out too much hope since it was submitted over 20 years ago. I am hoping to maybe find the surviving daughters family in hopes of getting more information on this person/ancestor of theirs who died in the shoah. I am hoping to find a connection to my great-grandfather who was Abraham Adolph Greenberg, who was also born in Herta and his parents also were Khaim & Perel. So, if you are descended from Greenberg's >from Herta-Dorohoi, Romania please contact me especially if any of this sounds familiar. To give you a little background Information, my great-grandfather came to New York In 1907, married Minnie Markowitz and had six kids. Sarah Greenberg(USA) sacredsisters3@aol.com
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking descendants of Yosef GRINBERG/GREENBURG - Herta, Romania 1886
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sacredsisters3@aol.com <sacredsisters3@...>
Hello All
I am seeking any and all descendants of Yosef GRINBERG/GREENBURG. He was born in Herta, Romania in 1886. His parents were Khaim & Perel according to Page Of Testimony. The information was submitted by a surviving daughter(Shvartz,Khava) back in 1976. I have had someone try and trace the whereabouts of this woman. I was told that the woman may have died in a nursing home in Israel, and thats as much information that could be found. I of course did not hold out too much hope since it was submitted over 20 years ago. I am hoping to maybe find the surviving daughters family in hopes of getting more information on this person/ancestor of theirs who died in the shoah. I am hoping to find a connection to my great-grandfather who was Abraham Adolph Greenberg, who was also born in Herta and his parents also were Khaim & Perel. So, if you are descended from Greenberg's >from Herta-Dorohoi, Romania please contact me especially if any of this sounds familiar. To give you a little background Information, my great-grandfather came to New York In 1907, married Minnie Markowitz and had six kids. Sarah Greenberg(USA) sacredsisters3@aol.com
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Re: Origin of PINCHERLE of Italy
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Jules Levin
You may add to the puzzle the Italian Jewish writer Italo Svevo >from I forgot to mention the most important connection! Svevo means 'Swabian' in Italian! Jules Levin
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Origin of PINCHERLE of Italy
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Jules Levin
You may add to the puzzle the Italian Jewish writer Italo Svevo >from I forgot to mention the most important connection! Svevo means 'Swabian' in Italian! Jules Levin
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Searching for ancestors in Russia, pre-1895
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Jslevey@...
I have ancestors apparently >from the town Korni, located in Russia (not far
from Astrakhan, which has/had a Jewish community). They migrated to the US(NYC) in 1890-1891. The family names I'm searching for are ROTHBERG, FLAXMAN, LEVY and BOZES. The records on the JewishGen databases appear to be too "recent". Anyone have any ideas as to where I might find something. Is this a FHL type quest or might there be other ways to find records of these families? Regards, Janette Levey Frisch Searching for: Bozes, Flaxman, Levy and Rothberg >from Korni, Russia; Eisenberg and Milmud/Melamed in Ozeryany, Ukraine (formerly Galicia); Abramovitz/wich, Mandel and Lapidus >from Nizhyn, Ukaraine (formerly in Russian Empire); Woolf in Konin, Poland and London, UK; Caro and Cohen >from Kleczew, Poland (formerly part of Prussia?); Levi/y >from Warszawa area and Birmingham, UK; Wilder, Bernhaut, Schlosser >from Krakow; Richter/Rechter, Gottesmann >from Bolekhov, Ukraine (formerly in Galicia).
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for ancestors in Russia, pre-1895
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Jslevey@...
I have ancestors apparently >from the town Korni, located in Russia (not far
from Astrakhan, which has/had a Jewish community). They migrated to the US(NYC) in 1890-1891. The family names I'm searching for are ROTHBERG, FLAXMAN, LEVY and BOZES. The records on the JewishGen databases appear to be too "recent". Anyone have any ideas as to where I might find something. Is this a FHL type quest or might there be other ways to find records of these families? Regards, Janette Levey Frisch Searching for: Bozes, Flaxman, Levy and Rothberg >from Korni, Russia; Eisenberg and Milmud/Melamed in Ozeryany, Ukraine (formerly Galicia); Abramovitz/wich, Mandel and Lapidus >from Nizhyn, Ukaraine (formerly in Russian Empire); Woolf in Konin, Poland and London, UK; Caro and Cohen >from Kleczew, Poland (formerly part of Prussia?); Levi/y >from Warszawa area and Birmingham, UK; Wilder, Bernhaut, Schlosser >from Krakow; Richter/Rechter, Gottesmann >from Bolekhov, Ukraine (formerly in Galicia).
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Re: Lauer=Levi?
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Celia Male <celiamale@...>
There are 21 LAUER buried in Vienna - most appear to be of Galician origin.
Were I there, I would look at some of the graves for clues. Knowing the tendency for name changes in Vienna, I would not be at all surprised if they were originally either LOEWY, LEVI or variants. These two particularly caught my eye: LAUER-JAKUBESTIER Salomon age 55 buried 27.11.1913 Zentralfriedhof Gate 1 50-33-32A LAUER Baby age 78!!! buried 23.05.1923 Zentralfriedhof Gate 1 52-21-7 However, checking jri-pl and the Galician pages I find 120 LAUER already listed - mostly in the late 1800s, but there one or two >from the 1850s; so the name change apparently took place pre the migration to Vienna. Checking up on Yad vashem gives a good idea of the name distribution of the victims, we remember here today - mainly >from Carpathian Ruthenia, Romania and Galicia. Celia Male [U.K.]
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Lauer=Levi?
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Celia Male <celiamale@...>
There are 21 LAUER buried in Vienna - most appear to be of Galician origin.
Were I there, I would look at some of the graves for clues. Knowing the tendency for name changes in Vienna, I would not be at all surprised if they were originally either LOEWY, LEVI or variants. These two particularly caught my eye: LAUER-JAKUBESTIER Salomon age 55 buried 27.11.1913 Zentralfriedhof Gate 1 50-33-32A LAUER Baby age 78!!! buried 23.05.1923 Zentralfriedhof Gate 1 52-21-7 However, checking jri-pl and the Galician pages I find 120 LAUER already listed - mostly in the late 1800s, but there one or two >from the 1850s; so the name change apparently took place pre the migration to Vienna. Checking up on Yad vashem gives a good idea of the name distribution of the victims, we remember here today - mainly >from Carpathian Ruthenia, Romania and Galicia. Celia Male [U.K.]
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Holocaust photo
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Israel P
An undefined relative recently wrote to me saying "There is a famous
picture amongst the [H]olocaust literature which shows Hlinka guards cutting the beard of a [C]hassidish Jew. He was...Lippa Wolfstater a first cousin of my mother." Does anyone happen to have this photo or know of its availability online. (Yes, I know I can go to Yad VaShem and look for it, but I am looking for something easier, if possible.) Israel Pickholtz
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Holocaust photo
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Israel P
An undefined relative recently wrote to me saying "There is a famous
picture amongst the [H]olocaust literature which shows Hlinka guards cutting the beard of a [C]hassidish Jew. He was...Lippa Wolfstater a first cousin of my mother." Does anyone happen to have this photo or know of its availability online. (Yes, I know I can go to Yad VaShem and look for it, but I am looking for something easier, if possible.) Israel Pickholtz
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