MODERATOR NOTE: For new GerSIG members - the FTJP is a searchable collection
of family trees. It is available at the JewishGen website free of charge.
Family Tree of the Jewish People: http://www.jewishgen.org/gedcom/

The message below will become part of the SIG Archives - another
searchable database provided free of charge by JewishGen. Anyone will be
able to search in the SIG archives for any of the family names listed here.

The following message will direct those researchers to the family tree that
has been added to the FTJP.
These free services depend upon your financial donations to JewishGen. ========>

Dear GerSiggers,

I have uploaded an ANSBACHER family tree >from Fuerth (Bavaria) to FTJP.
It contains descendants of Samuel HALL >from Schwaebisch-Hall (born abt.
1700), as far as known to me and is based on personal family sources,
own research and substantial help by Mrs. Gisela Blume in Fuerth (many
thanks to her!).

The ANSBACHER family in Fuerth were merchants and in banking business
with -L.A.ANSBACHER- in Hallstr. 40, later Koenigstr. 383, later
Alexanderstr. 30, business sold around 1893.
Family members migrated to Munich, Frankfurt, France, Switzerland, Great
Britain.

The tree contains following family names:
ABRAHAM -Berlin
ADELSDORFER - Fuerth
ANSBACHER Fuerth, Munich, Frankfurt, Paris (France), Switzerland
BEHRENS/BESSELS -Fuerth
BIENENFELD/BENFIELD -Burgebrach?
KUNREUTHER -Burgebrach
BILLMANN -Fuerth, Munich
DEUTSCH -Paris (France)
DINKELSPIEL -Mannheim
EBERSTADT, Mannheim, Munich
FRAENKEL -Frankfurt
GRELINGER/CREGLINGER? -Fuerth
HALFEN - Fuerth?
ICKELHEIMER -Fuerth
LEBRECHT -Stuttgart
LOEWENSTEIN / Lowenstein o umlaut Stuttgart, Munich, USA, Heidelberg
LEHMANN -Fuerth
MACK -Hagenbach
MAI -Frankfurt
OFFENBACHER -Fuerth
OPPENHEIMER -Munich
ROSENAU -Paris?
ROSENTHAL -Augsburg, Munich
SELIGER -Bayreuth
STEINBERG -Nuremberg?
UTITZ -Fuerth?
WILMERSDOERFER -Fuerth
ZIMMER -Fuerth
ZIRNDORFER -Fuerth, Nuremberg.

Any additions are welcome! Especially I'd be very interested in a
possible connection to the Ansbacher Group in London which has its
origins in Henry Ansbacher & Co Limited, established in the City of
London in 1894 by a young German financier (Henry=Heinrich?, Heinrich
A., son of Samuel A. of Fuerth, later Frankfurt, emigrated to London in
the 1890's).
Links to other ANSBACHER families (f.i. Rabbi Jonas ANSBACHER from
Nuremberg, son of Josef A., with descendants in Great Britain, Australia
and USA, or the descendants of Yehuda ANSBACHER's family >from Wuerzburg,
now Israel) could not be found yet.

Christof Eberstadt Germany <cpa-eberstadt@online.de>

MODERATOR NOTE: For new GerSIG members - the FTJP is a searchable collection
of family trees. It is available at the JewishGen website free of charge.
Family Tree of the Jewish People: http://www.jewishgen.org/gedcom/

The message below will become part of the SIG Archives - another
searchable database provided free of charge by JewishGen. Anyone will be
able to search in the SIG archives for any of the family names listed here.

The following message will direct those researchers to the family tree that
has been added to the FTJP.
These free services depend upon your financial donations to JewishGen. ========>

Dear GerSiggers,

I have uploaded an ANSBACHER family tree >from Fuerth (Bavaria) to FTJP.
It contains descendants of Samuel HALL >from Schwaebisch-Hall (born abt.
1700), as far as known to me and is based on personal family sources,
own research and substantial help by Mrs. Gisela Blume in Fuerth (many
thanks to her!).

The ANSBACHER family in Fuerth were merchants and in banking business
with -L.A.ANSBACHER- in Hallstr. 40, later Koenigstr. 383, later
Alexanderstr. 30, business sold around 1893.
Family members migrated to Munich, Frankfurt, France, Switzerland, Great
Britain.

The tree contains following family names:
ABRAHAM -Berlin
ADELSDORFER - Fuerth
ANSBACHER Fuerth, Munich, Frankfurt, Paris (France), Switzerland
BEHRENS/BESSELS -Fuerth
BIENENFELD/BENFIELD -Burgebrach?
KUNREUTHER -Burgebrach
BILLMANN -Fuerth, Munich
DEUTSCH -Paris (France)
DINKELSPIEL -Mannheim
EBERSTADT, Mannheim, Munich
FRAENKEL -Frankfurt
GRELINGER/CREGLINGER? -Fuerth
HALFEN - Fuerth?
ICKELHEIMER -Fuerth
LEBRECHT -Stuttgart
LOEWENSTEIN / Lowenstein o umlaut Stuttgart, Munich, USA, Heidelberg
LEHMANN -Fuerth
MACK -Hagenbach
MAI -Frankfurt
OFFENBACHER -Fuerth
OPPENHEIMER -Munich
ROSENAU -Paris?
ROSENTHAL -Augsburg, Munich
SELIGER -Bayreuth
STEINBERG -Nuremberg?
UTITZ -Fuerth?
WILMERSDOERFER -Fuerth
ZIMMER -Fuerth
ZIRNDORFER -Fuerth, Nuremberg.

Any additions are welcome! Especially I'd be very interested in a
possible connection to the Ansbacher Group in London which has its
origins in Henry Ansbacher & Co Limited, established in the City of
London in 1894 by a young German financier (Henry=Heinrich?, Heinrich
A., son of Samuel A. of Fuerth, later Frankfurt, emigrated to London in
the 1890's).
Links to other ANSBACHER families (f.i. Rabbi Jonas ANSBACHER from
Nuremberg, son of Josef A., with descendants in Great Britain, Australia
and USA, or the descendants of Yehuda ANSBACHER's family >from Wuerzburg,
now Israel) could not be found yet.

Christof Eberstadt Germany <cpa-eberstadt@online.de>

Hello GerSig,
I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for
1 year. I consider myself to be begininer in doing German Jewish
Genealogy research.

I currently live in Los Angeles, but will be making Aliyah to Israel in a month.

I speak English and basic Hebrew. My primary research goals now are
to find out:_the lineage and marriage of the OBERBRUNNER's in my family

The family names and towns that I am researching are: OBERBRUNNER born
in Trappstadt, Germany

OBERBRUNNER- MAX, 22 Aug 1894, Died June 1973
I know his wife was Jettchen (I do not have a maiden name though)

Matt Gross, Los Angeles, CA (soon to be Jerusalem) <mhgross@gmail.com>

Hello GerSig,
I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for
1 year. I consider myself to be begininer in doing German Jewish
Genealogy research.

I currently live in Los Angeles, but will be making Aliyah to Israel in a month.

I speak English and basic Hebrew. My primary research goals now are
to find out:_the lineage and marriage of the OBERBRUNNER's in my family

The family names and towns that I am researching are: OBERBRUNNER born
in Trappstadt, Germany

OBERBRUNNER- MAX, 22 Aug 1894, Died June 1973
I know his wife was Jettchen (I do not have a maiden name though)

Matt Gross, Los Angeles, CA (soon to be Jerusalem) <mhgross@gmail.com>

Dear Forum, searching the internet I found the following:
The "London Gazette">from July 18, 1947 published a list of name changes.
Rolf Max Gunter HEILBUT >from Germany,
changed his name into Ralph Max Graham HEYWOOD.

- Doing family search already for 26 years it is the first time that I came
across this person. Can anybody help identifying him? Or does anybody
out there know him? Or can help me finding him/or his family?
Thank you in advance.

Helga Heilbut , Bergisch Gladbach, Deutschland HHHeilbut@t-online.de

Dear Forum, searching the internet I found the following:
The "London Gazette">from July 18, 1947 published a list of name changes.
Rolf Max Gunter HEILBUT >from Germany,
changed his name into Ralph Max Graham HEYWOOD.

- Doing family search already for 26 years it is the first time that I came
across this person. Can anybody help identifying him? Or does anybody
out there know him? Or can help me finding him/or his family?
Thank you in advance.

Helga Heilbut , Bergisch Gladbach, Deutschland HHHeilbut@t-online.de

Has anyone successfully obtained records >from the military archives
(Osterreichisches Staatsarchiv - Kriegsarchiv) in Vienna, for
hungarians who served in the k und k army?

I sent them an inquiry, and received a reply >from the director of the
archive, dr. Tepperberg, offering to do a paid search, for a
reasonable estimated fee. but, they emphasize that the primary
records, for persons with nationality outside of present-day austria,
were "left with the successor states following the peace declaration
of saint-germain (1919), and all these documents have been to a large
extent destroyed". this would seem to indicate that the records are
in budapest, if they exist at all.

i was hoping to document at least the minimal facts such as name,
rank, and serial number, as well as dates of enlistment and
discharge, for my grandfather, his brother and his cousin, who all
served in the first world war. i am interested in their war records
particularly because one of them was wounded, and another was a
commissioned officer and decorated, and both of these facts figured
in their subsequent treatment in world war two. and there is the
additional aspect of documenting the patriotism of hungarian jews who
fought bravely for their country.

am i even looking in the right place?


....... tom klein, toronto

Has anyone successfully obtained records >from the military archives
(Osterreichisches Staatsarchiv - Kriegsarchiv) in Vienna, for
hungarians who served in the k und k army?

I sent them an inquiry, and received a reply >from the director of the
archive, dr. Tepperberg, offering to do a paid search, for a
reasonable estimated fee. but, they emphasize that the primary
records, for persons with nationality outside of present-day austria,
were "left with the successor states following the peace declaration
of saint-germain (1919), and all these documents have been to a large
extent destroyed". this would seem to indicate that the records are
in budapest, if they exist at all.

i was hoping to document at least the minimal facts such as name,
rank, and serial number, as well as dates of enlistment and
discharge, for my grandfather, his brother and his cousin, who all
served in the first world war. i am interested in their war records
particularly because one of them was wounded, and another was a
commissioned officer and decorated, and both of these facts figured
in their subsequent treatment in world war two. and there is the
additional aspect of documenting the patriotism of hungarian jews who
fought bravely for their country.

am i even looking in the right place?


....... tom klein, toronto

The item mentioned above is being auctioned on the Internet this
coming Sunday. I am always concerned when I see this type of item on
sale. In my opinion, it is communal property that should not be in
the hands of a private individual or sold for private gain. I always
wonder about how the person selling the item obtained it in the first
place. Does anyone else share my misgivings?

On the other hand, the JGFF indicates 11 researchers with roots in
Kiskunfelegyhaza. Perhaps they would consider pooling resources to
obtain the item and eventually turn it over to an appropriate
repository.

Lot 230: Book of the births certificates of Registry Office of the
Jewish Community of Kiskunfelegyhaza, 1877-1889.
Precise and detailed datas, sealed. (Shaken, the pages are beginning
to come loose >from the binding)
a. A death report (torn) written in 1883.
b. 2 printed and filled voucher (and a check), 1929.
Typed broadsheets of the Orthodox Jewish Community. 1943 (9 pieces)
SPECIALLY RARE!
Starting price : 50.000 HUF
Date of auction : 26.11.2006 16:00 GMT +1
Location of the auction : Budapest, V., Szt Istvan krt. 11.

Bob Friedman, NYC

Dear Friends,

I've received several suggestions about sessions on Hungarian themes
for the IAJGS conference in Salt Lake City. While researchers can
propose sessions directly to the conference organizers, SIGs can
also plan and propose sessions themselves. The latter approach is
likely to yield sessions on topics of particular interest to H-SIG
members but does require effort on the part of SIG members. The
purpose of this message is to learn about other proposals you may
have for conference sessions, recruit volunteers to plan and present
Hungarian-theme sessions, and find out how much time you would like
to spend in sessions as opposed to doing research at the FHL.

Here are some of the proposals I've received. I've omitted a few
that are not specifically Hungarian themed (e.g. how to find and
negotiate with an overseas translator, writing family histories) or
would be of limited interest (information about a specific county).

1. A presentation on the various Jewish groups religious groups in
Hungary including Orthodox, Neolog, Status Quo and Hasidic. Where did
they live? The significance of these divisions in Hungarian Jewish
history, how and where were records >from different groups kept, etc.

2. Guides to navigating Hungarian language websites and other on-
line data.

3. Hungarian census records. Where do you find them, what do they
include, what has been filmed, how to translate,o search a web site
that is in Hungarian. City and county vs. nationwide census.
Population census vs. property and tax records, etc.

4. Reading Hungarian Records and Deciphering old script. This might
include information on frequently used terms in different records.
If the session focuses on deciphering handwriting it might be a good
one to co-sponsor with Ger-SIG or Austria-Czech SIG.

5. Using cemeteries as a resource including how to find them, get
information, deciphering headstone transcriptions.

6. Personal stories of Hungarian Jewish families (these would be
along the lines of Elaine Kalman Naves' presentation in NY).

7. Update on FHL filming in formerly Hungarian-speaking areas and
other records acquisition projects.

8. Jewish Budapest at the turn of the century.


H-SIG has already requested a half-day block of time that would be
filled by our luncheon, business meeting, birds-of-a-feather sessions
and, perhaps, one Hungarian-theme presentation. This will provide
additional opportunities for networking with those who are
researching >from particular regions (e.g. Western Slovakia,
Transylvania, Transcarpathian Ruthenia, etc.)

You may send your ideas to me directly at vkahn@kmort.com or to the
entire list.

Best wishes,

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
Hungarian SIG Coordinator

The item mentioned above is being auctioned on the Internet this
coming Sunday. I am always concerned when I see this type of item on
sale. In my opinion, it is communal property that should not be in
the hands of a private individual or sold for private gain. I always
wonder about how the person selling the item obtained it in the first
place. Does anyone else share my misgivings?

On the other hand, the JGFF indicates 11 researchers with roots in
Kiskunfelegyhaza. Perhaps they would consider pooling resources to
obtain the item and eventually turn it over to an appropriate
repository.

Lot 230: Book of the births certificates of Registry Office of the
Jewish Community of Kiskunfelegyhaza, 1877-1889.
Precise and detailed datas, sealed. (Shaken, the pages are beginning
to come loose >from the binding)
a. A death report (torn) written in 1883.
b. 2 printed and filled voucher (and a check), 1929.
Typed broadsheets of the Orthodox Jewish Community. 1943 (9 pieces)
SPECIALLY RARE!
Starting price : 50.000 HUF
Date of auction : 26.11.2006 16:00 GMT +1
Location of the auction : Budapest, V., Szt Istvan krt. 11.

Bob Friedman, NYC

Dear Friends,

I've received several suggestions about sessions on Hungarian themes
for the IAJGS conference in Salt Lake City. While researchers can
propose sessions directly to the conference organizers, SIGs can
also plan and propose sessions themselves. The latter approach is
likely to yield sessions on topics of particular interest to H-SIG
members but does require effort on the part of SIG members. The
purpose of this message is to learn about other proposals you may
have for conference sessions, recruit volunteers to plan and present
Hungarian-theme sessions, and find out how much time you would like
to spend in sessions as opposed to doing research at the FHL.

Here are some of the proposals I've received. I've omitted a few
that are not specifically Hungarian themed (e.g. how to find and
negotiate with an overseas translator, writing family histories) or
would be of limited interest (information about a specific county).

1. A presentation on the various Jewish groups religious groups in
Hungary including Orthodox, Neolog, Status Quo and Hasidic. Where did
they live? The significance of these divisions in Hungarian Jewish
history, how and where were records >from different groups kept, etc.

2. Guides to navigating Hungarian language websites and other on-
line data.

3. Hungarian census records. Where do you find them, what do they
include, what has been filmed, how to translate,o search a web site
that is in Hungarian. City and county vs. nationwide census.
Population census vs. property and tax records, etc.

4. Reading Hungarian Records and Deciphering old script. This might
include information on frequently used terms in different records.
If the session focuses on deciphering handwriting it might be a good
one to co-sponsor with Ger-SIG or Austria-Czech SIG.

5. Using cemeteries as a resource including how to find them, get
information, deciphering headstone transcriptions.

6. Personal stories of Hungarian Jewish families (these would be
along the lines of Elaine Kalman Naves' presentation in NY).

7. Update on FHL filming in formerly Hungarian-speaking areas and
other records acquisition projects.

8. Jewish Budapest at the turn of the century.


H-SIG has already requested a half-day block of time that would be
filled by our luncheon, business meeting, birds-of-a-feather sessions
and, perhaps, one Hungarian-theme presentation. This will provide
additional opportunities for networking with those who are
researching >from particular regions (e.g. Western Slovakia,
Transylvania, Transcarpathian Ruthenia, etc.)

You may send your ideas to me directly at vkahn@kmort.com or to the
entire list.

Best wishes,

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, CA
Hungarian SIG Coordinator

I agree, Ancestry's new passenger list data-base is user friendly, but has=20
its flaws. The addition on 1957 records is interesting to review. It is=20
incomplete. In two specifics I have searched, and this may be of interest t=
o=20
Hungarians.=20

Several thousand of us Hungarian refugees arrived in the US following the=20
1956 Hungarian Revolution and Freedom Fight. Many of these refugees melted=20=
into=20
the population with names changed and therefore hard to find.=20

Specifically, there were three boats sailing >from Braemerhaven to New York=20
in January 1957. (There may have been more, as well as all the=20
air-transports.) Each of these boats carried approximately 1,500 Hungarian=
s. I was on one=20
of these boats.=20

The one I was on, arrived on January 16, 1957, the "Marine Carp", is listed=
.=20
The only problem, that only the names of the 213 crew-members are there.=20
None of the Hungarian refugee passengers.=20

There must be lists existing, after all, we have all been interviewed on=20
the boat by the FBI or CIA, and we have been issued our Social Security car=
ds=20
prior to leaving the boat in New York and checked in at Camp Kilmer.=20

Calling Ancestry, they were not able to give me an explanation.=20

The second boat called "Leroy El Tinge" arrived on January 31, 1957. It is=20
not in the list of arriving boats.

The third boat's name is unknown to me yet, so I could not verify if there=20
is any consistency in these records and problems.

If anyone of you has information related to these issues, please write to m=
e=20
directly at:

Leloed@aol.com=20

Thank you,

Leslie Eloed
California, USA

In a message dated 11/21/2006 8:14:14 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, =20
steve.low@gordianconcepts.com writes:
A word of caution. My experience is that Ancestry still does not offer the=20
entire Ellis Island database--either that or their indexing has problems.

To be thorough, I'd suggest going directly to ellisisland.org and/or using=20
the excellent Steve Morse search engines available at=20
http://www.stevemorse.org/.

<snip>
Steve Low
Lincoln, MA

Researching:

LOW >from Satu Mare/Seini, Romania (i.e., Szatmar/Szinervaralj=E1, Hungary)=
to
New York

SCHWARTZ >from Halmeu, Romania (I.e., Halmi, Hungary) to New York

WITTNER >from Iasi, Romania to New York; Manchester, England; Australia

LANDO/LANDA/LANDAU >from Kiliya, Ukraine and Kishinev, Moldova to New York
and Palestine

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Marian Brown
To: H-SIG
Sent: 11/20/2006 4:59 PM
Subject: [h-sig] Passenger Lists - Persist!


With free access to passsenger lists on Ancestry this month, I have
spent many hours searching the manifests, page by page, name by name,
and I want to share my experiences.

<anip>
Marian Brown
Cincinnati, OH

I agree, Ancestry's new passenger list data-base is user friendly, but has=20
its flaws. The addition on 1957 records is interesting to review. It is=20
incomplete. In two specifics I have searched, and this may be of interest t=
o=20
Hungarians.=20

Several thousand of us Hungarian refugees arrived in the US following the=20
1956 Hungarian Revolution and Freedom Fight. Many of these refugees melted=20=
into=20
the population with names changed and therefore hard to find.=20

Specifically, there were three boats sailing >from Braemerhaven to New York=20
in January 1957. (There may have been more, as well as all the=20
air-transports.) Each of these boats carried approximately 1,500 Hungarian=
s. I was on one=20
of these boats.=20

The one I was on, arrived on January 16, 1957, the "Marine Carp", is listed=
.=20
The only problem, that only the names of the 213 crew-members are there.=20
None of the Hungarian refugee passengers.=20

There must be lists existing, after all, we have all been interviewed on=20
the boat by the FBI or CIA, and we have been issued our Social Security car=
ds=20
prior to leaving the boat in New York and checked in at Camp Kilmer.=20

Calling Ancestry, they were not able to give me an explanation.=20

The second boat called "Leroy El Tinge" arrived on January 31, 1957. It is=20
not in the list of arriving boats.

The third boat's name is unknown to me yet, so I could not verify if there=20
is any consistency in these records and problems.

If anyone of you has information related to these issues, please write to m=
e=20
directly at:

Leloed@aol.com=20

Thank you,

Leslie Eloed
California, USA

In a message dated 11/21/2006 8:14:14 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, =20
steve.low@gordianconcepts.com writes:
A word of caution. My experience is that Ancestry still does not offer the=20
entire Ellis Island database--either that or their indexing has problems.

To be thorough, I'd suggest going directly to ellisisland.org and/or using=20
the excellent Steve Morse search engines available at=20
http://www.stevemorse.org/.

<snip>
Steve Low
Lincoln, MA

Researching:

LOW >from Satu Mare/Seini, Romania (i.e., Szatmar/Szinervaralj=E1, Hungary)=
to
New York

SCHWARTZ >from Halmeu, Romania (I.e., Halmi, Hungary) to New York

WITTNER >from Iasi, Romania to New York; Manchester, England; Australia

LANDO/LANDA/LANDAU >from Kiliya, Ukraine and Kishinev, Moldova to New York
and Palestine

----- Original Message -----=20
From: Marian Brown
To: H-SIG
Sent: 11/20/2006 4:59 PM
Subject: [h-sig] Passenger Lists - Persist!


With free access to passsenger lists on Ancestry this month, I have
spent many hours searching the manifests, page by page, name by name,
and I want to share my experiences.

<anip>
Marian Brown
Cincinnati, OH

Dear Genners,

Is any of you researching the Grunwald family >from Budapest, who also had branches in Transylvania and Slovakia as well? If so, please contact in private.


Best Regards,
Shaul Sharoni,
Israel

Dear Genners,

Is any of you researching the Grunwald family >from Budapest, who also had branches in Transylvania and Slovakia as well? If so, please contact in private.


Best Regards,
Shaul Sharoni,
Israel

Seeking descendants of Morris GUMPEL (1904-1987). Son of Joseph and Rose
Pachter Gumpel. Immigrated to NYC in 1910 >from Siemaitycze, Grodno Gubernia.
Married Anna Nurenberg, daughter of Oscar and Sara Kahn Nurenberg in NYC
January, 1928.

Please reply privately.

Tina Pachter Levine
NYC
Searching: PACHTER-Siemitaycze, KIRZNER-Lyakhovich,
ZOLONDEK/ROSENBERG-Wawolnica

Seeking descendants of Morris GUMPEL (1904-1987). Son of Joseph and Rose
Pachter Gumpel. Immigrated to NYC in 1910 >from Siemaitycze, Grodno Gubernia.
Married Anna Nurenberg, daughter of Oscar and Sara Kahn Nurenberg in NYC
January, 1928.

Please reply privately.

Tina Pachter Levine
NYC
Searching: PACHTER-Siemitaycze, KIRZNER-Lyakhovich,
ZOLONDEK/ROSENBERG-Wawolnica

Hi all,

I am seeking for anyone who would have something to tell about any
KANOs, SOCHACZEWSKIs or SKROBECK in lodz or surroundings. Actually,
I've made much more research on my mom's side (and the mother of my
father, also), which is Ukraine, where I have a much better picture of
my ancestry map than in my father's side - Poland. I know his father
and family lived for a while in Lodz. He was born in Zychlin, having
lived in Zgienska street (I have just received 2 replied about my
inquire on this street >from you), but he somehow lived in Kutno as
well.

Among the scarce stories I've heard, there's one that makes connection
to Szolim-Hersz KANO,Z"L, my great-grandfather, living a period of
time in Brussels after an arrangement a friend of his - I believe a
rabbi >from Brussels (either Anderlecht or Antwerp) made for him to
work there aiming improving conditions to raise the family.

Below are the names of the family members, if anyone remembers of
something please reply back.

- Yaakov Itzchak KANO, Z"L, marrided with Sheindl Hendl, Z"L (mainden
name uknown) (it is very likely this generation did not live actually
in Poland, for my father's zeide was born somewhere in Lithuania.
Their children were:

- Meir
- Heinech
- Pinchas (perhaps KANO,Pinkus Cherszek 1879)
- Ester Iochid (probably KANO, Estera Jacheta 1889)
- Mordechai Leib Kano (KANO, Mordka Lejb 1881)
- Yehoshua
- Miriam Malka (KANO, Maryjem Malka 1879)
- Chaya Necha (KANO, Chaia Necha 1874)
- Shulem Hersh KANO (Szolim-Hersz), my great-grandfather
zichronam livrach.

SOCHACZEWSKI side:
Aharon Yechezkel SOCHACZEWSKI married Lea SKROBECK. Children:
- Sender
- Avraham Peisach
- Heinech
- Sara Beila
- Hendl
- Rivka Mariem SOCHACZEWSKI, my great-grandmother,
zichronam livrach.

Finally, Szolim-Hersz, Z"L, married Rivka Mariem, Z"L having the
following children:
- Tuba KANO, Z"L
- Chava KANO, Z"L
- Shlomo Yehuda (still alive, living in Recife, Brazil)
- Malia KANO, Z"L,
- Aharon Yechezkel, Z"L
- Avraham Yehoshua, my grandfather, Z"L

They certainly lived in Zychlin, and probably some of them did roam in Lodz.

Kol tuv,
Avraham Yehoshua Kahana,
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

Hi all,

I am seeking for anyone who would have something to tell about any
KANOs, SOCHACZEWSKIs or SKROBECK in lodz or surroundings. Actually,
I've made much more research on my mom's side (and the mother of my
father, also), which is Ukraine, where I have a much better picture of
my ancestry map than in my father's side - Poland. I know his father
and family lived for a while in Lodz. He was born in Zychlin, having
lived in Zgienska street (I have just received 2 replied about my
inquire on this street >from you), but he somehow lived in Kutno as
well.

Among the scarce stories I've heard, there's one that makes connection
to Szolim-Hersz KANO,Z"L, my great-grandfather, living a period of
time in Brussels after an arrangement a friend of his - I believe a
rabbi >from Brussels (either Anderlecht or Antwerp) made for him to
work there aiming improving conditions to raise the family.

Below are the names of the family members, if anyone remembers of
something please reply back.

- Yaakov Itzchak KANO, Z"L, marrided with Sheindl Hendl, Z"L (mainden
name uknown) (it is very likely this generation did not live actually
in Poland, for my father's zeide was born somewhere in Lithuania.
Their children were:

- Meir
- Heinech
- Pinchas (perhaps KANO,Pinkus Cherszek 1879)
- Ester Iochid (probably KANO, Estera Jacheta 1889)
- Mordechai Leib Kano (KANO, Mordka Lejb 1881)
- Yehoshua
- Miriam Malka (KANO, Maryjem Malka 1879)
- Chaya Necha (KANO, Chaia Necha 1874)
- Shulem Hersh KANO (Szolim-Hersz), my great-grandfather
zichronam livrach.

SOCHACZEWSKI side:
Aharon Yechezkel SOCHACZEWSKI married Lea SKROBECK. Children:
- Sender
- Avraham Peisach
- Heinech
- Sara Beila
- Hendl
- Rivka Mariem SOCHACZEWSKI, my great-grandmother,
zichronam livrach.

Finally, Szolim-Hersz, Z"L, married Rivka Mariem, Z"L having the
following children:
- Tuba KANO, Z"L
- Chava KANO, Z"L
- Shlomo Yehuda (still alive, living in Recife, Brazil)
- Malia KANO, Z"L,
- Aharon Yechezkel, Z"L
- Avraham Yehoshua, my grandfather, Z"L

They certainly lived in Zychlin, and probably some of them did roam in Lodz.

Kol tuv,
Avraham Yehoshua Kahana,
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil