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www.oroklet.hu #hungary

Lachaus
 

While searching www.oroklet.hu, I came across an oddity.
I searched for Cecilia ROTHSTEIN (wife of Izak Lipót HAUSER) and tried:
1. Rothstein
2. Rothstein C
3. Rothstein Cecilia
The three returned nil results.

I then tried:
1. Hauser Lipótné
2. Hauser L
3. Hauser Lipót
The three returned positive results:

Hauser Lipótné Rothstein Cecilia exh.
(1850 - 1905)
Kozma utca - Budapest
7 . Parcella 2 . 2 23 . sirhely

I would be grateful if someone could shed some light on the meaning of
"exh."

Many thanks
Paula HAUSER

Paula HAUSER
Brussels
Researching: WEINER, HOROVITZ, HIRN, GUTMANN, (Budapest and Slovakia)
HAUSER, HAJDU, STRASSER, SEEMAN (Budapest), RUBINSTEIN (Budapest,
Sieniawa)


Hungary SIG #Hungary www.oroklet.hu #hungary

Lachaus
 

While searching www.oroklet.hu, I came across an oddity.
I searched for Cecilia ROTHSTEIN (wife of Izak Lipót HAUSER) and tried:
1. Rothstein
2. Rothstein C
3. Rothstein Cecilia
The three returned nil results.

I then tried:
1. Hauser Lipótné
2. Hauser L
3. Hauser Lipót
The three returned positive results:

Hauser Lipótné Rothstein Cecilia exh.
(1850 - 1905)
Kozma utca - Budapest
7 . Parcella 2 . 2 23 . sirhely

I would be grateful if someone could shed some light on the meaning of
"exh."

Many thanks
Paula HAUSER

Paula HAUSER
Brussels
Researching: WEINER, HOROVITZ, HIRN, GUTMANN, (Budapest and Slovakia)
HAUSER, HAJDU, STRASSER, SEEMAN (Budapest), RUBINSTEIN (Budapest,
Sieniawa)


Re: www.oroklet.hu #hungary

Robert Neu
 

May be a typo for Uron. Ur is SIr, Mr, Gentleman in Hungarian.
Robert Neu

--- Karen Cecilio <kcecilio@ureach.com> wrote:


Hello,

I have looked up some possible relatives on this
new database and had a couple questions as to the
results:

1) Between the number and the name is the word
"ozv.". Looking in a Hungarian translator, I think
it means "widow". Could it mean something else?

2) One of the names is listed as "Kaunitz µron".
I am wondering if the "µ" is a Hungarian letter I
am not familiar with, of if it is a mis-type?
Looking in Wikipedia, it is the 12th letter of the
Greek alphabet called Mu.

Any thoughts? Please respond privately if that is
more appropriate.

Thanks,
Karen Cecilio
Akron Ohio

Researching KAUNITZ, KAUNICZ in all of Hungary


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: www.oroklet.hu #hungary

Robert Neu
 

May be a typo for Uron. Ur is SIr, Mr, Gentleman in Hungarian.
Robert Neu

--- Karen Cecilio <kcecilio@ureach.com> wrote:


Hello,

I have looked up some possible relatives on this
new database and had a couple questions as to the
results:

1) Between the number and the name is the word
"ozv.". Looking in a Hungarian translator, I think
it means "widow". Could it mean something else?

2) One of the names is listed as "Kaunitz µron".
I am wondering if the "µ" is a Hungarian letter I
am not familiar with, of if it is a mis-type?
Looking in Wikipedia, it is the 12th letter of the
Greek alphabet called Mu.

Any thoughts? Please respond privately if that is
more appropriate.

Thanks,
Karen Cecilio
Akron Ohio

Researching KAUNITZ, KAUNICZ in all of Hungary


Re: New Documents in Yad Vashem #hungary

Gábor Hirsch <g_hirsch@...>
 

As I understood >from the site, I can type in place, year and nationality, as I was liberated by the Soviet, taken to Kattowitz, Chernowitz and Sluzk (Belorus), and as the list of Sluzk appeared also in the "Hirek az Elhurcoltakrol" expected to find some information. Because Sluzk was an international camp where the Italian writer, survivor spent some month too I hoped to find some traces, but somehow it didn't work, neither with Explorer nor with Firefox, I can't say what did I wrong.

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch


-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Datum: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:35:26 +0300
Von: "Katz, Itzik" <Itzik.Katz@KLA-Tencor.com>
An: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Betreff: [h-sig] New Documents in Yad Vashem

Hello All,
Yad Vashem has uploaded a large set of scanned documents that were found
in former USSR archives. The database is searchable and contains about 5
Million names of people >from all the areas that were liberated by the
Red Army.

The database has a basic and advanced search engines and the documents
are in PDF format.

To get to the data base go to the following link
http://www.yadvashem.org/lwp/workplace/listoflist/?WT.mc_id=lolen

We should all be thankful for Yad-Vashem continuous effort to have its
information made open to the public and uploaded to the internet.
Isaac Katz
Israel


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: New Documents in Yad Vashem #hungary

Gábor Hirsch <g_hirsch@...>
 

As I understood >from the site, I can type in place, year and nationality, as I was liberated by the Soviet, taken to Kattowitz, Chernowitz and Sluzk (Belorus), and as the list of Sluzk appeared also in the "Hirek az Elhurcoltakrol" expected to find some information. Because Sluzk was an international camp where the Italian writer, survivor spent some month too I hoped to find some traces, but somehow it didn't work, neither with Explorer nor with Firefox, I can't say what did I wrong.

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch


-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Datum: Thu, 3 Aug 2006 09:35:26 +0300
Von: "Katz, Itzik" <Itzik.Katz@KLA-Tencor.com>
An: "H-SIG" <h-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Betreff: [h-sig] New Documents in Yad Vashem

Hello All,
Yad Vashem has uploaded a large set of scanned documents that were found
in former USSR archives. The database is searchable and contains about 5
Million names of people >from all the areas that were liberated by the
Red Army.

The database has a basic and advanced search engines and the documents
are in PDF format.

To get to the data base go to the following link
http://www.yadvashem.org/lwp/workplace/listoflist/?WT.mc_id=lolen

We should all be thankful for Yad-Vashem continuous effort to have its
information made open to the public and uploaded to the internet.
Isaac Katz
Israel


Thank you for all the help re Benjamin Bilkowitz, may have lived in AL, MS, LA;died before 30 May 1911 #general

Marshaleigh Bahan <mobahan@...>
 

The help is great and very useful. With this support, we may solve
some mysteries. Again , many thanks. Marsha


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Thank you for all the help re Benjamin Bilkowitz, may have lived in AL, MS, LA;died before 30 May 1911 #general

Marshaleigh Bahan <mobahan@...>
 

The help is great and very useful. With this support, we may solve
some mysteries. Again , many thanks. Marsha


Symposium: Hidden Jewish Heritage: Exploring a Path to Return #general

B'nai Sephardim <bnaisephardim@...>
 

Hidden Jewish Heritage: Exploring a Path to Return

Denver, CO (August 5, 2006) - Over the past thirty years, there has
been a growing movement of Hispanos discovering the Jewish Heritage.
These Hispanos have come to realize that they are descendants of Jews
from Spain and Portugal that settled in the American Southwest and whom
had to hide their Jewish identity due to the Spanish Inquisition. As
this information has been revealed there has been a desire >from these
descendants of Hidden Jews to reconnect to their Jewish roots and to
truly understand what it means to be Jewish. To facilitate this
process, B'nai Sephardim of Colorado is hosting a symposium to help
foster the return of Hispanos to their Jewish heritage. The symposium
(Hidden Jewish Heritage: Exploring a Path to Return) will be held on
Sunday, September 10, 2006 at the Radisson Denver Southeast >from 8:00
AM to 5:00 PM. Admission is free and the Symposium is open to the
public. >from the historical, genealogical, and personal perspectives,
this symposium will cover the gamete of issues of interest to those
with Hidden Jewish ancestry.

The event is sponsored by B'nai Sephardim of Colorado. B'nai
Sephardim of Colorado is committed to bringing together the descendants
of Hidden Jews through education, community outreach, and advocacy.

For more information on the Hidden Jewish Heritage Symposium or B'nai
Sephardim of Colorado, please call (970) 980-1524 or visit our website
www.somosjudios.org.

Michael Fajardo
B'nai Sephardim of Colorado
email: bnaisephardim@gmail.com
phone: 970.980.1524
web: www.somosjudios.org


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Symposium: Hidden Jewish Heritage: Exploring a Path to Return #general

B'nai Sephardim <bnaisephardim@...>
 

Hidden Jewish Heritage: Exploring a Path to Return

Denver, CO (August 5, 2006) - Over the past thirty years, there has
been a growing movement of Hispanos discovering the Jewish Heritage.
These Hispanos have come to realize that they are descendants of Jews
from Spain and Portugal that settled in the American Southwest and whom
had to hide their Jewish identity due to the Spanish Inquisition. As
this information has been revealed there has been a desire >from these
descendants of Hidden Jews to reconnect to their Jewish roots and to
truly understand what it means to be Jewish. To facilitate this
process, B'nai Sephardim of Colorado is hosting a symposium to help
foster the return of Hispanos to their Jewish heritage. The symposium
(Hidden Jewish Heritage: Exploring a Path to Return) will be held on
Sunday, September 10, 2006 at the Radisson Denver Southeast >from 8:00
AM to 5:00 PM. Admission is free and the Symposium is open to the
public. >from the historical, genealogical, and personal perspectives,
this symposium will cover the gamete of issues of interest to those
with Hidden Jewish ancestry.

The event is sponsored by B'nai Sephardim of Colorado. B'nai
Sephardim of Colorado is committed to bringing together the descendants
of Hidden Jews through education, community outreach, and advocacy.

For more information on the Hidden Jewish Heritage Symposium or B'nai
Sephardim of Colorado, please call (970) 980-1524 or visit our website
www.somosjudios.org.

Michael Fajardo
B'nai Sephardim of Colorado
email: bnaisephardim@gmail.com
phone: 970.980.1524
web: www.somosjudios.org


Re: Emigration From Cuba 1930 #general

Stephen Denker
 

The National Archives Website has a list of all the ports (many in Florida
as well as New York City) for which they have microfilms. I found microfilm
numbers for 1920- 1930 manifests for Havana to New York ship travel using
the Ancestry Library website accessible in many public libraries and the
Archives. For some reason the Ancestry lists are not complete. But I did
find my family on several ships. I then went to NARA to view the manifest
films. The manifests were typed and they often also have ship crew lists.

NARA also has a card index microfilm for the 20th century, but I found it
confusing and it seemed to me inaccurate.

Stephen Denker
Brookline, MA


Marriage age in NY in 1919 #general

sangreenb@...
 

Hi Jewishgenners:

Does anyone know if you had to be at least 18 years old in order to get
married in Queens, NY in the year 1919?

I have someone who I believe was 14 years old getting married in Queens.
However, on her NY marriage certificate she states her age as 18.

Any help with this is appreciated.

Am looking forward to the IAJGS NY Summer Seminar next Sunday where I will
see many of my genealogy buddies.

TIA
Sandra Greenberg
Denver, CO
sangreenb@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Emigration From Cuba 1930 #general

Stephen Denker
 

The National Archives Website has a list of all the ports (many in Florida
as well as New York City) for which they have microfilms. I found microfilm
numbers for 1920- 1930 manifests for Havana to New York ship travel using
the Ancestry Library website accessible in many public libraries and the
Archives. For some reason the Ancestry lists are not complete. But I did
find my family on several ships. I then went to NARA to view the manifest
films. The manifests were typed and they often also have ship crew lists.

NARA also has a card index microfilm for the 20th century, but I found it
confusing and it seemed to me inaccurate.

Stephen Denker
Brookline, MA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Marriage age in NY in 1919 #general

sangreenb@...
 

Hi Jewishgenners:

Does anyone know if you had to be at least 18 years old in order to get
married in Queens, NY in the year 1919?

I have someone who I believe was 14 years old getting married in Queens.
However, on her NY marriage certificate she states her age as 18.

Any help with this is appreciated.

Am looking forward to the IAJGS NY Summer Seminar next Sunday where I will
see many of my genealogy buddies.

TIA
Sandra Greenberg
Denver, CO
sangreenb@aol.com


tombstones in India #general

Harold Greenberg <harold7@...>
 

Isaac Solomon has now returned to Eilat, Israel after spending several
months in India photographing tombstones. I am assisting him in
organizing this material and uploading it to the internet. His data
sheets describing each photo are still in transit >from India. When
they arrive, further information will be available.

In the meantime, I have uploaded 560 photos, sorted into 28 cemeteries -
http://urlx.org/yahoo.com/c809a

Of general interest is the Chichpokli Cemetery as it has SASSOONs
buried there, some of whom were born in Baghdad - photos 3628, 3633,
3634, 3645, 3648, 3657 and 3659.
=====
researching - GREENBERG, SHAPIRO (kohanim), ROSENTHAL - Vaslui, Romania
WIDAWSKY, SZER - Klobuck and Praszka, Czestochowa, Kielce, Poland
HYMAN - Myegina, Piotrkow, Poland
ISRAELOWITZ - Piotrkow, Poland
====
Harold Hershel Zvi Greenberg
Eilat, Israel
harold.greenberg@utoronto.ca


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen tombstones in India #general

Harold Greenberg <harold7@...>
 

Isaac Solomon has now returned to Eilat, Israel after spending several
months in India photographing tombstones. I am assisting him in
organizing this material and uploading it to the internet. His data
sheets describing each photo are still in transit >from India. When
they arrive, further information will be available.

In the meantime, I have uploaded 560 photos, sorted into 28 cemeteries -
http://urlx.org/yahoo.com/c809a

Of general interest is the Chichpokli Cemetery as it has SASSOONs
buried there, some of whom were born in Baghdad - photos 3628, 3633,
3634, 3645, 3648, 3657 and 3659.
=====
researching - GREENBERG, SHAPIRO (kohanim), ROSENTHAL - Vaslui, Romania
WIDAWSKY, SZER - Klobuck and Praszka, Czestochowa, Kielce, Poland
HYMAN - Myegina, Piotrkow, Poland
ISRAELOWITZ - Piotrkow, Poland
====
Harold Hershel Zvi Greenberg
Eilat, Israel
harold.greenberg@utoronto.ca


question about New York death records #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Kaye Paletz asked, "If you need a recent death record and the name is a
common one, is there a way to look at the death records at the Dept of
Health in NY without purchasing them. The info on them (next of kin or
date of birth) will confirm which person but I really don't want to get
records that are the incorrect ones. Is there a way to get around this
problem."

I answer: The short answer to the first question is no, but there is a
way around it, and it depends on whether you know the year of the person's
death.

You can't actually look at the death certificates that the Department
of Health has. It's totally different >from the N.Y.C. Municipal Archives.
You can only apply to the Department of Health to get a copy of a
specific certificate, and give them the information to locate it, along
with a $15 fee.

The fee covers not only a certified copy of the death certificate, but
also includes a search of two calendar years. You always have to tell
them a year so they know where to look. If ten different people named
Abraham Levy died in a certain year and you know his parents' names,
they'll send you only the one whose parents' names match the information
on your request -- you don't have to "buy" all ten death certificates. A
date of birth or approximate age also helps narrow things down to the
right person.

If you don't know the year, you still have to make an educated guess to
point them in the right direction -- otherwise, they won't know whether to
look in records >from 1950 or 1990. There's an additional charge of $3 per
year in addition to the initial two year search, and they'll still send a
certificate only if the information you supply matches (or is close). In
other words, they'll try not to send a death certificate of somebody who's
clearly the wrong person, but it will cost you if you don't know the exact
year and guess incorrectly.

If they find nothing, or nothing that matches, they'll send you a
statement that nothing was found for the search parameters you gave.

The application can be accessed at
http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/downloads/pdf/vr/death1.pdf . Spaces 15 on
the application asks, "For what purpose are you going to use this
certificate?" Based on experience, "genealogy" is not necessarily a valid
reason; proof of death to divide or claim assets, or ascertaining a burial
location to visit the grave have been.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen question about New York death records #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Kaye Paletz asked, "If you need a recent death record and the name is a
common one, is there a way to look at the death records at the Dept of
Health in NY without purchasing them. The info on them (next of kin or
date of birth) will confirm which person but I really don't want to get
records that are the incorrect ones. Is there a way to get around this
problem."

I answer: The short answer to the first question is no, but there is a
way around it, and it depends on whether you know the year of the person's
death.

You can't actually look at the death certificates that the Department
of Health has. It's totally different >from the N.Y.C. Municipal Archives.
You can only apply to the Department of Health to get a copy of a
specific certificate, and give them the information to locate it, along
with a $15 fee.

The fee covers not only a certified copy of the death certificate, but
also includes a search of two calendar years. You always have to tell
them a year so they know where to look. If ten different people named
Abraham Levy died in a certain year and you know his parents' names,
they'll send you only the one whose parents' names match the information
on your request -- you don't have to "buy" all ten death certificates. A
date of birth or approximate age also helps narrow things down to the
right person.

If you don't know the year, you still have to make an educated guess to
point them in the right direction -- otherwise, they won't know whether to
look in records >from 1950 or 1990. There's an additional charge of $3 per
year in addition to the initial two year search, and they'll still send a
certificate only if the information you supply matches (or is close). In
other words, they'll try not to send a death certificate of somebody who's
clearly the wrong person, but it will cost you if you don't know the exact
year and guess incorrectly.

If they find nothing, or nothing that matches, they'll send you a
statement that nothing was found for the search parameters you gave.

The application can be accessed at
http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/downloads/pdf/vr/death1.pdf . Spaces 15 on
the application asks, "For what purpose are you going to use this
certificate?" Based on experience, "genealogy" is not necessarily a valid
reason; proof of death to divide or claim assets, or ascertaining a burial
location to visit the grave have been.

Ira
Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


Re: Cemetery in NJ #general

Zev Griner <zgriner@...>
 

In general, here is a link to start with when you have questions about
cemeteries:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Cemetery/

Zev Griner

Rochelle P. Gershenow wrote:

I am trying to identify the name of a cemetery I believe to be on Livingston
Avenue in New Brunswick, NJ (USA). It was a Workman's Circle cemetery that
may have been taken over by the city. I understand that it is a locked
cemetery and that one needs to make arrangements to go into it. I also need
contact information so I can inquire about viewing a grave in the cemetery.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Cemetery in NJ #general

Zev Griner <zgriner@...>
 

In general, here is a link to start with when you have questions about
cemeteries:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Cemetery/

Zev Griner

Rochelle P. Gershenow wrote:

I am trying to identify the name of a cemetery I believe to be on Livingston
Avenue in New Brunswick, NJ (USA). It was a Workman's Circle cemetery that
may have been taken over by the city. I understand that it is a locked
cemetery and that one needs to make arrangements to go into it. I also need
contact information so I can inquire about viewing a grave in the cemetery.