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Re: What is Kipret Marsh #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

Only inhabited places are listed in "Where Once We Walked" and marshes are
not usually considered to be inhabited places, although named towns and such
may be built in a marsh..

I wonder if this might be a distortion of "Pripet Marshes" (see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pripet_Marshes)

--- PLZ

"Marilyn Feingold" <mrl516@bellsouth.net> wrote:

I just spoke with the widow of a possible relative. She said her father
in law was born in Kipret which is on the Russian/Polish border. Her
husband also mentioned lots of marshes there. Does this register with
anyone? I've looked in '"Where once we Walked " and couldn't find it.
Thanks. Marilyn Feingold.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: What is Kipret Marsh #general

Peter Zavon <pzavon@...>
 

Only inhabited places are listed in "Where Once We Walked" and marshes are
not usually considered to be inhabited places, although named towns and such
may be built in a marsh..

I wonder if this might be a distortion of "Pripet Marshes" (see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pripet_Marshes)

--- PLZ

"Marilyn Feingold" <mrl516@bellsouth.net> wrote:

I just spoke with the widow of a possible relative. She said her father
in law was born in Kipret which is on the Russian/Polish border. Her
husband also mentioned lots of marshes there. Does this register with
anyone? I've looked in '"Where once we Walked " and couldn't find it.
Thanks. Marilyn Feingold.


Lena MUSHIN FAGELMAN #general

Annette Stolberg <annettes@...>
 

Hello All -

I'm hoping there are MUSHINs >from Dokhshitz out there who might have
known of my grandmother Leah, Bat Avraham (Tzvi). Leah or Lena in
the states (of New York City, and later Boston Mass) married Hyman
(Chaim) FAGELMAN. The spelling is up for grabs. I found her listed
in a Census of 1910 as Lena Fogelman married to Hyman Fogelman. I
will look forward to responses.

Annette


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lena MUSHIN FAGELMAN #general

Annette Stolberg <annettes@...>
 

Hello All -

I'm hoping there are MUSHINs >from Dokhshitz out there who might have
known of my grandmother Leah, Bat Avraham (Tzvi). Leah or Lena in
the states (of New York City, and later Boston Mass) married Hyman
(Chaim) FAGELMAN. The spelling is up for grabs. I found her listed
in a Census of 1910 as Lena Fogelman married to Hyman Fogelman. I
will look forward to responses.

Annette


32,000 pages about Jewish pogroms in Ukraine #general

Ben Weinstock
 

Dear group,

I recently came across the site of Eastview Publications. They have microfilmed
over 32,000 pages of documents >from the Kiev archive:

"Jewish Pogroms in Ukraine, 1918-1921. Documents of Kiev District Commission for
Relief to Victims of Pogroms."

There are more details and a finding aid:

http://www.eastview.com/xq/ASP/sku=RC742858/active_tab=2/qx/research-collections/product_view.asp

http://www.eastview.com/docs/FR-3050-vstuplenie%20Eng.pdf

There are other projects: Mendel Beilis papers, and also Jewish emigration >from
Ukraine (see the links on their site).

I have no commercial interest in this; moreover, I know nothing more than what
is on the website.

Sincerely,

Ben Weinstock,
NYC
bwpt2000 at yahoo dot com

MODERATOR NOTE: This is the permitted one-time mention of a
commercial website of genealogical interest. The long (first) URL
above can also be reached at <http://tinyurl.com/kxu4l>.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 32,000 pages about Jewish pogroms in Ukraine #general

Ben Weinstock
 

Dear group,

I recently came across the site of Eastview Publications. They have microfilmed
over 32,000 pages of documents >from the Kiev archive:

"Jewish Pogroms in Ukraine, 1918-1921. Documents of Kiev District Commission for
Relief to Victims of Pogroms."

There are more details and a finding aid:

http://www.eastview.com/xq/ASP/sku=RC742858/active_tab=2/qx/research-collections/product_view.asp

http://www.eastview.com/docs/FR-3050-vstuplenie%20Eng.pdf

There are other projects: Mendel Beilis papers, and also Jewish emigration >from
Ukraine (see the links on their site).

I have no commercial interest in this; moreover, I know nothing more than what
is on the website.

Sincerely,

Ben Weinstock,
NYC
bwpt2000 at yahoo dot com

MODERATOR NOTE: This is the permitted one-time mention of a
commercial website of genealogical interest. The long (first) URL
above can also be reached at <http://tinyurl.com/kxu4l>.


Re: Seeking descendants of Morris MARSHALL from CA #general

Zev Griner <zgriner@...>
 

If you go to www.stevemorse.org and use the page:
Birthdays and Addresses: Finding Birthdays and Addresses in One Step
(zabasearch.com), you will find a number of Mailshankers in PA.

Zev Griner

H Duboff wrote:

I just discovered that an ancestor of mine changed his last name. (His
brothers all kept the original name).

I'm looking for descendants of Morris MARSHALL, whose name was
originally Morris MAILSHANKER.

He lived in the Los Angeles area as of the 1950s and died (death
reported to LA County) in 1960. His wife was named Annie.

They had 2 sons, Leon and Irvin. I don't know if the sons changed
their surnames as well; the sons were born between approximately 1915
and 1920. All were originally >from Philadelphia.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Seeking descendants of Morris MARSHALL from CA #general

Zev Griner <zgriner@...>
 

If you go to www.stevemorse.org and use the page:
Birthdays and Addresses: Finding Birthdays and Addresses in One Step
(zabasearch.com), you will find a number of Mailshankers in PA.

Zev Griner

H Duboff wrote:

I just discovered that an ancestor of mine changed his last name. (His
brothers all kept the original name).

I'm looking for descendants of Morris MARSHALL, whose name was
originally Morris MAILSHANKER.

He lived in the Los Angeles area as of the 1950s and died (death
reported to LA County) in 1960. His wife was named Annie.

They had 2 sons, Leon and Irvin. I don't know if the sons changed
their surnames as well; the sons were born between approximately 1915
and 1920. All were originally >from Philadelphia.


BRISKMAN and MNUSHKIN #general

Yefim Briskman <efimbriskman@...>
 

Hello,

I'm Yefim Briskman, and I'm looking for BRISKMAN and MNUSHKIN(=Mnuskin) families
from all over the world.
Best,
Yefim Briskman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BRISKMAN and MNUSHKIN #general

Yefim Briskman <efimbriskman@...>
 

Hello,

I'm Yefim Briskman, and I'm looking for BRISKMAN and MNUSHKIN(=Mnuskin) families
from all over the world.
Best,
Yefim Briskman


Pinkas HaKehillot chapters #romania

Joyce Field
 

Mark Lewis inquired about
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/pinkas_romania/pinkas_romania1.html.

This is the table of contents for volume 1 of the Pinkas Hakehillot.
The translated chapters are highlighted in blue. The town he is
looking for, Ploiesti, is located at page 218 of volume 1 but has not
been translated. The table of contents for volume II is at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/pinkas_romania/pinkas_romania2.html.

If Mr. Lewis would like to financially sponsor a translation of the
Ploiesti chapter, he should contact me. He can make a donation at
p://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=23,
at the line "Pinkas HaKehillot," but he should write to me to find
out the cost of the translation before making a donation.

Researchers interested in sponsoring the translation of other
chapters should also contact me. If you can translate >from Hebrew to
English, we would be grateful to receive the translation so that
others can read the work in English Please contact me for advice on
whether someone else has offered to translate that chapter.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition


Romania SIG #Romania Pinkas HaKehillot chapters #romania

Joyce Field
 

Mark Lewis inquired about
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/pinkas_romania/pinkas_romania1.html.

This is the table of contents for volume 1 of the Pinkas Hakehillot.
The translated chapters are highlighted in blue. The town he is
looking for, Ploiesti, is located at page 218 of volume 1 but has not
been translated. The table of contents for volume II is at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/pinkas_romania/pinkas_romania2.html.

If Mr. Lewis would like to financially sponsor a translation of the
Ploiesti chapter, he should contact me. He can make a donation at
p://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=23,
at the line "Pinkas HaKehillot," but he should write to me to find
out the cost of the translation before making a donation.

Researchers interested in sponsoring the translation of other
chapters should also contact me. If you can translate >from Hebrew to
English, we would be grateful to receive the translation so that
others can read the work in English Please contact me for advice on
whether someone else has offered to translate that chapter.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition


GerSIG membership milestone 1,300 #germany

jplowens@...
 

The number of GerSIG subscriber / members was 1,292 when we met at the
NY 2006 Conference on August 14th.

Today ( 26 August, 2006 ) we have 1,310 subscribers.

Our group was formed at the LA 1998 Conference with
an original "sign-up" list of about 65.
Roughly 65 additional charter members were added in October 1998.

Welcome new GerSIG members!

Please send us your "INTRO" email soon.
Details are in the new member welcome letter that was
sent to you immediately after you entered your GerSIG subscription.

John Paul Lowens, Suburban NYC GerSIG Coordinator


German SIG #Germany GerSIG membership milestone 1,300 #germany

jplowens@...
 

The number of GerSIG subscriber / members was 1,292 when we met at the
NY 2006 Conference on August 14th.

Today ( 26 August, 2006 ) we have 1,310 subscribers.

Our group was formed at the LA 1998 Conference with
an original "sign-up" list of about 65.
Roughly 65 additional charter members were added in October 1998.

Welcome new GerSIG members!

Please send us your "INTRO" email soon.
Details are in the new member welcome letter that was
sent to you immediately after you entered your GerSIG subscription.

John Paul Lowens, Suburban NYC GerSIG Coordinator


Help on Hebrew patronymic names: HELLMAN family #general

Bruce Reisch <bir1@...>
 

Dear Genners:

Among my HELLMAN/HILLMAN relatives, I have a puzzle I hope you can
help me to solve.

My great grandfather's sister, Celia HILLMAN is buried at Mt. Hebron
Cemetery in Queens, NY, and in Hebrew she is Tsippia daughter of
Ephraim (died 15 Feb 1921, age 62). That's the easy part (and if
she's also a part of your family, please write back!)

Now here's the puzzle:
Buried nearby in the Rabbi Israel HAGER plots is her (likely)
husband, Louis HILLMAN and his Hebrew name is given as Yehuda Leib
son of Yosef (died 16 Aug 1924, age 70). The two-hand symbol on the
stone indicates he is a Kohen.

Also buried in the HAGER plots is Israel HELLMAN (born 25 Dec 1985,
died 15 Jan 1963). His Hebrew name is given as Yisroel son of Leib
Yosef HaKohen.

Questions: Is it possible that Israel is the son of Yehuda Leib who
is the son of Yosef? If so, why does his Hebrew name indicate that
he's the son of Leib Yosef? Is it common to find a patronymic name
that mentions both the father and grandfather's name?

Your thoughts will be greatly appreciated.

Bruce Reisch
Geneva, New York
--
RADAUTZ: http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/radauti/radautz.html
SADGURA: http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/sadgura/sadgura.html
Researching: REISCH, SCHECHTER, FEUERSTEIN - Sadgura, Bukowina, Ukraine
SCHACHTER, BRUCKER/BRUKER, HALPERN, HELLMANN - Radauti Bukowina, Romania
WEISSMAN - Brody, Galicia, Ukraine SCHACHTER, HELLMANN - Okup, Ukraine
WEINTRAUB - Lublin & Zamosc, Poland


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Help on Hebrew patronymic names: HELLMAN family #general

Bruce Reisch <bir1@...>
 

Dear Genners:

Among my HELLMAN/HILLMAN relatives, I have a puzzle I hope you can
help me to solve.

My great grandfather's sister, Celia HILLMAN is buried at Mt. Hebron
Cemetery in Queens, NY, and in Hebrew she is Tsippia daughter of
Ephraim (died 15 Feb 1921, age 62). That's the easy part (and if
she's also a part of your family, please write back!)

Now here's the puzzle:
Buried nearby in the Rabbi Israel HAGER plots is her (likely)
husband, Louis HILLMAN and his Hebrew name is given as Yehuda Leib
son of Yosef (died 16 Aug 1924, age 70). The two-hand symbol on the
stone indicates he is a Kohen.

Also buried in the HAGER plots is Israel HELLMAN (born 25 Dec 1985,
died 15 Jan 1963). His Hebrew name is given as Yisroel son of Leib
Yosef HaKohen.

Questions: Is it possible that Israel is the son of Yehuda Leib who
is the son of Yosef? If so, why does his Hebrew name indicate that
he's the son of Leib Yosef? Is it common to find a patronymic name
that mentions both the father and grandfather's name?

Your thoughts will be greatly appreciated.

Bruce Reisch
Geneva, New York
--
RADAUTZ: http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/radauti/radautz.html
SADGURA: http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/sadgura/sadgura.html
Researching: REISCH, SCHECHTER, FEUERSTEIN - Sadgura, Bukowina, Ukraine
SCHACHTER, BRUCKER/BRUKER, HALPERN, HELLMANN - Radauti Bukowina, Romania
WEISSMAN - Brody, Galicia, Ukraine SCHACHTER, HELLMANN - Okup, Ukraine
WEINTRAUB - Lublin & Zamosc, Poland


Searching BLUESTEIN, PATLA, WARSHAVSKY #general

Ann M. Hellman <hellmana@...>
 

My gggradparents, Jacob and Dvosy PIATIGORSKY (later JACOBS) came to the US
from Kiev on Nov 25, 1881 on the Silesia. They arrived with their 5
daughters, their husbands and children. >from there they were put on a steam
packet to Savannah, GA, then on a train to Macon, GA arriving Dec. 1, 1881.

On the manifest for the Silesia, I have found my gggrandparents, my
ggrandparents, and ggreat-uncle and aunt with her family. My
gggrandparents, Jacob and Dvosy PIATIGORAKY, were listed on the manifest as
Jacob and Dworsei PITAGERSKI. My ggrandparents, Henry and Hannah LEVKOFF
were listed on the manifest as Charin and Chanel LEWKOW. My ggreat-uncle and
aunt, Israel and Darby BIRLANT were listed on the manifest as Israel and
Taube BELOURTOWSKY.

I have read and reread the manifest in search of the other 3 daughters and
their families. The missing are:
Meyer and Betty BLUESTEIN with 5 children;
Mordecai Judah and Simmie PATLA with 1 child;
and Esther and Benjamin WARSHAVSKY with 1 child.

Any suggestions for other possible names for BLUESTEIN, PATLA, and
WARSHAVSKY will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance,
Ann Meddin Hellman

Researching: MEDINSKI/ MEDIN/ MEDDIN/ TENNENBAUM Kolonia Yakowlew, Gub.
Grodno, Belarus; JARINKES/ YARINKES, Drohiczyan, Belarus;
FEINTUCH Warshava, Poland; RUBIN/ FRANK Radoshkovichi, Belarus
JACOBS-PIATIGORSKY/ LEVKOFF-LEWKOW/ BIRLANT-BELOURTOWSKY/ BLUESTEIN/ PATLA/
WARSHAVSKY Kiev, Ukraine HELLMAN, Riga, Latvia; ZIMANSKY Filipov, Poland;
TEWEL Austria

--
Ann M. Hellman
Charleston, SC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching BLUESTEIN, PATLA, WARSHAVSKY #general

Ann M. Hellman <hellmana@...>
 

My gggradparents, Jacob and Dvosy PIATIGORSKY (later JACOBS) came to the US
from Kiev on Nov 25, 1881 on the Silesia. They arrived with their 5
daughters, their husbands and children. >from there they were put on a steam
packet to Savannah, GA, then on a train to Macon, GA arriving Dec. 1, 1881.

On the manifest for the Silesia, I have found my gggrandparents, my
ggrandparents, and ggreat-uncle and aunt with her family. My
gggrandparents, Jacob and Dvosy PIATIGORAKY, were listed on the manifest as
Jacob and Dworsei PITAGERSKI. My ggrandparents, Henry and Hannah LEVKOFF
were listed on the manifest as Charin and Chanel LEWKOW. My ggreat-uncle and
aunt, Israel and Darby BIRLANT were listed on the manifest as Israel and
Taube BELOURTOWSKY.

I have read and reread the manifest in search of the other 3 daughters and
their families. The missing are:
Meyer and Betty BLUESTEIN with 5 children;
Mordecai Judah and Simmie PATLA with 1 child;
and Esther and Benjamin WARSHAVSKY with 1 child.

Any suggestions for other possible names for BLUESTEIN, PATLA, and
WARSHAVSKY will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance,
Ann Meddin Hellman

Researching: MEDINSKI/ MEDIN/ MEDDIN/ TENNENBAUM Kolonia Yakowlew, Gub.
Grodno, Belarus; JARINKES/ YARINKES, Drohiczyan, Belarus;
FEINTUCH Warshava, Poland; RUBIN/ FRANK Radoshkovichi, Belarus
JACOBS-PIATIGORSKY/ LEVKOFF-LEWKOW/ BIRLANT-BELOURTOWSKY/ BLUESTEIN/ PATLA/
WARSHAVSKY Kiev, Ukraine HELLMAN, Riga, Latvia; ZIMANSKY Filipov, Poland;
TEWEL Austria

--
Ann M. Hellman
Charleston, SC


Cape Town and Johannesburg cemetery help needed -- soon! #general

Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
 

I am creating a family tree for a bride and groom who will be married on
Sunday, Sept. 3.

Thanks to a breakthrough yesterday, I now know the burial places in South
Africa of two of the groom's paternal great-grandparents:

* Rabbi Chaim Isaac SANDLER, who was born c. 1874 in Lithuania (probably in
or near Vabalninkas or Panevezys), died 16 August 1965 in South Africa.
According to a family source, he is buried in West Park Cemetery,
Johannesburg.

* Masha SANDLER (nee DONSKY), born in Lithuania, died in South Africa well
before her husband -- probably in the 1930s or 1940s. According to a
relative, she is buried in Maitland Cemetery in Cape Town.

I would be grateful if a kind JewishGenner in Cape Town might be able to
check the grave there for Masha's father's name, dates, and any other
genealogical information it and/or cemetery records might provide.

I've been told that the cemetery in Johannesburg is not in a safe area,
so I am not requesting a visit there but any information about Rabbi Sandler
or his family would be most helpful.

I'd be thrilled to get this information before next Sunday (Sept. 3), so
that I can include it on the family tree I'll give the hattan and kallah at
their wedding but I realize time is short. Your help after Sept. 3 would
also be much appreciated! Please contact me privately fore going to any
trouble, to make sure the help is still needed.

I'm also eager to learn Rabbi and Mrs. Sandler's mothers' names. In the
U.S., a good place to turn for a mother's name is a civil marriage or death
record. Is that the case in South Africa as well or are there other records
(Chevra Kaddisha?) that I should be looking for?

Less urgent, but also very helpful, would be any information Genners can
provide about the groom's other paternal great-grandparents:

Ben Zion BORTZ
Born c 1893, possibly near Riga, Latvia
Died c 1980, probably in South Africa

Chana Leah PADOWITZ
Born c 1893, possibly near Riga, Latvia
Died c 1982, probably in South Africa

Perhaps someone out there recognizes these families.

Thank you for any help you can give a clueless Galitzianer-American with
this Litvak-South African research. Please reply privately.

Renee

Renee Steinig
Dix Hills (Long Island), New York, USA
genmaven@gmail.com

MODERATOR NOTE: You may also want to post this message in JewishGen's Southern
Africa SIG, where many members are in South Africa or maintain close ties there.
See http://www.jewishgen.org/SAfrica/ for further information.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cape Town and Johannesburg cemetery help needed -- soon! #general

Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
 

I am creating a family tree for a bride and groom who will be married on
Sunday, Sept. 3.

Thanks to a breakthrough yesterday, I now know the burial places in South
Africa of two of the groom's paternal great-grandparents:

* Rabbi Chaim Isaac SANDLER, who was born c. 1874 in Lithuania (probably in
or near Vabalninkas or Panevezys), died 16 August 1965 in South Africa.
According to a family source, he is buried in West Park Cemetery,
Johannesburg.

* Masha SANDLER (nee DONSKY), born in Lithuania, died in South Africa well
before her husband -- probably in the 1930s or 1940s. According to a
relative, she is buried in Maitland Cemetery in Cape Town.

I would be grateful if a kind JewishGenner in Cape Town might be able to
check the grave there for Masha's father's name, dates, and any other
genealogical information it and/or cemetery records might provide.

I've been told that the cemetery in Johannesburg is not in a safe area,
so I am not requesting a visit there but any information about Rabbi Sandler
or his family would be most helpful.

I'd be thrilled to get this information before next Sunday (Sept. 3), so
that I can include it on the family tree I'll give the hattan and kallah at
their wedding but I realize time is short. Your help after Sept. 3 would
also be much appreciated! Please contact me privately fore going to any
trouble, to make sure the help is still needed.

I'm also eager to learn Rabbi and Mrs. Sandler's mothers' names. In the
U.S., a good place to turn for a mother's name is a civil marriage or death
record. Is that the case in South Africa as well or are there other records
(Chevra Kaddisha?) that I should be looking for?

Less urgent, but also very helpful, would be any information Genners can
provide about the groom's other paternal great-grandparents:

Ben Zion BORTZ
Born c 1893, possibly near Riga, Latvia
Died c 1980, probably in South Africa

Chana Leah PADOWITZ
Born c 1893, possibly near Riga, Latvia
Died c 1982, probably in South Africa

Perhaps someone out there recognizes these families.

Thank you for any help you can give a clueless Galitzianer-American with
this Litvak-South African research. Please reply privately.

Renee

Renee Steinig
Dix Hills (Long Island), New York, USA
genmaven@gmail.com

MODERATOR NOTE: You may also want to post this message in JewishGen's Southern
Africa SIG, where many members are in South Africa or maintain close ties there.
See http://www.jewishgen.org/SAfrica/ for further information.