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Viewmate help-translation from Yiddish #general

Ruth <drwho70@...>
 

Dear Genners-
I need help with an inscription >from the back of an old photo and believe it
is written in Yiddish but could possibly be Hebrew.

The file number is VM8109 at
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8109

Please respond directly to me and not to the list.

Thank you for any help you can provide.
Ruth Grant, Maine
FEIGENBLAT/FAJGENBLAT/FAIGENBLAT (any spelling), LERNER, VINESHTAYN (any
spelling variation)>> Labun and/or Starokonstantinov, Ukraine, possibly Poland
SMULOWITZ/SHMULOVICH>> Alekandrovsk, Lithuania>> Johannesburg, SA.>> NY & CT, USA
MINSTER/MINSTERIS>>Plunge, Lithuania > Canada & USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Viewmate help-translation from Yiddish #general

Ruth <drwho70@...>
 

Dear Genners-
I need help with an inscription >from the back of an old photo and believe it
is written in Yiddish but could possibly be Hebrew.

The file number is VM8109 at
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8109

Please respond directly to me and not to the list.

Thank you for any help you can provide.
Ruth Grant, Maine
FEIGENBLAT/FAJGENBLAT/FAIGENBLAT (any spelling), LERNER, VINESHTAYN (any
spelling variation)>> Labun and/or Starokonstantinov, Ukraine, possibly Poland
SMULOWITZ/SHMULOVICH>> Alekandrovsk, Lithuania>> Johannesburg, SA.>> NY & CT, USA
MINSTER/MINSTERIS>>Plunge, Lithuania > Canada & USA


Re: Problems in locating shtetl of origin #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Florette Lynn wrote

This might be helpful to genners who are searching for names when they know
or think they know the shtetl of origin. I always knew that my
father-in-law came >from Ostrolenka, Poland and as a matter of fact he
belonged to the Ostolenka Landsmanshaft. Recently I found out that it was
my mother-in-law who came >from there and insisted that my father-in-law join
her Landsmanshaft. So now we have no idea where he came >from and looking
for his surname in Ostrolenka would be useless.

Florette,

It would not be adviced to gave up search in Ostroleka.
Perhaps thanks to the Ostroleka records for your mother-in-law, you will
locate the marriage certificate, which will give you a clue where your
father-in-law have originated from.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB., Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Problems in locating shtetl of origin #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Florette Lynn wrote

This might be helpful to genners who are searching for names when they know
or think they know the shtetl of origin. I always knew that my
father-in-law came >from Ostrolenka, Poland and as a matter of fact he
belonged to the Ostolenka Landsmanshaft. Recently I found out that it was
my mother-in-law who came >from there and insisted that my father-in-law join
her Landsmanshaft. So now we have no idea where he came >from and looking
for his surname in Ostrolenka would be useless.

Florette,

It would not be adviced to gave up search in Ostroleka.
Perhaps thanks to the Ostroleka records for your mother-in-law, you will
locate the marriage certificate, which will give you a clue where your
father-in-law have originated from.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, AB., Canada


ULLMANN from Driesen, Devon and Australia {was Driesen} #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Anne Muir of Brisbane asks where or how to find out information on a place
called Driesen in the Empire of Germany during the period 1835+? She discovered
on obtaining naturalisation information >from the PRO UK that two of her
ancestors, William and Solomon ULLMANN came >from there before moving to the UK

In my previous posting I mentioned the two different census entries of Solomon
{England in 1881 and 1891}.

I have just checked the place name *Driesen* on Yad Vashem - there are 64 named
victims born in Driesen -all were living Germany and of these 64 victims -
there is also an ULLMANN family with PoTs submitted by a brother and a sister -
the latter writes about Driesen "damals [then] Deutschland jetzt [now] Polen;

Adolf ULLMANN was born in Driesen, Germany in 1867 to Markus and Pauline nee
HAMBURGER. He was married to Katharina nee NATHANSON [daughter of Jacques
NATHANSON and Ida nee PINCUS}. Adolf perished in 1943 in Treblinka at the age of
75. Page of Testimony submitted on 17/04/1999 by his son >from Israel. Hans
Markus ULLMANN [tel number is given]. Hans Markus also writes a POT for his
aunt, Minna, dob 16.8.1864. His sister, Chana Ida Kresch? ne ULLMANN >from
Jerusalem has contributed PoTs for both her parents and many other family members
too.

Katharina Ullmann was born in 1879 it is likely her children are well into their
nineties. I do hope they are still alive as they might have more first-hand
knowledge of Driesen and perhaps they belong to the same ULLMANN family Anne is
researching. Solomon may well have been an uncle/Gt-Uncle of Adolf!

Celia Male [U.K.]


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ULLMANN from Driesen, Devon and Australia {was Driesen} #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Anne Muir of Brisbane asks where or how to find out information on a place
called Driesen in the Empire of Germany during the period 1835+? She discovered
on obtaining naturalisation information >from the PRO UK that two of her
ancestors, William and Solomon ULLMANN came >from there before moving to the UK

In my previous posting I mentioned the two different census entries of Solomon
{England in 1881 and 1891}.

I have just checked the place name *Driesen* on Yad Vashem - there are 64 named
victims born in Driesen -all were living Germany and of these 64 victims -
there is also an ULLMANN family with PoTs submitted by a brother and a sister -
the latter writes about Driesen "damals [then] Deutschland jetzt [now] Polen;

Adolf ULLMANN was born in Driesen, Germany in 1867 to Markus and Pauline nee
HAMBURGER. He was married to Katharina nee NATHANSON [daughter of Jacques
NATHANSON and Ida nee PINCUS}. Adolf perished in 1943 in Treblinka at the age of
75. Page of Testimony submitted on 17/04/1999 by his son >from Israel. Hans
Markus ULLMANN [tel number is given]. Hans Markus also writes a POT for his
aunt, Minna, dob 16.8.1864. His sister, Chana Ida Kresch? ne ULLMANN >from
Jerusalem has contributed PoTs for both her parents and many other family members
too.

Katharina Ullmann was born in 1879 it is likely her children are well into their
nineties. I do hope they are still alive as they might have more first-hand
knowledge of Driesen and perhaps they belong to the same ULLMANN family Anne is
researching. Solomon may well have been an uncle/Gt-Uncle of Adolf!

Celia Male [U.K.]


Re: Records for Prisoner in Philadelphia in 1914 #general

L. Altman <familysearch@...>
 

Prison records are public records. They can be found in several places:
1) the local court where the paperwork went through - there may or may not
have been a trial. Could be city or county court most likely although it
could have been state as well.
2) PA archives. I bet they have records on microfilm somewhere. Their
digital archives can be found at http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/
3) Local newspapers - I bet even in a large city like Philadelphia, bigamy
will make the news. Try http://www.newspaperarchive.com LDS may have some
too. Possibly ProQuest.
4) Local law libraries, you have to know the court and session. If you are
nice to the librarian they will usually help you.

Linda Altman

My great-great-uncle spent 6 months in prison for bigamy. At the time
he was living in Philadelphia. He was relased circa 12 April 1914.
Does anyone know if it's possible to access this record? Would he
have been in a jail, a prison, a penitentary?

Sincerely, Steve Orlen
Tucson, AZ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Records for Prisoner in Philadelphia in 1914 #general

L. Altman <familysearch@...>
 

Prison records are public records. They can be found in several places:
1) the local court where the paperwork went through - there may or may not
have been a trial. Could be city or county court most likely although it
could have been state as well.
2) PA archives. I bet they have records on microfilm somewhere. Their
digital archives can be found at http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/
3) Local newspapers - I bet even in a large city like Philadelphia, bigamy
will make the news. Try http://www.newspaperarchive.com LDS may have some
too. Possibly ProQuest.
4) Local law libraries, you have to know the court and session. If you are
nice to the librarian they will usually help you.

Linda Altman

My great-great-uncle spent 6 months in prison for bigamy. At the time
he was living in Philadelphia. He was relased circa 12 April 1914.
Does anyone know if it's possible to access this record? Would he
have been in a jail, a prison, a penitentary?

Sincerely, Steve Orlen
Tucson, AZ


Re: 1900-era documents for immigration to USA #general

L. Altman <familysearch@...>
 

Joy:
try this link to the US Immigration Code:
http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/shared/aboutus/statistics/legishist/index.htm

It covers just about everything you want to know.

Linda Altman
Raleigh, NC

I hope that some of you out in "gen-land" are experts on documentation needed
for immigration. At the turn of the 20th century, what kind of documentation
would an immigrant actually have to provide in order to board a ship (and be
allowed to continue the voyage)? Name? Age? Occupation? Destination? Could
they falsify all of that?........

Joy Weaver
East Islip, NY USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 1900-era documents for immigration to USA #general

L. Altman <familysearch@...>
 

Joy:
try this link to the US Immigration Code:
http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/shared/aboutus/statistics/legishist/index.htm

It covers just about everything you want to know.

Linda Altman
Raleigh, NC

I hope that some of you out in "gen-land" are experts on documentation needed
for immigration. At the turn of the 20th century, what kind of documentation
would an immigrant actually have to provide in order to board a ship (and be
allowed to continue the voyage)? Name? Age? Occupation? Destination? Could
they falsify all of that?........

Joy Weaver
East Islip, NY USA


Cost of copies from National Archives in NYC #general

Sandy Malek
 

Stan Goodman wrote:
$.50/page is the price for making Xerox copies on their machine when you are
there doing it yourself. I think the price for ordering a page is $10.

It is 50 cents per page even if they make the copies for you and mail them,
at least to US addresses. The $10 charge if you order >from the National
Archives is a minimum mail order charge. It covers 20 pages at 50 cents per page.
Therefore, you can order perhaps three sets of immigration documents (which
will normally include Petition for Naturalization, Declaration of Intent and
Certificate of Arrival) for the initial $10 charge. If you are ordering more
at the same time, it is charged at 50 cents per page over the minimum $10
charge.

One of the archivists in NYC took the trouble to write to me and explain how
this works as he returned a check I had sent which was way too large. I was
relying on the calculation of fee posted at www.italiangen.org which implies
that the cost is $10 per request.

So, unless you are in a huge hurry, send your request by mail, as it is
cheaper than the online cost. And the NYC branch of NARA has been responding
within about two weeks with full documentation.

Sandy Malek
Los Angeles, California


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cost of copies from National Archives in NYC #general

Sandy Malek
 

Stan Goodman wrote:
$.50/page is the price for making Xerox copies on their machine when you are
there doing it yourself. I think the price for ordering a page is $10.

It is 50 cents per page even if they make the copies for you and mail them,
at least to US addresses. The $10 charge if you order >from the National
Archives is a minimum mail order charge. It covers 20 pages at 50 cents per page.
Therefore, you can order perhaps three sets of immigration documents (which
will normally include Petition for Naturalization, Declaration of Intent and
Certificate of Arrival) for the initial $10 charge. If you are ordering more
at the same time, it is charged at 50 cents per page over the minimum $10
charge.

One of the archivists in NYC took the trouble to write to me and explain how
this works as he returned a check I had sent which was way too large. I was
relying on the calculation of fee posted at www.italiangen.org which implies
that the cost is $10 per request.

So, unless you are in a huge hurry, send your request by mail, as it is
cheaper than the online cost. And the NYC branch of NARA has been responding
within about two weeks with full documentation.

Sandy Malek
Los Angeles, California


Re: Desfardin Society at Mt. Zion #general

Peregrine Maitland <273589roots@...>
 

Suggest you Google the spelling "d'sfardim" and "d'sphardim" for
landsmanshaftn that contain this in their name. This is most probably not
the full name of the society.

Cf. "Beth Hamidrash Hagodol D'Sphardim"

You can also call the cemetery and confirm whether their records contain a
more complete name of the society.

Also check http://home.att.net/~landsmanshaft/ for more landsmanshaft
resources.

Peregrine Maitland
273589roots@...
To reply, delete all numeric characters
from the return address given.
"Fran Segall" <FranSegall@...> wrote
<SNIP>
In searching the new Mt. Zion Cemetery database, I find 101 names listed
with the society as "Desfardin". One of them is a Hannah STRICK, who
may be my ggrandmother. I've never before heard the name/word
Desfardin, and Googling it turns up nothing useful, nor does a search of
the JewishGen web site.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Desfardin Society at Mt. Zion #general

Peregrine Maitland <273589roots@...>
 

Suggest you Google the spelling "d'sfardim" and "d'sphardim" for
landsmanshaftn that contain this in their name. This is most probably not
the full name of the society.

Cf. "Beth Hamidrash Hagodol D'Sphardim"

You can also call the cemetery and confirm whether their records contain a
more complete name of the society.

Also check http://home.att.net/~landsmanshaft/ for more landsmanshaft
resources.

Peregrine Maitland
273589roots@...
To reply, delete all numeric characters
from the return address given.
"Fran Segall" <FranSegall@...> wrote
<SNIP>
In searching the new Mt. Zion Cemetery database, I find 101 names listed
with the society as "Desfardin". One of them is a Hannah STRICK, who
may be my ggrandmother. I've never before heard the name/word
Desfardin, and Googling it turns up nothing useful, nor does a search of
the JewishGen web site.


Re: Baltimore death and burial #general

mhlcswc2@...
 

I can only be general regarding resources in Baltimore. The Pratt has a
remote "ask The Librarian" http://www.pratt.lib.md.us/ that might help you.
There is one Jewish funeral home in Baltimore, Sol Levinson and Brothers, and
for many years they have been the only one. Others have come and gone. This
website may take you to them. http://www.jfda.org/listing_name.html. I would
also try The Jewish Museum because they have all sorts of genealogical
records, among them being records >from defunct funeral homes. I tried to look
for my Mother's funeral record and knew the date, the funeral director, etc.
They had records that should have included my Mother but they didn't so if it's
not there that's not proof that it didn't exist. Their website is
www.jewishmuseummd.org .

Good luck.

Marcia Hoffman
Baltimore, MD

Before I start with death certificates, does someone know what is the
most efficient (remote) way to find information about a death in a
Baltimore Maryland construction accident in early 1906? I do not have a
precise date, but it was supposedly shortly before his son was born on 1
June.
An indexed newspaper perhaps or someone >from the local Hevra Kadisha?
The burial may have been elsewhere, because the family was in Baltimore
on a temporary basis, because of the construction job. (Even if we find
a grave, I do not assume there is a tombstone.)

Israel Pickholtz


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re:Baltimore death and burial #general

mhlcswc2@...
 

I can only be general regarding resources in Baltimore. The Pratt has a
remote "ask The Librarian" http://www.pratt.lib.md.us/ that might help you.
There is one Jewish funeral home in Baltimore, Sol Levinson and Brothers, and
for many years they have been the only one. Others have come and gone. This
website may take you to them. http://www.jfda.org/listing_name.html. I would
also try The Jewish Museum because they have all sorts of genealogical
records, among them being records >from defunct funeral homes. I tried to look
for my Mother's funeral record and knew the date, the funeral director, etc.
They had records that should have included my Mother but they didn't so if it's
not there that's not proof that it didn't exist. Their website is
www.jewishmuseummd.org .

Good luck.

Marcia Hoffman
Baltimore, MD

Before I start with death certificates, does someone know what is the
most efficient (remote) way to find information about a death in a
Baltimore Maryland construction accident in early 1906? I do not have a
precise date, but it was supposedly shortly before his son was born on 1
June.
An indexed newspaper perhaps or someone >from the local Hevra Kadisha?
The burial may have been elsewhere, because the family was in Baltimore
on a temporary basis, because of the construction job. (Even if we find
a grave, I do not assume there is a tombstone.)

Israel Pickholtz


The JGS of Montreal - Summer Schedule of Events #general

Merle Kastner <merlek@...>
 

Dear Genners,

As is customary, there will be no JGS of Montreal meeting in July.
Nor will there be a Sunday Morning Family Tree Workshop
in either July or August.

Our next scheduled events are as follows and are also posted on
our website: http://jgs-montreal.org/

=August 21, 2006 - post IAJGS New York Conference Meeting,
featuring individual reports by those who will have attended the
conference (August 13 - 18).
(Venue: Gelber Conference Centre)

=September 10, 2006 - Sunday Morning Family Tree Workshop
Time and venue to be announced.

=September 18, 2006 - Joe King, author and historian, lecturing
on the history of the Jewish population of Montreal and Quebec
(Venue: Gelber Conference Centre)

For all information on our
upcoming meetings & Sunday Morning Family Tree Workshops:
The JGS of Montreal Hotline - 24 hours a day:
484-0969

Our meetings and workshops are open to all - we welcome
newcomers and interested friends.

Wishing everyone a very enjoyable summer.

Merle Kastner
JGS of Montreal, Programming
merlek@...
~~~~


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The JGS of Montreal - Summer Schedule of Events #general

Merle Kastner <merlek@...>
 

Dear Genners,

As is customary, there will be no JGS of Montreal meeting in July.
Nor will there be a Sunday Morning Family Tree Workshop
in either July or August.

Our next scheduled events are as follows and are also posted on
our website: http://jgs-montreal.org/

=August 21, 2006 - post IAJGS New York Conference Meeting,
featuring individual reports by those who will have attended the
conference (August 13 - 18).
(Venue: Gelber Conference Centre)

=September 10, 2006 - Sunday Morning Family Tree Workshop
Time and venue to be announced.

=September 18, 2006 - Joe King, author and historian, lecturing
on the history of the Jewish population of Montreal and Quebec
(Venue: Gelber Conference Centre)

For all information on our
upcoming meetings & Sunday Morning Family Tree Workshops:
The JGS of Montreal Hotline - 24 hours a day:
484-0969

Our meetings and workshops are open to all - we welcome
newcomers and interested friends.

Wishing everyone a very enjoyable summer.

Merle Kastner
JGS of Montreal, Programming
merlek@...
~~~~


Searching the Mt. Zion Cemetery database #lodz #poland

Steven Lasky <steve725@...>
 

Greetings all,
I have created a page on my website that suggests the best ways to do a
search on the Mt. Zion Cemetery database. If you are having problems with
your searches, it might pay to take a look at it. The link to this page is
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/erc-scdb.htm .
If you are looking for all the burial entries for a certain surname without
exact knowledge of where they are buried, I would urge you to search all
four available cemetery databases, i.e. those of Mts. Zion, Hebron, Carmel
and Moriah. These databases combined contain information on over half a
million burials.
I am hoping that the searchable databases for Mts. Judah and Ararat will be
created and put online before the August conference. I will let you know
when they are.
As a side note, July 1st marked the one-year anniversary of my virtual
museum website. I am proud of what I have accomplished and am thankful to
all those who have graciously have helped me along the way. I have just
revamped many pages on my site and have added new ones. I hope that you like
what I have done. The best is yet to come.

Best regards,
Steve Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com


Cemetery database websites:
www.mounthebroncemetery.com
www.mountcarmelcemetery.com
www.mountzioncemetery.com
www.mountmoriahcemeteryofnewjersey.org


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Searching the Mt. Zion Cemetery database #lodz #poland

Steven Lasky <steve725@...>
 

Greetings all,
I have created a page on my website that suggests the best ways to do a
search on the Mt. Zion Cemetery database. If you are having problems with
your searches, it might pay to take a look at it. The link to this page is
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/erc-scdb.htm .
If you are looking for all the burial entries for a certain surname without
exact knowledge of where they are buried, I would urge you to search all
four available cemetery databases, i.e. those of Mts. Zion, Hebron, Carmel
and Moriah. These databases combined contain information on over half a
million burials.
I am hoping that the searchable databases for Mts. Judah and Ararat will be
created and put online before the August conference. I will let you know
when they are.
As a side note, July 1st marked the one-year anniversary of my virtual
museum website. I am proud of what I have accomplished and am thankful to
all those who have graciously have helped me along the way. I have just
revamped many pages on my site and have added new ones. I hope that you like
what I have done. The best is yet to come.

Best regards,
Steve Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com


Cemetery database websites:
www.mounthebroncemetery.com
www.mountcarmelcemetery.com
www.mountzioncemetery.com
www.mountmoriahcemeteryofnewjersey.org