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Re: Research in St. Louis, MO #general

Martin Fischer
 

Ilya Zeldes wrote:

May someone suggest how to find a grave (end ob 19 century) in St. Louis,
Missouri?
As part of your research on your ancestors in St. Louis, you might want to
use the Missouri Secretary of State's online databases, such as the ones on
birth and death records. Keep in mind that St. Louis city is separate >from
St. Louis county, so, when looking for your relatives in St. Louis, you
should check both of those locations. The secretary of state has links to
these databases at:

http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/ordb.asp

If any of your relatives died while in St. Louis, you should check the
cemetery and funeral home databases of the Jewish Special Interest Group of
the St. Louis Genealogical Society. Links to those databases are at:

http://www.stlgs.org/SIGJewish.htm

If any of your relatives might have been buried at the New Mt. Sinai
Cemetery in Affton, Mo., a St. Louis suburb, you should check their burial
index (pdf files) at:

http://www.newmtsinaicemetery.org/page6.html

Regards,

Martin Fischer
Oak Park, Illinois, USA

---
The Fischer and Levin family history Web site is at:
http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Research in St. Louis, MO #general

Martin Fischer
 

Ilya Zeldes wrote:

May someone suggest how to find a grave (end ob 19 century) in St. Louis,
Missouri?
As part of your research on your ancestors in St. Louis, you might want to
use the Missouri Secretary of State's online databases, such as the ones on
birth and death records. Keep in mind that St. Louis city is separate >from
St. Louis county, so, when looking for your relatives in St. Louis, you
should check both of those locations. The secretary of state has links to
these databases at:

http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/ordb.asp

If any of your relatives died while in St. Louis, you should check the
cemetery and funeral home databases of the Jewish Special Interest Group of
the St. Louis Genealogical Society. Links to those databases are at:

http://www.stlgs.org/SIGJewish.htm

If any of your relatives might have been buried at the New Mt. Sinai
Cemetery in Affton, Mo., a St. Louis suburb, you should check their burial
index (pdf files) at:

http://www.newmtsinaicemetery.org/page6.html

Regards,

Martin Fischer
Oak Park, Illinois, USA

---
The Fischer and Levin family history Web site is at:
http://mefischer1.home.comcast.net/


London names: HOLRIE, ABRAHAM, BRAHAM, POULTON/POULTOW, POMERANTZ, BROOKS, STERN #general

Bubby <yeruchem18@...>
 

Today, I received the death certificate, Hannah HOLRIE, who died at the age
of 63, in 1896. The address of Hannah and her widower, Harris HOLRIE, at
the time was 37 Yalford Street, Mile End.

I also received the marriage certificates of two of their daughters:

In 1889, Anna HOLRIE, age 21, spinster, tailoress, married Lewis ABRAHAMS,
age 23, bachelor, master tailor. His father's name was Joseph ABRAHAMS, also
a tailor. The wedding took place in the "Sandys Row Synagogue" (that first
word may be wrong; it's hard to read) and was witnessed by (can't read the
first name) STERN and Aaron BROOKS. (In the 1890 and 1900 censuses, Lewis
and Anna are listed with the surname of BRAHAM)

In 1890, John POULTOW or POULTON, a bachelor marine engineer aged 25 and son
of Alfred POULTOW or POULTON, who was a shipwright, married Minnie HOLRIE, a
25 year old spinster. This couple was married in the Register Office.

It is interesting to me that both brides and grooms shared the same
residence at the time of Marriage, My guess is that the reason for this is
that they had a religious marriage that was later registered in the General
Register Office when they were already living together.

Another curiosity, since I am unfamiliar with British naming customs. Is
POULTOW or POULTON a Jewish surname in Britain? I can ask the same about my
relative's name, because I have absolutely no idea where the name HOLRIE
came >from as well. I recently found out that Harris is the common name given
to many people who carried the Hebrew name Mordechai.

Comments and opinions are welcome!
Fraida Cohen
New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen London names: HOLRIE, ABRAHAM, BRAHAM, POULTON/POULTOW, POMERANTZ, BROOKS, STERN #general

Bubby <yeruchem18@...>
 

Today, I received the death certificate, Hannah HOLRIE, who died at the age
of 63, in 1896. The address of Hannah and her widower, Harris HOLRIE, at
the time was 37 Yalford Street, Mile End.

I also received the marriage certificates of two of their daughters:

In 1889, Anna HOLRIE, age 21, spinster, tailoress, married Lewis ABRAHAMS,
age 23, bachelor, master tailor. His father's name was Joseph ABRAHAMS, also
a tailor. The wedding took place in the "Sandys Row Synagogue" (that first
word may be wrong; it's hard to read) and was witnessed by (can't read the
first name) STERN and Aaron BROOKS. (In the 1890 and 1900 censuses, Lewis
and Anna are listed with the surname of BRAHAM)

In 1890, John POULTOW or POULTON, a bachelor marine engineer aged 25 and son
of Alfred POULTOW or POULTON, who was a shipwright, married Minnie HOLRIE, a
25 year old spinster. This couple was married in the Register Office.

It is interesting to me that both brides and grooms shared the same
residence at the time of Marriage, My guess is that the reason for this is
that they had a religious marriage that was later registered in the General
Register Office when they were already living together.

Another curiosity, since I am unfamiliar with British naming customs. Is
POULTOW or POULTON a Jewish surname in Britain? I can ask the same about my
relative's name, because I have absolutely no idea where the name HOLRIE
came >from as well. I recently found out that Harris is the common name given
to many people who carried the Hebrew name Mordechai.

Comments and opinions are welcome!
Fraida Cohen
New York


3000 Lithuanian Vital Records to JewishGen today #general

roetenberg aaron <aaronr@...>
 

The JewishGen Lithuanian vital records translation project
has added over 3000 records today and is searchable on the
JewishGen data base at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Lithuania/.
The record total is over 15,000 vital records.
Records just added are >from Panevezys, Rokiskis, Ariogala,
Joniskelis, Birzai. The records contain other towns. The
town is where the record was registered. Records contain
towns such as Kaunas, Kelme, Ukmerge and many more towns.
We just received more Linkuva and Birzai records which
will be up after the Genealogy conference in NY. We have
more birth, marriage and death records currently being
translated at the LVIA.
We need additional funding to translate records. Please
consider a donation at
< http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=17 >
and select the Lithuanian Jewish vital records box.
Thanks, Aaron Roetenberg – project co-chair - aaronr@suscom.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 3000 Lithuanian Vital Records to JewishGen today #general

roetenberg aaron <aaronr@...>
 

The JewishGen Lithuanian vital records translation project
has added over 3000 records today and is searchable on the
JewishGen data base at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Lithuania/.
The record total is over 15,000 vital records.
Records just added are >from Panevezys, Rokiskis, Ariogala,
Joniskelis, Birzai. The records contain other towns. The
town is where the record was registered. Records contain
towns such as Kaunas, Kelme, Ukmerge and many more towns.
We just received more Linkuva and Birzai records which
will be up after the Genealogy conference in NY. We have
more birth, marriage and death records currently being
translated at the LVIA.
We need additional funding to translate records. Please
consider a donation at
< http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=17 >
and select the Lithuanian Jewish vital records box.
Thanks, Aaron Roetenberg – project co-chair - aaronr@suscom.net


Courland/Kurland Landmanschaftn plots in NYC area #general

A. E. Jordan
 

For any Courlanders/Kurlanders who want to visit a family grave in
New York, I have an incomplete but very valuable index of the
Courlander/Kurlander Landmanshaftn society plots in the New York
area. Yes this data is destine for JOWBR just as soon as we can get it
completed, but in the meantime I am offering look ups in what we
have and also hoping for help to get this completed and into JOWBR.

There are 28 Courlander society plots and over the last few years I
have visited all of them and photographed and catalogued 5600 graves.

If you want I will make this offer to look in the database and let you
know if I captured data/ locations information on a specific grave for
you. What I would be able to tell you is in what cemetery it is located
as well as which plot. I may or may not have a photograph of the stone,
but if you want to take advantage of the cemetery tours offered during
the upcoming New York Conference this would at least tell you where
to find the person.

If you want me to check the database please send me an email with the
complete name and hopefully the date of death or something that will
distinguish the person. Generally I have date of death/burial and the
names. Beyond that it depends on what records the cemetery released
or what was on the stone.

If there are any Courlanders coming to or in New York who want to
do a good deed, this data still needs to be checked, proofed and in
many cases the stones need to be translated >from Hebrew to English
to complete the database and submit it to JOWBR. If you are going to
a cemetery maybe you want to take along the data I have and proof
against one of the plots? Generally each Society is about 200-300
graves per plot. Let me know as it would be a great service to your
fellow Courlanders.

Also I will be attending some parts of the NY Conference and will have
my data there.

See you in New York Courlanders!

Allan Jordan
aejordan@aol.com

PS -- If you have no idea if your family member is buried in New
York, if they were a Courlander or not, or alike I can not help you
with this data. This is a very specific database of just the Courlander
society plots in the greater New York area. About 5,600 graves. If
you are looking for general New York cemetery or grave information
please visit the JewishGen web site and its wonderful databases or
the JGSNY.ORG site for their great data. Sorry I can only help with this
specific Courlander data.

PPS -- If you do not know what a Courlander is this is likely not a
database for you. Courlanders were generally of German ancestry
and settled in what is today northern Latvia. Courland was a region
inside of modern day Latvia.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Courland/Kurland Landmanschaftn plots in NYC area #general

A. E. Jordan
 

For any Courlanders/Kurlanders who want to visit a family grave in
New York, I have an incomplete but very valuable index of the
Courlander/Kurlander Landmanshaftn society plots in the New York
area. Yes this data is destine for JOWBR just as soon as we can get it
completed, but in the meantime I am offering look ups in what we
have and also hoping for help to get this completed and into JOWBR.

There are 28 Courlander society plots and over the last few years I
have visited all of them and photographed and catalogued 5600 graves.

If you want I will make this offer to look in the database and let you
know if I captured data/ locations information on a specific grave for
you. What I would be able to tell you is in what cemetery it is located
as well as which plot. I may or may not have a photograph of the stone,
but if you want to take advantage of the cemetery tours offered during
the upcoming New York Conference this would at least tell you where
to find the person.

If you want me to check the database please send me an email with the
complete name and hopefully the date of death or something that will
distinguish the person. Generally I have date of death/burial and the
names. Beyond that it depends on what records the cemetery released
or what was on the stone.

If there are any Courlanders coming to or in New York who want to
do a good deed, this data still needs to be checked, proofed and in
many cases the stones need to be translated >from Hebrew to English
to complete the database and submit it to JOWBR. If you are going to
a cemetery maybe you want to take along the data I have and proof
against one of the plots? Generally each Society is about 200-300
graves per plot. Let me know as it would be a great service to your
fellow Courlanders.

Also I will be attending some parts of the NY Conference and will have
my data there.

See you in New York Courlanders!

Allan Jordan
aejordan@aol.com

PS -- If you have no idea if your family member is buried in New
York, if they were a Courlander or not, or alike I can not help you
with this data. This is a very specific database of just the Courlander
society plots in the greater New York area. About 5,600 graves. If
you are looking for general New York cemetery or grave information
please visit the JewishGen web site and its wonderful databases or
the JGSNY.ORG site for their great data. Sorry I can only help with this
specific Courlander data.

PPS -- If you do not know what a Courlander is this is likely not a
database for you. Courlanders were generally of German ancestry
and settled in what is today northern Latvia. Courland was a region
inside of modern day Latvia.


Foundation Benevolent Soc.-- Mt. Hebron Cem, NY #general

joyweave
 

Is anyone familiar with a burial society called Foundation Benevolent Soc.?
I've been told that a man with the name of my long lost uncle, Abraham FEINBERG,
was buried in their plot at Mt. Hebron Cemetery in NY in 1957.

I tried Googling this society, but got no hits.

I'm wondering if this was a charitable organization that may have buried people
who had little or no funds. (I suspect this was the case for this uncle).

Also, if anyone is going to Mt. Hebron, perhaps you'd be willing to take a
picture of the stone (if it reads "Abram ben Schmuel" and the dob is in the
1885-90 range -- otherwise it's not him, so no picture would be needed).

(I will be heading for working the Registration Desk at the IAJGS Conference
when the Mt. Hebron trip takes place this Sunday, so can't go myself just now).

Please respond privately,

Joy Weaver
Islip, NY USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Foundation Benevolent Soc.-- Mt. Hebron Cem, NY #general

joyweave
 

Is anyone familiar with a burial society called Foundation Benevolent Soc.?
I've been told that a man with the name of my long lost uncle, Abraham FEINBERG,
was buried in their plot at Mt. Hebron Cemetery in NY in 1957.

I tried Googling this society, but got no hits.

I'm wondering if this was a charitable organization that may have buried people
who had little or no funds. (I suspect this was the case for this uncle).

Also, if anyone is going to Mt. Hebron, perhaps you'd be willing to take a
picture of the stone (if it reads "Abram ben Schmuel" and the dob is in the
1885-90 range -- otherwise it's not him, so no picture would be needed).

(I will be heading for working the Registration Desk at the IAJGS Conference
when the Mt. Hebron trip takes place this Sunday, so can't go myself just now).

Please respond privately,

Joy Weaver
Islip, NY USA


Re: MEYERSON - Arrival 1906 - Where? #general

Diane Jacobs <thegenie@...>
 

Be sure after you check a manifest page and the passengers are young men,
Women alone and women with children as there is most likely a detained
manifest page listing for them. If you find them on this list, you may
also get a new name and address for the person picking them up usually,
the husband or father. These manifest pages are usually after the
Regular passenger manifests and you just need to scroll through the
Microfilm or EIDB to find them.

Diane Jacobs
Somerset, NJ

"Jan Groshan" wrote

I've hit yet another brick wall and you genners have been so helpful
in the past, I'm hoping you can help yet again. My grandfather,
Abraham MEYERSON, came to the US in May 1904 on the SS Rotterdam. I
have a copy of the manifest and it appears he arrived alone. According
to census documents, my grandmother (Rose Bertha) and, most probably
two children, Gertrude (aka Gussie, aka Gittel) and Meyer (aka Mike)
arrived two years later, in 1906.
Gertrude would have been about 2 years old and Meyer about 3 years
old, RoseBertha would have been about 28. Abraham was living in New
York at the time, so I would guess they arrived in New York as well,
but the Ellis Island database has been no help, nor has the major
genealogy website. Would any of you ingenious genners have any idea
where I can turn next to find how, when and where these three individuals
came to the U.S.?
Hi,

There is an entry in Ellis Island records for Gitel Meyerson, age 9 which
says that she arrives on s/s Campania sailing >from Leverpool on May 4th
1907, arrived NY May 12, 1907. Gitel is identified under No. 29 on the
passsenger's list.

If you follow with the copy of the scanned manifest, you will noticed that
she suppose to arrive in the company of other Meyersons identified under
No's. 23, age 28 (cannot read first name), but age fits Rose Bertha No. 24,
first name not clear, age appears to be 15 or 45 No. 25, Gittel (age 9)
No.26, Benjamin, age 4 No.27, name is not clear, age 14.

Names are not clear and no additional data is provided, as all names have
been crossed out. What could go wrong, I cannot identify, perhaps Meyersons
did not show up at the sailing time, in any event, there are no annotations
listed for the entire family.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: MEYERSON - Arrival 1906 - Where? #general

Diane Jacobs <thegenie@...>
 

Be sure after you check a manifest page and the passengers are young men,
Women alone and women with children as there is most likely a detained
manifest page listing for them. If you find them on this list, you may
also get a new name and address for the person picking them up usually,
the husband or father. These manifest pages are usually after the
Regular passenger manifests and you just need to scroll through the
Microfilm or EIDB to find them.

Diane Jacobs
Somerset, NJ

"Jan Groshan" wrote

I've hit yet another brick wall and you genners have been so helpful
in the past, I'm hoping you can help yet again. My grandfather,
Abraham MEYERSON, came to the US in May 1904 on the SS Rotterdam. I
have a copy of the manifest and it appears he arrived alone. According
to census documents, my grandmother (Rose Bertha) and, most probably
two children, Gertrude (aka Gussie, aka Gittel) and Meyer (aka Mike)
arrived two years later, in 1906.
Gertrude would have been about 2 years old and Meyer about 3 years
old, RoseBertha would have been about 28. Abraham was living in New
York at the time, so I would guess they arrived in New York as well,
but the Ellis Island database has been no help, nor has the major
genealogy website. Would any of you ingenious genners have any idea
where I can turn next to find how, when and where these three individuals
came to the U.S.?
Hi,

There is an entry in Ellis Island records for Gitel Meyerson, age 9 which
says that she arrives on s/s Campania sailing >from Leverpool on May 4th
1907, arrived NY May 12, 1907. Gitel is identified under No. 29 on the
passsenger's list.

If you follow with the copy of the scanned manifest, you will noticed that
she suppose to arrive in the company of other Meyersons identified under
No's. 23, age 28 (cannot read first name), but age fits Rose Bertha No. 24,
first name not clear, age appears to be 15 or 45 No. 25, Gittel (age 9)
No.26, Benjamin, age 4 No.27, name is not clear, age 14.

Names are not clear and no additional data is provided, as all names have
been crossed out. What could go wrong, I cannot identify, perhaps Meyersons
did not show up at the sailing time, in any event, there are no annotations
listed for the entire family.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


Trying to contact Helen Levi Levy re THALHEIMER #germany

N.Landau@...
 

Helen Levi Levy contacted me regarding THALHEIMER.

I tried to respond to her but my email to her bounced.

I will try emailing her again. If she doesn't hear >from me, can she contact
me using possibly another email address. Thank you.

Nick Landau London, UK <N.Landau@btinternet.com>


German SIG #Germany Trying to contact Helen Levi Levy re THALHEIMER #germany

N.Landau@...
 

Helen Levi Levy contacted me regarding THALHEIMER.

I tried to respond to her but my email to her bounced.

I will try emailing her again. If she doesn't hear >from me, can she contact
me using possibly another email address. Thank you.

Nick Landau London, UK <N.Landau@btinternet.com>


JONAS - Mobile, Alabama #usa

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

I have read the following in "Here Am I" - SJ WOOLF's
autobiography published in 1941:

"My grandfather came to this country >from London in
1837 and settled in Mobile, Alabama, with his wife and
two sons Benjamin and Michel Angelo. ... The probable
reason that my father’s family settled in Mobile was
because my grandmother had relatives there whose name
was Jonas. This family was apparently very well-to-do
and, …, when a son was born to my grandparents in that
city, he was named Solomon Israel WOOLF, after an
uncle, who was one of the first Jews in this country
to be elected to Congress ..."

(By 1844, the WOOLF family had settled in New York
City).

Does anyone have any information about this JONAS
family, and, furthermore, can any one identify the
Jewish Congressman whose first names were Solomon Israel?

Adam Yamey, London, UK <adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


Early American SIG #USA JONAS - Mobile, Alabama #usa

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

I have read the following in "Here Am I" - SJ WOOLF's
autobiography published in 1941:

"My grandfather came to this country >from London in
1837 and settled in Mobile, Alabama, with his wife and
two sons Benjamin and Michel Angelo. ... The probable
reason that my father’s family settled in Mobile was
because my grandmother had relatives there whose name
was Jonas. This family was apparently very well-to-do
and, …, when a son was born to my grandparents in that
city, he was named Solomon Israel WOOLF, after an
uncle, who was one of the first Jews in this country
to be elected to Congress ..."

(By 1844, the WOOLF family had settled in New York
City).

Does anyone have any information about this JONAS
family, and, furthermore, can any one identify the
Jewish Congressman whose first names were Solomon Israel?

Adam Yamey, London, UK <adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


LitvakSIG election #lithuania

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

Having been a member of LitvakSig for the past 10 years or so, - and as
the first Kovno Uyezd Coordinator, and the 1997 compiler of the Kovno
Ghetto Cemetery List 1941-1943 manuscript, I feel compelled to add my
thoughts to those of Ann.

I resigned my position in early 2000 as the Kovno Uyezd Coordinator due
to differences of opinion as to how solicitations of LitvakSig financial
donations and files were distributed.

An election of LitvakSig officers is scheduled at the LitvakSig meeting
during the NY Conference.

"Electioneering" letters containing misleading statements regarding non
Board members who have been nominated should have no room in this campaign.

I am not running for an office, but there are excellent nominees who are.

They are experienced, long time members of LitvakSig, willing and able to
bring a breath of fresh air to the operation of LitvakSig.

Please, - if sending messages referring to the election, be honest, be
nice! Be fair and unbiased!

We're all working toward the same purpose - to bring leadership to
LitvakSig which will continue to work with the Lithuanian Archives and
other repositories - availing members of the opportunity to have resource
material to aid in their family search!

Sylvia
Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
President Emerita
JGSPBCI, FL
USA


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania LitvakSIG election #lithuania

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

Having been a member of LitvakSig for the past 10 years or so, - and as
the first Kovno Uyezd Coordinator, and the 1997 compiler of the Kovno
Ghetto Cemetery List 1941-1943 manuscript, I feel compelled to add my
thoughts to those of Ann.

I resigned my position in early 2000 as the Kovno Uyezd Coordinator due
to differences of opinion as to how solicitations of LitvakSig financial
donations and files were distributed.

An election of LitvakSig officers is scheduled at the LitvakSig meeting
during the NY Conference.

"Electioneering" letters containing misleading statements regarding non
Board members who have been nominated should have no room in this campaign.

I am not running for an office, but there are excellent nominees who are.

They are experienced, long time members of LitvakSig, willing and able to
bring a breath of fresh air to the operation of LitvakSig.

Please, - if sending messages referring to the election, be honest, be
nice! Be fair and unbiased!

We're all working toward the same purpose - to bring leadership to
LitvakSig which will continue to work with the Lithuanian Archives and
other repositories - availing members of the opportunity to have resource
material to aid in their family search!

Sylvia
Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
President Emerita
JGSPBCI, FL
USA


Elections - reply to Ann Rabinowitz's message #lithuania

Beryl. B <balden@...>
 

I understand that in a democratic election, names are
put forward for election, and these members are then
either elected or rejected at the appropriate election's
meeting.

In short, I agree with what Ann Rabinowitz has written
and these election rules whether it is Genealogy related
or otherwise, should be adhered to.

Beryl Baleson
Israel.
balden@zahav.net.il


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Elections - reply to Ann Rabinowitz's message #lithuania

Beryl. B <balden@...>
 

I understand that in a democratic election, names are
put forward for election, and these members are then
either elected or rejected at the appropriate election's
meeting.

In short, I agree with what Ann Rabinowitz has written
and these election rules whether it is Genealogy related
or otherwise, should be adhered to.

Beryl Baleson
Israel.
balden@zahav.net.il