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Re: Looking for a book #austria-czech

Lynn Saul <lynnsaul@...>
 

I did not reply to Tom's message because I don't have the specific
information he requested, BUT
I am >from Pittsburgh originally, and the formation of Czechoslovakia in
Pittsburgh is a big historic deal there. Much of it has been memorialized
at the Cathedral of Learning at the University of Pittsburgh. The
University of Pittsburgh has much of its catalog, especially historic
documents, digitalized online--do a search on their library. (I don't have
the URL but it's easy to search for the University of Pittsburgh library.)
Also, the Heinz History Center in Pittsburgh has an excellent archive and
library. (Off-topic, they have an outstanding collection of Jewish archival
materials in the Rauh Jewish archives.)
Lynn Saul
former Pittsburgher
Tucson AZ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ida & Joseph Schwarcz" <idayosef@...>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@...>
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:31 AM
Subject: RE: [h-sig] Looking for a book


Dear Tom,
I used to live in Pittsburgh and I still have connections there, so if no
one else can help, I can e-mail to my friends in Pittsburgh to get you the
info.There is a Jewish Genealogical Society in Pittsburgh that could
possibly get your the info before me!
Shabbat shalom
Ida

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Venetianer [mailto:tom.vene@...]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:36 AM
To: H-SIG
Subject: [h-sig] Looking for a book


Dear friends,

If any of you has access to the book below, please get in touch off list.
Many thanks in advance.

Tom

The Slovaks and the Pittsburgh Pact.
published by the Slovak Catholic Federation of America, 1934
--
...........................................
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@...>
Sao Paulo - Brazil

Sopron Holocaust Memorial #hungary

Carol J. Robinson <caroljr@...>
 

One of our members brought to my attention the Sopron Holocaust
memorial. He has an overview picture and images with some names, but he
does not have images of all the names. If any of you have images >from
this memorial, could you please contact me at caroljr@....

Also if anyone is going to H-SIG areas this summer, please look for
opportunities to photograph Holocaust memorials. Remember that we need
an overview image as well as readable images of all names possible.

We are currently transcribing a very large Holocaust memorial >from
Budapest. Because of its size, we could use additional transcribers.
Contact me to volunteer.

Carol Robinson
H-SIG Research Coordinator

Re: Shimson Shmuel Frischman from Beregszasz buried somewhere in NYC #hungary

d pfalzer <d_pfalzer@...>
 

I would suggest that you look for your great
grandfather in the city directories for NYC. This
would allow you to trace him until he no longer shows
up, and thus give you a possible death year for him.

By the way, these records may be available to you at
the main branch of your public library. They are
available to me here in Tampa, Florida.

I also wish to add that Beregszasz is a community that
I do have ancestors from. These ancestors are my
Hungarian, but not Jewish branch. Nevertheless I am
interested in anyone who manages to have some success
researching people >from this location.

Denise Pfalzer
Tampa, Florida

searching:
Morgenstern, Neuman in Murska Sobota


--- yehuda frischman <rebyidel@...> wrote:

Dear Friends,

Having tracked down quite a bit on the Schwartz side
of the Family, I will now endeavor to do the same on
the Frischman side. My Great grandfather was
Shimshon
Schmuel Frischman. He came over to America and
settled in NYC in the Late 1870s. We have a strong
suspicion that he was >from BEREGSZASZ, Hungary, as
the
marriage certificate of his son (my grandfather and
namesake's brother) Morris (Moshe) Frischman lists
his
birthplace as BEREGSZASZ. I actually have a yiddish
business card of his, as owner of a delicatessen on
the Lower East side. I know that he was born in
1848
and his wife was the former Miriam Ackerman. I also
know that he is buried somewhere in NYC. But that's
about as far as I can get. Oh, one other curiosity:

About 10 years ago, I happened to see an article in
an
Aguda newsletter about Camp Aguda. The camp
director
was Meir Frischman. That in itself was interesting,
but what really astounded me was the picture: Meir
Frischman could have passed for my father (who's now
82, AMV"S) 50 years ago, virtually identical! I
contacted him and though his family is >from Hungary,
we weren't able to connect the dots. I think the
first step is to find Shimson Shmuel's matzeva, to
determine his father's name. Can anyone help me?

Sincerely,

Yehuda Frischman, L.Ac.
LOS ANGELES

Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Looking for a book #hungary

Lynn Saul <lynnsaul@...>
 

I did not reply to Tom's message because I don't have the specific
information he requested, BUT
I am >from Pittsburgh originally, and the formation of Czechoslovakia in
Pittsburgh is a big historic deal there. Much of it has been memorialized
at the Cathedral of Learning at the University of Pittsburgh. The
University of Pittsburgh has much of its catalog, especially historic
documents, digitalized online--do a search on their library. (I don't have
the URL but it's easy to search for the University of Pittsburgh library.)
Also, the Heinz History Center in Pittsburgh has an excellent archive and
library. (Off-topic, they have an outstanding collection of Jewish archival
materials in the Rauh Jewish archives.)
Lynn Saul
former Pittsburgher
Tucson AZ

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ida & Joseph Schwarcz" <idayosef@...>
To: "H-SIG" <h-sig@...>
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 1:31 AM
Subject: RE: [h-sig] Looking for a book


Dear Tom,
I used to live in Pittsburgh and I still have connections there, so if no
one else can help, I can e-mail to my friends in Pittsburgh to get you the
info.There is a Jewish Genealogical Society in Pittsburgh that could
possibly get your the info before me!
Shabbat shalom
Ida

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Venetianer [mailto:tom.vene@...]
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:36 AM
To: H-SIG
Subject: [h-sig] Looking for a book


Dear friends,

If any of you has access to the book below, please get in touch off list.
Many thanks in advance.

Tom

The Slovaks and the Pittsburgh Pact.
published by the Slovak Catholic Federation of America, 1934
--
...........................................
Tom Venetianer <mailto:tom.vene@...>
Sao Paulo - Brazil

Hungary SIG #Hungary Sopron Holocaust Memorial #hungary

Carol J. Robinson <caroljr@...>
 

One of our members brought to my attention the Sopron Holocaust
memorial. He has an overview picture and images with some names, but he
does not have images of all the names. If any of you have images >from
this memorial, could you please contact me at caroljr@....

Also if anyone is going to H-SIG areas this summer, please look for
opportunities to photograph Holocaust memorials. Remember that we need
an overview image as well as readable images of all names possible.

We are currently transcribing a very large Holocaust memorial >from
Budapest. Because of its size, we could use additional transcribers.
Contact me to volunteer.

Carol Robinson
H-SIG Research Coordinator

Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Shimson Shmuel Frischman from Beregszasz buried somewhere in NYC #hungary

d pfalzer <d_pfalzer@...>
 

I would suggest that you look for your great
grandfather in the city directories for NYC. This
would allow you to trace him until he no longer shows
up, and thus give you a possible death year for him.

By the way, these records may be available to you at
the main branch of your public library. They are
available to me here in Tampa, Florida.

I also wish to add that Beregszasz is a community that
I do have ancestors from. These ancestors are my
Hungarian, but not Jewish branch. Nevertheless I am
interested in anyone who manages to have some success
researching people >from this location.

Denise Pfalzer
Tampa, Florida

searching:
Morgenstern, Neuman in Murska Sobota


--- yehuda frischman <rebyidel@...> wrote:

Dear Friends,

Having tracked down quite a bit on the Schwartz side
of the Family, I will now endeavor to do the same on
the Frischman side. My Great grandfather was
Shimshon
Schmuel Frischman. He came over to America and
settled in NYC in the Late 1870s. We have a strong
suspicion that he was >from BEREGSZASZ, Hungary, as
the
marriage certificate of his son (my grandfather and
namesake's brother) Morris (Moshe) Frischman lists
his
birthplace as BEREGSZASZ. I actually have a yiddish
business card of his, as owner of a delicatessen on
the Lower East side. I know that he was born in
1848
and his wife was the former Miriam Ackerman. I also
know that he is buried somewhere in NYC. But that's
about as far as I can get. Oh, one other curiosity:

About 10 years ago, I happened to see an article in
an
Aguda newsletter about Camp Aguda. The camp
director
was Meir Frischman. That in itself was interesting,
but what really astounded me was the picture: Meir
Frischman could have passed for my father (who's now
82, AMV"S) 50 years ago, virtually identical! I
contacted him and though his family is >from Hungary,
we weren't able to connect the dots. I think the
first step is to find Shimson Shmuel's matzeva, to
determine his father's name. Can anyone help me?

Sincerely,

Yehuda Frischman, L.Ac.
LOS ANGELES

KLEINER Bradford #unitedkingdom

Aubrey Jacobus <zen28027@...>
 

Searching for Rudolf or Leon KLEINER living in Bradford 1906 married
Gertie Sircus ( Liverpool )

Information gratefully recieved

Aubrey Jcobus
London

JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom KLEINER Bradford #unitedkingdom

Aubrey Jacobus <zen28027@...>
 

Searching for Rudolf or Leon KLEINER living in Bradford 1906 married
Gertie Sircus ( Liverpool )

Information gratefully recieved

Aubrey Jcobus
London

Re: UK Immigration and/or Marriage Records - Villiers #general

jeremy frankel
 

Dear Sharon,

At the risk of sounding very "20th century," the Mormons have
microfilmed English/Welsh BMD indices up to 1980. If you have any
idea of the timeframe, and you live near a Family History Center, you
could order the relevant quarter year index and see if the couple is
listed. There may be some FHCs that have these records a part of
their permanent collection. I say this because two FHCs in the San
Francisco Bay Area (Oakland and Menlo Park) have long runs of this
record series.

Good luck,

--
Jeremy G Frankel
ex Edgware, London, England
Berkeley, California, USA

EBIN: Russia -> New York, USA
FRANKEL: Poland -> London, England
GOLD (RATH): Praszka, Poland -> London, England
KOENIGSBERG: Vilkaviskis, Lithuania -> London, England -> NYC, NY, USA
LEVY (later LEADER): Kalisz, Poland -> London, England
PRINCZ/PRINCE: Krakow, Poland -> London, England -> NYC, NY, USA

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: UK Immigration and/or Marriage Records - Villiers #general

jeremy frankel
 

Dear Sharon,

At the risk of sounding very "20th century," the Mormons have
microfilmed English/Welsh BMD indices up to 1980. If you have any
idea of the timeframe, and you live near a Family History Center, you
could order the relevant quarter year index and see if the couple is
listed. There may be some FHCs that have these records a part of
their permanent collection. I say this because two FHCs in the San
Francisco Bay Area (Oakland and Menlo Park) have long runs of this
record series.

Good luck,

--
Jeremy G Frankel
ex Edgware, London, England
Berkeley, California, USA

EBIN: Russia -> New York, USA
FRANKEL: Poland -> London, England
GOLD (RATH): Praszka, Poland -> London, England
KOENIGSBERG: Vilkaviskis, Lithuania -> London, England -> NYC, NY, USA
LEVY (later LEADER): Kalisz, Poland -> London, England
PRINCZ/PRINCE: Krakow, Poland -> London, England -> NYC, NY, USA

Re: Auschwitz victims suitcases: NADELMANN #general

Ruth and Bruce Lynn <lynn33@...>
 

Re: Sally Goodman's posting, below, a friend recognized my maiden name,
NADELMANN, on a suitcase at Auschwitz, and sent me a photo. It belonged to
my father's first cousin, Dr. Moritz NADELMANN's wife, Clara BUTTERMILCH
NADELMANN. She and her husband lived in Stettin and Berlin, and were
transported to Terezin in 1943, where he died. She "disappeared" after
transport to Auschwitz on 9 Oct. 1944, at age 64.

Ruth Nadelman Lynn
Lexington, MA
lynn33@...


This evening I watched the DVR of Elie Weisel and Oprah's visit to
Auschwitz.

As they walked through the Museum, they stopped at the window of the
suitcases and the name VESELY jumped out at me. I paused and forwarded,
paused and rewound until I could see the name clearly. VESELY is a prominent
collateral name in my family's history. How eerie this felt.

Then I saw other suitcases with names. Again, I paused and forwarded and
rewound until I could make out the names and information. I list them below
as I was able to see them in case someone is interested:

Petr EISLER #6446, born 20-111-1942, a child;
Ruth Sara LAX;
Fanni Sara KORNITZER, Wien; and
LEVKOVIC Alex.

Perhaps when someone visits Auschwitz, they could photograph the suitcases
with names, if permitted, and post them. It really makes this so very
personal.

Sally Goodman
Palm Springs/LA, CA

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Auschwitz victims suitcases: NADELMANN #general

Ruth and Bruce Lynn <lynn33@...>
 

Re: Sally Goodman's posting, below, a friend recognized my maiden name,
NADELMANN, on a suitcase at Auschwitz, and sent me a photo. It belonged to
my father's first cousin, Dr. Moritz NADELMANN's wife, Clara BUTTERMILCH
NADELMANN. She and her husband lived in Stettin and Berlin, and were
transported to Terezin in 1943, where he died. She "disappeared" after
transport to Auschwitz on 9 Oct. 1944, at age 64.

Ruth Nadelman Lynn
Lexington, MA
lynn33@...


This evening I watched the DVR of Elie Weisel and Oprah's visit to
Auschwitz.

As they walked through the Museum, they stopped at the window of the
suitcases and the name VESELY jumped out at me. I paused and forwarded,
paused and rewound until I could see the name clearly. VESELY is a prominent
collateral name in my family's history. How eerie this felt.

Then I saw other suitcases with names. Again, I paused and forwarded and
rewound until I could make out the names and information. I list them below
as I was able to see them in case someone is interested:

Petr EISLER #6446, born 20-111-1942, a child;
Ruth Sara LAX;
Fanni Sara KORNITZER, Wien; and
LEVKOVIC Alex.

Perhaps when someone visits Auschwitz, they could photograph the suitcases
with names, if permitted, and post them. It really makes this so very
personal.

Sally Goodman
Palm Springs/LA, CA

Not Conversant in Yiddish/Hebrew [was English-language Jewish Newspapers] #general

s_wiener@...
 

Hi, Fellow-genners,

I am intrigued by Helene's post and have the following
situational questions -

Jews have lived [and continue to live] among many
peoples. They have always learned the lingua franca
in order to interact and transact business. Until
recent times, did Jews forgo learning Hebrew or being
able to converse in Yiddish, Ladino, etc. once they
had become comfortable in the mainstream? It was my
understanding that Jews were never *fully* in the
mainstream but existed on the periphery.

In the last century, a family might feel integrated
enough into the larger society [i.e. German, Austrian,
British, American...] so that reading [or the ability
to read] a Yiddish paper wouldn't be seen as necessary
- then a birth or obituary notice would be posted in
the main local paper just like everybody else.

Did many eastern European Jews come to the US in the
late 1700s or early 1800s? Western European Jews who
arrived in the US back then most probably were not
Yiddish speakers.

Many thanks in advance for your insight,
Shellie Wiener
San Francisco, CA
-----
Helene Kenvin <hekenvin@...> says in part:

... I should have mentioned that this branch of my
family has lived in the US for some nine generations.
In 1903, these ancestors were unlikely to have read or
put announcements in either The Forward or any other
non-English-language newspaper.

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Not Conversant in Yiddish/Hebrew [was English-language Jewish Newspapers] #general

s_wiener@...
 

Hi, Fellow-genners,

I am intrigued by Helene's post and have the following
situational questions -

Jews have lived [and continue to live] among many
peoples. They have always learned the lingua franca
in order to interact and transact business. Until
recent times, did Jews forgo learning Hebrew or being
able to converse in Yiddish, Ladino, etc. once they
had become comfortable in the mainstream? It was my
understanding that Jews were never *fully* in the
mainstream but existed on the periphery.

In the last century, a family might feel integrated
enough into the larger society [i.e. German, Austrian,
British, American...] so that reading [or the ability
to read] a Yiddish paper wouldn't be seen as necessary
- then a birth or obituary notice would be posted in
the main local paper just like everybody else.

Did many eastern European Jews come to the US in the
late 1700s or early 1800s? Western European Jews who
arrived in the US back then most probably were not
Yiddish speakers.

Many thanks in advance for your insight,
Shellie Wiener
San Francisco, CA
-----
Helene Kenvin <hekenvin@...> says in part:

... I should have mentioned that this branch of my
family has lived in the US for some nine generations.
In 1903, these ancestors were unlikely to have read or
put announcements in either The Forward or any other
non-English-language newspaper.

Sayde (Hirschhorn) Scwartz family search #general

Sandra Yoder
 

My information about Sayde "Barsheva" (HIRSCHHORN) SCHWARTZ, born in NY in
1902, states that she had a son, Raymond, who had at least 10 children, one
also called Raymond and a daughter, Jean.

I can't find any other details about his children or other descendants of
Sayde even after contacting a Hirschhorn cousin and inquiring of other
Hirschhorn's.

Hopefully someone reading this can lead me to this specific family. I know
the family came >from Latvia, lived in NY and then moved to Essex County, NJ
where Sayde's parents, Rebecca (Greenberg) and Louis are buried.

Thank you for your help.

Sandra Yoder
Goshen IN

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sayde (Hirschhorn) Scwartz family search #general

Sandra Yoder
 

My information about Sayde "Barsheva" (HIRSCHHORN) SCHWARTZ, born in NY in
1902, states that she had a son, Raymond, who had at least 10 children, one
also called Raymond and a daughter, Jean.

I can't find any other details about his children or other descendants of
Sayde even after contacting a Hirschhorn cousin and inquiring of other
Hirschhorn's.

Hopefully someone reading this can lead me to this specific family. I know
the family came >from Latvia, lived in NY and then moved to Essex County, NJ
where Sayde's parents, Rebecca (Greenberg) and Louis are buried.

Thank you for your help.

Sandra Yoder
Goshen IN

Incorrect Slavit death certificate #general

Sandra Yoder
 

I received a death certificate for Dinah SLAVIT, wife of Bernard, daughter
of Lester GOODMAN. She was born about 1862 in "Russia" and passed on
8/11/1937 in Brooklyn.

I am researching Dora Slavit, born about 1862 in Latvia, wife of Moses
"Morris", children Jack and Bessie and possibly daughter of Aaron and
Pauline Greenberg.

If you would like this certificate and/or have information about Dora, her
family and descendants, please contact me.

Thank you,
Sandra Yoder
Goshen IN

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Incorrect Slavit death certificate #general

Sandra Yoder
 

I received a death certificate for Dinah SLAVIT, wife of Bernard, daughter
of Lester GOODMAN. She was born about 1862 in "Russia" and passed on
8/11/1937 in Brooklyn.

I am researching Dora Slavit, born about 1862 in Latvia, wife of Moses
"Morris", children Jack and Bessie and possibly daughter of Aaron and
Pauline Greenberg.

If you would like this certificate and/or have information about Dora, her
family and descendants, please contact me.

Thank you,
Sandra Yoder
Goshen IN

Re: Death Certificates in New York Archives #general

Joan Parker <joanparker@...>
 

from what I understand these databases are a constant work in progress as
volunteers complete assignments. I suggest that these databases be checked
from time to time to see the additions. This should be SOP (standard
operational procedure) on any and all databases to which one subscribes
searching for family.
Joanie

Joan Parker, Immediate Past President
JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.
joanparker@...
Searching: GOLDBERG,GOODSTEIN,BERGER-Plock, Poland/Russia; Bronx and Brooklyn,NY;
PINKUS, WINOGRAD, ROSEN-Brest, Litovsk; Grodno, Russia; Bronx and Brooklyn, NY;
WEISS-Brooklyn, NY; NEIBERG-Brooklyn, NY; DEL PINO-Brooklyn, NY;
KATZ, GELFAND-Minsk, Belarus; Bronx, NY, Miami and Miami Beach, FL.

It was suggested that the researcher seeking a NYC death certificate for
Shimshon S. Frischman use the Italian and German American databases. I,
however, have found them to be very incomplete. I have tried with each
database update to find two ancestors whose deaths fit into the time
frames and boroughs covered and found neither of them. I know they're
dead. I don't think anyone can be sure of finding the searched for
individuals there.
Irene Berman

JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Death Certificates in New York Archives #general

Joan Parker <joanparker@...>
 

from what I understand these databases are a constant work in progress as
volunteers complete assignments. I suggest that these databases be checked
from time to time to see the additions. This should be SOP (standard
operational procedure) on any and all databases to which one subscribes
searching for family.
Joanie

Joan Parker, Immediate Past President
JGS of Greater Miami, Inc.
joanparker@...
Searching: GOLDBERG,GOODSTEIN,BERGER-Plock, Poland/Russia; Bronx and Brooklyn,NY;
PINKUS, WINOGRAD, ROSEN-Brest, Litovsk; Grodno, Russia; Bronx and Brooklyn, NY;
WEISS-Brooklyn, NY; NEIBERG-Brooklyn, NY; DEL PINO-Brooklyn, NY;
KATZ, GELFAND-Minsk, Belarus; Bronx, NY, Miami and Miami Beach, FL.

It was suggested that the researcher seeking a NYC death certificate for
Shimshon S. Frischman use the Italian and German American databases. I,
however, have found them to be very incomplete. I have tried with each
database update to find two ancestors whose deaths fit into the time
frames and boroughs covered and found neither of them. I know they're
dead. I don't think anyone can be sure of finding the searched for
individuals there.
Irene Berman