Dear GERSIGers,
once again I was able to update my website with a few more name adoption
lists. You will find:

Mainz 1808 www.a-h-b.de/AHB/Listen/Mainz.htm

Obermoschel 1808 www.a-h-b.de/AHB/Listen/Obermoschel.htm

Niederursel including Obererlenbach www.a-h-b.de/AHB/Listen/Niederursel.htm

and Igersheim 1824 under www.a-h-b.de/AHB/Listen/Igersheim.htm

More lists can be found under www.A-H-B.de/AHB/links_e.htm

Thanks to Hanna Goldmann who sent the lists.

Wolfgang Fritzsche, prof. genealogist, Germany near Mainz and Wiesbaden

Dear GERSIGers,
once again I was able to update my website with a few more name adoption
lists. You will find:

Mainz 1808 www.a-h-b.de/AHB/Listen/Mainz.htm

Obermoschel 1808 www.a-h-b.de/AHB/Listen/Obermoschel.htm

Niederursel including Obererlenbach www.a-h-b.de/AHB/Listen/Niederursel.htm

and Igersheim 1824 under www.a-h-b.de/AHB/Listen/Igersheim.htm

More lists can be found under www.A-H-B.de/AHB/links_e.htm

Thanks to Hanna Goldmann who sent the lists.

Wolfgang Fritzsche, prof. genealogist, Germany near Mainz and Wiesbaden

The AMIA website of Argentine cemeteries
http://www.amia.org.ar/difuntos.asp
returns following entries:

Berazategui cemetery:
LOEWENSBERG ALICIA nee BLUM 21/9/1979

Liniers cemetery:
LOWENSBERG ERNESTO LOTARIO 8/5/2003

Tablada cemetery:
ALTSTADLER SAMUEL WASSERTROCH 19/1/1956
ALTSTADLER JACOBO 4/2/1933
ALTSTATTER JACOBO 18/7/1992
FRANK EDDA nee LOWENSBERG 10/10/1974
GOLINSKI MARGARITA nee LOEWENBERG 1/10/1957
KLIPPEL MARIA nee ALTSTATTER 9/6/2003
LOEWENBACH HERMAN JOSE 13/4/1960
LOEWENBERG ERICO 17/2/1967
LOEWENBERG FRITZ 3/9/1958
LOWENBERG DENNY 8/10/1957
LOWENSBERG CARLOS 2/12/1976
LOWENSBERG HEDWIG nee ADLER 23/11/1993
LOWENSBERG HELLMUTH 6/9/1972
LOWENSBERG LEOPOLDO 20/4/2001
LOWENSBERG SARA ELSA STRAUSS 5/4/1982
LOWENSBERG SETTE SARA nee HEIMANN 30/7/1943

The date shown after each name is the date of burial.

Kind regards Marcelo Rosenbaum - Stockport, UK marcelo@roferma.demon.co.uk

The AMIA website of Argentine cemeteries
http://www.amia.org.ar/difuntos.asp
returns following entries:

Berazategui cemetery:
LOEWENSBERG ALICIA nee BLUM 21/9/1979

Liniers cemetery:
LOWENSBERG ERNESTO LOTARIO 8/5/2003

Tablada cemetery:
ALTSTADLER SAMUEL WASSERTROCH 19/1/1956
ALTSTADLER JACOBO 4/2/1933
ALTSTATTER JACOBO 18/7/1992
FRANK EDDA nee LOWENSBERG 10/10/1974
GOLINSKI MARGARITA nee LOEWENBERG 1/10/1957
KLIPPEL MARIA nee ALTSTATTER 9/6/2003
LOEWENBACH HERMAN JOSE 13/4/1960
LOEWENBERG ERICO 17/2/1967
LOEWENBERG FRITZ 3/9/1958
LOWENBERG DENNY 8/10/1957
LOWENSBERG CARLOS 2/12/1976
LOWENSBERG HEDWIG nee ADLER 23/11/1993
LOWENSBERG HELLMUTH 6/9/1972
LOWENSBERG LEOPOLDO 20/4/2001
LOWENSBERG SARA ELSA STRAUSS 5/4/1982
LOWENSBERG SETTE SARA nee HEIMANN 30/7/1943

The date shown after each name is the date of burial.

Kind regards Marcelo Rosenbaum - Stockport, UK marcelo@roferma.demon.co.uk

Hello Dear GerSIGers,

It's a pity that the Yad Vashem online database is not featuring
anything for genealogists but nevertheless going to the Yad Vashem
excellent online database:
http://www.yadvashem.org/lwp/workplace/
and typing in the Family /Maiden Name: > Altstaedter < yields some
ninety results with a few matching your research.

e.g. Grete Sondheim nee Altstadter was born in Weinheim, Germany in
1901 to Natan. She was married to Herman. Prior to WWII she lived in
Frankfurt On the main, Germany. During the war was in Frankfurt On the
main, Germany. Grete perished in. This information is based on a Page
of Testimony (displayed on left) submitted on 10/02/1983 by her brother.
Typing on more details will show you the details of the brother Hans
living in Herzlia, Israel.

I'm just sending that example to the list for people researching some
names to be aware of the aforementioned online database querying even
the maiden name.
Querying the Family of the Jewish People yields some 51 hits. Hans
Altstaedter is apparently no more alive sine 1992. But you will get
another hit for an Alstaedter >from Weinheim [German postal code] 69469.

mit freundlichen Gruessen

Salomon Moyal Bloch, Zuerich, Switzerland LesMoyaux@GMail.com

Gerhard Solomon wrote:

Hello Dear GerSIGers,

It's a pity that the Yad Vashem online database is not featuring
anything for genealogists but nevertheless going to the Yad Vashem
excellent online database:
http://www.yadvashem.org/lwp/workplace/
and typing in the Family /Maiden Name: > Altstaedter < yields some
ninety results with a few matching your research.

e.g. Grete Sondheim nee Altstadter was born in Weinheim, Germany in
1901 to Natan. She was married to Herman. Prior to WWII she lived in
Frankfurt On the main, Germany. During the war was in Frankfurt On the
main, Germany. Grete perished in. This information is based on a Page
of Testimony (displayed on left) submitted on 10/02/1983 by her brother.
Typing on more details will show you the details of the brother Hans
living in Herzlia, Israel.

I'm just sending that example to the list for people researching some
names to be aware of the aforementioned online database querying even
the maiden name.
Querying the Family of the Jewish People yields some 51 hits. Hans
Altstaedter is apparently no more alive sine 1992. But you will get
another hit for an Alstaedter >from Weinheim [German postal code] 69469.

mit freundlichen Gruessen

Salomon Moyal Bloch, Zuerich, Switzerland LesMoyaux@GMail.com

Gerhard Solomon wrote:

In 1841, Simon Josef (10.02.1770 - 16.06.1848) adopted the family name
ALTSTAEDTER in Medenbach, now part of Wiesbaden. The name was derived >from the
village, in which he was born: Altstadt, now part of Hachenburg (Westerwald).
There his relatives adopted the family name ROSENAU. Since Simon had only three
daughters, the name Altstaedter disappeared in this family with his death.

Gerhard Buck, Idstein, Germany buckidstein@aol.com

In 1841, Simon Josef (10.02.1770 - 16.06.1848) adopted the family name
ALTSTAEDTER in Medenbach, now part of Wiesbaden. The name was derived >from the
village, in which he was born: Altstadt, now part of Hachenburg (Westerwald).
There his relatives adopted the family name ROSENAU. Since Simon had only three
daughters, the name Altstaedter disappeared in this family with his death.

Gerhard Buck, Idstein, Germany buckidstein@aol.com

I assume you don't have a lead to a New York lawyer who could request it.

If you have the ability to send someone to the local courthouse (in
this case probably the Surrogate's Court in White Plains), they might
discover a probate file which may contain the death certificate, or
in any event might discover the names of heirs or next of kin, which
could provide further leads.

It is remotely possible that you could find a kind soul in the
courthouse who could tell you over the telephone if the file exists,
and permit you to request copies by mail.

Don

I assume you don't have a lead to a New York lawyer who could request it.

If you have the ability to send someone to the local courthouse (in
this case probably the Surrogate's Court in White Plains), they might
discover a probate file which may contain the death certificate, or
in any event might discover the names of heirs or next of kin, which
could provide further leads.

It is remotely possible that you could find a kind soul in the
courthouse who could tell you over the telephone if the file exists,
and permit you to request copies by mail.

Don

Dear Cousins,

I replied privately already to Sandra Greenberg, who posed the question
how to get New York State death certificates before 50 years have elapsed,
but since this may be useful to others, I'm posting a public response.

New York State regulations make it almost impossible to get death
certificates >from the Department of Health in Albany, unless you're a
lawyer or descendant of the deceased, can prove it, and have a need for a
death certificate, such as to claim assets. Genealogy is not a valid
reason to them, for the first 50 years.

But if the death occurred in New York City, then the death certificate
is filed with the City Department of Health, which is a different entity

from the State Department of Health and is a bit more accommodating.

Although genealogy is not a valid reason for them either, their criteria
for releasing a death certificate are not as strict. For instance, on
their application I have twice written cousin as my relationship to the
deceased, and that I want to find out the name of the cemetery where they
were buried to visit the grave as the reason for needing the death
certificate. They accepted these both times, without a problem.

For New York State deaths outside of the five boroughs of New York
City, death certificates can usually be obtained >from the appropriate town
or city clerk. The applications may often (maybe always?) be done on
line. However, this requires knowledge of the location where the death
occurred, since New York State doesn't even publish the index to deaths
for 50 years afterward. Without knowing the location, I have no
suggestion other than to make an educated guess. If you guess wrong, the
town clerk might keep your check as a search fee, or might return it.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.

Dear Cousins,

I replied privately already to Sandra Greenberg, who posed the question
how to get New York State death certificates before 50 years have elapsed,
but since this may be useful to others, I'm posting a public response.

New York State regulations make it almost impossible to get death
certificates >from the Department of Health in Albany, unless you're a
lawyer or descendant of the deceased, can prove it, and have a need for a
death certificate, such as to claim assets. Genealogy is not a valid
reason to them, for the first 50 years.

But if the death occurred in New York City, then the death certificate
is filed with the City Department of Health, which is a different entity

from the State Department of Health and is a bit more accommodating.

Although genealogy is not a valid reason for them either, their criteria
for releasing a death certificate are not as strict. For instance, on
their application I have twice written cousin as my relationship to the
deceased, and that I want to find out the name of the cemetery where they
were buried to visit the grave as the reason for needing the death
certificate. They accepted these both times, without a problem.

For New York State deaths outside of the five boroughs of New York
City, death certificates can usually be obtained >from the appropriate town
or city clerk. The applications may often (maybe always?) be done on
line. However, this requires knowledge of the location where the death
occurred, since New York State doesn't even publish the index to deaths
for 50 years afterward. Without knowing the location, I have no
suggestion other than to make an educated guess. If you guess wrong, the
town clerk might keep your check as a search fee, or might return it.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.

Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me read lines 5 & 6 on this
1920 US Census:

http://static.flickr.com/24/102006813_3152b4fa8b_o.jpg

Thanks,
Elliott Malkin
New York City

Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me read lines 5 & 6 on this
1920 US Census:

http://static.flickr.com/24/102006813_3152b4fa8b_o.jpg

Thanks,
Elliott Malkin
New York City

From: anita benson [mailto:anita.benson@virgin.net]
Sent: 04 December 2006 17:01
To: JGSGB Online Discussion Group
Subject: [jgsgb-discuss] Nunes/martines (Martin) & Mendez family trees

Dear Group Members

I wonder if any one could clarify a note I have concerning a marriage
between Abraham Martin b.1765 M Bevis Marks 1784 to Rachel Mendes daughter of Isaac Mendes and Rebecca the note says
married originally in Portugal, if any one has this tree could they tell me
who was actually married in Portugal as I am now confused as to which couple
it is referring to.

If one of these marriages had taken place in Portugal am I correct in saying
it would have taken place in a catholic church as a Christian wedding. where
could I find out where the wedding in Portugal actually took place would
Bevis Marks have this information? This would be exciting as it might tell
me where in Portugal the family or part of it originated from.

Kind regards

Anita Benson
London England


Researching Hart, Martin Nunes Martines, Lee, de Silva, Simmonds/Simmons all
London

From: anita benson [mailto:anita.benson@virgin.net]
Sent: 04 December 2006 17:01
To: JGSGB Online Discussion Group
Subject: [jgsgb-discuss] Nunes/martines (Martin) & Mendez family trees

Dear Group Members

I wonder if any one could clarify a note I have concerning a marriage
between Abraham Martin b.1765 M Bevis Marks 1784 to Rachel Mendes daughter of Isaac Mendes and Rebecca the note says
married originally in Portugal, if any one has this tree could they tell me
who was actually married in Portugal as I am now confused as to which couple
it is referring to.

If one of these marriages had taken place in Portugal am I correct in saying
it would have taken place in a catholic church as a Christian wedding. where
could I find out where the wedding in Portugal actually took place would
Bevis Marks have this information? This would be exciting as it might tell
me where in Portugal the family or part of it originated from.

Kind regards

Anita Benson
London England


Researching Hart, Martin Nunes Martines, Lee, de Silva, Simmonds/Simmons all
London

The recent posting on reminder for Call For Papers contained
some errors in the allotted number of words for biographies
and abstracts. We have extended the submission date >from December 15 to
December 31, 2006! We apologize for any inconvenience that our
error caused you. Thank you

Please respond with any questions to Carole Montello, chairperson of
the 2007 Program committee at program@slc2007.org

The 27th Annual Conference on Jewish Genealogy is soliciting papers to
be presented at the conference >from July 15-20, 2007. While the
programming of the lectures/workshops is proceeding at a fast clip, we
have open lecture slots.

We will be happy to consider proposals until December 31, 2006. To be
considered you must submit a 125-word biography and a 125-word abstract
on the Call For Papers located at www.slc2007.org. The program committee
will advise you of our decision by February 1, 2007.

We are looking for topics of wide interest, topics that are new and/or
unique, and in areas of interest not covered by other speakers.

Primary consideration will be to those programs not presented at the
last 3 conferences.

Our preference is for speakers who have done extensive on-line or in
person research in the following areas: Eastern Europe, South America,
& Israel.

Other areas of interest that will be considered are Emigration &/or
Immigration records, specifically >from Hamburg, Bremen, Rotterdam and
Liverpool. Methodology and little used or little known resources will
also be considered for presentation at the conference.

If you have any questions as to subject matter of your presentation
please contact Carole Montello at program@slc2007.org.

The recent posting on reminder for Call For Papers contained
some errors in the allotted number of words for biographies
and abstracts. We have extended the submission date >from December 15 to
December 31, 2006! We apologize for any inconvenience that our
error caused you. Thank you

Please respond with any questions to Carole Montello, chairperson of
the 2007 Program committee at program@slc2007.org

The 27th Annual Conference on Jewish Genealogy is soliciting papers to
be presented at the conference >from July 15-20, 2007. While the
programming of the lectures/workshops is proceeding at a fast clip, we
have open lecture slots.

We will be happy to consider proposals until December 31, 2006. To be
considered you must submit a 125-word biography and a 125-word abstract
on the Call For Papers located at www.slc2007.org. The program committee
will advise you of our decision by February 1, 2007.

We are looking for topics of wide interest, topics that are new and/or
unique, and in areas of interest not covered by other speakers.

Primary consideration will be to those programs not presented at the
last 3 conferences.

Our preference is for speakers who have done extensive on-line or in
person research in the following areas: Eastern Europe, South America,
& Israel.

Other areas of interest that will be considered are Emigration &/or
Immigration records, specifically >from Hamburg, Bremen, Rotterdam and
Liverpool. Methodology and little used or little known resources will
also be considered for presentation at the conference.

If you have any questions as to subject matter of your presentation
please contact Carole Montello at program@slc2007.org.

The recent posting on reminder for Call For Papers contained
some errors in the allotted number of words for biographies
and abstracts. We have extended the submission date >from December 15 to
December 31, 2006! We apologize for any inconvenience that our
error caused you. Thank you

Please respond with any questions to Carole Montello, chairperson of
the 2007 Program committee at program@slc2007.org

The 27th Annual Conference on Jewish Genealogy is soliciting papers to
be presented at the conference >from July 15-20, 2007. While the
programming of the lectures/workshops is proceeding at a fast clip, we
have open lecture slots.

We will be happy to consider proposals until December 31, 2006. To be
considered you must submit a 125-word biography and a 125-word abstract
on the Call For Papers located at www.slc2007.org. The program committee
will advise you of our decision by February 1, 2007.

We are looking for topics of wide interest, topics that are new and/or
unique, and in areas of interest not covered by other speakers.

Primary consideration will be to those programs not presented at the
last 3 conferences.

Our preference is for speakers who have done extensive on-line or in
person research in the following areas: Eastern Europe, South America,
& Israel.

Other areas of interest that will be considered are Emigration &/or
Immigration records, specifically >from Hamburg, Bremen, Rotterdam and
Liverpool. Methodology and little used or little known resources will
also be considered for presentation at the conference.

If you have any questions as to subject matter of your presentation
please contact Carole Montello at program@slc2007.org.

The recent posting on reminder for Call For Papers contained
some errors in the allotted number of words for biographies
and abstracts. We have extended the submission date >from December 15 to
December 31, 2006! We apologize for any inconvenience that our
error caused you. Thank you

Please respond with any questions to Carole Montello, chairperson of
the 2007 Program committee at program@slc2007.org

The 27th Annual Conference on Jewish Genealogy is soliciting papers to
be presented at the conference >from July 15-20, 2007. While the
programming of the lectures/workshops is proceeding at a fast clip, we
have open lecture slots.

We will be happy to consider proposals until December 31, 2006. To be
considered you must submit a 125-word biography and a 125-word abstract
on the Call For Papers located at www.slc2007.org. The program committee
will advise you of our decision by February 1, 2007.

We are looking for topics of wide interest, topics that are new and/or
unique, and in areas of interest not covered by other speakers.

Primary consideration will be to those programs not presented at the
last 3 conferences.

Our preference is for speakers who have done extensive on-line or in
person research in the following areas: Eastern Europe, South America,
& Israel.

Other areas of interest that will be considered are Emigration &/or
Immigration records, specifically >from Hamburg, Bremen, Rotterdam and
Liverpool. Methodology and little used or little known resources will
also be considered for presentation at the conference.

If you have any questions as to subject matter of your presentation
please contact Carole Montello at program@slc2007.org.