Donn Devine wrote: <"My one concern, however, is your suggestion to broaden the
coverage to as late as 1910.">

I did not mean to extend that date. I was referring to any photographs or other
material on the web site, which I was suggesting should not extend beyond 1910.

Victoria Bennett wrote: <"This proposal sounds as if succesful it could advance
our understanding not only of Jewish history and identity in America but expose
the social conditions...">

I have 19th century-American photographs and other materials that I know would
make an academic drool and I suspect many other of you do too. One of my aims
in making this suggestion was to get that material out there, so that academics
may know what we have.

John Paul Lowens is quite right that "All the endorsements of well-meaning
proposals are meaningless without volunteers."

As he was at the Early American SIG meeting at the NY conference, perhaps he will
remember that I already have volunteered to be Web Leader of the Richmond, VA
site -- PROVIDED there is a Web Master who has the technical know-how to actually
put my Internet-ready material on site. [I am Web Leader of the SKALA site at
<http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/SkalaPodol/>
I work with a Web Master who is the tech-maven. I collect the material, restore
the photos, write the text, etc. and the Web Master puts it on-site.]

If there is anyone out there who will work with me as Web Master on the Richmond,
VA site, I will contact Susanna Bloch (head of Shtetlinks) and get started on
Richmond, so that it may serve as a template for the other Early-American Jewish
communities.

I also said that I would work on the MANHATTAN site, but that undoubtedly will
be massive and requires more thought before any luckless soul volunteers to head
it.

I probably will get clobbered for this next suggestion: I always have felt that
the name SHTETLINKS is inappropriate, as the word SHTETL relates to European
towns. It does not fit Sefardim, Early Americans, and others whose ancestors
are not >from small European towns. Perhaps the site name should be changed to
ANCESTRAL TOWNS or WHERE THEY ONCE LIVED.

Helene Kenvin Florida <hekenvin@bellsouth.net>

MODERATOR NOTE: As per my message about the improved ( except for its unfortunate
name ) ShtetlSeeker, posted to the GerSIG Forum last week, I agree with Helene's
last point.

However, before picking a name it is necessary to find a volunteer webmaster
and project coordinator. JewishGen V.P. for Research Joyce Field has written
in support of this concept. Perhaps she might follow up with a list of steps
needed in order to start work on this proposal. JewishGen has guidelines
both procedural and technical which must be understood and followed.

John Paul Lowens, Suburban NYC, Acting EA SIG Forum Moderator

As Roger Lustig notes, the midwife book in question can only contain a small
fraction of the births in Breslau during 1846-1872. The preceding set of
birth records on microfilm are central records & contain mention of several
midwives, even during the same year, and Breslau's Jewish population was not
decreasing during this time. The majority of my mother's ancestors >from this
period were >from Breslau; it may be a coincidence only, but this midwife
served the more devout of my relatives' families, while the births of the
more Reform-minded/assimilated family members of the same period are not to
be found there.

Irene Newhouse Kihei HI <einew@hotmail.com>

Donn Devine wrote: <"My one concern, however, is your suggestion to broaden the
coverage to as late as 1910.">

I did not mean to extend that date. I was referring to any photographs or other
material on the web site, which I was suggesting should not extend beyond 1910.

Victoria Bennett wrote: <"This proposal sounds as if succesful it could advance
our understanding not only of Jewish history and identity in America but expose
the social conditions...">

I have 19th century-American photographs and other materials that I know would
make an academic drool and I suspect many other of you do too. One of my aims
in making this suggestion was to get that material out there, so that academics
may know what we have.

John Paul Lowens is quite right that "All the endorsements of well-meaning
proposals are meaningless without volunteers."

As he was at the Early American SIG meeting at the NY conference, perhaps he will
remember that I already have volunteered to be Web Leader of the Richmond, VA
site -- PROVIDED there is a Web Master who has the technical know-how to actually
put my Internet-ready material on site. [I am Web Leader of the SKALA site at
<http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/SkalaPodol/>
I work with a Web Master who is the tech-maven. I collect the material, restore
the photos, write the text, etc. and the Web Master puts it on-site.]

If there is anyone out there who will work with me as Web Master on the Richmond,
VA site, I will contact Susanna Bloch (head of Shtetlinks) and get started on
Richmond, so that it may serve as a template for the other Early-American Jewish
communities.

I also said that I would work on the MANHATTAN site, but that undoubtedly will
be massive and requires more thought before any luckless soul volunteers to head
it.

I probably will get clobbered for this next suggestion: I always have felt that
the name SHTETLINKS is inappropriate, as the word SHTETL relates to European
towns. It does not fit Sefardim, Early Americans, and others whose ancestors
are not >from small European towns. Perhaps the site name should be changed to
ANCESTRAL TOWNS or WHERE THEY ONCE LIVED.

Helene Kenvin Florida <hekenvin@bellsouth.net>

MODERATOR NOTE: As per my message about the improved ( except for its unfortunate
name ) ShtetlSeeker, posted to the GerSIG Forum last week, I agree with Helene's
last point.

However, before picking a name it is necessary to find a volunteer webmaster
and project coordinator. JewishGen V.P. for Research Joyce Field has written
in support of this concept. Perhaps she might follow up with a list of steps
needed in order to start work on this proposal. JewishGen has guidelines
both procedural and technical which must be understood and followed.

John Paul Lowens, Suburban NYC, Acting EA SIG Forum Moderator

As Roger Lustig notes, the midwife book in question can only contain a small
fraction of the births in Breslau during 1846-1872. The preceding set of
birth records on microfilm are central records & contain mention of several
midwives, even during the same year, and Breslau's Jewish population was not
decreasing during this time. The majority of my mother's ancestors >from this
period were >from Breslau; it may be a coincidence only, but this midwife
served the more devout of my relatives' families, while the births of the
more Reform-minded/assimilated family members of the same period are not to
be found there.

Irene Newhouse Kihei HI <einew@hotmail.com>

I have been reading with interest the discussion following Helene Kenvin's
excellent suggestions towards developing a web site.

My suggestion is that it cover the appropriate Early American period and
stop at 1870. Anything later is covered by other groups and is not
considered by historians as Early American.

The web site should be more on the level of a Litvak SIG site rather than a
smaller shtetlink site.

The coverage of the site can be possibly divided in the various historical
timeframes of this large chunk of America history such as:

1. Pre-Colonial

2. Colonial Period and Revolutionary War (13 original colonies)

3. War of 1812

4. Age of Expansion (westward exploration and settlement)

5. Civil War and Reconstruction (movement and resettlement, expansion)

In this way, individuals who are primarily interested in research in a
particular timeframe can focus on one of these areas.

You can also have general areas of research such as cemeteries, synagogues,
orphan asylums, landsmannschaftns, etc.

There are a number of excellent organizations which have loads of research
available for the Early American period and they should be approached about
working with the Early American SIG, i.e., American Jewish Historical
Society.

Also, there are already many references on JewishGen to Early American Jews,
i.e., early Czechoslovakian Jews,
http://www.jewishgen.org/BohMor/early_immig.html , one of whom, Joachim
GANS, came as early as 1585 to Roanoke, North Carolina.

It seems to be a matter of going through what is already available and
putting it into a suitable format on a web site. All the best,

Ann Rabinowitz annrab@bellsouth.net

I have been reading with interest the discussion following Helene Kenvin's
excellent suggestions towards developing a web site.

My suggestion is that it cover the appropriate Early American period and
stop at 1870. Anything later is covered by other groups and is not
considered by historians as Early American.

The web site should be more on the level of a Litvak SIG site rather than a
smaller shtetlink site.

The coverage of the site can be possibly divided in the various historical
timeframes of this large chunk of America history such as:

1. Pre-Colonial

2. Colonial Period and Revolutionary War (13 original colonies)

3. War of 1812

4. Age of Expansion (westward exploration and settlement)

5. Civil War and Reconstruction (movement and resettlement, expansion)

In this way, individuals who are primarily interested in research in a
particular timeframe can focus on one of these areas.

You can also have general areas of research such as cemeteries, synagogues,
orphan asylums, landsmannschaftns, etc.

There are a number of excellent organizations which have loads of research
available for the Early American period and they should be approached about
working with the Early American SIG, i.e., American Jewish Historical
Society.

Also, there are already many references on JewishGen to Early American Jews,
i.e., early Czechoslovakian Jews,
http://www.jewishgen.org/BohMor/early_immig.html , one of whom, Joachim
GANS, came as early as 1585 to Roanoke, North Carolina.

It seems to be a matter of going through what is already available and
putting it into a suitable format on a web site. All the best,

Ann Rabinowitz annrab@bellsouth.net

On 2006.08.08, Briena Klang <bribrukla@yahoo.com> wrote:

I am looking for
FRIEDMAN [...]
HALPERIN - Rabbi Abraham Leib (Full name- Abraham Zarach Aryeh
Yehudah Leibish) and Rabbi Joel HALPERIN, of Brzezany, formely known
as Brezahn.
MOSKOWITZ - Rabbi Yoel MOSKOWITZ, who was a rabbi in the town of
Shatz.
[...] Rabbi Chaim HALBERSTAM [...]

Rabbi Abraham Zorach Judah Ari Lieb HALPERIN, author of Imrey
Yehudah, Admor Brzezany, who married Sarah,the daughter of Rabbi
Yoel MOSKOWITZ of Shatz, was the son of Rabbi Meshullam Feibush
HALPERIN (1810-1874), Admor Brzezany, who was the son of Rabbi
Naftali Hertz HALPERIN, ABD Brezany (Borjan), son-in-law of R. Tuvia
Jehiel Michal of Brzezany (1775-1845). Rabbi Naftali Hertz HALPERIN
married the daughter of Rabbi Joseph Joska Gottesman HELLER of
Laskovitz ( and Ruchama Leah, daughter of Rabbi Meir of Premishlan.

Rabbi Joseph Joska Gottesman HELLER of Laskovitz (1770-1858) was the
son of R. Simeon HELLER of Mauzein (1782-1840). R. Simeon married
Shenidel Leah, the daughter of R. Joseph Joska HOROWITZ of
Waltshek(Voloczysk) and av bet din of Jassy, son of R. Aryeh Leib,
grandson of the SHELA (R, Isaiah HOROWITZ). R. Simeon HELLER's
father was R. Meshullam Feibush HELLER (1740-95), who married Yente,
the daughter of R. Mordechai of Brezany. R. Meshullam Feibush
HELLER was the son of R. Aaron Moses Halevi HELLER of Snyatin
(married Vencha, daughter of R. Israel Moses, ABD of Tishmetz), son
of R. Meir of Sitri, son of R. Abraham of Skol, son of R. Yom Tov
Lipman HELLER, author of Tosaphot Yom Tov, a famous commentary on
the Mishna.

Since Rabbi Yoel MOSKOWITZ married Miriam Chayele, another daughter
of Rabbi Meir of Premishlan, Rabbi Abraham Zorach Judah Ari Lieb
HALPERIN and his wife were cousins. Their son, R. Joel HALPERIN,
Admor Jaslo-New York, married (1) Rachel, daughter of Abraham, son
of Samuel HOROWITZ of Dembitz, who perished in Holocaust with three
children and (2) Rachel, daughter of Abraham son of R. Elijah
HOROWITZ (no issue). Rabbi Joel HALPERIN had at least three
surviving children Sarah, Chayim and Channiah, who married Dina
(Dintze), the daughter of R. Elimelech RUBIN.

My grandmother, Minna (Packer) TAUBER (a"h), who was also descended

from Rabbi Meir Premishlan, related how she spent her summers as a

child in Sucheva, Rumania, at the home of her relative, Chayale, the
wife of the Shatzer rebbe, and remembered Chayele carrying her
father's walking stick. She would play with Joel HALPERIN, who was
told that he could play with her even though she was a girl because
she was his cousin. My father (a"h") met Rabbi Joel HALPERIN who
confirmed the story.

Larry Tauber
New York

On 2006.08.08, Briena Klang <bribrukla@yahoo.com> wrote:

I am looking for
FRIEDMAN [...]
HALPERIN - Rabbi Abraham Leib (Full name- Abraham Zarach Aryeh
Yehudah Leibish) and Rabbi Joel HALPERIN, of Brzezany, formely known
as Brezahn.
MOSKOWITZ - Rabbi Yoel MOSKOWITZ, who was a rabbi in the town of
Shatz.
[...] Rabbi Chaim HALBERSTAM [...]

Rabbi Abraham Zorach Judah Ari Lieb HALPERIN, author of Imrey
Yehudah, Admor Brzezany, who married Sarah,the daughter of Rabbi
Yoel MOSKOWITZ of Shatz, was the son of Rabbi Meshullam Feibush
HALPERIN (1810-1874), Admor Brzezany, who was the son of Rabbi
Naftali Hertz HALPERIN, ABD Brezany (Borjan), son-in-law of R. Tuvia
Jehiel Michal of Brzezany (1775-1845). Rabbi Naftali Hertz HALPERIN
married the daughter of Rabbi Joseph Joska Gottesman HELLER of
Laskovitz ( and Ruchama Leah, daughter of Rabbi Meir of Premishlan.

Rabbi Joseph Joska Gottesman HELLER of Laskovitz (1770-1858) was the
son of R. Simeon HELLER of Mauzein (1782-1840). R. Simeon married
Shenidel Leah, the daughter of R. Joseph Joska HOROWITZ of
Waltshek(Voloczysk) and av bet din of Jassy, son of R. Aryeh Leib,
grandson of the SHELA (R, Isaiah HOROWITZ). R. Simeon HELLER's
father was R. Meshullam Feibush HELLER (1740-95), who married Yente,
the daughter of R. Mordechai of Brezany. R. Meshullam Feibush
HELLER was the son of R. Aaron Moses Halevi HELLER of Snyatin
(married Vencha, daughter of R. Israel Moses, ABD of Tishmetz), son
of R. Meir of Sitri, son of R. Abraham of Skol, son of R. Yom Tov
Lipman HELLER, author of Tosaphot Yom Tov, a famous commentary on
the Mishna.

Since Rabbi Yoel MOSKOWITZ married Miriam Chayele, another daughter
of Rabbi Meir of Premishlan, Rabbi Abraham Zorach Judah Ari Lieb
HALPERIN and his wife were cousins. Their son, R. Joel HALPERIN,
Admor Jaslo-New York, married (1) Rachel, daughter of Abraham, son
of Samuel HOROWITZ of Dembitz, who perished in Holocaust with three
children and (2) Rachel, daughter of Abraham son of R. Elijah
HOROWITZ (no issue). Rabbi Joel HALPERIN had at least three
surviving children Sarah, Chayim and Channiah, who married Dina
(Dintze), the daughter of R. Elimelech RUBIN.

My grandmother, Minna (Packer) TAUBER (a"h), who was also descended

from Rabbi Meir Premishlan, related how she spent her summers as a

child in Sucheva, Rumania, at the home of her relative, Chayale, the
wife of the Shatzer rebbe, and remembered Chayele carrying her
father's walking stick. She would play with Joel HALPERIN, who was
told that he could play with her even though she was a girl because
she was his cousin. My father (a"h") met Rabbi Joel HALPERIN who
confirmed the story.

Larry Tauber
New York

The Rom SIG met Tuesday afternoon, August 15, 2006 of the 26th IAJGS
Conference.
Chairing the meeting was Merle Kastner and moderatoring was Bruce Reisch.
About 70 members were present.
This is a non-dues paying group and anyone interested in the area is free to
join by logging onto the JewishGen site http://www.jewishgen.org/ and then
http://www.jewishgen.org/romsig/ , then subscribing to the Rom SIG e-mail
list, as per the instructions on the site. We suggest you subscribe, using
the 'digest' option.

=A handout was available, listing web sites and information that is valuable
for anyone researching the area - it is shown in this message, below.

=Notice was made that getting information >from Bucharest is still very
difficult.

=Burial records are to be put on a CD and information sent to the JewishGen
for posting on the JOWBR site.

=There will be an update on the Kishniv and Moldova Shtel site, currently in
preparation by Peter McDonald.

=The Yizkor Book for Moldava is now online.

=Renee Steinig and Simon Kreindler presented their impressions of the value
of the reunion of Czernowitzers and their descendants held in
Czernowitz/Chernivtsi, Ukraine, this past May. Simon also talked about
the steps he took to prepare for this trip.

=Bruce Reisch presented an update on resources for genealogical research
into your roots in Jewish Bukovina. Notes can be found on the following web
site: http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/sadgura/ReischToronto.html

Minutes of the meeting were taken by Dorothy Bernstein.
---------------------------------------------------------
Please note that the meeting's handout read as follows:
---------------------------------------------------------
Suggestions for Romanian Jewish Research:

Merle Kastner merlek@videotron.ca
Bruce Reisch bir1@nysaes.cornell.edu

Those interested in hiring a researcher in Romania, please check out the
name of the researcher with others, including Rosanne Leeson. You can
contact her. rdleeson@sbcglobal.net

Work is continuing on records >from Kishinev, Bendery and Beltsy and work
will start on the records >from Herta (now in the Ukraine but formerly in
Romania.) shortly.

*We do need more volunteers to work on translating the Cyrillic and
Hebrew/YiddishAnyone interested in helping out can contact Bob Wascou at:
robertw252@aol.com

If you wish to obtain copies of civil records >from Romania, you should send
a request, either by air mail or fax to:

Archivele Nationale
B-dul Regina Elisabeta nr. 49, Sector 5
050013 - Bucuresti ROMANIA
Fax: +4021-312-58-41

This request should include the following:
· Name of person who is the object of request
· Date and place of birth/marriage/death
· Religious affiliation

Rom-SIG Internet sites: http://www.jewishgen.org/romsig/

Another very useful Romanian website is: http://czernowitz.ehpes.com ,
which includes
information on joining the online Czernowitz / Sadagora Jewish Genealogy
Discussion Group.
ROM-SIG Projects:
All-Romanian Database http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/#Romania
Czernowitz Cemetery Project http://czernowitz.ehpes.com (data not yet
online)

*Orgeyev (Orhei), Moldova Yizkor book - has been fully translated by Terry
Lasky and is now online at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Orgeyev/Orgeyev.html It is 216 pages long
with over 250 pictures.

Not strictly for Romanian research, but very worthwhile for genealogy
research in general:
Steve Lasky's ever-expanding online Museum of Family History:
http://www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The Rom SIG met Tuesday afternoon, August 15, 2006 of the 26th IAJGS
Conference.
Chairing the meeting was Merle Kastner and moderatoring was Bruce Reisch.
About 70 members were present.
This is a non-dues paying group and anyone interested in the area is free to
join by logging onto the JewishGen site http://www.jewishgen.org/ and then
http://www.jewishgen.org/romsig/ , then subscribing to the Rom SIG e-mail
list, as per the instructions on the site. We suggest you subscribe, using
the 'digest' option.

=A handout was available, listing web sites and information that is valuable
for anyone researching the area - it is shown in this message, below.

=Notice was made that getting information >from Bucharest is still very
difficult.

=Burial records are to be put on a CD and information sent to the JewishGen
for posting on the JOWBR site.

=There will be an update on the Kishniv and Moldova Shtel site, currently in
preparation by Peter McDonald.

=The Yizkor Book for Moldava is now online.

=Renee Steinig and Simon Kreindler presented their impressions of the value
of the reunion of Czernowitzers and their descendants held in
Czernowitz/Chernivtsi, Ukraine, this past May. Simon also talked about
the steps he took to prepare for this trip.

=Bruce Reisch presented an update on resources for genealogical research
into your roots in Jewish Bukovina. Notes can be found on the following web
site: http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/sadgura/ReischToronto.html

Minutes of the meeting were taken by Dorothy Bernstein.
---------------------------------------------------------
Please note that the meeting's handout read as follows:
---------------------------------------------------------
Suggestions for Romanian Jewish Research:

Merle Kastner merlek@videotron.ca
Bruce Reisch bir1@nysaes.cornell.edu

Those interested in hiring a researcher in Romania, please check out the
name of the researcher with others, including Rosanne Leeson. You can
contact her. rdleeson@sbcglobal.net

Work is continuing on records >from Kishinev, Bendery and Beltsy and work
will start on the records >from Herta (now in the Ukraine but formerly in
Romania.) shortly.

*We do need more volunteers to work on translating the Cyrillic and
Hebrew/YiddishAnyone interested in helping out can contact Bob Wascou at:
robertw252@aol.com

If you wish to obtain copies of civil records >from Romania, you should send
a request, either by air mail or fax to:

Archivele Nationale
B-dul Regina Elisabeta nr. 49, Sector 5
050013 - Bucuresti ROMANIA
Fax: +4021-312-58-41

This request should include the following:
· Name of person who is the object of request
· Date and place of birth/marriage/death
· Religious affiliation

Rom-SIG Internet sites: http://www.jewishgen.org/romsig/

Another very useful Romanian website is: http://czernowitz.ehpes.com ,
which includes
information on joining the online Czernowitz / Sadagora Jewish Genealogy
Discussion Group.
ROM-SIG Projects:
All-Romanian Database http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/#Romania
Czernowitz Cemetery Project http://czernowitz.ehpes.com (data not yet
online)

*Orgeyev (Orhei), Moldova Yizkor book - has been fully translated by Terry
Lasky and is now online at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Orgeyev/Orgeyev.html It is 216 pages long
with over 250 pictures.

Not strictly for Romanian research, but very worthwhile for genealogy
research in general:
Steve Lasky's ever-expanding online Museum of Family History:
http://www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

We are trying to find a researcher to locate documents in the archives in
Kovno and Vilna. If anyone knows of a private researcher we would very much
appreciate hearing >from you.

Thank You

Marjorie Goldberg
Miami, Florida

MODERATOR'S NOTE; Please send any recommendations of researchers privately.

There is a Vishtinitz; look it up. That may be what you heard or saw.

Cliff Karchmer

We are trying to find a researcher to locate documents in the archives in
Kovno and Vilna. If anyone knows of a private researcher we would very much
appreciate hearing >from you.

Thank You

Marjorie Goldberg
Miami, Florida

MODERATOR'S NOTE; Please send any recommendations of researchers privately.

There is a Vishtinitz; look it up. That may be what you heard or saw.

Cliff Karchmer

I might also add to my previous suggestion, Disna,
which I believe was in the same region.

I might also add to my previous suggestion, Disna,
which I believe was in the same region.

Try Disna. Contact Batya Olsen at batyao@netsynthesis.com

Carol Baker
Former Districts Research Groups Coordinator

Subject: Distinetz?
From: "Steven Bloom" <sbloom@hsc.edu>
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:32:36 -0400

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Batya Olsen is Coordinator of LitvakSIG's Disna Uyezd
Research Group.

Try Disna. Contact Batya Olsen at batyao@netsynthesis.com

Carol Baker
Former Districts Research Groups Coordinator

Subject: Distinetz?
From: "Steven Bloom" <sbloom@hsc.edu>
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 10:32:36 -0400

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Batya Olsen is Coordinator of LitvakSIG's Disna Uyezd
Research Group.

Shlomo Yaakov Rapaport wrote:

1. Can anyone help me find where Distinetz, Lithuania is or was?
Maybe it exists with a different name today?? An internet search on
the JewishGen site and a general internet search, as well as a look
over old and new maps of Lithuania have not helped up to now.

[...]

My Grandfather was
born in Distinetz, Lithuania. This is the way the name of the town was
remembered by his siblings and children and this is backed up in official
papers that he wrote the name after he left Lithuania and is published
even in a number of books published where our family roots and tree are
explored.

Sounds a lot like Wistinetz (Vishtinetz), in Vilkaviskis uyezd, Suwalki
gubernia. In Lithuanian it is called Vištytis and is now on the border
to the Kaliningrad enclave. 170 km west of Vilna.

Regards,

Simon Tardell,
Stockholm, Sweden.

Shlomo Yaakov Rapaport wrote:

1. Can anyone help me find where Distinetz, Lithuania is or was?
Maybe it exists with a different name today?? An internet search on
the JewishGen site and a general internet search, as well as a look
over old and new maps of Lithuania have not helped up to now.

[...]

My Grandfather was
born in Distinetz, Lithuania. This is the way the name of the town was
remembered by his siblings and children and this is backed up in official
papers that he wrote the name after he left Lithuania and is published
even in a number of books published where our family roots and tree are
explored.

Sounds a lot like Wistinetz (Vishtinetz), in Vilkaviskis uyezd, Suwalki
gubernia. In Lithuanian it is called Vištytis and is now on the border
to the Kaliningrad enclave. 170 km west of Vilna.

Regards,

Simon Tardell,
Stockholm, Sweden.