AustriaCzech SIG Business
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Sharla Levine <austriaczech@...>
Yes, our Austria-Czech SIG meeting at the upcoming IAJGS conference is
scheduled for 8 AM on Wednesday, August 16. I do hope many of you will be there. However, it is not necessary to be there or to wait until then for some of the information that Vera Finberg asked about. Here is a brief report, which, if necessary, can be discussed in more depth at the meeting. Our SIG was founded at the IAJGS conference in 1999 as a discussion list only. I became the coordinator by default because no one else at that meeting was willing to take the position. Very soon thereafter we added a webpage. Over the years, we have laid the groundwork for several translation and data acquisition/compilation/indexing projects, and now we may well have a new opportunity to index records that are on microfilm with the FHL (Family History Library). Our current "staff" consists of one SIG Coordinator, one Project Coordinator, one webmaster, and two moderators. FINANCES: Over our seven years, we have received contributions, some designated for specific projects, as follows: Czech cemetery database $ 488 Terezin Ghetto list $ 427 GemeindeView $1236 General A-C SIG fund $2210 Our only expenditure has been $20 for a meeting room fee at a previous IAJGS conference. The funds to translate the Gold books are part of the Yizkor Book Project and not part of our SIG funds. PROJECTS: We have always been lacking volunteers and funds to carry out our projects. Most notably, we have not had volunteers step forward to take responsibility for any specific projects. Several people have offered to do bits and pieces of things, but we need volunteers to lead each project. The Project Coordinator is supposed to have an overview, to prioritize, and to handle administrative duties for the various projects. Project Leaders (volunteers in charge of specific projects) should deal with the details of their project, assigning portions to others and following up on them, assembling data as it comes in and preparing it for its end-use, etc. Without volunteers, we cannot move forward with our projects, which are intended to benefit all of us and future researchers. DISCUSSION LIST: To correct Vera's recent comment, we have had at least five different moderators over the years, usually two people sharing duties at any given time. In general, we seek to keep the moderators anonymous, although I will admit that I have at times served as moderator. We currently have two moderators. More would be welcome. WEB PAGE: We have had three different people work on the webpage at various times. We currently have one webmaster, who is a student and thus has only been able to work on the page sporadically. He is eager to surrender the reins and has suggested that job could be broken down into two or three aspects so that it could be shared. REQUESTING NEW VOLUNTEERS: Due to some changes in my personal life and circumstances, I would like to reduce my role in the SIG. Besides, as Vera suggests, some new people in all the SIG positions should give the group some new energy, perspective, and ideas. It would be wonderful to be able to announce and introduce new volunteers at the upcoming meeting. If you would like to volunteer for any position in the SIG, or if you have suggestions of individuals who might be persuaded to take a position, please contact me privately at austriaczech@comcast.net. Sharla Levine Austria-Czech SIG Coordinator Vera Finberg wrote: Conference attendees have already heard that the SIG meeting is scheduled for 8 AM on Wednesday. I hope we can get a report on the status of the SIG, it's treasury (both for maintenance of the Web page and for Research) and how many moderators we have/need as well as co-ordinators. I do want to thank Sharla Levine who has been the co-ordinator and a moderator for the entire time the SIG has existed, first sharing duties with Randy and then alone?? I hope that we can recruit new moderators, and co-ordinators who can revitalize the SIG.
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EDLES Family, et. al.
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peter bakos <pgbakos@...>
I would think >from the information given that your best chance would be to
write to the Hungarian SIG as the places you mention either are or were in Hungary. Peter Bakos presently in Haymarket, Virginia
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech AustriaCzech SIG Business
#austria-czech
Sharla Levine <austriaczech@...>
Yes, our Austria-Czech SIG meeting at the upcoming IAJGS conference is
scheduled for 8 AM on Wednesday, August 16. I do hope many of you will be there. However, it is not necessary to be there or to wait until then for some of the information that Vera Finberg asked about. Here is a brief report, which, if necessary, can be discussed in more depth at the meeting. Our SIG was founded at the IAJGS conference in 1999 as a discussion list only. I became the coordinator by default because no one else at that meeting was willing to take the position. Very soon thereafter we added a webpage. Over the years, we have laid the groundwork for several translation and data acquisition/compilation/indexing projects, and now we may well have a new opportunity to index records that are on microfilm with the FHL (Family History Library). Our current "staff" consists of one SIG Coordinator, one Project Coordinator, one webmaster, and two moderators. FINANCES: Over our seven years, we have received contributions, some designated for specific projects, as follows: Czech cemetery database $ 488 Terezin Ghetto list $ 427 GemeindeView $1236 General A-C SIG fund $2210 Our only expenditure has been $20 for a meeting room fee at a previous IAJGS conference. The funds to translate the Gold books are part of the Yizkor Book Project and not part of our SIG funds. PROJECTS: We have always been lacking volunteers and funds to carry out our projects. Most notably, we have not had volunteers step forward to take responsibility for any specific projects. Several people have offered to do bits and pieces of things, but we need volunteers to lead each project. The Project Coordinator is supposed to have an overview, to prioritize, and to handle administrative duties for the various projects. Project Leaders (volunteers in charge of specific projects) should deal with the details of their project, assigning portions to others and following up on them, assembling data as it comes in and preparing it for its end-use, etc. Without volunteers, we cannot move forward with our projects, which are intended to benefit all of us and future researchers. DISCUSSION LIST: To correct Vera's recent comment, we have had at least five different moderators over the years, usually two people sharing duties at any given time. In general, we seek to keep the moderators anonymous, although I will admit that I have at times served as moderator. We currently have two moderators. More would be welcome. WEB PAGE: We have had three different people work on the webpage at various times. We currently have one webmaster, who is a student and thus has only been able to work on the page sporadically. He is eager to surrender the reins and has suggested that job could be broken down into two or three aspects so that it could be shared. REQUESTING NEW VOLUNTEERS: Due to some changes in my personal life and circumstances, I would like to reduce my role in the SIG. Besides, as Vera suggests, some new people in all the SIG positions should give the group some new energy, perspective, and ideas. It would be wonderful to be able to announce and introduce new volunteers at the upcoming meeting. If you would like to volunteer for any position in the SIG, or if you have suggestions of individuals who might be persuaded to take a position, please contact me privately at austriaczech@comcast.net. Sharla Levine Austria-Czech SIG Coordinator Vera Finberg wrote: Conference attendees have already heard that the SIG meeting is scheduled for 8 AM on Wednesday. I hope we can get a report on the status of the SIG, it's treasury (both for maintenance of the Web page and for Research) and how many moderators we have/need as well as co-ordinators. I do want to thank Sharla Levine who has been the co-ordinator and a moderator for the entire time the SIG has existed, first sharing duties with Randy and then alone?? I hope that we can recruit new moderators, and co-ordinators who can revitalize the SIG.
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech EDLES Family, et. al.
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peter bakos <pgbakos@...>
I would think >from the information given that your best chance would be to
write to the Hungarian SIG as the places you mention either are or were in Hungary. Peter Bakos presently in Haymarket, Virginia
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Re: looking for Sigmound HUTH's Father and Mother
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dnrrita@...
I am looking for Sigmound HUTH Father and Mother
this is the information that I have: Sigmound Huth was born in Prossnitz, Moravia [ It is now called Prostejov in the Czech republic ] born on 25 June 1852 and died on 03 June 1935 in Vienna Austria and his wife was Johanna [ Sara ] Herschel, Huth and she was born 1852 in Vienna Austria and died on 21 Nov 1941 in Vienna Austria [ this information the dates and places may not be accurate especially the places ] Dan Huth Cedarhurst Long Island, New York USA MODERATOR NOTE: Don't forget to check the SIG archives for mention of this name, and also the JewishGen Family Finder to see is anyone else is also researching this name.
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: looking for Sigmound HUTH's Father and Mother
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dnrrita@...
I am looking for Sigmound HUTH Father and Mother
this is the information that I have: Sigmound Huth was born in Prossnitz, Moravia [ It is now called Prostejov in the Czech republic ] born on 25 June 1852 and died on 03 June 1935 in Vienna Austria and his wife was Johanna [ Sara ] Herschel, Huth and she was born 1852 in Vienna Austria and died on 21 Nov 1941 in Vienna Austria [ this information the dates and places may not be accurate especially the places ] Dan Huth Cedarhurst Long Island, New York USA MODERATOR NOTE: Don't forget to check the SIG archives for mention of this name, and also the JewishGen Family Finder to see is anyone else is also researching this name.
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Hungarian word for "niece"
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felicia zieff
Dear friends,
I need to know the Hungarian word for "niece". Please spell it out in Hungarian. Send your reply to my personal e-mail. Thanks much. Felicia P. Zieff Association of Descendants of the Shoah - Illinois, Inc. http://adsillinois.org http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/zloczew/zloczew.html
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hungarian word for "niece"
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felicia zieff
Dear friends,
I need to know the Hungarian word for "niece". Please spell it out in Hungarian. Send your reply to my personal e-mail. Thanks much. Felicia P. Zieff Association of Descendants of the Shoah - Illinois, Inc. http://adsillinois.org http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/zloczew/zloczew.html
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Fake email linked to genealogy research?
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ellie2@...
Dear Genners,
I just recieved an email >from someone claiming to be searching for heirs of a possible family member. This individual must have done some research on genalogy web-sites as that is the only place this name is linked to mine. This particular letter was pretty obvious, but thought I would just alert others on Jewish Gen to the possibility of frauds. Ellen Lee Searching, ANSELL, ZUCKERMAN, SHERMAN, LISS, ANSHELOWITZ
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Fake email linked to genealogy research?
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ellie2@...
Dear Genners,
I just recieved an email >from someone claiming to be searching for heirs of a possible family member. This individual must have done some research on genalogy web-sites as that is the only place this name is linked to mine. This particular letter was pretty obvious, but thought I would just alert others on Jewish Gen to the possibility of frauds. Ellen Lee Searching, ANSELL, ZUCKERMAN, SHERMAN, LISS, ANSHELOWITZ
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Re: Levi/Levy/Caro---Clechchovia????
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Celia Male <celiamale@...>
Janette Levey wrote: <I posted recently about searching for my roots
on my father's side of the family. I was able to find a lot in the British censuses. My great grandparents were born in England. On my grgrandmother's line it looks like I may be able to trace back to my grtgrtgrtgrtgrandmother in England in the 1780's. I'll post the details in a separate post soon. On my grtgrandfather's side, I found that his mother and her parents (my grtgrtgrandmother and my grtgrtgrtgrandparents) had the name CARO and are listed in one census as having been born in Clechchovia and another census says Deu Poland. I either find nothing on Shtetlfinder or over 1000 possible matches if I don't narrow it to Poland. Since I see a reference to Poland in one census, I'm assuming they were >from Poland. Anyone have any ideas or info as to where Clechchovia could be or what "Deu,> Poland" means?>> I was delighted to be able to help Janette trace her roots last week: Janette... tells us she is new to this - so here are a few hints and possible leads miraculously taking Janette all the way back to her gtgtgtgt-grandmother Lydia BARNETT born Whitechapel, London in 1781. In this one posting, there was not enough space to discuss the CARO family who can be found in Birmingham, England in censuses going back to 1871. If you check all English CARO families [1851 onwards] , the place names Preussen, Posen, Deu, Prussia, Poland, Russia keep appearing, plus a few specific place names inc Berlin . Janette's CARO family appears first in the census in 1881 in Birmingham - here they are >from Prussia. There were Birmingham CAROs in 1871 too >from Russia, Prussia and the West of England. In the 1881 census, Myer CARO and family are >from *Clechchovia* and you can see Samuel LEVY {born Warsaw] living with the CARO family as a son-in-law. He was the father of Jack LEVEY who married Lydia WOOLF in 1903 and where I started my trail last week. My guess is that the place Janette's CARO family came >from Chelkowski (Posen) see: http://www.polishroots.org/genpoland/pos.htm http://home.foni.net/~adelsforschung/million.htm Celia Male [U.K.]
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Levi/Levy/Caro---Clechchovia????
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Celia Male <celiamale@...>
Janette Levey wrote: <I posted recently about searching for my roots
on my father's side of the family. I was able to find a lot in the British censuses. My great grandparents were born in England. On my grgrandmother's line it looks like I may be able to trace back to my grtgrtgrtgrtgrandmother in England in the 1780's. I'll post the details in a separate post soon. On my grtgrandfather's side, I found that his mother and her parents (my grtgrtgrandmother and my grtgrtgrtgrandparents) had the name CARO and are listed in one census as having been born in Clechchovia and another census says Deu Poland. I either find nothing on Shtetlfinder or over 1000 possible matches if I don't narrow it to Poland. Since I see a reference to Poland in one census, I'm assuming they were >from Poland. Anyone have any ideas or info as to where Clechchovia could be or what "Deu,> Poland" means?>> I was delighted to be able to help Janette trace her roots last week: Janette... tells us she is new to this - so here are a few hints and possible leads miraculously taking Janette all the way back to her gtgtgtgt-grandmother Lydia BARNETT born Whitechapel, London in 1781. In this one posting, there was not enough space to discuss the CARO family who can be found in Birmingham, England in censuses going back to 1871. If you check all English CARO families [1851 onwards] , the place names Preussen, Posen, Deu, Prussia, Poland, Russia keep appearing, plus a few specific place names inc Berlin . Janette's CARO family appears first in the census in 1881 in Birmingham - here they are >from Prussia. There were Birmingham CAROs in 1871 too >from Russia, Prussia and the West of England. In the 1881 census, Myer CARO and family are >from *Clechchovia* and you can see Samuel LEVY {born Warsaw] living with the CARO family as a son-in-law. He was the father of Jack LEVEY who married Lydia WOOLF in 1903 and where I started my trail last week. My guess is that the place Janette's CARO family came >from Chelkowski (Posen) see: http://www.polishroots.org/genpoland/pos.htm http://home.foni.net/~adelsforschung/million.htm Celia Male [U.K.]
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Re: Caro---Clechchovia
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Roger Lustig <trovato@...>
A few points here:
1) What kind of censuses were these? Specifically, what language would "Deu, Poland" be in? 2) Silesia is an area that Prussia annexed >from the Holy Roman Empire. This is what the Silesian Wars, culminating in the Seven Years War, were about. Within the HRE, it was considered part of the Kingdom of Bohemia, as it had been before Bohemia was absorbed in the 16thC. Bohemia had ruled Silesia since the 14thC, before which time it had been more or less associated with, though not entirely part of, Piast Poland. In short, the relationship between Silesia and Poland has been a sore point since the Mongols left, but Frederick the Great didn't take it away >from the Poles; he took it >from Maria Theresia. 2a) Parts of Silesia remained Bohemian/Austrian: the southern and southeastern border parts. (Teschen, Troppau.) 2b) Some of Upper Silesia was ceded to Poland in 1922 under the League of Nations partition; another little bit (in 1919) to Czechoslovakia. 2c) For the truly finicky, Goerlitz and its surroundings just west of the Oder (Odra) were Silesian, and have remained German. 3) All this has nothing to do with Posen, which isn't in Silesia, but rather the capital of the province of the same name. It adjoins Silesia to the northeast. 4) Clechchovia: could this be Czieschowa (German)/Ciechowa (Polish)? This is one of the older Jewish communities in Upper Silesia. It had a wooden synagogue and a cemetery--one of four Jewish village cemeteries in all of Silesia. Ciechowa is in the eastern part of Kreis (county) Lublinitz (now Lubliniec)--a part that was ceded to Poland in 1922. 5) There were indeed quite a few CAROs in Glogau in 1812 (citizenship time). Also quite a few in Breslau, many of whom may have had roots in Glogau. Only one other one in Silesia, though: in Brieg. None anywhere near Czieschowa, alas. But that doesn't rule out a CARO presence there earlier or later. 6) Perhaps when Nick Landau gets his hands on a copy of that handbook of rabbis he can look up the name and the place. It's a useful book, albeit not the most careful in its use of sources. Don't have it handy, alas. 7) Menk probably means the province of Posen. Luft's book on the 1836 register has 27 CARO and 2 KARO families: 4 each in Lissa, Samoczyn and Zirke, 3 each in Chodziesen, Posen, and Rawicz, and others in other towns. Only one rabbi: in Schrimm. (One cantor in Samoczyn, a teacher in Posen.) Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA MBernet@aol.com wrote: Jslevey@aol.com writes:[snip]
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Caro---Clechchovia
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Roger Lustig <trovato@...>
A few points here:
1) What kind of censuses were these? Specifically, what language would "Deu, Poland" be in? 2) Silesia is an area that Prussia annexed >from the Holy Roman Empire. This is what the Silesian Wars, culminating in the Seven Years War, were about. Within the HRE, it was considered part of the Kingdom of Bohemia, as it had been before Bohemia was absorbed in the 16thC. Bohemia had ruled Silesia since the 14thC, before which time it had been more or less associated with, though not entirely part of, Piast Poland. In short, the relationship between Silesia and Poland has been a sore point since the Mongols left, but Frederick the Great didn't take it away >from the Poles; he took it >from Maria Theresia. 2a) Parts of Silesia remained Bohemian/Austrian: the southern and southeastern border parts. (Teschen, Troppau.) 2b) Some of Upper Silesia was ceded to Poland in 1922 under the League of Nations partition; another little bit (in 1919) to Czechoslovakia. 2c) For the truly finicky, Goerlitz and its surroundings just west of the Oder (Odra) were Silesian, and have remained German. 3) All this has nothing to do with Posen, which isn't in Silesia, but rather the capital of the province of the same name. It adjoins Silesia to the northeast. 4) Clechchovia: could this be Czieschowa (German)/Ciechowa (Polish)? This is one of the older Jewish communities in Upper Silesia. It had a wooden synagogue and a cemetery--one of four Jewish village cemeteries in all of Silesia. Ciechowa is in the eastern part of Kreis (county) Lublinitz (now Lubliniec)--a part that was ceded to Poland in 1922. 5) There were indeed quite a few CAROs in Glogau in 1812 (citizenship time). Also quite a few in Breslau, many of whom may have had roots in Glogau. Only one other one in Silesia, though: in Brieg. None anywhere near Czieschowa, alas. But that doesn't rule out a CARO presence there earlier or later. 6) Perhaps when Nick Landau gets his hands on a copy of that handbook of rabbis he can look up the name and the place. It's a useful book, albeit not the most careful in its use of sources. Don't have it handy, alas. 7) Menk probably means the province of Posen. Luft's book on the 1836 register has 27 CARO and 2 KARO families: 4 each in Lissa, Samoczyn and Zirke, 3 each in Chodziesen, Posen, and Rawicz, and others in other towns. Only one rabbi: in Schrimm. (One cantor in Samoczyn, a teacher in Posen.) Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA MBernet@aol.com wrote: Jslevey@aol.com writes:[snip]
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The Rumanov Family
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Volf Rumanov <baryosi@...>
Hello,
I am sarching my roots in Minsk (my great grandfather - Moishe (Movsha) Yankev RUMANOV emigrated to there >from poland). I searched in JewishGen and there I Discovered his fathe's name (Leibe). I will be glad if you will help with my search and tell me about databases or something else where I could find a record of them. Here is my family tree: http://www.genebase.com/user/volf572?module=family&view=tree Thank You. Volf.
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The Rumanov Family
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Volf Rumanov <baryosi@...>
Hello,
I am sarching my roots in Minsk (my great grandfather - Moishe (Movsha) Yankev RUMANOV emigrated to there >from poland). I searched in JewishGen and there I Discovered his fathe's name (Leibe). I will be glad if you will help with my search and tell me about databases or something else where I could find a record of them. Here is my family tree: http://www.genebase.com/user/volf572?module=family&view=tree Thank You. Volf.
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Re: Jgene wiki
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nicky carklin <nixxyc@...>
With regard to the Jgene Wiki, if anyone needs help or wants to make
comments, could they please email me at admin@jgene.org. Unfortunately I've had a few problems with my Gmail address, and some emails have been lost before I was able to read them. If anyone sent me email regarding the wiki in the past few days and I never replied, could you please resend it to the address just stated. Many thanks Nicky Carklin, London
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jgene wiki
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nicky carklin <nixxyc@...>
With regard to the Jgene Wiki, if anyone needs help or wants to make
comments, could they please email me at admin@jgene.org. Unfortunately I've had a few problems with my Gmail address, and some emails have been lost before I was able to read them. If anyone sent me email regarding the wiki in the past few days and I never replied, could you please resend it to the address just stated. Many thanks Nicky Carklin, London
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Re: Caro---Clechchovia
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Alexander Sharon
<MBernet@aol.com> wrote
Just to supplement Michael Bernet reply: Place is known as Kleszczewo [kleh shsheh voh] at 5220 1711, 10 miles ESE from the City of Poznan (Posen).Also known as Kleschkau and earlier, in 14 century as Liebenwalde. There is a bit of information about the existence of inn in this is 14 century (usually it was a Jewish business) which was paying taxes to the local monastery. There is also a monograph published in 1904 in Bromberg by Aaron Heppner (Rabbi in Koschmin) and Izaak Herzberg >from Bromberg on Posen Jewry: "Aus Vergangenheit und Gegenwart der Juden und der jued. Gemeinden in den Posener Landen; nach gedruckten und ungedruckten Quellen". http://www.wbc.poznan.pl/dlibra/docmetadata?id=14995&from=globalsearch&dirids=1 Perhaps more information on Jewish Kleszczewo can be located in this publication. I do agree with Michael that "Deu" is an abbreviation of Deutsche - in this case Prussian Poland Alexander Sharon Calgary, Ab
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Caro---Clechchovia
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Alexander Sharon
<MBernet@aol.com> wrote
Just to supplement Michael Bernet reply: Place is known as Kleszczewo [kleh shsheh voh] at 5220 1711, 10 miles ESE from the City of Poznan (Posen).Also known as Kleschkau and earlier, in 14 century as Liebenwalde. There is a bit of information about the existence of inn in this is 14 century (usually it was a Jewish business) which was paying taxes to the local monastery. There is also a monograph published in 1904 in Bromberg by Aaron Heppner (Rabbi in Koschmin) and Izaak Herzberg >from Bromberg on Posen Jewry: "Aus Vergangenheit und Gegenwart der Juden und der jued. Gemeinden in den Posener Landen; nach gedruckten und ungedruckten Quellen". http://www.wbc.poznan.pl/dlibra/docmetadata?id=14995&from=globalsearch&dirids=1 Perhaps more information on Jewish Kleszczewo can be located in this publication. I do agree with Michael that "Deu" is an abbreviation of Deutsche - in this case Prussian Poland Alexander Sharon Calgary, Ab
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