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Re: Viewmate: Female name in old Czech/German handwriting #general

Nicole Heymans <nheymans@...>
 

I am sending this to the group as I believe it is of general interest.

When deciphering handwriting, whether old or modern, that vary widely
among individuals, it is always a help to have a reasonably sized
sample including vocabulary whose spelling is known. Could you post a
larger sample (e.g. a page of the register)? Whether you use a
scanner or digital camera, selecting a setting such as "black and
white drawing" or "document" helps keep the file size reasonable
while allowing high resolution.

Nicole Heymans, Brussels, Belgium

At 07:05 AM 6/22/06, you wrote:
Subject: Viewmate: Female name in old Czech/German handwriting
From: "Mimi Katz" <genealogist@dls.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:23:51 -0500
X-Message-Number: 19

Would someone, knowledgeable in old handwriting, please try to decipher the
female name (begins with R) on this Viewmate file? It comes >from a Bohemian
Familiant Book. I believe that it is a given name that I am not familiar
with.

To view the file, please click:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

and go to Viewmate file #VM8073

- Please - reply privately!

Thank you,
Mimi Katz, Chicago


View/Download for a Fee Seforim [Was: Tosfos Yomtov] #rabbinic

alfred silberman <alsilberman@...>
 

On 2006.06.20, Susan Edel <susan@deldent.com> wrote:

I am looking for a book called "Sefer Yosher Divrei Emes" a
chassidic mussar sefr, written by Rav Feivel Zavaritch HELLER.
There is a huge collection of seforim available online at:
http://www.otzar.biz/index_e.php

This is the organization called Otzar HaHochma. They sell hard
drives containing the whole collection but it is also available
online. There is a free preview of everything for about 15 seconds.
There are several options for extended viewing and copying
available. I find the price to be very reasonable.

The sefer you are looking for (published 1905) is one of the seforim
which is available at this site.

Moshe Silberman,
Monsey, NY

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re:Viewmate: Female name in old Czech/German handwriting #general

Nicole Heymans <nheymans@...>
 

I am sending this to the group as I believe it is of general interest.

When deciphering handwriting, whether old or modern, that vary widely
among individuals, it is always a help to have a reasonably sized
sample including vocabulary whose spelling is known. Could you post a
larger sample (e.g. a page of the register)? Whether you use a
scanner or digital camera, selecting a setting such as "black and
white drawing" or "document" helps keep the file size reasonable
while allowing high resolution.

Nicole Heymans, Brussels, Belgium

At 07:05 AM 6/22/06, you wrote:
Subject: Viewmate: Female name in old Czech/German handwriting
From: "Mimi Katz" <genealogist@dls.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:23:51 -0500
X-Message-Number: 19

Would someone, knowledgeable in old handwriting, please try to decipher the
female name (begins with R) on this Viewmate file? It comes >from a Bohemian
Familiant Book. I believe that it is a given name that I am not familiar
with.

To view the file, please click:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

and go to Viewmate file #VM8073

- Please - reply privately!

Thank you,
Mimi Katz, Chicago


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic View/Download for a Fee Seforim [Was: Tosfos Yomtov] #rabbinic

alfred silberman <alsilberman@...>
 

On 2006.06.20, Susan Edel <susan@deldent.com> wrote:

I am looking for a book called "Sefer Yosher Divrei Emes" a
chassidic mussar sefr, written by Rav Feivel Zavaritch HELLER.
There is a huge collection of seforim available online at:
http://www.otzar.biz/index_e.php

This is the organization called Otzar HaHochma. They sell hard
drives containing the whole collection but it is also available
online. There is a free preview of everything for about 15 seconds.
There are several options for extended viewing and copying
available. I find the price to be very reasonable.

The sefer you are looking for (published 1905) is one of the seforim
which is available at this site.

Moshe Silberman,
Monsey, NY

[Moderator's Note: This post is being distributed in accordance with
JewishGen's policy of affording products and services of genealogical
interest a one-time advertising distribution througth a posting on
our mailing list.]


Re: Where is/was Lomzhinskoy? #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

I'verecently begun working on my long-planned family history. Today, I
received a translation of my maternal GF's Russian Army paybook, 1895-1898.
A friend, I retired Russian Orthodox Priest, did the translating. I was
disappointed that the places in the book where City, Town, Village and date
of birth were supposed to be, were left blank. Both my GF's "Province" and
"Region" are identified as (as translated) "Lomzhinskoy." Anyone out there
have some suggestions for the location of this area? Family legend has his
hometown identified as Novgorod or Novogrod. He belonged to a burial
society, in New York City, supposedly comprised of others >from his home
town, with a plot in Old Montifore Cemetary in Queens, NY, the name of which
began with "Charne."
Is Lomzhinskoy another spelling for Lomza Gubernia, home of my maternal GM's
(BURSZTYN)family?
For the record: Private Yutka Goldstein served with the 90th Infantry,
Onezhsky Regiment >from 1895-1898. His pay was 45 kopeks every two months. He
made extra money by doing laundry work, tailoring and handling "rubbish".

Joel W. Caesar
Jackson, NJ
"Lomzhinskiy" is an adjective formed >from the noun "Lomzha" (i.e. Lomza).
Your gf was >from Lomza Gubernia. Nowogrod is indeed in Lomza Gubernia.
"Czarne" means "black", so there should be another word following. I've
searched the indices of two large roadmaps for such a place in Lomza
Gubernia, but find none. The most likely explanation for that is that it
is/was such a negligible wide place in the road that these quite detailed
maps don't show it.

To gain an idea of the meaning of "45 kopeks every two months", one should
observe that, even after four months, he has accumulated only small change,
and must wait another two before he can graduate to the status of an owner
of monetary paper.

My own grandfather was serving in the same area at the same time as yours,
in an artillery unit. I envy you the possession of the paybook.

Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Where is/was Lomzhinskoy? #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

I'verecently begun working on my long-planned family history. Today, I
received a translation of my maternal GF's Russian Army paybook, 1895-1898.
A friend, I retired Russian Orthodox Priest, did the translating. I was
disappointed that the places in the book where City, Town, Village and date
of birth were supposed to be, were left blank. Both my GF's "Province" and
"Region" are identified as (as translated) "Lomzhinskoy." Anyone out there
have some suggestions for the location of this area? Family legend has his
hometown identified as Novgorod or Novogrod. He belonged to a burial
society, in New York City, supposedly comprised of others >from his home
town, with a plot in Old Montifore Cemetary in Queens, NY, the name of which
began with "Charne."
Is Lomzhinskoy another spelling for Lomza Gubernia, home of my maternal GM's
(BURSZTYN)family?
For the record: Private Yutka Goldstein served with the 90th Infantry,
Onezhsky Regiment >from 1895-1898. His pay was 45 kopeks every two months. He
made extra money by doing laundry work, tailoring and handling "rubbish".

Joel W. Caesar
Jackson, NJ
"Lomzhinskiy" is an adjective formed >from the noun "Lomzha" (i.e. Lomza).
Your gf was >from Lomza Gubernia. Nowogrod is indeed in Lomza Gubernia.
"Czarne" means "black", so there should be another word following. I've
searched the indices of two large roadmaps for such a place in Lomza
Gubernia, but find none. The most likely explanation for that is that it
is/was such a negligible wide place in the road that these quite detailed
maps don't show it.

To gain an idea of the meaning of "45 kopeks every two months", one should
observe that, even after four months, he has accumulated only small change,
and must wait another two before he can graduate to the status of an owner
of monetary paper.

My own grandfather was serving in the same area at the same time as yours,
in an artillery unit. I envy you the possession of the paybook.

Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


Re: Kibbutz Ma'aleh Ha'Chamisha #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 6/21/2006 11:58:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
LJTRS@aol.com writes:

<< All we know is that her name is Rachel and she lives in Kibbutz Ma'aleh
Ha'Chamisha. This Rachel would be related to us through the KREINES family.
Does anybody want to help me find this woman? >>

==The postal address is

Mazkirut (Secretariat)
Kibbutz Maaleh Hachamisha
Judean Hills 90835
Jerusalem
Israel

==I googled. Google some more and you may find a url or email address.

They have a popular (and good!) hotel that appears on most of the google
hits. You dont want that, though.

Michael Bernet, New York


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Kibbutz Ma'aleh Ha'Chamisha #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 6/21/2006 11:58:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
LJTRS@aol.com writes:

<< All we know is that her name is Rachel and she lives in Kibbutz Ma'aleh
Ha'Chamisha. This Rachel would be related to us through the KREINES family.
Does anybody want to help me find this woman? >>

==The postal address is

Mazkirut (Secretariat)
Kibbutz Maaleh Hachamisha
Judean Hills 90835
Jerusalem
Israel

==I googled. Google some more and you may find a url or email address.

They have a popular (and good!) hotel that appears on most of the google
hits. You dont want that, though.

Michael Bernet, New York


The Death of Jan Langos #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

Dear All,

As Jan Hlavinka mentions in his message, I met with Jan Langos,
Director of the Slovak Institute of National Memory, during my
visit to Slovakia in August 2005. With Jan's translation
assistance, Mr. Langos and I were able to discuss our mutual
interest in publishing documentation of the Slovak Holocaust despite our inability to directly communicate with one another in our native
tongues. One of the projects we discussed was incorporating names
from the Institute's database of liquidated Jewish businesses into
JewishGen's All-Hungarian Database.

The untimely and tragic death of Jan Langos in an automobile accident
is a terrible loss not only for his family and for those of us with
family ties to lands now in Slovakia but also for all those
who recognize the importance of documenting the Holocaust.
Publishing these records will help the Slovak people and the rest of
the world to remember what transpired during these terrible years and
rememberance is critical to preventing recurrence.

The best way to honor the memory of Jan Langos is to
support continuation of his very important work.

On behalf of JewishGen's Hungarian SIG, I want to express my
condolences to the family of Mr. Langos and to his dedicated
colleagues at the Institute.

Vivian Kahn, Hungarian SIG Coordinator



Subject: The tragic and sudden death of Jan Langos
From: <j-hlavinka@chello.sk>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:59:35 +0200
X-Message-Number: 9

Dear fellow SIG-ers,

I believe that many of you interested in historical and genealogical
research focused on Jewish communities of Slovakia were aware of the
work of Nation=B4s Memory Institute of Slovakia based in Bratislava, =20=
the capital of
Slovakia. The Institute was founded by the Act of the
National Council of the Slovak Republic No. 553/2002 Coll.
The mission of the Institute is to provide the access to the =20
previously
undisclosed records of the activities of the repressive organs
of the Slovak and Czechoslovak states in the period of oppression in
the years 1939-1989.


=46rom the start, the Institute has conducted research on the
Holocaust in Slovakia (1939-1945) and persecution of Jewish people =20
during the
Communist period Czechoslovakia (1948-1989) and this constitutes one
of the main areas of interest of NMI. In December 2005, the
Institute managed to publish the database of more than 10,000
liquidated Jewish businessess (1941-1942) and since that time made
remarkable progress in efforts to bring to light documents on the so-
called "aryanization" process and other acts of persecution against
Jewish people in Slovakia during 1939-1945 .

All this has been accomplished thanks to the work and support of
Ing. Jan Langos, the Chairman of the Board of Directors of the =20
Nation=B4s
Memory Institute and its founder.

Jan Langos was also interested in work of Jewish Gen Hungarian =20
Special Interest Group.
In the summer of 2005 H-SIG Coordinator Vivian Kahn met with Jan =20
Langos in
Bratislava and discussed possible areas of cooperation between
JewishGen and the Institute.
In February 2006 Chairman Langos signed the cooperation agreement =20
between
NMI and USHMM Washington, D.C.

I am very sad to inform you all that in the morning hours of June
15, 2006, Board of Directors Chairman of the Nation=B4s Memory
Institute Jan Langos died tragically.

The Nation=B4s Memory Institute has lost a charismatic personality
who determined decisively the direction of this young institution as
a part of the modern democratic history of the Slovak Republic. All
those who are conducting research on the Holocaust and persecution of
Jewish people in the Nation=B4 s Memory Institute and all those who
are interested in the results of this essential and important
research have suffered a tremendous loss.

Those of you who are interested to express sympathy can post messages
on-line at: http://www.upn.gov.sk/kondolencna-listina/

Mgr. Jan Hlavinka,
Nation=B4s Memory Institute Research Department,
Bratislava, Slovak Republic


Hungary SIG #Hungary The Death of Jan Langos #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

Dear All,

As Jan Hlavinka mentions in his message, I met with Jan Langos,
Director of the Slovak Institute of National Memory, during my
visit to Slovakia in August 2005. With Jan's translation
assistance, Mr. Langos and I were able to discuss our mutual
interest in publishing documentation of the Slovak Holocaust despite our inability to directly communicate with one another in our native
tongues. One of the projects we discussed was incorporating names
from the Institute's database of liquidated Jewish businesses into
JewishGen's All-Hungarian Database.

The untimely and tragic death of Jan Langos in an automobile accident
is a terrible loss not only for his family and for those of us with
family ties to lands now in Slovakia but also for all those
who recognize the importance of documenting the Holocaust.
Publishing these records will help the Slovak people and the rest of
the world to remember what transpired during these terrible years and
rememberance is critical to preventing recurrence.

The best way to honor the memory of Jan Langos is to
support continuation of his very important work.

On behalf of JewishGen's Hungarian SIG, I want to express my
condolences to the family of Mr. Langos and to his dedicated
colleagues at the Institute.

Vivian Kahn, Hungarian SIG Coordinator



Subject: The tragic and sudden death of Jan Langos
From: <j-hlavinka@chello.sk>
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:59:35 +0200
X-Message-Number: 9

Dear fellow SIG-ers,

I believe that many of you interested in historical and genealogical
research focused on Jewish communities of Slovakia were aware of the
work of Nation=B4s Memory Institute of Slovakia based in Bratislava, =20=
the capital of
Slovakia. The Institute was founded by the Act of the
National Council of the Slovak Republic No. 553/2002 Coll.
The mission of the Institute is to provide the access to the =20
previously
undisclosed records of the activities of the repressive organs
of the Slovak and Czechoslovak states in the period of oppression in
the years 1939-1989.


=46rom the start, the Institute has conducted research on the
Holocaust in Slovakia (1939-1945) and persecution of Jewish people =20
during the
Communist period Czechoslovakia (1948-1989) and this constitutes one
of the main areas of interest of NMI. In December 2005, the
Institute managed to publish the database of more than 10,000
liquidated Jewish businessess (1941-1942) and since that time made
remarkable progress in efforts to bring to light documents on the so-
called "aryanization" process and other acts of persecution against
Jewish people in Slovakia during 1939-1945 .

All this has been accomplished thanks to the work and support of
Ing. Jan Langos, the Chairman of the Board of Directors of the =20
Nation=B4s
Memory Institute and its founder.

Jan Langos was also interested in work of Jewish Gen Hungarian =20
Special Interest Group.
In the summer of 2005 H-SIG Coordinator Vivian Kahn met with Jan =20
Langos in
Bratislava and discussed possible areas of cooperation between
JewishGen and the Institute.
In February 2006 Chairman Langos signed the cooperation agreement =20
between
NMI and USHMM Washington, D.C.

I am very sad to inform you all that in the morning hours of June
15, 2006, Board of Directors Chairman of the Nation=B4s Memory
Institute Jan Langos died tragically.

The Nation=B4s Memory Institute has lost a charismatic personality
who determined decisively the direction of this young institution as
a part of the modern democratic history of the Slovak Republic. All
those who are conducting research on the Holocaust and persecution of
Jewish people in the Nation=B4 s Memory Institute and all those who
are interested in the results of this essential and important
research have suffered a tremendous loss.

Those of you who are interested to express sympathy can post messages
on-line at: http://www.upn.gov.sk/kondolencna-listina/

Mgr. Jan Hlavinka,
Nation=B4s Memory Institute Research Department,
Bratislava, Slovak Republic


Re: latamsig digest: June 20, 2006 #latinamerica

anetegandelman@...
 

Dear Marcia

Let me see if I can help you with a few informations that I know

Fernado Affonso Collor de Mello was president >from 1990 - 1992.
Only two years, because of his impeachment to follow the government.
corruptions things

His family is >from Alagoas and they have a comunication company: newspaper,
TV, radio
This company was >from is father - Arnon Affonso de Melo - that also was a
political. He was Alagoas governess around 1950
I don´t know the name of is grandfather, or gg...

Alagoas is a state in NE Brazil and also Pernambuco. They are close each
other, but Alagoas don´t have tradition in sugar cane like Pernambuco

Another point about Pernambuco is that in 1630 the holland people entered in
Pernambuco and took the government to them.
The holland count Mauricio de Nassau was the governess until 1654. After the
hollands were deported and the portuguese people took the state again.

Hope that this informations can give you support to follow search

Best Regards

Anete Gandelman
São Paulo - SP - Brazil

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Former President of Brazil's Family
From: "Marcia Kuusisto" <DynamoPortuguese@msn.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:20:45 -0500
X-Message-Number: 1

Good Day!

Could you please help me with my search on sugar cane Land Lords in
Pernambuco, Brazil?

Last name (usually together): Affonso de Mello
SNIP


Latin America #LatinAmerica Re: latamsig digest: June 20, 2006 #latinamerica

anetegandelman@...
 

Dear Marcia

Let me see if I can help you with a few informations that I know

Fernado Affonso Collor de Mello was president >from 1990 - 1992.
Only two years, because of his impeachment to follow the government.
corruptions things

His family is >from Alagoas and they have a comunication company: newspaper,
TV, radio
This company was >from is father - Arnon Affonso de Melo - that also was a
political. He was Alagoas governess around 1950
I don´t know the name of is grandfather, or gg...

Alagoas is a state in NE Brazil and also Pernambuco. They are close each
other, but Alagoas don´t have tradition in sugar cane like Pernambuco

Another point about Pernambuco is that in 1630 the holland people entered in
Pernambuco and took the government to them.
The holland count Mauricio de Nassau was the governess until 1654. After the
hollands were deported and the portuguese people took the state again.

Hope that this informations can give you support to follow search

Best Regards

Anete Gandelman
São Paulo - SP - Brazil

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Former President of Brazil's Family
From: "Marcia Kuusisto" <DynamoPortuguese@msn.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:20:45 -0500
X-Message-Number: 1

Good Day!

Could you please help me with my search on sugar cane Land Lords in
Pernambuco, Brazil?

Last name (usually together): Affonso de Mello
SNIP


ABRAMOWITZ from Boston #general

yoni ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

Are there any old-time (turn of the century) ABRAMOWITZs >from the Boston
area who could contact me as to possible family connections?

Thanks and shabbat shalom

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ABRAMOWITZ from Boston #general

yoni ben-ari <yrcdi@...>
 

Are there any old-time (turn of the century) ABRAMOWITZs >from the Boston
area who could contact me as to possible family connections?

Thanks and shabbat shalom

Yoni Ben-Ari, Efrat, Israel


Re: looking for GOLDENZWEIG formerly from Montreal #general

Harry Dodsworth <af877@...>
 

Janette Silverman (jsilverman@janette-silverman.com) posted about
the GOLDENZWEIG family of Montreal

I found records of Goldenzweigs through 1939 and then they
disappear >from Montreal, at least in the directories I could
figure out how to search online.
I was at the National Library of Canada and checked the original
paper directories.
The 1939/40 directory listed a Nat Goldenzweig with a business address
on St. Dominique St. and residence on Blvd. Decarie (near Sherbrooke).
In 1940 and 1941, he was not listed in the alphabetical index but
was listed at the Decarie address.
In 1942, the address was listed as Mrs Nat Goldenzweig widow Nat.
This continued until 1946 when she became Mrs Nat Gold.
from 1950 to 1956 she was Mrs F Gold widow Nat,
and in 1957 the house was occupied by an Eve Gold, after which the
house appeared to have no connection with the Gold family.

Going back to 1938, I found Nat Goldenzweig living at Decarie but
trading, probably, as Nat Gold on St. Dominique.

There were certainly more Goldenzweigs in earlier years; possibly
other family members became Golds.

Harry Dodsworth, Ottawa, Canada - af877@freenet.carleton.ca


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: looking for GOLDENZWEIG formerly from Montreal #general

Harry Dodsworth <af877@...>
 

Janette Silverman (jsilverman@janette-silverman.com) posted about
the GOLDENZWEIG family of Montreal

I found records of Goldenzweigs through 1939 and then they
disappear >from Montreal, at least in the directories I could
figure out how to search online.
I was at the National Library of Canada and checked the original
paper directories.
The 1939/40 directory listed a Nat Goldenzweig with a business address
on St. Dominique St. and residence on Blvd. Decarie (near Sherbrooke).
In 1940 and 1941, he was not listed in the alphabetical index but
was listed at the Decarie address.
In 1942, the address was listed as Mrs Nat Goldenzweig widow Nat.
This continued until 1946 when she became Mrs Nat Gold.
from 1950 to 1956 she was Mrs F Gold widow Nat,
and in 1957 the house was occupied by an Eve Gold, after which the
house appeared to have no connection with the Gold family.

Going back to 1938, I found Nat Goldenzweig living at Decarie but
trading, probably, as Nat Gold on St. Dominique.

There were certainly more Goldenzweigs in earlier years; possibly
other family members became Golds.

Harry Dodsworth, Ottawa, Canada - af877@freenet.carleton.ca


Re: Oreh, Russia #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

Can someone tell me where Oreh, Russia is? One of my relatives is >from
there. They actually lived in Teleneshty and Kamenka but gave their place
of birth as Oreh. Thanks. Marilyn Feingold
---
Sender: "Marilyn Feingold" <mrl516@bellsouth.net>
Or maybe "Orel"?

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Oreh, Russia #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

Can someone tell me where Oreh, Russia is? One of my relatives is >from
there. They actually lived in Teleneshty and Kamenka but gave their place
of birth as Oreh. Thanks. Marilyn Feingold
---
Sender: "Marilyn Feingold" <mrl516@bellsouth.net>
Or maybe "Orel"?

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address is
not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the URL
above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


Re: Kibbutz Ma'aleh Ha'Chamisha #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

In a message dated 6/21/2006 11:58:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
LJTRS@aol.com wrote:

<< All we know is that her name is Rachel and she lives in
Kibbutz Ma'aleh Ha'Chamisha. This Rachel would be related to us through
the KREINES family. Does anybody want to help me find this woman? >>
Regarding Ma'aleh ha-Hamishah, which means "The Ascent of the Five",
people might like to know that this kibbutz, not far >from Jerusalem
in the Judaean Hills, was founded in 1938 by Polish-Jewish halutzim
from the Gordonia movement in Lodz. The name of the kibbutz
commemorates five of its halutzim (pioneers), who were killed in an
ambush by Arabs while working nearby to reclaiming land and plant a
forest there .

I wonder how many JGenners still recall the long and beautiful
dirge about "The Five" that was sung in the Zionist Youth movements
more than 50 years ago. It began thus:

Hamishah yats'u moledet livnot -- hamishah
Ba-bayit azvu 'em ve-ahot, tinoq ve-ishah
"Five went forth to build a homeland -- five....
At home they left a mother, a sister, a baby and a wife....

and went on to describe the ambush in graphic detail. I still
remember every word of it!

We should mourn the passing of songs like this. They were lengthy,
and thus provided most of the Hebrew vocabulary I learned as a
teenager. But nobody sings these songs today -- people seem prefer
songs that comprise a single biblical verse chanted over and over --
which does little to enhance one's Hebrew vocabulary. Sic transit
gloria!

Judith Romney Wegner

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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Kibbutz Ma'aleh Ha'Chamisha #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

In a message dated 6/21/2006 11:58:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
LJTRS@aol.com wrote:

<< All we know is that her name is Rachel and she lives in
Kibbutz Ma'aleh Ha'Chamisha. This Rachel would be related to us through
the KREINES family. Does anybody want to help me find this woman? >>
Regarding Ma'aleh ha-Hamishah, which means "The Ascent of the Five",
people might like to know that this kibbutz, not far >from Jerusalem
in the Judaean Hills, was founded in 1938 by Polish-Jewish halutzim
from the Gordonia movement in Lodz. The name of the kibbutz
commemorates five of its halutzim (pioneers), who were killed in an
ambush by Arabs while working nearby to reclaiming land and plant a
forest there .

I wonder how many JGenners still recall the long and beautiful
dirge about "The Five" that was sung in the Zionist Youth movements
more than 50 years ago. It began thus:

Hamishah yats'u moledet livnot -- hamishah
Ba-bayit azvu 'em ve-ahot, tinoq ve-ishah
"Five went forth to build a homeland -- five....
At home they left a mother, a sister, a baby and a wife....

and went on to describe the ambush in graphic detail. I still
remember every word of it!

We should mourn the passing of songs like this. They were lengthy,
and thus provided most of the Hebrew vocabulary I learned as a
teenager. But nobody sings these songs today -- people seem prefer
songs that comprise a single biblical verse chanted over and over --
which does little to enhance one's Hebrew vocabulary. Sic transit
gloria!

Judith Romney Wegner

MODERATOR NOTE: Please keep responses related to genealogy.