Can you help me! My gmother,Rosa(Chage)Wolf was born in Lemberg,Austria
to a Harry and Rose Wolf (Goodman) on February 2, 1869 This is all that
I know.I know that it is no longer a part of Austria-that it is called
Lwow,Poland or Lviv, Ukraine and have written to both places and still
at ground zero after four or five years searching. Thank you for your
effort.

Rose Hoffman

To all those researchers out there.
Does anyone have photos or names of Jewish children that arrived in
Palestine on approx December 28th 1939 on the ship Jerusalem. I believe that
this was one of the last transports >from Euorope and I believe it left >from
Genoa.

Regards Sherry

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.

Can you help me! My gmother,Rosa(Chage)Wolf was born in Lemberg,Austria
to a Harry and Rose Wolf (Goodman) on February 2, 1869 This is all that
I know.I know that it is no longer a part of Austria-that it is called
Lwow,Poland or Lviv, Ukraine and have written to both places and still
at ground zero after four or five years searching. Thank you for your
effort.

Rose Hoffman

To all those researchers out there.
Does anyone have photos or names of Jewish children that arrived in
Palestine on approx December 28th 1939 on the ship Jerusalem. I believe that
this was one of the last transports >from Euorope and I believe it left >from
Genoa.

Regards Sherry

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.

The Internal Passport Database - 1919-1940 - on JewishGen has just been
updated. Over 10,000 additional records have been added to the database.
The introduction to the database has also been updated with exciting new
information included so it is a good idea to read the introduction in
addition to searching the database.

The database now consists of over 21,000 records, including records >from
the following towns;
City of Kaunas, Jonava, Kaunas Uyezd, Panevezys, Pumpenai, Rokiskis,
Troskunai, Vandziogala and the Vandziogala area.

In addition to doing a surname search, also do a town search and you
may find records of your ancestors in a different shtetl. Internal
Passport files for Kupiskis and Skapiskis do not exist. However,if you do
a town search for either of those towns,you will be amazed at the amount
of information that will come up.

Do a town search for Rokiskis even if that is not your shtetl. You will
see an example of the wealth of information contained in some of the
files.

Presently, internal passport files for the following towns are in the
process of being translated - additional records for Panevezys, as well
as records for the town of Naujamiestes. Even more exciting, work has
just started on the files for the Seinai (Sejny), Uyezd. Sejny is now
in Poland but was originally in the Suwalki District which included
towns and villages that are now in Poland and in Lithuania. All of the
towns in the district are included - Lazdijai and Kupciamiestis just
to name two.

To learn about the internal passports, and to search the database,
go to;

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Lithuania/InternalPassports.htm

Howard Margol
Atlanta, Georgia
homargol@aol.com
www.pusalotas.org

The Internal Passport Database - 1919-1940 - on JewishGen has just been
updated. Over 10,000 additional records have been added to the database.
The introduction to the database has also been updated with exciting new
information included so it is a good idea to read the introduction in
addition to searching the database.

The database now consists of over 21,000 records, including records >from
the following towns;
City of Kaunas, Jonava, Kaunas Uyezd, Panevezys, Pumpenai, Rokiskis,
Troskunai, Vandziogala and the Vandziogala area.

In addition to doing a surname search, also do a town search and you
may find records of your ancestors in a different shtetl. Internal
Passport files for Kupiskis and Skapiskis do not exist. However,if you do
a town search for either of those towns,you will be amazed at the amount
of information that will come up.

Do a town search for Rokiskis even if that is not your shtetl. You will
see an example of the wealth of information contained in some of the
files.

Presently, internal passport files for the following towns are in the
process of being translated - additional records for Panevezys, as well
as records for the town of Naujamiestes. Even more exciting, work has
just started on the files for the Seinai (Sejny), Uyezd. Sejny is now
in Poland but was originally in the Suwalki District which included
towns and villages that are now in Poland and in Lithuania. All of the
towns in the district are included - Lazdijai and Kupciamiestis just
to name two.

To learn about the internal passports, and to search the database,
go to;

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Lithuania/InternalPassports.htm

Howard Margol
Atlanta, Georgia
homargol@aol.com
www.pusalotas.org

I am looking for information on these Rabbis who
were in Jonava at some point before the Holocaust. The
connection is to a Freda KHASID who wrote the
following. I cannot tell whether Freda's maiden or
married surname was KHASID.

"I am the youngest daughter of Rebe Israel
Yakov. We were 2 daughters and one son. Our
mother died soon after we were deported >from
Janovo in 1914 (?could be typo for 1941?) . My
brother Alter was a teacher in the " Yavne"
school. He was an artist and a sculptor there.
My sister was married to the son of Rebe
Shimon. They had 4 sons. Our brother Alter
was married to Libe Chana , the daughter of
Rebe Shmirl Stern . They had twins , 2 girls.
All of them were killed in Shoa."

Unfortunately I get application errors whenever I try
to search Yad Vashem.

Sincerely,
Yehudah ben Shlomo
U.S.A.

I am looking for information on these Rabbis who
were in Jonava at some point before the Holocaust. The
connection is to a Freda KHASID who wrote the
following. I cannot tell whether Freda's maiden or
married surname was KHASID.

"I am the youngest daughter of Rebe Israel
Yakov. We were 2 daughters and one son. Our
mother died soon after we were deported >from
Janovo in 1914 (?could be typo for 1941?) . My
brother Alter was a teacher in the " Yavne"
school. He was an artist and a sculptor there.
My sister was married to the son of Rebe
Shimon. They had 4 sons. Our brother Alter
was married to Libe Chana , the daughter of
Rebe Shmirl Stern . They had twins , 2 girls.
All of them were killed in Shoa."

Unfortunately I get application errors whenever I try
to search Yad Vashem.

Sincerely,
Yehudah ben Shlomo
U.S.A.

Is it too late to try and arrange some meeting of the Janow Sokolki
researchers in NY?

If you think it worth, please look for me on Sunday, August 13 at the
JRI-Poland Luncheon.

Shalom >from Israel,
Chana Furman, IGS
Banczwski - Sokolka, Janow Sokolki; Plotnick - Janow Sokolki; Markiewicz -
Piotrekow Trybunalski; Furman - Choroszcz; Friedman - Wlodawa.

Is it too late to try and arrange some meeting of the Janow Sokolki
researchers in NY?

If you think it worth, please look for me on Sunday, August 13 at the
JRI-Poland Luncheon.

Shalom >from Israel,
Chana Furman, IGS
Banczwski - Sokolka, Janow Sokolki; Plotnick - Janow Sokolki; Markiewicz -
Piotrekow Trybunalski; Furman - Choroszcz; Friedman - Wlodawa.

Fraida wrote:

Thanks for the reply.

I wonder if the fact that they apparently lived near the docks would
explain
why the Poultow/Poulton father was a shipwright and son was a marine
engineer.

Fraida Cohen
New York

That's a 'chicken and egg' situation.

Maybe they lived near the docks *because* they were a shipwright and a
marine engineer.
They wouldn't have found much work if they lived miles >from any docks!
In those days, most workers walked to work, so had to live nearby.

Looking at it the other way, they could have been in the shipbuilding trade
because that was the only industry near to where they lived where they could
get apprenticeships >from the employer(s). Both these jobs were quite highly
skilled (marine engineer especially so).

Were they shipbuilders who had to live near their work, or were they living
near to the docks so became shipbuilders?

I suggest that it was a bit of both.

Henry Best [LONDON]







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Fraida wrote:

Thanks for the reply.

I wonder if the fact that they apparently lived near the docks would
explain
why the Poultow/Poulton father was a shipwright and son was a marine
engineer.

Fraida Cohen
New York

That's a 'chicken and egg' situation.

Maybe they lived near the docks *because* they were a shipwright and a
marine engineer.
They wouldn't have found much work if they lived miles >from any docks!
In those days, most workers walked to work, so had to live nearby.

Looking at it the other way, they could have been in the shipbuilding trade
because that was the only industry near to where they lived where they could
get apprenticeships >from the employer(s). Both these jobs were quite highly
skilled (marine engineer especially so).

Were they shipbuilders who had to live near their work, or were they living
near to the docks so became shipbuilders?

I suggest that it was a bit of both.

Henry Best [LONDON]







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Banquet Chair of the NY 2006, Eden Joachim, tells me that he will
need of a couple of volunteers to check tickets at the GerSIG luncheon
on Monday, August 14 and also at the Banquet on Thursday evening.

If you can assist in this way please respond to: esjoachim@optonline.net

Please don't use your "reply" button to respond to this message.
Reply only to: Eden Joachim Pomona, NY esjoachim@optonline.net

Thank you. John Paul Lowens Suburban NYC, GerSIG Coordinator

Banquet Chair of the NY 2006, Eden Joachim, tells me that he will
need of a couple of volunteers to check tickets at the GerSIG luncheon
on Monday, August 14 and also at the Banquet on Thursday evening.

If you can assist in this way please respond to: esjoachim@optonline.net

Please don't use your "reply" button to respond to this message.
Reply only to: Eden Joachim Pomona, NY esjoachim@optonline.net

Thank you. John Paul Lowens Suburban NYC, GerSIG Coordinator

To my note as seen below, I received the following response >from the
Moderator.
According to Moderator's suggestion, I am sending this e-mail by copy to
support@jewishgen.org as well.
=================================
Moderator: It is JewishGen's practice to maintain the anonymity of
moderators.
Any subscriber with concerns or questions regarding JewishGen procedures and
guidelines may convey them to support@jewishgen.org.
===================================
Why? It lends itself to unresponsive or rude responses >from moderators.
Quality of moderator's work, help and responses increases if there is no
anonymity. It also gives the same added helpful information about the moderator, that
may be used in determining the value of a response. And why should there be
anonymity? I remember the time in the not too distant past, when moderators
did identify themselves. It created a more friendly atmosphere

I would really like to see the accepting of responsibility by the moderators
for their responses through identifying them selves..

Leslie Eloed
California US
leloed@aol.com
===================================

Anonymity:

I agree with the moderators, that the name and location of those writing
comments should always be at the end of the message.
It often helps to evaluate the recommendation and advice. Like, if you are
in Hungary, the value of your help may be different then if you are in So
America.
The sending e-mail address is not defining neither the name nor the
location. I live in the US, in California, but among the many e-mail
addresses I use,
there are some in Hungary, .HU or in the Islands, like .CC or in any other
country.

As far as the comment regarding anonymous moderators, I do agree.
Moderators should also follow the same rules, and ALWAYS IDENTIFY
THEMSELVES
by both their names and location.
In the way back past, it used to be that way.

Leslie Eloed
California, USA

Moderator: Complaints about unresponsive or rude responses >from moderators, as well as comments and recommendations about JewishGen procedures,
guidelines, and policies can be sent to <support@jewishgen.org> JewishGen has several reasons for maintaining the anonymity of list moderators.
One is to avoid personal attacks and abusive comments directed toward moderators. While not common, this has happened. Another reason for this policy
is to ensure that moderators, all of whom are volunteers, will not be subjected to scores of off-list e-mail messages. Please bear in mind that all
JewishGen list moderators are volunteers. Given the sizeable number of subscribers to the Hungarian SIG list and several others, this would create an
additional burden for moderators making it even more difficult to recruit volunteers for this position. We believe that the vast majority of JewishGen
list subscribers, who now number in the thousands, understand and have no objections to this policy.

To my note as seen below, I received the following response >from the
Moderator.
According to Moderator's suggestion, I am sending this e-mail by copy to
support@jewishgen.org as well.
=================================
Moderator: It is JewishGen's practice to maintain the anonymity of
moderators.
Any subscriber with concerns or questions regarding JewishGen procedures and
guidelines may convey them to support@jewishgen.org.
===================================
Why? It lends itself to unresponsive or rude responses >from moderators.
Quality of moderator's work, help and responses increases if there is no
anonymity. It also gives the same added helpful information about the moderator, that
may be used in determining the value of a response. And why should there be
anonymity? I remember the time in the not too distant past, when moderators
did identify themselves. It created a more friendly atmosphere

I would really like to see the accepting of responsibility by the moderators
for their responses through identifying them selves..

Leslie Eloed
California US
leloed@aol.com
===================================

Anonymity:

I agree with the moderators, that the name and location of those writing
comments should always be at the end of the message.
It often helps to evaluate the recommendation and advice. Like, if you are
in Hungary, the value of your help may be different then if you are in So
America.
The sending e-mail address is not defining neither the name nor the
location. I live in the US, in California, but among the many e-mail
addresses I use,
there are some in Hungary, .HU or in the Islands, like .CC or in any other
country.

As far as the comment regarding anonymous moderators, I do agree.
Moderators should also follow the same rules, and ALWAYS IDENTIFY
THEMSELVES
by both their names and location.
In the way back past, it used to be that way.

Leslie Eloed
California, USA

Moderator: Complaints about unresponsive or rude responses >from moderators, as well as comments and recommendations about JewishGen procedures,
guidelines, and policies can be sent to <support@jewishgen.org> JewishGen has several reasons for maintaining the anonymity of list moderators.
One is to avoid personal attacks and abusive comments directed toward moderators. While not common, this has happened. Another reason for this policy
is to ensure that moderators, all of whom are volunteers, will not be subjected to scores of off-list e-mail messages. Please bear in mind that all
JewishGen list moderators are volunteers. Given the sizeable number of subscribers to the Hungarian SIG list and several others, this would create an
additional burden for moderators making it even more difficult to recruit volunteers for this position. We believe that the vast majority of JewishGen
list subscribers, who now number in the thousands, understand and have no objections to this policy.

Siggers,

I found that an ancestor's records indicate his name was spelled LOWY
with a
right-slanted quotation mark over the O. I can't seem to find that
diactritical mark or letter on my Hungarian keyboard. Is it the same as
a
"tilda", the wavy horizontal "s" used in Spanish? If not, can someone
kindly
tell me where it is on the keyboard?

Thank you.

Regards,
Bonnie Frederics
Tucson, AZ
picturethisfilm@email.com
Seeking: ZEISLER/CZEISLER; LOWY; UNGAR. GROEDEL; WEINER; ERNST/ECSEDI =
(Eger,
DiosGyor, Kazincz, Ga'cs, Marmarross, Budapest, Szolnok; Szentes; =
Kapolna;
Tarnamera, Ujfalu; Vacs)

Siggers,

I found that an ancestor's records indicate his name was spelled LOWY
with a
right-slanted quotation mark over the O. I can't seem to find that
diactritical mark or letter on my Hungarian keyboard. Is it the same as
a
"tilda", the wavy horizontal "s" used in Spanish? If not, can someone
kindly
tell me where it is on the keyboard?

Thank you.

Regards,
Bonnie Frederics
Tucson, AZ
picturethisfilm@email.com
Seeking: ZEISLER/CZEISLER; LOWY; UNGAR. GROEDEL; WEINER; ERNST/ECSEDI =
(Eger,
DiosGyor, Kazincz, Ga'cs, Marmarross, Budapest, Szolnok; Szentes; =
Kapolna;
Tarnamera, Ujfalu; Vacs)

On http://www.oroklet.hu/ I found what appears to be
a distant cousin -- my gf's great-aunt: Feigelstock
Jakabne Morgenstern Betty.

I have a record of her marrying a man by that name.
Her birth year has her as two years younger than I
would expect -- but with that said it is a good match.
I have no idea what happened to her after she married
Jakab in Nemetujvar.

What is the chance that this really is my relative?
I'd like opinions.

Denise Pfalzer
Tampa, Florida, USA



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On http://www.oroklet.hu/ I found what appears to be
a distant cousin -- my gf's great-aunt: Feigelstock
Jakabne Morgenstern Betty.

I have a record of her marrying a man by that name.
Her birth year has her as two years younger than I
would expect -- but with that said it is a good match.
I have no idea what happened to her after she married
Jakab in Nemetujvar.

What is the chance that this really is my relative?
I'd like opinions.

Denise Pfalzer
Tampa, Florida, USA



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