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A large number of Holocaust-theme lectures are being presented at the 26th
Annual IAJGS Conference to give attendees the latest and best information
for what many regard as holy work.

* Peter Lande will discuss the new resources available at the U.S.
Holocaust Memorial Museum archives and library. The USHMM's database of 3
million records, usually available only at the museum, will be accessible
for use in the Conference Resource Room.

* James Connelly, of the USHMM Registry of Holocaust Survivors, and Marian
Smith, Senior Historian at US Citizenship and Immigration Services, will
introduce the INS Foreign Address and Occupation Index, a new set of records
recently acquired by the Registry of Holocaust Survivors at the USHMM The
index relates to immigrants who arrived in the United States in the decades
after World War II.

* A searchable database of Jews in the Russian army killed and missing in
action during WWII will also be available in the Resource Room.

* A representative of the Shoah Foundation will be present at the
Conference providing computer access to the videotaped testimonies of
Holocaust survivors.

There will be over three dozen Holocaust-related lectures as well as an
extraordinary program touching on the widest range of interest For more
information about the Conference programs and Conference registration, visit
our website at www.jgsny2006.org.

Gloria Berkenstat Freund
26th Annual IAJGS Conference Program Committee Chair
glory1@RCN.COM


Posted by
Shelley K. Pollero
Immediate Past Coordinator
Gesher Galicia
Severna Park, Maryland
geshergalicia@comcast.net
http://www.jewishgen.org/Galicia/

"Jules Levin" wrote

Alexander Sharon writes:

I am afraid that name Petrograd was not used at all before the outbreak of
the WWI. Peterburg was often used instead of the official Sankt
Peterburg.

Apparently I did not make myself clear.

I believe you did not. You have mention that "My mgrandmother only used
Petrograd in talking to my mother, and she arrived in the US in 1891, at the
age of 15", which was a bit of surprise.

My point was that the *use* of a city name by its inhabitants or some
subset of them may *precede* the official adoption of the name. I did not
doubt that the official adoption of Petrograd for St. Petersburg occurred
in 1914.

Thank you for clarification

Perhaps Alexander Sharon was unaware that Petrograd was well-known and in
use earlier than 1914. I quote >from Alexander Pushkin's The Bronze
Horseman (1831): "Over dim Petrograd November breathed with autumn
chill".

Alexander Sharon is perfectly aware of the Russophile Aleksandr Pushkin
practices, didn't he renamed Constaninopol to Tsargard?

(The original Russian is readily available on line.) It is true that
"Piter" was used colloquially by the lowest classes, but a reading of 19th
C. literature will find many other examples of Petrograd.

BTW, Miednyy Vsadnik (The Bronze Horesman) was published in 1833 not 1831.
In 1831 Pushkin was preocupied with Russians crushing Poland's National
November revolt

Jules Levin

Alexander Sharon

MODERATOR NOTE: Please continue privately unless your response is *directly*
related to genealogy.

This email is addressed primarily to members of the KRG and to anyone
wishing to receive emails >from me.

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having your current email addresses. Please provide current
addresses. Reminder to all, please provide me current email addresses
when changes are made to assure you continue receiving my emails.

To those who use Spam/Bulk Mail Blockers or whose ISP uses SPAM/Bulk
Mail blockers, please take steps to assure that my emails will get to
you. Often having my email address in your email Address Book will
solve the problem. You must use my email address of
alanboy@starpower.net, because that is the one I use for sending
emails. KRG member SHEFFTZ's ISP is currently blocking my emails as a
"bulk mailer".
Please take steps to allow my emails to get to you.

Alan Weiser, Coordinator
Kolomea Research Group & Web Site
alanboy@starpower.net
Silver Spring, MD USA

A large number of Holocaust-theme lectures are being presented at the 26th
Annual IAJGS Conference to give attendees the latest and best information
for what many regard as holy work.

* Peter Lande will discuss the new resources available at the U.S.
Holocaust Memorial Museum archives and library. The USHMM's database of 3
million records, usually available only at the museum, will be accessible
for use in the Conference Resource Room.

* James Connelly, of the USHMM Registry of Holocaust Survivors, and Marian
Smith, Senior Historian at US Citizenship and Immigration Services, will
introduce the INS Foreign Address and Occupation Index, a new set of records
recently acquired by the Registry of Holocaust Survivors at the USHMM The
index relates to immigrants who arrived in the United States in the decades
after World War II.

* A searchable database of Jews in the Russian army killed and missing in
action during WWII will also be available in the Resource Room.

* A representative of the Shoah Foundation will be present at the
Conference providing computer access to the videotaped testimonies of
Holocaust survivors.

There will be over three dozen Holocaust-related lectures as well as an
extraordinary program touching on the widest range of interest For more
information about the Conference programs and Conference registration, visit
our website at www.jgsny2006.org.

Gloria Berkenstat Freund
26th Annual IAJGS Conference Program Committee Chair
glory1@RCN.COM


Posted by
Shelley K. Pollero
Immediate Past Coordinator
Gesher Galicia
Severna Park, Maryland
geshergalicia@comcast.net
http://www.jewishgen.org/Galicia/

"Jules Levin" wrote

Alexander Sharon writes:

I am afraid that name Petrograd was not used at all before the outbreak of
the WWI. Peterburg was often used instead of the official Sankt
Peterburg.

Apparently I did not make myself clear.

I believe you did not. You have mention that "My mgrandmother only used
Petrograd in talking to my mother, and she arrived in the US in 1891, at the
age of 15", which was a bit of surprise.

My point was that the *use* of a city name by its inhabitants or some
subset of them may *precede* the official adoption of the name. I did not
doubt that the official adoption of Petrograd for St. Petersburg occurred
in 1914.

Thank you for clarification

Perhaps Alexander Sharon was unaware that Petrograd was well-known and in
use earlier than 1914. I quote >from Alexander Pushkin's The Bronze
Horseman (1831): "Over dim Petrograd November breathed with autumn
chill".

Alexander Sharon is perfectly aware of the Russophile Aleksandr Pushkin
practices, didn't he renamed Constaninopol to Tsargard?

(The original Russian is readily available on line.) It is true that
"Piter" was used colloquially by the lowest classes, but a reading of 19th
C. literature will find many other examples of Petrograd.

BTW, Miednyy Vsadnik (The Bronze Horesman) was published in 1833 not 1831.
In 1831 Pushkin was preocupied with Russians crushing Poland's National
November revolt

Jules Levin

Alexander Sharon

MODERATOR NOTE: Please continue privately unless your response is *directly*
related to genealogy.

I have visited the grave of my husbands grandmother at Mt Hebron Cemetery and
was thrilled to find the grave stone Mire (Miriam) USCIER married Mendel
GLATZER but she kept her maiden name.. Therefore the Stone was engraved as Mire
Uscier. There wasn't anything evident that Rachelle Glatzer her daughter was
buried there. I would greatly appreciate if anyone recognizes Rachelle born in
Buczacz (Buchach) in the Ukraine 1897 came to the US with Mire her mother in
1912 . They settled in the lower part of New York with a family SONNENKLAR and
when she married I know she lived in the Bronx,. Please contact me as follows
With much appreciation,
Jewel Glatzer jelorraine@aol.com

I have visited the grave of my husbands grandmother at Mt Hebron Cemetery and
was thrilled to find the grave stone Mire (Miriam) USCIER married Mendel
GLATZER but she kept her maiden name.. Therefore the Stone was engraved as Mire
Uscier. There wasn't anything evident that Rachelle Glatzer her daughter was
buried there. I would greatly appreciate if anyone recognizes Rachelle born in
Buczacz (Buchach) in the Ukraine 1897 came to the US with Mire her mother in
1912 . They settled in the lower part of New York with a family SONNENKLAR and
when she married I know she lived in the Bronx,. Please contact me as follows
With much appreciation,
Jewel Glatzer jelorraine@aol.com

A question was asked here recently about Mondex of Toronto, an asset tracing
service.

I googled "Mondex Toronto" and found a very professional site. The company
says, inter alia, that it is very skilled in genealogical research. I assume
such service won't be cheap for the sort of questions most of us want to see
resolved, but or those skilled in genealogical research, the company may
possibly offer an opportunity for lucrative free-lance work.

A good site is not in itself, of course, a satisfactory measure of
reliability, and anyone thinking of risking money based on an email >from an
unknown source, should carefully investigate bona fides by asking for
references >from chambers of commerce, business/credit evaluators, BBBs,
departments of cosnumer affairs, etc.

Michael Bernet, New York

MODERATOR NOTE: This response is being posted because it suggests ways of
approaching such services. It is not an evaluation of this service. We
cannot post evaluations of services, whether positive or negative.

A question was asked here recently about Mondex of Toronto, an asset tracing
service.

I googled "Mondex Toronto" and found a very professional site. The company
says, inter alia, that it is very skilled in genealogical research. I assume
such service won't be cheap for the sort of questions most of us want to see
resolved, but or those skilled in genealogical research, the company may
possibly offer an opportunity for lucrative free-lance work.

A good site is not in itself, of course, a satisfactory measure of
reliability, and anyone thinking of risking money based on an email >from an
unknown source, should carefully investigate bona fides by asking for
references >from chambers of commerce, business/credit evaluators, BBBs,
departments of cosnumer affairs, etc.

Michael Bernet, New York

MODERATOR NOTE: This response is being posted because it suggests ways of
approaching such services. It is not an evaluation of this service. We
cannot post evaluations of services, whether positive or negative.

I'd like to chime in on Mark Shofron's query:

<<In 1906 my family immigrated to the US >from Pereyaslav, Ukraine (about 100
miles SE of Kiev.) They boarded a ship to the US in Libau, Latvia. They
lived a relatively short distance to the Black Sea. Why would they travel
all the way to Latvia to embark for America?>>

I recently discovered that my Hungarian grandmother (and family) also
emigrated through Libau to America. I say "through" because it is clear
that they traveled >from northeastern Hungary (Szabolcs County), very close
to the Russian (today, Ukrainian) border, to Libau in Latvia, then on to
England, and sailed >from Liverpool to the United States.

They could have gone through Budapest, or traveled to German or Dutch ports,
but instead chose Libau. I discovered an old railway map which showed a
train line >from that part of Hungary which went directly to Cracow, and,
after that, perhaps continued north, but I suspect that there were steamship
line ticket brokers who encouraged many in Hungary, and, perhaps, Ukraine,
to take this route.

Because Libau was in Corland, part of Russia, it's possible that Mark's
relatives chose to leave >from there because they held Russian passports,
making the entire process simpler--versus departing >from ports in other
countries. Insights into this port are offered in the JewishGen article by
Deborah Glassman at:

www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/lyakhovichi/European%20Ports.htm

where she writes:

<<Many more women than men exited this way because men had to show proof of
discharge >from military service and sometimes also >from reserve status
before they could qualify for a passport. The passport should have been
issued in their home town but been recorded by the Libau police before
allowing boarding. Around 25,000 Jews exited via this port in the year 1904
alone. Use an exit >from this port as a strong indication that your ancestor
was traveling on valid Russian papers!
Russian-America Line, after WWI renamed Baltic-America Line. Founded in 1900
by a company headquartered in Copenhagen, the East Asiatic Company. In 1906,
its mission to run services >from Russia and Asia was cancelled after the
Russo-Japanese War of 1905 and it was given the Libau-NYC run in 1906.>>

At the IAJGS conference in New York, Professor Nick Evans will be giving a
talk which touches on the port of Libau in his session: "Jewish
Transmigration Through Britain, 1836-1924."

In an article he wrote for the "Moving Here" UK website at:

www.movinghere.org.uk/galleries/ histories/jewish/journeys/thames1.htm

-he also explains how the opening of the railway line between Kovno (today,
Kaunas, Lithuania) made emigration easier for Jews in the most northerly
parts of the Pale of Settlement, but it is clear that train routing
contributed to emigration choices.

There's also an interesting article available online which mentions
migration through Libau at:

"Trains, Shelters and Ships" at:

www.le.ac.uk/hi/centres/burton/pubs/pdf/trains.pdf

If any other genners have information, research, or theories about why
sailing >from or via Libau was chosen, please let us know!

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com

I'd like to chime in on Mark Shofron's query:

<<In 1906 my family immigrated to the US >from Pereyaslav, Ukraine (about 100
miles SE of Kiev.) They boarded a ship to the US in Libau, Latvia. They
lived a relatively short distance to the Black Sea. Why would they travel
all the way to Latvia to embark for America?>>

I recently discovered that my Hungarian grandmother (and family) also
emigrated through Libau to America. I say "through" because it is clear
that they traveled >from northeastern Hungary (Szabolcs County), very close
to the Russian (today, Ukrainian) border, to Libau in Latvia, then on to
England, and sailed >from Liverpool to the United States.

They could have gone through Budapest, or traveled to German or Dutch ports,
but instead chose Libau. I discovered an old railway map which showed a
train line >from that part of Hungary which went directly to Cracow, and,
after that, perhaps continued north, but I suspect that there were steamship
line ticket brokers who encouraged many in Hungary, and, perhaps, Ukraine,
to take this route.

Because Libau was in Corland, part of Russia, it's possible that Mark's
relatives chose to leave >from there because they held Russian passports,
making the entire process simpler--versus departing >from ports in other
countries. Insights into this port are offered in the JewishGen article by
Deborah Glassman at:

www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/lyakhovichi/European%20Ports.htm

where she writes:

<<Many more women than men exited this way because men had to show proof of
discharge >from military service and sometimes also >from reserve status
before they could qualify for a passport. The passport should have been
issued in their home town but been recorded by the Libau police before
allowing boarding. Around 25,000 Jews exited via this port in the year 1904
alone. Use an exit >from this port as a strong indication that your ancestor
was traveling on valid Russian papers!
Russian-America Line, after WWI renamed Baltic-America Line. Founded in 1900
by a company headquartered in Copenhagen, the East Asiatic Company. In 1906,
its mission to run services >from Russia and Asia was cancelled after the
Russo-Japanese War of 1905 and it was given the Libau-NYC run in 1906.>>

At the IAJGS conference in New York, Professor Nick Evans will be giving a
talk which touches on the port of Libau in his session: "Jewish
Transmigration Through Britain, 1836-1924."

In an article he wrote for the "Moving Here" UK website at:

www.movinghere.org.uk/galleries/ histories/jewish/journeys/thames1.htm

-he also explains how the opening of the railway line between Kovno (today,
Kaunas, Lithuania) made emigration easier for Jews in the most northerly
parts of the Pale of Settlement, but it is clear that train routing
contributed to emigration choices.

There's also an interesting article available online which mentions
migration through Libau at:

"Trains, Shelters and Ships" at:

www.le.ac.uk/hi/centres/burton/pubs/pdf/trains.pdf

If any other genners have information, research, or theories about why
sailing >from or via Libau was chosen, please let us know!

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com

My mother-in-law, a Holocaust survivor, died a few weeks ago. She
received monthly reparations checks >from Germany.
First we cannot figure out where to return the checks no that she has
died. We have tried contacting the return addresses on the envelopes to
change the address since we moved her >from Fla. to Seattle for care, but
that has not resulted in any response in the last two months. The checks are
still going to Florida and we have gotten no other kind of response. Is this
usual?
Second, my mother in law has told my husband repeatedly that because
he was born in Germany (after the war though) that he is eligible to receive
some of the payments. We have his original Bergen Belsen birth certificate.
How do we approach this?
The question is this: Is there anyone out there who is knowledgeable
about these payments that could help us make contact with these offices so
that we get a reply? I have found a list of different offices in Germany
that deal with reparations. Would my husband's claim go to a different
place? Is there anything else we need to know? TIA. Please reply privately.
Rita Margolies, Redmond WA

Dear Genners,
I had a similar situation in my family; some of the family went

from Kolonie L'vovo, Kherson Guberniya to Libau before coming to the US.

Then I learned that the entire shtetl was formed in 1840 by floating
down the Dniepr River >from Courland (Latvia) to Kolonie L'vovo, which
was one of the Jewish Agricultural Colonies.
I was able to get a list of the family members (surname
specified), who left Courland in 1840 (for Kherson Guberniya). From
this list and a family letter, I was able to trace my family back to
Latvia and link up with the branches that did not leave Latvia in 1840.
So the short answer is, to say good-bye to family before they
crossed the ocean.
Sarah L. M. Christiansen,
Researching EDELBERG, EIDELBERG, SCHLAMOVITCH, KART, ARONSON, BAUM in
Latvia, Russia Ukraine
BIRGARDOVSKY, HITE, PERCHIK, MAGRUTSKY Ukraine
PERLSTADT, ANK(I)ER, KARMEL(EK), SZPILBAUM, FRO(U)M, NUTA,
BIGOS,KIRSHROT, WAGNER, ALPERN, ASPERSTEIN Poland
KAFRI, KOLODNY, ARIAV, ANKER, in Israel




Subject: Why Latvia?
From: Mark Shofron <shofron@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 16:07:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 1

Genners:

In 1906 my family immigrated to the US from
Pereyaslav, Ukraine (about 100 miles SE of Kiev.) They
boarded a ship to the US in Libau, Latvia. They lived
a relatively short distance to the Black Sea. Why
would they travel all the way to Latvia to embark for
America? Any ideas?

Mark Shofron
Mesa Arizona

Researching SHOFRON, SCHIFF/ SCHEWEZENSKY

My mother-in-law, a Holocaust survivor, died a few weeks ago. She
received monthly reparations checks >from Germany.
First we cannot figure out where to return the checks no that she has
died. We have tried contacting the return addresses on the envelopes to
change the address since we moved her >from Fla. to Seattle for care, but
that has not resulted in any response in the last two months. The checks are
still going to Florida and we have gotten no other kind of response. Is this
usual?
Second, my mother in law has told my husband repeatedly that because
he was born in Germany (after the war though) that he is eligible to receive
some of the payments. We have his original Bergen Belsen birth certificate.
How do we approach this?
The question is this: Is there anyone out there who is knowledgeable
about these payments that could help us make contact with these offices so
that we get a reply? I have found a list of different offices in Germany
that deal with reparations. Would my husband's claim go to a different
place? Is there anything else we need to know? TIA. Please reply privately.
Rita Margolies, Redmond WA

Dear Genners,
I had a similar situation in my family; some of the family went

from Kolonie L'vovo, Kherson Guberniya to Libau before coming to the US.

Then I learned that the entire shtetl was formed in 1840 by floating
down the Dniepr River >from Courland (Latvia) to Kolonie L'vovo, which
was one of the Jewish Agricultural Colonies.
I was able to get a list of the family members (surname
specified), who left Courland in 1840 (for Kherson Guberniya). From
this list and a family letter, I was able to trace my family back to
Latvia and link up with the branches that did not leave Latvia in 1840.
So the short answer is, to say good-bye to family before they
crossed the ocean.
Sarah L. M. Christiansen,
Researching EDELBERG, EIDELBERG, SCHLAMOVITCH, KART, ARONSON, BAUM in
Latvia, Russia Ukraine
BIRGARDOVSKY, HITE, PERCHIK, MAGRUTSKY Ukraine
PERLSTADT, ANK(I)ER, KARMEL(EK), SZPILBAUM, FRO(U)M, NUTA,
BIGOS,KIRSHROT, WAGNER, ALPERN, ASPERSTEIN Poland
KAFRI, KOLODNY, ARIAV, ANKER, in Israel




Subject: Why Latvia?
From: Mark Shofron <shofron@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2006 16:07:06 -0700 (PDT)
X-Message-Number: 1

Genners:

In 1906 my family immigrated to the US from
Pereyaslav, Ukraine (about 100 miles SE of Kiev.) They
boarded a ship to the US in Libau, Latvia. They lived
a relatively short distance to the Black Sea. Why
would they travel all the way to Latvia to embark for
America? Any ideas?

Mark Shofron
Mesa Arizona

Researching SHOFRON, SCHIFF/ SCHEWEZENSKY

Hi!

I am doing a history project about relations between nations before and during WWII in small towns near Tarnopol. Mostly I am interested in the history of Darachow (or Darakhov) in which my ancestors lived. I would like to ask anyone of you who knows someone or was there during that times to contact me. I just need people's description of how it was back then. In return for any information about the life of Jews in small Towns near Tarnopol, I can somehow help some of your researches, as I
will probably be visiting Ukraine this month!

Cheers,
Jêdrzej

Hi!

I am doing a history project about relations between nations before and during WWII in small towns near Tarnopol. Mostly I am interested in the history of Darachow (or Darakhov) in which my ancestors lived. I would like to ask anyone of you who knows someone or was there during that times to contact me. I just need people's description of how it was back then. In return for any information about the life of Jews in small Towns near Tarnopol, I can somehow help some of your researches, as I
will probably be visiting Ukraine this month!

Cheers,
Jêdrzej

I have received to Polish Birth Certificates that appear to for my mother
and an uncle. I would appreciate someone's help in translating them. They
may be found at (http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate), numbers V8153 in Russian and
V8154 in Polish. Many thanks in advance to anyone who can help me. Please reply
privately.

Adar Belinkoff
Claremont, CA

I have received to Polish Birth Certificates that appear to for my mother
and an uncle. I would appreciate someone's help in translating them. They
may be found at (http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate), numbers V8153 in Russian and
V8154 in Polish. Many thanks in advance to anyone who can help me. Please reply
privately.

Adar Belinkoff
Claremont, CA