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Re: APOLOGY #southafrica

Photographer Anne BREST & Assoc. <digitalphoto@...>
 

Hallo there, all South African SIGGERS

AN APOLOGY. the Message which appeared on JewishGEN about PADOWITZ in reply
to Ann RABINOWITZ's question, was supposed to have been sent to South
African SIG and not to JewishGEN. But never mind, the more (people who
read the message) the merrier!! Ann RABINOWITZ was expecting a hurricane
and expecting to be offline. She is a friend of mine. Thank you, Beryl
BALESON for putting my message on South African SIG.

Anne Lapedus BREST (ex Dublin, Ireland) Sandton, South Africa
RESEARCHING - LAPEDUS and KAHN (Vieksniai, Lithuania). MARCUS and FELDMAN
(Ackmene, Lithuania), KLOPMAN/KLAPMAN,(Silmalas, Latvia). SHILLMAN and
BENSON (Krustpils, Latvia), MIRRELSON (Kurshan, Courland, Latvia) , BREST
(Bauska, Latvia) , ORKIN (Zagere, Lithuania) CHAVIN and CHEIN (Zagare,
Lithuania)


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: APOLOGY #southafrica

Photographer Anne BREST & Assoc. <digitalphoto@...>
 

Hallo there, all South African SIGGERS

AN APOLOGY. the Message which appeared on JewishGEN about PADOWITZ in reply
to Ann RABINOWITZ's question, was supposed to have been sent to South
African SIG and not to JewishGEN. But never mind, the more (people who
read the message) the merrier!! Ann RABINOWITZ was expecting a hurricane
and expecting to be offline. She is a friend of mine. Thank you, Beryl
BALESON for putting my message on South African SIG.

Anne Lapedus BREST (ex Dublin, Ireland) Sandton, South Africa
RESEARCHING - LAPEDUS and KAHN (Vieksniai, Lithuania). MARCUS and FELDMAN
(Ackmene, Lithuania), KLOPMAN/KLAPMAN,(Silmalas, Latvia). SHILLMAN and
BENSON (Krustpils, Latvia), MIRRELSON (Kurshan, Courland, Latvia) , BREST
(Bauska, Latvia) , ORKIN (Zagere, Lithuania) CHAVIN and CHEIN (Zagare,
Lithuania)


I'm looking for scans old Izbica Kujawska's photos from 1918-1942. #general

novitzki@...
 

Hi!

I'm >from Poland, and I'm interesting Izbica Kujawska (no Izbica near
Lublin) in 1918-1942. I made site www.izbica-kujawska.com (Galeria) I
am looking for scans old Izbica Kujawska's photos (I want to publish it
on this site, of course with name person, who will be send scans) Many
people send me photos, but I have few Izbica kujawska's photos from
1918-1942. I hope, then some people, who have lived (or they families)
in Izbica Kujawska in 1918-1942 can help me. Please send photo scans on
my e-mail.

P.S Sorry for my english
PS 2: I can answer in English, German and Polish of course.

With greetings!

Blazej Nowicki
www.izbica-kujawska.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen I'm looking for scans old Izbica Kujawska's photos from 1918-1942. #general

novitzki@...
 

Hi!

I'm >from Poland, and I'm interesting Izbica Kujawska (no Izbica near
Lublin) in 1918-1942. I made site www.izbica-kujawska.com (Galeria) I
am looking for scans old Izbica Kujawska's photos (I want to publish it
on this site, of course with name person, who will be send scans) Many
people send me photos, but I have few Izbica kujawska's photos from
1918-1942. I hope, then some people, who have lived (or they families)
in Izbica Kujawska in 1918-1942 can help me. Please send photo scans on
my e-mail.

P.S Sorry for my english
PS 2: I can answer in English, German and Polish of course.

With greetings!

Blazej Nowicki
www.izbica-kujawska.com


Re: ukraine digest: August 29, 2006 #ukraine

Marshall Lerner <marshalllerner@...>
 

Steve,
On behalf of our fellow genealogy enthusiasts, thank you.

Marshall Lerner

Subject: Mt. Ararat Cemetery Searchable Datbase is now online
Steven Lasky <steve725@optonline.net> WROTE IN PART:

As promised, I am notifying everyone that the fourth in a series of five new

searchable cemetery databases is now online. The cemetery is Mt. Ararat
Cemetery. It is located in Lindenhurst, Suffolk County, New York, though its
mailing address is in Farmingdale. The cemetery (founded in 1929, first
burial 1933) contains more than 45,000 burials but no society plots. This
means that using the www.jgsny.org database in order to locate a particular
landsmanshaft plot will not be useful for this cemetery........


More about the Mt. Ararat Cemetery searchable database #ukraine

Steven Lasky <steve725@...>
 

Greetings,

This is just a follow-up on my previous posting about the new searchable
database available on the new Mt. Ararat Cemetery
website(www.mountararatcemetery.com.) I just returned >from a short visit to
the cemetery in search of some answers, and I wanted to share them with you,
anticipating that questions regarding these matters will probably come up at
some point. Here we go:

1. Some of you will undoubtedly discover that there are dates of death
listed on this database >from as early as 1910. The office manager at Mt.
Ararat checked a few of these burial records for me, and he found that they
were, for the most part, reinterments >from other cemeteries. There is no
mention of this when you look at any of these burial listings, but now you
know. Also, even though the web site states that the first interment at the
Mt. Ararat was 1933, it was really 1931.

2. If you do a search just using the year of death of 1909, you will find
481 entries with the same date of death, 1/1/1910. You will also get the
same list of names if you do a search just using the year 1910. This
1/1/1910 date is the default setting and is not meant to indicate that the
person's date of death was 1/1/1910. Either the cemetery had no date of
death for these individuals in their computer before the data was uploaded
to the new website, and it defaulted to this same date, or there was some
other reason for it. Either way, if you happen to find a name of interest in
this database with a date of death of 1/1/1910, contact the cemetery for the
correct date. Again, you will find dates of death for a small number of
entries before 1931, but as I've said, these are most likely all
disinterments/reinterments.

3. Regarding planting, care, etc., there are no plants or vegetation (just
grass) on any of the graves in this cemetery, just shrubs, etc. in between
family headstones, on one or both sides of the stone. Also, there are no
individual matzevot (gravestones), i.e. the cemetery permits only family
headstones, one per family. So typically you will have one headstone with
the family surname(s) inscribed on it and, in the minority of cases, symbols
that indicate whether the deceased were Cohains, Levites or Israelites. You
will generally find footstones made of granite for each individual burial.
Because of the small size of these footstones, the information on them is
limited. You will find the deceased's first name, surname, dates of birth
(when available) and death, perhaps in only fifty-percent of the burials the
Hebrew name of the deceased and their father, and a few words, e.g. beloved
wife-devoted mother and grandmother. No other significant inscriptions per
se. Lastly, there are sections in this cemetery that don't even allow for a
family headstone, and you there you will find individual footstones only.

4. The cemetery says that they are not really "set up" for taking gravestone
photos. They will consider taking photos on an individual basis (no charge),
especially for those who already own plots.

5. So remember that you will find errors in this database, just like all the
others. Please give them plenty of time to work out the kinks.

I hope these notes will help those of you who have an interest in those who
are buried at Mt. Ararat Cemetery.


Best,
Steve Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE: ukraine digest: August 29, 2006 #ukraine

Marshall Lerner <marshalllerner@...>
 

Steve,
On behalf of our fellow genealogy enthusiasts, thank you.

Marshall Lerner

Subject: Mt. Ararat Cemetery Searchable Datbase is now online
Steven Lasky <steve725@optonline.net> WROTE IN PART:

As promised, I am notifying everyone that the fourth in a series of five new

searchable cemetery databases is now online. The cemetery is Mt. Ararat
Cemetery. It is located in Lindenhurst, Suffolk County, New York, though its
mailing address is in Farmingdale. The cemetery (founded in 1929, first
burial 1933) contains more than 45,000 burials but no society plots. This
means that using the www.jgsny.org database in order to locate a particular
landsmanshaft plot will not be useful for this cemetery........


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine More about the Mt. Ararat Cemetery searchable database #ukraine

Steven Lasky <steve725@...>
 

Greetings,

This is just a follow-up on my previous posting about the new searchable
database available on the new Mt. Ararat Cemetery
website(www.mountararatcemetery.com.) I just returned >from a short visit to
the cemetery in search of some answers, and I wanted to share them with you,
anticipating that questions regarding these matters will probably come up at
some point. Here we go:

1. Some of you will undoubtedly discover that there are dates of death
listed on this database >from as early as 1910. The office manager at Mt.
Ararat checked a few of these burial records for me, and he found that they
were, for the most part, reinterments >from other cemeteries. There is no
mention of this when you look at any of these burial listings, but now you
know. Also, even though the web site states that the first interment at the
Mt. Ararat was 1933, it was really 1931.

2. If you do a search just using the year of death of 1909, you will find
481 entries with the same date of death, 1/1/1910. You will also get the
same list of names if you do a search just using the year 1910. This
1/1/1910 date is the default setting and is not meant to indicate that the
person's date of death was 1/1/1910. Either the cemetery had no date of
death for these individuals in their computer before the data was uploaded
to the new website, and it defaulted to this same date, or there was some
other reason for it. Either way, if you happen to find a name of interest in
this database with a date of death of 1/1/1910, contact the cemetery for the
correct date. Again, you will find dates of death for a small number of
entries before 1931, but as I've said, these are most likely all
disinterments/reinterments.

3. Regarding planting, care, etc., there are no plants or vegetation (just
grass) on any of the graves in this cemetery, just shrubs, etc. in between
family headstones, on one or both sides of the stone. Also, there are no
individual matzevot (gravestones), i.e. the cemetery permits only family
headstones, one per family. So typically you will have one headstone with
the family surname(s) inscribed on it and, in the minority of cases, symbols
that indicate whether the deceased were Cohains, Levites or Israelites. You
will generally find footstones made of granite for each individual burial.
Because of the small size of these footstones, the information on them is
limited. You will find the deceased's first name, surname, dates of birth
(when available) and death, perhaps in only fifty-percent of the burials the
Hebrew name of the deceased and their father, and a few words, e.g. beloved
wife-devoted mother and grandmother. No other significant inscriptions per
se. Lastly, there are sections in this cemetery that don't even allow for a
family headstone, and you there you will find individual footstones only.

4. The cemetery says that they are not really "set up" for taking gravestone
photos. They will consider taking photos on an individual basis (no charge),
especially for those who already own plots.

5. So remember that you will find errors in this database, just like all the
others. Please give them plenty of time to work out the kinks.

I hope these notes will help those of you who have an interest in those who
are buried at Mt. Ararat Cemetery.


Best,
Steve Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com


Re: same name for grandmother and daughter #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

At 12:13 PM +0200 8/30/06, Paul & Irene Berman wrote:
It is a custom in the Sephardic community to name a child after a
living grandparent. People who have done it have said that it helped
create a special bond between the two.
To name a child after a living grandparent was also quite customary in the 19th
century Anglo-Dutch Ashkenazic community. There are numerous examples in my
own family.

As has been pointed out many times, the superstition about naming a child after
a living grandparent is virtually confined to East European Jews and their
descendants. It was far less prevalent among West European Jews, who began to
acquire secular education about 200 years ago following the emancipation
brought about by the Enlightenment. East European Jews by contrast lacked that
opportunity -- and it goes without saying that the lower the level of education,
the greater the prevalence of superstition ( not only among Jews but in the
general culture).

Even in the West, Jews still normally refrain >from naming a child after the
child's own living parent -- which of course is a common practice among
gentiles -- especially in the upper classes and aristocracy. But even this
sometimes happens among assimilated, secular Jews who are more interested in
adopting the dominant surrounding culture than in maintaining their Jewish
identity.

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: same name for grandmother and daughter #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

At 12:13 PM +0200 8/30/06, Paul & Irene Berman wrote:
It is a custom in the Sephardic community to name a child after a
living grandparent. People who have done it have said that it helped
create a special bond between the two.
To name a child after a living grandparent was also quite customary in the 19th
century Anglo-Dutch Ashkenazic community. There are numerous examples in my
own family.

As has been pointed out many times, the superstition about naming a child after
a living grandparent is virtually confined to East European Jews and their
descendants. It was far less prevalent among West European Jews, who began to
acquire secular education about 200 years ago following the emancipation
brought about by the Enlightenment. East European Jews by contrast lacked that
opportunity -- and it goes without saying that the lower the level of education,
the greater the prevalence of superstition ( not only among Jews but in the
general culture).

Even in the West, Jews still normally refrain >from naming a child after the
child's own living parent -- which of course is a common practice among
gentiles -- especially in the upper classes and aristocracy. But even this
sometimes happens among assimilated, secular Jews who are more interested in
adopting the dominant surrounding culture than in maintaining their Jewish
identity.

Judith Romney Wegner


Re: FATHER AND HUSBAND WITH SAME NAME #ukraine

Sandy Bass-Cors <sandy@...>
 

My emails have been down so I apologize for the late response. But it's
the Sephardim who name after the living. The Ashkenazim named after the
dead.

bob rubin wrote:

Hello,

Perhaps you are referring to the Sephardic Jewish Community
traditions. Many fathers did not allow their daughters to marry a
husband with the same name as themselves. A new child was never given
the same name as the father. Therefore, the child would not be able to
be named after their grandfather. However, there were a few
exceptions, such as if the husband had died prior to the son being born.

Bob RUBIN MAYO
bob_rubin@hotmail.com


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: FATHER AND HUSBAND WITH SAME NAME #ukraine

Sandy Bass-Cors <sandy@...>
 

My emails have been down so I apologize for the late response. But it's
the Sephardim who name after the living. The Ashkenazim named after the
dead.

bob rubin wrote:

Hello,

Perhaps you are referring to the Sephardic Jewish Community
traditions. Many fathers did not allow their daughters to marry a
husband with the same name as themselves. A new child was never given
the same name as the father. Therefore, the child would not be able to
be named after their grandfather. However, there were a few
exceptions, such as if the husband had died prior to the son being born.

Bob RUBIN MAYO
bob_rubin@hotmail.com


Haasgasse #austria-czech

Traude Triebel
 

Dear Mr.Marbach

If you open the link
http://www.lettertothestars.at/browser_normal/abfrage/results1.php
and enter only Haasgasse you will see, this was a "Sammelwohnung",
also f.e. Schiffgasse

Friendly regards
Traude Triebel
Wr. Neustadt
Email: traude.triebel@inode.at
Web: http://www.genealogie-gruenwald.reumann.biz/gg/


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Haasgasse #austria-czech

Traude Triebel
 

Dear Mr.Marbach

If you open the link
http://www.lettertothestars.at/browser_normal/abfrage/results1.php
and enter only Haasgasse you will see, this was a "Sammelwohnung",
also f.e. Schiffgasse

Friendly regards
Traude Triebel
Wr. Neustadt
Email: traude.triebel@inode.at
Web: http://www.genealogie-gruenwald.reumann.biz/gg/


Austria-Czech Social Gathering in Vienna - Oct. 2006 #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

I am organising an Austria-Czech social gathering in Vienna to
coincide with the visit of US Siggers Joe & Eleanor Feitler and Sally
& Don Goodman.

A tentative date is for Dinner - Saturday, 21st October - with a
possible get-together [perhaps a Zentralfriedhof visit?] on the
Sunday or the Friday prior to the dinner meeting. This all depends on
the response. We are already 12!

I have circulated many in the vicinity of Vienna [inc. Hungary,
Slovakia, Czech Rep., Germany and Switzerland] but if you happen to
be visiting at the time, it would be great to see you.

Please reply to me privately.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Thanks to Sharla #austria-czech

ANNE LEE <federlee@...>
 

I wish to express my thanks to Sharla Levine for all she has done for the
Austria-Czech Sig. She was the one who stepped forward at the very
beginning, when the idea for the Sig first surfaced, to make sure that it
become a reality.

Thanks Sharla -- enjoy your well deserved retirement.

Anne
Anne Feder Lee
Honolulu, HI
FederLee@msn.com


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Austria-Czech Social Gathering in Vienna - Oct. 2006 #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

I am organising an Austria-Czech social gathering in Vienna to
coincide with the visit of US Siggers Joe & Eleanor Feitler and Sally
& Don Goodman.

A tentative date is for Dinner - Saturday, 21st October - with a
possible get-together [perhaps a Zentralfriedhof visit?] on the
Sunday or the Friday prior to the dinner meeting. This all depends on
the response. We are already 12!

I have circulated many in the vicinity of Vienna [inc. Hungary,
Slovakia, Czech Rep., Germany and Switzerland] but if you happen to
be visiting at the time, it would be great to see you.

Please reply to me privately.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Thanks to Sharla #austria-czech

ANNE LEE <federlee@...>
 

I wish to express my thanks to Sharla Levine for all she has done for the
Austria-Czech Sig. She was the one who stepped forward at the very
beginning, when the idea for the Sig first surfaced, to make sure that it
become a reality.

Thanks Sharla -- enjoy your well deserved retirement.

Anne
Anne Feder Lee
Honolulu, HI
FederLee@msn.com


DOEW, Austria - website redesign. #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

The Documentation Center of Austrian Resistance has redesigned its
website. This site has a lot of vital and also very distressing data
on it. If you have looked at it before and found it hard to navigate,
you may find it easier to find your way around now.

http://en.doew.braintrust.at/ [English]

http://www.doew.at/ausstellung/ [German]

Celia Male [U.K.]


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech DOEW, Austria - website redesign. #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

The Documentation Center of Austrian Resistance has redesigned its
website. This site has a lot of vital and also very distressing data
on it. If you have looked at it before and found it hard to navigate,
you may find it easier to find your way around now.

http://en.doew.braintrust.at/ [English]

http://www.doew.at/ausstellung/ [German]

Celia Male [U.K.]