I'm looking for descendants of Irving SELDES. Irving and his wife Florence
lived in Detroit, Michigan. Irving died in 1995 and Florence in 1971. Both
are buried at Clover Hill Park.
They had two sons David (1935) and Harold (1943). David was married to Rita
and in the 1950s they lived in Detroit. Harold was married perhaps to
Phyllis.
Any help in contacting any of the named persons or their descendants is
appreciated.

--
Ilya Zeldes
Fort Myers, Florida

I'm looking for descendants of Irving SELDES. Irving and his wife Florence
lived in Detroit, Michigan. Irving died in 1995 and Florence in 1971. Both
are buried at Clover Hill Park.
They had two sons David (1935) and Harold (1943). David was married to Rita
and in the 1950s they lived in Detroit. Harold was married perhaps to
Phyllis.
Any help in contacting any of the named persons or their descendants is
appreciated.

--
Ilya Zeldes
Fort Myers, Florida

Hello GerSig,
I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for several months.
I consider myself to be a novice in doing German Jewish Genealogy research.
I live in Aptos California and speak English with some abilities in Spanish and
French. I consider myself intermediate in using a computer. My experience in
using the Internet is intermediate .

I have identified the names and birth and death dates of my grandfather,
Abraham FROEHLICH(b.10/1884) of my great
grandparents David FROEHLICH (b.1853, NYC, d 1892) and
Fanny STRAUSS (b.1854 to Karlesin GRUNEWALD and Emanuel STRAUSS) NYC, d 1935)
and of my great great grandparents Meyer FROEHLICH (b 1823 Prussia/Bavaria d
1906) and Henrietta (Fanny) AUGUST (b 1823).

My primary research goals now are to find other reseachers/descendants of
this family.

The family names and towns that I am researching are:
family of Frances STUDINSKI of Mansfield Ohio,
Philip LEVEY family of Richland County Ohio
(grandmother was Violet Levey FROEHLICH).

Jill Lewin Chesler, Aptos Calif. <jillc1024@sbcglobal.net>

The Moving Here search engine is especially useful for finding "enemy alien"
(i.e. German) immigrants that arrived in the UK before 1939:
http://www.movinghere.org.uk/search/

Marcelo Rosenbaum, Stockport, UK marcelo@roferma.demon.co.uk

Hello GerSig,
I just joined the group. I have been doing genealogy research for several months.
I consider myself to be a novice in doing German Jewish Genealogy research.
I live in Aptos California and speak English with some abilities in Spanish and
French. I consider myself intermediate in using a computer. My experience in
using the Internet is intermediate .

I have identified the names and birth and death dates of my grandfather,
Abraham FROEHLICH(b.10/1884) of my great
grandparents David FROEHLICH (b.1853, NYC, d 1892) and
Fanny STRAUSS (b.1854 to Karlesin GRUNEWALD and Emanuel STRAUSS) NYC, d 1935)
and of my great great grandparents Meyer FROEHLICH (b 1823 Prussia/Bavaria d
1906) and Henrietta (Fanny) AUGUST (b 1823).

My primary research goals now are to find other reseachers/descendants of
this family.

The family names and towns that I am researching are:
family of Frances STUDINSKI of Mansfield Ohio,
Philip LEVEY family of Richland County Ohio
(grandmother was Violet Levey FROEHLICH).

Jill Lewin Chesler, Aptos Calif. <jillc1024@sbcglobal.net>

The Moving Here search engine is especially useful for finding "enemy alien"
(i.e. German) immigrants that arrived in the UK before 1939:
http://www.movinghere.org.uk/search/

Marcelo Rosenbaum, Stockport, UK marcelo@roferma.demon.co.uk

A bit over a year ago, the thread on how to use the online Berlin
directories if you're not fluent in German came up. At that time I wrote a guide
which I have now put up on my personal website. The URL is:

http://einewhouse.0catch.com/berlindirs.htm

Please note that it's a zero, not capital-o in front of catch.
Sorry for the annoying banners & popups, but there's no such thing as a truly
free lunch.

If the site doesn't want you to enter by bypassing my home page, there's also
a link to this page from:
http://einewhouse.0catch.com/index.html

Irene Newhouse <einew@hotmail.com>

A bit over a year ago, the thread on how to use the online Berlin
directories if you're not fluent in German came up. At that time I wrote a guide
which I have now put up on my personal website. The URL is:

http://einewhouse.0catch.com/berlindirs.htm

Please note that it's a zero, not capital-o in front of catch.
Sorry for the annoying banners & popups, but there's no such thing as a truly
free lunch.

If the site doesn't want you to enter by bypassing my home page, there's also
a link to this page from:
http://einewhouse.0catch.com/index.html

Irene Newhouse <einew@hotmail.com>

Dear Genners

Congratulations on the improved acces to data bases and search capabilities

I have been trying for quite a while to obtain more info on the above towns
and find no info about them and even less about my forebears.

Can anyone help? I dont know if its just me being uninformed or just looking
in the wrong places but no luck.

I believe that all Kursenai records were destroyed bt the Germans in WW2.
Pociuneliai must have been without any Jewish population >from approx.the
time of the revolution.

My GF(paternal)and Gm were >from Kursenai...found some traces in donors lists
but nothing else. My Dad and siblings were born in SA and lived in
Krugersdorp where I was born.


My GF and GM (maternal) were >from Pociuneliai and GF came here in 1913,

Gm and children were separated >from him till 1925 when found via Red
Cross.They were moved by the Russians to Mariupol on the Sea Of Azov or in
its environs.I think it was avillage on the banks of the Kuban River as we
were told of Cossack units being camped near the river close by. Came to
SA in 1925 via London and the shelter in Leman Street London. They were then
reunited with my GF. Cannot find any traces of them in shipping
lists or anywhere else.

Details of maternal GP's.......GF Harry (Hirsh) Krawitz..cert of
naturalisation no6022....issued6/12/1920(shows as Russian by birth)Children
listed as not resident in the UNION of SA...Milly:Sam:Gertrude and Behjamin
Gm Leah Krawitz born Podles/Podlas not shown on Docs All children now
deceased. Milly and Gertrude 1992 Samuel and Benjamin(Beines)died prior to
this..:

Details of paternal Gp's etc Baruch Eliezer Teren born 1879 died 1939
Krugersdorp (son of Menachem Medel Teren of Kursenai) GM was Chaie Sarah
Teren Born bonner born 1874 died Krugersdorp 1942.She was the daughter of
Aaron Bonner of Kursenai
Children:Raphael:Minnie:Isaac:Rose:Abraham and Lily

Ralph died Krugersdorp 2002
Isaac Died Johannesburg 2005
Rose died Johannesburg 2006
Minnie died Israel some years ago(+_ 10)
Abraham died Krugersdorp 1985
Lily now Glazer living in Canada.

My father had an aunt living on Meshek Yagur in Israel(arrived ther in 1934)

met her and her family whilst I lived thereName was Chaviva Teren Strauss.

Found an old letter >from 1956 referring to an Osher or Asher Mantzovsky
living in Kfar Saba who was apparently The son of Chaie Sarah Bonners
sister.This would have put him in the same agecategories as my father and
his siblings approx

Somehow contact was not established with him and there is no further
mention.

Mi father was Raphael Teren (born 1909 Johannesburg and my mother was
Gertrude Teren born Krawitz in 1911 in Pociunelia

I live in Sunninghill,Sandton with My wife Isabel Marion (born Wertheimer
1947 in Zimbabwe) and daughter Gabriella born 1982 in Krugersdorp.

We are 3 siblings.....Myrtle ...born 1936 Krugersdorp(living in
Johannesburg)
Bernard Leslie(named after my GF) born 1942.
Hilton... born 1947 living in London


Ihave little to add to the above apart >from details of cousins etv which I
have not included for the sake of brevity..........The above is quite long
enough.

Perhaps you could give me some clues as to how I can proceed,
I am no computer geek so this is possibly where I have lost the trail.

Thanking you in advance

Bernard Leslie TEREN (researcher 154609)

Dear Genners

Congratulations on the improved acces to data bases and search capabilities

I have been trying for quite a while to obtain more info on the above towns
and find no info about them and even less about my forebears.

Can anyone help? I dont know if its just me being uninformed or just looking
in the wrong places but no luck.

I believe that all Kursenai records were destroyed bt the Germans in WW2.
Pociuneliai must have been without any Jewish population >from approx.the
time of the revolution.

My GF(paternal)and Gm were >from Kursenai...found some traces in donors lists
but nothing else. My Dad and siblings were born in SA and lived in
Krugersdorp where I was born.


My GF and GM (maternal) were >from Pociuneliai and GF came here in 1913,

Gm and children were separated >from him till 1925 when found via Red
Cross.They were moved by the Russians to Mariupol on the Sea Of Azov or in
its environs.I think it was avillage on the banks of the Kuban River as we
were told of Cossack units being camped near the river close by. Came to
SA in 1925 via London and the shelter in Leman Street London. They were then
reunited with my GF. Cannot find any traces of them in shipping
lists or anywhere else.

Details of maternal GP's.......GF Harry (Hirsh) Krawitz..cert of
naturalisation no6022....issued6/12/1920(shows as Russian by birth)Children
listed as not resident in the UNION of SA...Milly:Sam:Gertrude and Behjamin
Gm Leah Krawitz born Podles/Podlas not shown on Docs All children now
deceased. Milly and Gertrude 1992 Samuel and Benjamin(Beines)died prior to
this..:

Details of paternal Gp's etc Baruch Eliezer Teren born 1879 died 1939
Krugersdorp (son of Menachem Medel Teren of Kursenai) GM was Chaie Sarah
Teren Born bonner born 1874 died Krugersdorp 1942.She was the daughter of
Aaron Bonner of Kursenai
Children:Raphael:Minnie:Isaac:Rose:Abraham and Lily

Ralph died Krugersdorp 2002
Isaac Died Johannesburg 2005
Rose died Johannesburg 2006
Minnie died Israel some years ago(+_ 10)
Abraham died Krugersdorp 1985
Lily now Glazer living in Canada.

My father had an aunt living on Meshek Yagur in Israel(arrived ther in 1934)

met her and her family whilst I lived thereName was Chaviva Teren Strauss.

Found an old letter >from 1956 referring to an Osher or Asher Mantzovsky
living in Kfar Saba who was apparently The son of Chaie Sarah Bonners
sister.This would have put him in the same agecategories as my father and
his siblings approx

Somehow contact was not established with him and there is no further
mention.

Mi father was Raphael Teren (born 1909 Johannesburg and my mother was
Gertrude Teren born Krawitz in 1911 in Pociunelia

I live in Sunninghill,Sandton with My wife Isabel Marion (born Wertheimer
1947 in Zimbabwe) and daughter Gabriella born 1982 in Krugersdorp.

We are 3 siblings.....Myrtle ...born 1936 Krugersdorp(living in
Johannesburg)
Bernard Leslie(named after my GF) born 1942.
Hilton... born 1947 living in London


Ihave little to add to the above apart >from details of cousins etv which I
have not included for the sake of brevity..........The above is quite long
enough.

Perhaps you could give me some clues as to how I can proceed,
I am no computer geek so this is possibly where I have lost the trail.

Thanking you in advance

Bernard Leslie TEREN (researcher 154609)

Avivah wrote:

...I would like the full title, etc. for the book which Fritz referred to:

Viennese specialist on the Vienna Yiddish Theater- Brigitte Dalinger

Also, any other theater books about the Yiddish theater in Europe.

We are seeking any information about performances, etc of plays by David Pinski....

My comment:

I did give full references to the two books by Brigitte Dalinger on this
list about two years ago. Then I provided an abstract of the content and
a list of names occurring in the books. This mail was posted on March
21, 2004 by the moderator. That is why I did not dare to repeat my mail
in my posting a few days ago. The full content is accessible through a
search for "Dalinger" in the JewishGen SIG files. It may still be useful
to provide just the exact reference to new subscribers since then:

"Two books by the Austrian researcher Brigitte Dalinger that extensively
deal with the Yiddish Theater in Vienna have appeared in the past years.
All the text is in German.

1) Dalinger, Brigitte: Verloschene Sterne: Geschichte des juedischen
Theaters in Wien (Extinct Stars: History of the Jewish Theater in
Vienna). Vienna: Picus Publishers, 1998. ISBN 3-85452-420-X. 312 pages.

2) Dalinger, Brigitte: Quellenedition zur Geschichte des juedischen
Theaters in Wien (Source edition on the history of the Jewish theater in
Vienna). Tuebingen: Niemeyer Publishers, 2003. ISBN 3-484-65142-3. 279 pages."

As to the name David Pinski, there are numerous references to him and
his plays in both books.

In the first volume ("Verloschene Sterne"), a paragraph on p. 34 says

"David Pinski (1872-1959) vertrat soziale Anliegen, etwa im juedischen
Arbeitserdrama "Eisik Scheftel" oder im Einakter "Vom Glueck vergessen".
"Die Familie Zwi" beschäftigt sich mit der Zerrissenheit des Judentums
... Ausser einer Reihe historischer Dramen schrieb Pinski "Jekel, der
Schmied" und "Der Schatz", letzteres wurde 1920 von Max Reinhardt
inszeniert."

(Translation: David Pinski represented social causes, as e.g. in the
Jewish workers' drama "Eisik Scheftel" or in the one-act play "Forgotten
by Luck". The play "The family Zwi" is concerned with the splitting
apart of Jewry ... Apart >from a series of historical dramas Pinski wrote
"Jekel, the blacksmith" and "The Treasure", the latter one was put on
stage by Max Reinhardt in 1920."

This confirms what Avivah knew >from her sources.

On p. 72 it is reported that "Jekel, the Blacksmith" by Pinski was
performed 24 times between December 1920 and July 1921 by the "Freie
Juedische Volksbuehne" in Vienna. Pinski's drama "Eisik Scheftel" is
decribed as one of the most played dramas, together with "God of
Revenge" by Schalom Asch and Gordin's "The Stranger", it was performed
nearly every night, an illustration shows the theater's plan for the
month September 1921 with this drama on it. On p. 193 a meeting between
Pinski and Arthur Schnitzler is mentioned. Altogether, 14 references
according to the index.

In the second volume (Quellenedition) Pinski's name is mentioned about
30 times according to the index. In addition to that, references to 8
plays occur.

As one can see, both volumes have lots of information on David PINSKI -
let me know how I can help you,

with kind regards

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany

Moderator's Note: Please contact Dr. Neubauer directly if continuing this
exchange.

Avivah wrote:

...I would like the full title, etc. for the book which Fritz referred to:

Viennese specialist on the Vienna Yiddish Theater- Brigitte Dalinger

Also, any other theater books about the Yiddish theater in Europe.

We are seeking any information about performances, etc of plays by David Pinski....

My comment:

I did give full references to the two books by Brigitte Dalinger on this
list about two years ago. Then I provided an abstract of the content and
a list of names occurring in the books. This mail was posted on March
21, 2004 by the moderator. That is why I did not dare to repeat my mail
in my posting a few days ago. The full content is accessible through a
search for "Dalinger" in the JewishGen SIG files. It may still be useful
to provide just the exact reference to new subscribers since then:

"Two books by the Austrian researcher Brigitte Dalinger that extensively
deal with the Yiddish Theater in Vienna have appeared in the past years.
All the text is in German.

1) Dalinger, Brigitte: Verloschene Sterne: Geschichte des juedischen
Theaters in Wien (Extinct Stars: History of the Jewish Theater in
Vienna). Vienna: Picus Publishers, 1998. ISBN 3-85452-420-X. 312 pages.

2) Dalinger, Brigitte: Quellenedition zur Geschichte des juedischen
Theaters in Wien (Source edition on the history of the Jewish theater in
Vienna). Tuebingen: Niemeyer Publishers, 2003. ISBN 3-484-65142-3. 279 pages."

As to the name David Pinski, there are numerous references to him and
his plays in both books.

In the first volume ("Verloschene Sterne"), a paragraph on p. 34 says

"David Pinski (1872-1959) vertrat soziale Anliegen, etwa im juedischen
Arbeitserdrama "Eisik Scheftel" oder im Einakter "Vom Glueck vergessen".
"Die Familie Zwi" beschäftigt sich mit der Zerrissenheit des Judentums
... Ausser einer Reihe historischer Dramen schrieb Pinski "Jekel, der
Schmied" und "Der Schatz", letzteres wurde 1920 von Max Reinhardt
inszeniert."

(Translation: David Pinski represented social causes, as e.g. in the
Jewish workers' drama "Eisik Scheftel" or in the one-act play "Forgotten
by Luck". The play "The family Zwi" is concerned with the splitting
apart of Jewry ... Apart >from a series of historical dramas Pinski wrote
"Jekel, the blacksmith" and "The Treasure", the latter one was put on
stage by Max Reinhardt in 1920."

This confirms what Avivah knew >from her sources.

On p. 72 it is reported that "Jekel, the Blacksmith" by Pinski was
performed 24 times between December 1920 and July 1921 by the "Freie
Juedische Volksbuehne" in Vienna. Pinski's drama "Eisik Scheftel" is
decribed as one of the most played dramas, together with "God of
Revenge" by Schalom Asch and Gordin's "The Stranger", it was performed
nearly every night, an illustration shows the theater's plan for the
month September 1921 with this drama on it. On p. 193 a meeting between
Pinski and Arthur Schnitzler is mentioned. Altogether, 14 references
according to the index.

In the second volume (Quellenedition) Pinski's name is mentioned about
30 times according to the index. In addition to that, references to 8
plays occur.

As one can see, both volumes have lots of information on David PINSKI -
let me know how I can help you,

with kind regards

Fritz Neubauer, North Germany

Moderator's Note: Please contact Dr. Neubauer directly if continuing this
exchange.

I am trying to find the individual who submitted a page of testimony for
Berta LEBOVITS nee Gross >from Fancsika, Hungary. It was signed by her nephew?
Kalman LEBENKOPF or Lebenkoff of Acco. His address was Ninth Street, # 9. I
believe the testimony was signed in 1956, but I am not too sure, as my Hebrew
is not that good to decipher it on the document.

Berta Lebovits was related to my wife and we are trying to find out what
happened to her sister Yolan (Joan) GROSS who immigrated to Philadelphia, c.
1913, leaving Berta in Hungary where she was killed.

George Fogelson
fogelson@alum.calberkeley.org
Redondo Beach, CA

I am trying to find the individual who submitted a page of testimony for
Berta LEBOVITS nee Gross >from Fancsika, Hungary. It was signed by her nephew?
Kalman LEBENKOPF or Lebenkoff of Acco. His address was Ninth Street, # 9. I
believe the testimony was signed in 1956, but I am not too sure, as my Hebrew
is not that good to decipher it on the document.

Berta Lebovits was related to my wife and we are trying to find out what
happened to her sister Yolan (Joan) GROSS who immigrated to Philadelphia, c.
1913, leaving Berta in Hungary where she was killed.

George Fogelson
fogelson@alum.calberkeley.org
Redondo Beach, CA

In June/06, I was in Berzniki, (Suwalki gubernia) Poland.

The synagogue had been destroyed and a private house now stands in its
place. Most of the former Jewish houses burned, as they had been
constructed of wood, very close together. When one caught fire, it quickly
spread to all the others. However, my guide Roza and I went into the church
where the door stood open, hoping to find someone or the priest who could
tell us about the Jews who had lived in this tiny town before the war. We
had no success in finding anyone in the church and so tried the priest's
house across the street. There, a dog barked but there was no one home.

Finally, a little down the road >from the town church, there was a house that
my guide tried. A man came to the door and said that there was an old
woman, in her 90's, who might be of help to us. He came with us in the car
to the farm house, where this woman lived with her family, about a mile
away. Unfortunately, this woman was not at home, but a man who lived there
came and talked to us. He showed us an adjoining field where the Jewish
cemetery had once been. The headstones were destroyed and there is no
longer a sign of anything remotely resembling a cemetery.

*He told us that his name is Joseph Skupskij, the son of Vincenty Skupskij.
He related how his family had sheltered 7 families >from Sejny who asked for
protection during their flight to Lithuania, to escape the Nazi invasion.
Joseph was a small child at that time (1939), but he remembered that one of
the people in that group was named Ovsej.*

Thr Skupskij family has not yet been honored as Righteous Gentiles by Yad
Vashem. However, in order for this to happen, the families saved by this
man have to be identified and come forward. The Yad Vashem work in the
Righteous Nations Program is based on testimonies of the rescued persons.

If anyone has information on one or several of these 7 families, please
reply to me privately, so the wheels to honor the Skupskij family can be put
into motion.
----------------------
Merle Kastner
Montreal, Canada
merlek@videotron.ca

In June/06, I was in Berzniki, (Suwalki gubernia) Poland.

The synagogue had been destroyed and a private house now stands in its
place. Most of the former Jewish houses burned, as they had been
constructed of wood, very close together. When one caught fire, it quickly
spread to all the others. However, my guide Roza and I went into the church
where the door stood open, hoping to find someone or the priest who could
tell us about the Jews who had lived in this tiny town before the war. We
had no success in finding anyone in the church and so tried the priest's
house across the street. There, a dog barked but there was no one home.

Finally, a little down the road >from the town church, there was a house that
my guide tried. A man came to the door and said that there was an old
woman, in her 90's, who might be of help to us. He came with us in the car
to the farm house, where this woman lived with her family, about a mile
away. Unfortunately, this woman was not at home, but a man who lived there
came and talked to us. He showed us an adjoining field where the Jewish
cemetery had once been. The headstones were destroyed and there is no
longer a sign of anything remotely resembling a cemetery.

*He told us that his name is Joseph Skupskij, the son of Vincenty Skupskij.
He related how his family had sheltered 7 families >from Sejny who asked for
protection during their flight to Lithuania, to escape the Nazi invasion.
Joseph was a small child at that time (1939), but he remembered that one of
the people in that group was named Ovsej.*

Thr Skupskij family has not yet been honored as Righteous Gentiles by Yad
Vashem. However, in order for this to happen, the families saved by this
man have to be identified and come forward. The Yad Vashem work in the
Righteous Nations Program is based on testimonies of the rescued persons.

If anyone has information on one or several of these 7 families, please
reply to me privately, so the wheels to honor the Skupskij family can be put
into motion.
----------------------
Merle Kastner
Montreal, Canada
merlek@videotron.ca

VM8982 (Image 1212)
Description: Tombstone Arabic or Polish/Belorusysian or Tartar
posted: 12/03/2006
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8982

VM8983 (Image 1214):
Description: Tombstone Arabic/Tatar ?
May be in Arabic script, but Polish/Belyorusian language, not sure,
best image I can get
Category: Tombstone - located in NYC
posted: 12/3/2006
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8983

VM 8984 (Image 1215)
Description: Tombstone Tartar/Arabic ? plus cyrillic year 1913
posted: 12/3/2006
Description: circa 1913
Died in New York. Best image I can produce
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8984

VM8985 (image 1216): Arabic/Tartar ?
Category: Tombstone
posted: 12/3/06
Description: Symon Muchlia ??
Unable to make out spelling which is in English
Died Dec 29, 1912 in New York. Best image I can produce
Believed to be Tartar-Polish-Lithuanian-Moslem
Looking for any additional information written on this stone, and what
people think is the correct spelling.
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8985

VM8986 (Image 1213 copy)
Category: Tombstone
posted: 12/3/2006
Description: Tombstone Arabic ? Tartar ? Cyrillic date
Believed to be Tartar/Polish/Lithuanian/Moslem - Died NYC
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8986

All individuals above are buried in Maple Grove Cemetery, Brooklyn, NY, USA.
All are believed to be Polish and/or Tartar.
Geographical location as to where they came >from is probably scattered
across Eastern Europe, >from areas of Poland, Wilna (Lithuania), and Belarusia.
Attempting to ascertain who in this ethnic graveyard are my relatives and
how they are related.

I wish to thank you all very much for your past and continued assistance !

Sincerely,

Edward Potereiko
Colorado Springs, Colorado

edwardp@writeme.com

VM8982 (Image 1212)
Description: Tombstone Arabic or Polish/Belorusysian or Tartar
posted: 12/03/2006
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8982

VM8983 (Image 1214):
Description: Tombstone Arabic/Tatar ?
May be in Arabic script, but Polish/Belyorusian language, not sure,
best image I can get
Category: Tombstone - located in NYC
posted: 12/3/2006
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8983

VM 8984 (Image 1215)
Description: Tombstone Tartar/Arabic ? plus cyrillic year 1913
posted: 12/3/2006
Description: circa 1913
Died in New York. Best image I can produce
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8984

VM8985 (image 1216): Arabic/Tartar ?
Category: Tombstone
posted: 12/3/06
Description: Symon Muchlia ??
Unable to make out spelling which is in English
Died Dec 29, 1912 in New York. Best image I can produce
Believed to be Tartar-Polish-Lithuanian-Moslem
Looking for any additional information written on this stone, and what
people think is the correct spelling.
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8985

VM8986 (Image 1213 copy)
Category: Tombstone
posted: 12/3/2006
Description: Tombstone Arabic ? Tartar ? Cyrillic date
Believed to be Tartar/Polish/Lithuanian/Moslem - Died NYC
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8986

All individuals above are buried in Maple Grove Cemetery, Brooklyn, NY, USA.
All are believed to be Polish and/or Tartar.
Geographical location as to where they came >from is probably scattered
across Eastern Europe, >from areas of Poland, Wilna (Lithuania), and Belarusia.
Attempting to ascertain who in this ethnic graveyard are my relatives and
how they are related.

I wish to thank you all very much for your past and continued assistance !

Sincerely,

Edward Potereiko
Colorado Springs, Colorado

edwardp@writeme.com

In June/06, I was in Berzniki, (Suwalki gubernia) Poland.

The synagogue had been destroyed and a private house now stands in its
place. Most of the former Jewish houses burned, as they had been
constructed of wood, very close together. When one caught fire, it quickly
spread to all the others. However, my guide Roza and I went into the church
where the door stood open, hoping to find someone or the priest who could
tell us about the Jews who had lived in this tiny town before the war. We
had no success in finding anyone in the church and so tried the priest's
house across the street. There, a dog barked but there was no one home.

Finally, a little down the road >from the town church, there was a house that
my guide tried. A man came to the door and said that there was an old
woman, in her 90's, who might be of help to us. He came with us in the car
to the farm house, where this woman lived with her family, about a mile
away. Unfortunately, this woman was not at home, but a man who lived there
came and talked to us. He showed us an adjoining field where the Jewish
cemetery had once been. The headstones were destroyed and there is no
longer a sign of anything remotely resembling a cemetery.

*He told us that his name is Joseph Skupskij, the son of Vincenty Skupskij.
He related how his family had sheltered 7 families >from Sejny who asked for
protection during their flight to Lithuania, to escape the Nazi invasion.
Joseph was a small child at that time (1939), but he remembered that one of
the people in that group was named Ovsej.*

Thr Skupskij family has not yet been honored as Righteous Gentiles by Yad
Vashem. However, in order for this to happen, the families saved by this
man have to be identified and come forward. The Yad Vashem work in the
Righteous Nations Program is based on testimonies of the rescued persons.

If anyone has information on one or several of these 7 families, please
reply to me privately, so the wheels to honor the Skupskij family can be put
into motion.
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Merle Kastner
Montreal, Canada
merlek@videotron.ca

In June/06, I was in Berzniki, (Suwalki gubernia) Poland.

The synagogue had been destroyed and a private house now stands in its
place. Most of the former Jewish houses burned, as they had been
constructed of wood, very close together. When one caught fire, it quickly
spread to all the others. However, my guide Roza and I went into the church
where the door stood open, hoping to find someone or the priest who could
tell us about the Jews who had lived in this tiny town before the war. We
had no success in finding anyone in the church and so tried the priest's
house across the street. There, a dog barked but there was no one home.

Finally, a little down the road >from the town church, there was a house that
my guide tried. A man came to the door and said that there was an old
woman, in her 90's, who might be of help to us. He came with us in the car
to the farm house, where this woman lived with her family, about a mile
away. Unfortunately, this woman was not at home, but a man who lived there
came and talked to us. He showed us an adjoining field where the Jewish
cemetery had once been. The headstones were destroyed and there is no
longer a sign of anything remotely resembling a cemetery.

*He told us that his name is Joseph Skupskij, the son of Vincenty Skupskij.
He related how his family had sheltered 7 families >from Sejny who asked for
protection during their flight to Lithuania, to escape the Nazi invasion.
Joseph was a small child at that time (1939), but he remembered that one of
the people in that group was named Ovsej.*

Thr Skupskij family has not yet been honored as Righteous Gentiles by Yad
Vashem. However, in order for this to happen, the families saved by this
man have to be identified and come forward. The Yad Vashem work in the
Righteous Nations Program is based on testimonies of the rescued persons.

If anyone has information on one or several of these 7 families, please
reply to me privately, so the wheels to honor the Skupskij family can be put
into motion.
----------------------
Merle Kastner
Montreal, Canada
merlek@videotron.ca