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Translation Help #poland

Jaclyn Sachs <jsachs@...>
 

Dear SIG members:

I have posted the death record of my gggf, Nochum KRACOWSKI (ViewMate
file VM7976), who died in 1890 in Bialystok, Poland. I would appreciate
any help translating this document >from Russian. If the image on the
site is not large enough, please e-mail me, and I will send you a
different one.

Thank you!!

Jaclyn Sachs
Padova, Italy

Please respond privately.

You can view it by clicking on the following link:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7976


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Translation Help #poland

Jaclyn Sachs <jsachs@...>
 

Dear SIG members:

I have posted the death record of my gggf, Nochum KRACOWSKI (ViewMate
file VM7976), who died in 1890 in Bialystok, Poland. I would appreciate
any help translating this document >from Russian. If the image on the
site is not large enough, please e-mail me, and I will send you a
different one.

Thank you!!

Jaclyn Sachs
Padova, Italy

Please respond privately.

You can view it by clicking on the following link:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7976


Name changes #poland

William Linden <william.linden@...>
 

Hello

I'm related to the European family name STURM.

During my research in Europe some pathways have of course pointed to the
USA as well.

I have not one example only of the change of names when coming to America.

Storm and Storms are derivatives of Sturm and for an English/German
spoken it's logical to make that change as the pronounciation of Sturm
is difficult in English and they still mean the same.
It's the likewise with the Dutch immigrants to the US. Dirck turned to
Derek amongst.

Moreover, Joseph to Joe, Marcus to Marc, David became Dave and the list
goes on.

I have found many likewise changes of names by Swedish immigrants.
My ancestor Friedrich Heinrich Isaac Sturm took the Swedish name Fredrik
Henrik Sturm. Isaac disappeared and might have been "risky". Swedish
Immigration clerks were hostile to immigrants between 1600-1800 and to
Jews in particular ( supported by Law ).

I find it logical to change name if that would render a better treatment
and 1930-1945 shows examples of this in order to save family lives.
Recently we had a news article here ( DN ) about keeping a "low profile"
being a Jew in Sweden. Our ethnicity is nothing we start to tell people
about if they don't ask and they seldom do. Moreover, you simply can't
see any orthodox Jewish clothing or any kind of otherwise evident Jewish
approach in Stockholm these days as it might become unpleasant or worse.

So I'm not convinced that change of names and "adaption to the
circumstances" at Ellis Islands was an uncommon issue. I could happen
of reasons that weren't anti-Semitic and I'm surprised of the
information that this behaviour has not been found in the US research.

Best regards >from Sweden

William Linden

Subject: changing name at Ellis Island
From: Crzprncess@...

Thanks Mark Halpern for your post about names not being changed at
Ellis Island. What I find very intriguing is that many of us have
heard that same Bubbe meises ("stories") >from our elderly relatives.
While I do believe the names were changed after immigration by the family
themselves, why do you think many told this same story?

Perhaps we can only speculate why the immigrants wanted their children and
grandchildren to believe it wasn't their own doing, but am curious what
others think may be the reason.

I'm also curious, if this is an appropriate topic for discussion,
whether it was more of a phenomenon in the United States, or did
immigrants in other countries tell the same stories to their children
as well?

Thanks,
Shelly Crane
USA crzprncess@...

names I am researching in Lomza-Suwalki, Poland: ALEXANDROWICZ,
BARANOWICZ, BUKOWICZ, DANOWSKI, DAWIDOWICZ, DOMB, FAJNTUCH, FINKIELSZTEYN
(Rajgrod), FRAJND, GABELMAN,
GOROWSKI, GORUSZ, HORUSZ, OROWICZ, LANGANS, LANGUS, LAZOWICZ, LIBERMAN,
LIPOWICZ, MILEWICZ, MILSZTEJN, PRESSMAN, TANIEWSKI, TOCZYLOWSKI,
ZLOCISTY,


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Name changes #poland

William Linden <william.linden@...>
 

Hello

I'm related to the European family name STURM.

During my research in Europe some pathways have of course pointed to the
USA as well.

I have not one example only of the change of names when coming to America.

Storm and Storms are derivatives of Sturm and for an English/German
spoken it's logical to make that change as the pronounciation of Sturm
is difficult in English and they still mean the same.
It's the likewise with the Dutch immigrants to the US. Dirck turned to
Derek amongst.

Moreover, Joseph to Joe, Marcus to Marc, David became Dave and the list
goes on.

I have found many likewise changes of names by Swedish immigrants.
My ancestor Friedrich Heinrich Isaac Sturm took the Swedish name Fredrik
Henrik Sturm. Isaac disappeared and might have been "risky". Swedish
Immigration clerks were hostile to immigrants between 1600-1800 and to
Jews in particular ( supported by Law ).

I find it logical to change name if that would render a better treatment
and 1930-1945 shows examples of this in order to save family lives.
Recently we had a news article here ( DN ) about keeping a "low profile"
being a Jew in Sweden. Our ethnicity is nothing we start to tell people
about if they don't ask and they seldom do. Moreover, you simply can't
see any orthodox Jewish clothing or any kind of otherwise evident Jewish
approach in Stockholm these days as it might become unpleasant or worse.

So I'm not convinced that change of names and "adaption to the
circumstances" at Ellis Islands was an uncommon issue. I could happen
of reasons that weren't anti-Semitic and I'm surprised of the
information that this behaviour has not been found in the US research.

Best regards >from Sweden

William Linden

Subject: changing name at Ellis Island
From: Crzprncess@...

Thanks Mark Halpern for your post about names not being changed at
Ellis Island. What I find very intriguing is that many of us have
heard that same Bubbe meises ("stories") >from our elderly relatives.
While I do believe the names were changed after immigration by the family
themselves, why do you think many told this same story?

Perhaps we can only speculate why the immigrants wanted their children and
grandchildren to believe it wasn't their own doing, but am curious what
others think may be the reason.

I'm also curious, if this is an appropriate topic for discussion,
whether it was more of a phenomenon in the United States, or did
immigrants in other countries tell the same stories to their children
as well?

Thanks,
Shelly Crane
USA crzprncess@...

names I am researching in Lomza-Suwalki, Poland: ALEXANDROWICZ,
BARANOWICZ, BUKOWICZ, DANOWSKI, DAWIDOWICZ, DOMB, FAJNTUCH, FINKIELSZTEYN
(Rajgrod), FRAJND, GABELMAN,
GOROWSKI, GORUSZ, HORUSZ, OROWICZ, LANGANS, LANGUS, LAZOWICZ, LIBERMAN,
LIPOWICZ, MILEWICZ, MILSZTEJN, PRESSMAN, TANIEWSKI, TOCZYLOWSKI,
ZLOCISTY,


Re: changing name at Ellis Island #poland

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

Personally, >from what I have learned in my own research - every person
[in my 6 family lines of research] whose names were changed - did so
AFTER arrival at their destination.

When leaving the port - they chose the name of the person meeting them,
or Americanized their own name then and there.... and there are so many
names which were chosen "out of thin air"!

As Mark has said, names were often changed during the Naturalization
process.

Although we may never learn when or where our ancestor's names were
changed - we don't give up trying!

Sylvia
SYLVIA FURSHMAN NUSINOV
PRESIDENT EMERITA
JGSPBCI, FL
USA
Searching:
ABELMAN, ARONSON, DOROGOI, FRUCHT/FURSHMAN, FURSTMAN, GORDON, MELC,
SHEINKEROVICH, SHIMENOVITZ, Kaunas,Vilnius, Moletai,Ukmerge, Lithuania
AVNER, AWNER,WECHSLER, EHRENPREIS,FRIEDHOFFER, Ukraine
NOUSSINOFF/NUSINOV, LENTOTCHNIK/LENT, Ukraine


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Re: changing name at Ellis Island #poland

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

Personally, >from what I have learned in my own research - every person
[in my 6 family lines of research] whose names were changed - did so
AFTER arrival at their destination.

When leaving the port - they chose the name of the person meeting them,
or Americanized their own name then and there.... and there are so many
names which were chosen "out of thin air"!

As Mark has said, names were often changed during the Naturalization
process.

Although we may never learn when or where our ancestor's names were
changed - we don't give up trying!

Sylvia
SYLVIA FURSHMAN NUSINOV
PRESIDENT EMERITA
JGSPBCI, FL
USA
Searching:
ABELMAN, ARONSON, DOROGOI, FRUCHT/FURSHMAN, FURSTMAN, GORDON, MELC,
SHEINKEROVICH, SHIMENOVITZ, Kaunas,Vilnius, Moletai,Ukmerge, Lithuania
AVNER, AWNER,WECHSLER, EHRENPREIS,FRIEDHOFFER, Ukraine
NOUSSINOFF/NUSINOV, LENTOTCHNIK/LENT, Ukraine


Migration from Warsaw to Palestine #general

Marilyn Feingold <mrl516@...>
 

I know that my cousin, Israel Malamud, immigrated >from Warsaw to Palestine
between 1915 and 1921. He was in Haiffa (Joppa). Is there anyone in Israel
that can help me find out more information about him when he lived in
Israel. I believe that he travelled to America >from Palestine with is
friend, Benard Gallent. Thanks. Marilyn Feingold

MILGROM,KORMAN-Tulchin SCHLAFFER, SZAFIR-Kamenka ( Moldova)
PEKARSKY/SOKOLOFSKY-Tashkent/Israel
STEINBERG/LERNER/ELKUS/MILGROM/Kishinev/Odessa
TESLER/MALAMUD/LUBER-Kamenka (Moldova) KOLKER/TARTAKOV/SPIVAK-Obodivaka
FELDMAN, SHENKER-Obodivka ROSENTHAL-Worone/Pittsburgh
MILTER-Kodima (Moldova) TONKONOGY-Frunza (Tashkent)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Migration from Warsaw to Palestine #general

Marilyn Feingold <mrl516@...>
 

I know that my cousin, Israel Malamud, immigrated >from Warsaw to Palestine
between 1915 and 1921. He was in Haiffa (Joppa). Is there anyone in Israel
that can help me find out more information about him when he lived in
Israel. I believe that he travelled to America >from Palestine with is
friend, Benard Gallent. Thanks. Marilyn Feingold

MILGROM,KORMAN-Tulchin SCHLAFFER, SZAFIR-Kamenka ( Moldova)
PEKARSKY/SOKOLOFSKY-Tashkent/Israel
STEINBERG/LERNER/ELKUS/MILGROM/Kishinev/Odessa
TESLER/MALAMUD/LUBER-Kamenka (Moldova) KOLKER/TARTAKOV/SPIVAK-Obodivaka
FELDMAN, SHENKER-Obodivka ROSENTHAL-Worone/Pittsburgh
MILTER-Kodima (Moldova) TONKONOGY-Frunza (Tashkent)


Search last name: AFTALION, city of Russe (ex Routschuk), Bulgaria, around 1840 #general

Aftalion, F (Fernando) <Fernando.Aftalion@...>
 

I'm located in New York, looking for my great great grandfather info,
thanks.

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Aftalion, F (Fernando) <Fernando.Aftalion@...>
 

I'm located in New York, looking for my great great grandfather info,
thanks.

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Research of the name RICH - Thankyou #unitedkingdom

Nick Rich <nick@...>
 

I would like to thank so many kind people who helped me to discover my
original family name >from a message I posted early in May. I asked how I
could find the original family name, >from some very sparse information I
already had, and was overwhelmed by the number of helpful responses I got. I
have tried to thank people personally, but if I forgot anyone, please accept
this as my thankyou. I would also like to offer a special thankyou to Malki
Katz, whose help has been totally significant in helping with my quest and
his patience in answering my many questions was truly appreciated.

I now know that the original name was RYDZ, and that the family were living
in Slesin, Konin, Kalisz Guburnia. This is a huge breakthrough for me, and
has inspired me to research the rest of my family in Russia and Poland.

If anyone else is researching this town I would like to hear >from you.

Kind regards,

Nick Rich.
Birmingham,
UK.


Passenger lists #unitedkingdom

Margaret Fullarton and David Mark <fullmark@...>
 

Hi all
Would someone be able to point me in the right direction for finding out
when and where one's antecedents arrived in England - specifically
Manchester? I know that the National Archives are probably the place to
start but I am unable to work out the process as I have no real information,
just the approximate dates of arrival in the city re the census information.
I am waiting for information >from the Police Museum regarding alien
registration so that may have some information but whatever anyone can tell
me I would be grateful for.

Thank you
Margaret Fullarton
Oaklands NSW Australia

Searching names: MARK ( Neimark, Naymark, Namark etc) CRAFT, SEWELSON
(Shavelovich), TOFF, KROPMAN, GOLDBLAT, LEVY - all Manchester region
originating in Lithuania and Latvia.


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Research of the name RICH - Thankyou #unitedkingdom

Nick Rich <nick@...>
 

I would like to thank so many kind people who helped me to discover my
original family name >from a message I posted early in May. I asked how I
could find the original family name, >from some very sparse information I
already had, and was overwhelmed by the number of helpful responses I got. I
have tried to thank people personally, but if I forgot anyone, please accept
this as my thankyou. I would also like to offer a special thankyou to Malki
Katz, whose help has been totally significant in helping with my quest and
his patience in answering my many questions was truly appreciated.

I now know that the original name was RYDZ, and that the family were living
in Slesin, Konin, Kalisz Guburnia. This is a huge breakthrough for me, and
has inspired me to research the rest of my family in Russia and Poland.

If anyone else is researching this town I would like to hear >from you.

Kind regards,

Nick Rich.
Birmingham,
UK.


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Passenger lists #unitedkingdom

Margaret Fullarton and David Mark <fullmark@...>
 

Hi all
Would someone be able to point me in the right direction for finding out
when and where one's antecedents arrived in England - specifically
Manchester? I know that the National Archives are probably the place to
start but I am unable to work out the process as I have no real information,
just the approximate dates of arrival in the city re the census information.
I am waiting for information >from the Police Museum regarding alien
registration so that may have some information but whatever anyone can tell
me I would be grateful for.

Thank you
Margaret Fullarton
Oaklands NSW Australia

Searching names: MARK ( Neimark, Naymark, Namark etc) CRAFT, SEWELSON
(Shavelovich), TOFF, KROPMAN, GOLDBLAT, LEVY - all Manchester region
originating in Lithuania and Latvia.


Searching KAPLAN nee EDELSTEIN in Pennsylvania #romania

Andrew Blumberg <ajb61@...>
 

Hello,

I am searching for descendants of Katie (or Katy) KAPLAN nee EDELSTEIN who
immigrated >from Bessarabia probably between 1895 and 1905.

She was living at or near 5th and McKean Street in Philadelphia in the early
1900's. Her husband's name is believed to have been Louis, and she had two
sisters names Anna and Sarah both with the surname German.

More information on this family is located at
http://geocities.com/germancousins/.

Thanks

Andrew Blumberg

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location (city, country)


Romania SIG #Romania Searching KAPLAN nee EDELSTEIN in Pennsylvania #romania

Andrew Blumberg <ajb61@...>
 

Hello,

I am searching for descendants of Katie (or Katy) KAPLAN nee EDELSTEIN who
immigrated >from Bessarabia probably between 1895 and 1905.

She was living at or near 5th and McKean Street in Philadelphia in the early
1900's. Her husband's name is believed to have been Louis, and she had two
sisters names Anna and Sarah both with the surname German.

More information on this family is located at
http://geocities.com/germancousins/.

Thanks

Andrew Blumberg

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location (city, country)


Need help with town name #romania

mcs919@...
 

Can anyone help me figure out what town my grandparents came from?
My 89 year old aunt gave me a name but no matter how much researching, I can't come
close to finding a place based on her pronunciation.
I will show her literal pronunciation of the town instead of actual or exact
spelling. "Vosh-con". It could also begin for an "F". The 1920 US census shows
Bucharest as their birthplace.

Thank you for your help or ideas in finding this place.

Marilyn Sheinberg
Holland, PA

Researching> BELL, GOLDBERG, HAIMBERG, SHEINBERG


Romania SIG #Romania Need help with town name #romania

mcs919@...
 

Can anyone help me figure out what town my grandparents came from?
My 89 year old aunt gave me a name but no matter how much researching, I can't come
close to finding a place based on her pronunciation.
I will show her literal pronunciation of the town instead of actual or exact
spelling. "Vosh-con". It could also begin for an "F". The 1920 US census shows
Bucharest as their birthplace.

Thank you for your help or ideas in finding this place.

Marilyn Sheinberg
Holland, PA

Researching> BELL, GOLDBERG, HAIMBERG, SHEINBERG


ROSENBAUMs in Kisvarda #hungary

Dan Breslau <sinespam@...>
 

My ggf, Edward ROSENBAUM, was the son of Leo ROSENBAUM of Kisvarda and
Cecilia (Cilly) WEISSBURG of Erdo Benye. Peter Spiro has a link
(http://ca.geocities.com/spirope/JewsHistoryKisvarda.PDF) to a
fascinating English translation of a book named /The History of the Jews
of Kisvard/a, by Istvan Nezo, which mentions two Leo ROSENBAUMs -- at
least, I think there must be two, as one was active in the synagogue in
1828, and another in 1933. The second one is more likely to have been my
gggf; the first was, perhaps, his gf.

I've also read the Yizkor book on Kisvarda (at
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/kisvarda/kis001.html#chap5 ). This book
mentions that the Rabbis of the town for many years were ROSENBAUMs. I
also recently found the story of Pinchas Tibor ROSENBAUM, one of the
seven subjects of the documentary film "Unlikely Heroes". (You can read
about Pinchas here: http://www.shalom-magazine.com/Article.php?id=420311 )

Naturally I'm curious to know if there's a family connection. Does
anyone have any more specific knowledge of the history of any or all of
these ROSENBAUMs?

And Peter Spiro, if you're reading this, thank you!

--
Searching:
BRESLAU/BRESLOVSKI, COHEN (Belarus/Poland);
Cohen, Kanarek(?), Michaelski(?) (Poland);
SCHREIBER, GRAD, ROSENBAUM, DEUTSCH, GLUCK, NEUVOHNER,
WEISSBURG, KESTENBAUM, ROSENBERG, ADLER, FRISCH (Hungary);
LANDAU, GRUNFELD, GOTTLIEB, BECKER (Austria)


Hungary SIG #Hungary ROSENBAUMs in Kisvarda #hungary

Dan Breslau <sinespam@...>
 

My ggf, Edward ROSENBAUM, was the son of Leo ROSENBAUM of Kisvarda and
Cecilia (Cilly) WEISSBURG of Erdo Benye. Peter Spiro has a link
(http://ca.geocities.com/spirope/JewsHistoryKisvarda.PDF) to a
fascinating English translation of a book named /The History of the Jews
of Kisvard/a, by Istvan Nezo, which mentions two Leo ROSENBAUMs -- at
least, I think there must be two, as one was active in the synagogue in
1828, and another in 1933. The second one is more likely to have been my
gggf; the first was, perhaps, his gf.

I've also read the Yizkor book on Kisvarda (at
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/kisvarda/kis001.html#chap5 ). This book
mentions that the Rabbis of the town for many years were ROSENBAUMs. I
also recently found the story of Pinchas Tibor ROSENBAUM, one of the
seven subjects of the documentary film "Unlikely Heroes". (You can read
about Pinchas here: http://www.shalom-magazine.com/Article.php?id=420311 )

Naturally I'm curious to know if there's a family connection. Does
anyone have any more specific knowledge of the history of any or all of
these ROSENBAUMs?

And Peter Spiro, if you're reading this, thank you!

--
Searching:
BRESLAU/BRESLOVSKI, COHEN (Belarus/Poland);
Cohen, Kanarek(?), Michaelski(?) (Poland);
SCHREIBER, GRAD, ROSENBAUM, DEUTSCH, GLUCK, NEUVOHNER,
WEISSBURG, KESTENBAUM, ROSENBERG, ADLER, FRISCH (Hungary);
LANDAU, GRUNFELD, GOTTLIEB, BECKER (Austria)