Having seen the notation of the Rootsweb study on
Napoleon in what is currently Belarus, I took out my
oversized biography of Napoleon and looked at the maps
of the campaigns and read the descriptions of the
Grand Army burning and pillaging what was in their
path. It reminded me of the brutal actions of the
Nazis in that area in 1941 [if you omit the racist
ideology of the Germans.] Towns and shtetls [Vitebsk,
Orsha, Mogilev] that I have mentioned in my archiving
of landsmanshaften sprang up before my eyes. Too bad I
was unable, at the time to question my Mogilever
grandparents whose own grandparents were there at the
time of the French invasions. Think of all the family
history we missed because our interests were stirred
after our last links to an early history were cut off.

Jerry Seligsohn
Volunteer Archivist
YIVO
MODERATOR NOTE: As this is not specific to genealogy, please continue privately.

Having seen the notation of the Rootsweb study on
Napoleon in what is currently Belarus, I took out my
oversized biography of Napoleon and looked at the maps
of the campaigns and read the descriptions of the
Grand Army burning and pillaging what was in their
path. It reminded me of the brutal actions of the
Nazis in that area in 1941 [if you omit the racist
ideology of the Germans.] Towns and shtetls [Vitebsk,
Orsha, Mogilev] that I have mentioned in my archiving
of landsmanshaften sprang up before my eyes. Too bad I
was unable, at the time to question my Mogilever
grandparents whose own grandparents were there at the
time of the French invasions. Think of all the family
history we missed because our interests were stirred
after our last links to an early history were cut off.

Jerry Seligsohn
Volunteer Archivist
YIVO
MODERATOR NOTE: As this is not specific to genealogy, please continue privately.

Reply to Nicky Carklin re her underneath message:

"SAFRICA Digest for Saturday, July 08, 2006.
1. Re: Jewish Life in the S.A. Country Communities"

Full details of the S.A. Small Country Communities
Project are given in the S.A. SIG March 2006 Newsletter.
The Free State will be in Volume 4.
The staff at SA Friends of Beth Hatefutsoth can be
contacted by e-mail at museum@beyachad.co.za
for enquiries.

My message giving the website was put onto the
SA SIG Digest at my own initiative after seeing
the site on the Internet, and not as an
advertisement for the the South African Friends of
Beth Hatefutsoth.

Beryl Baleson
Israel.
balden@zahav.net.il

Reply to Nicky Carklin re her underneath message:

"SAFRICA Digest for Saturday, July 08, 2006.
1. Re: Jewish Life in the S.A. Country Communities"

Full details of the S.A. Small Country Communities
Project are given in the S.A. SIG March 2006 Newsletter.
The Free State will be in Volume 4.
The staff at SA Friends of Beth Hatefutsoth can be
contacted by e-mail at museum@beyachad.co.za
for enquiries.

My message giving the website was put onto the
SA SIG Digest at my own initiative after seeing
the site on the Internet, and not as an
advertisement for the the South African Friends of
Beth Hatefutsoth.

Beryl Baleson
Israel.
balden@zahav.net.il

Dear Sam,

How did you contact them by address? or by e-mail?

Thanks.
Diane Jacobs
Somerset, NJ

Dear Sam,

How did you contact them by address? or by e-mail?

Thanks.
Diane Jacobs
Somerset, NJ

This subject is a very interesting one. An organization called in Hebrew
Ha'Bricha (the escape) operated in Hungary and smuggled many people out
of the country.

My late parents were among those who were smuggled out of Hungary in
1948 via Czechoslovakia. Before they crossed the border, the people who
accompanied them asked that they would give them al the money and
valuables that they had since if caught by the Czechs on the other side
their faith might be very bad. So they did as did all the other members
of the group. My mother had only kept her wedding ring in a match box
because she couldn't give it away.

After crossing the border they were searched by the Czechs and the
wedding ring was found and confiscated.

from Czechoslovakia they were moved to Vienna, Austria were various

organizations were supporting the refugees. Many Jewish people who
arrived there immigrated to the USA and others, like my parents,
immigrated to Israel. To get to Israel, my parents were moved to Bari,
Italy where they waited for a ship to take them. Eventually they got on
a ship called Gallila and arrived in Haifa on May 1949.=20

Isaac Katz
Israel

-----Original Message-----
From: gunclers@juno.com [mailto:gunclers@juno.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 5:06 PM
To: H-SIG
Subject: [h-sig] Jews smuggled out of postwar Hungary

My father, Laszlo (Laci) Gunczler z"l, was responsible for smuggling
groups of Jews out of Hungary until his arrest in 1949. I'm trying to
get
a clearer idea of how the remaining family network operated at the time,
so it would be helpful to hear about anyone who left the country that
way
through Satoraljaujhely into Czechoslovakia.
Many thanks--
Sam Guncler
NYC

researching GUNCZLER, HAUSMAN, ADAM(S), BUCHHALTER, ISAACS

This subject is a very interesting one. An organization called in Hebrew
Ha'Bricha (the escape) operated in Hungary and smuggled many people out
of the country.

My late parents were among those who were smuggled out of Hungary in
1948 via Czechoslovakia. Before they crossed the border, the people who
accompanied them asked that they would give them al the money and
valuables that they had since if caught by the Czechs on the other side
their faith might be very bad. So they did as did all the other members
of the group. My mother had only kept her wedding ring in a match box
because she couldn't give it away.

After crossing the border they were searched by the Czechs and the
wedding ring was found and confiscated.

from Czechoslovakia they were moved to Vienna, Austria were various

organizations were supporting the refugees. Many Jewish people who
arrived there immigrated to the USA and others, like my parents,
immigrated to Israel. To get to Israel, my parents were moved to Bari,
Italy where they waited for a ship to take them. Eventually they got on
a ship called Gallila and arrived in Haifa on May 1949.=20

Isaac Katz
Israel

-----Original Message-----
From: gunclers@juno.com [mailto:gunclers@juno.com]=20
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 5:06 PM
To: H-SIG
Subject: [h-sig] Jews smuggled out of postwar Hungary

My father, Laszlo (Laci) Gunczler z"l, was responsible for smuggling
groups of Jews out of Hungary until his arrest in 1949. I'm trying to
get
a clearer idea of how the remaining family network operated at the time,
so it would be helpful to hear about anyone who left the country that
way
through Satoraljaujhely into Czechoslovakia.
Many thanks--
Sam Guncler
NYC

researching GUNCZLER, HAUSMAN, ADAM(S), BUCHHALTER, ISAACS

sounds interesting
im interested in dvinsk
i believe the main Dvinsk cemetry was torned into a sportsfield and they
would not allow them to remove the bodies to another place as as they said
they would spread typhus
nb
Naomi Baumslag MD

***Please note this is my new email address below***

baumslag@gmail.com

sounds interesting
im interested in dvinsk
i believe the main Dvinsk cemetry was torned into a sportsfield and they
would not allow them to remove the bodies to another place as as they said
they would spread typhus
nb
Naomi Baumslag MD

***Please note this is my new email address below***

baumslag@gmail.com

I have posted to ViewMate a photograph of a Hebrew gravestone. It is in
Mikulov (Nikolsburg), Moravia. I can read pieces. I have more photos,
including single photos of words. They are large (mostly .5 - 1.5Mb
each) which I can send if they will help.

The URL of the Viewmate posting is:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8115

The name of the deceased is Loeb POLLAK, in lines 5-6. He is probably
my g-g-g-grandfather. The year is in the 3rd line.

I am especially interested in getting the father's entire name and the
entire date, though I am interested in the entire text.

This is a diagram of the words on the gravestone, along with my best
guesses of their letters. The number of question marks shows my degree
of uncertainty. In the right column is any guess I have about the
entire word. The words designated T1 and T2 are not in this photo.

T2 T1

3 2 1
7 6 5 4
11 10 9 8
17 16 15 14 13 12
23 22 21 20 19 18
29 28 27 26 25 24
33 32 31 30
34

T1 lamed shin mem yud mem-sofit l'shamayim
T2 yud tzade aleph bet shin kuf

Line 1:
1 bet(tzade)? yud?(vav?) vav (mem-sofit?) b'yom?
2 resh(aleph???) shin vav?(yud?) nun-sofit rishon?
3 ?? ?? gimmel ?? pey nun ??
Line 2:
4 shin?(vav aleph)? lamed
5 ayin?? mem?? ?? ?? lamed?
6 lamed lamed kaf? (bet?) resh???
7 bet? kaf? samech? vav? chav-sofit?
Line 3:
8 lamed mem? ? ? ? ?
9 bet? shin nun? tav? b'shenat
10 tav? resh/kuf? tet/mem [year] 5609,5640,5509 or 5540
(1849,1880,1749 or 1780)
11 lamed pey kuf <year without thousands>
Line 4:
12 aleph yud? shin
13 yud?? shin? lamed??
14 ?? yud?? tzade?? lamed??
15 nun? chet? nun? kuf? (or hay? chet??) choked??
16 mem ayin (or yud gimmel)
yud (or vav) ayin (???) dying??
17 kaf? peh yud?
Line 5:
18 ayin? ?? ?? mem-sofit?
19 mem? vav? ?? ??
20 hey?? ??
21 tav? nun? ayin? lamed? kuf(or hey)? one whose
spirit went up ??
22 samech?? hey?? dalet????
23 lamed yud bet Loeb
Line 6:
24 bet nun-sofit ben
25 hay? (or resh)? mem ayin? (or nun yud)? ??
26 lamed? ?? ??
27 aleph yud tzade kuf Aitzak/Itzak
28 pey aleph lamed lamed alph kuf Pollak
29 zayin lamed z"l
Line 7:
30 yud shin kaf? bet?
31 bet? shin?(mem?) lamed vav kaf?(mem-sofit??) b'shalom??
32 yud? ??? shin nun-sofit
33 b'shalom b'shalom
Line 8:
34 Tav nun tzade bet hey abbreviation
May his soul be bound up in
the bond of eternal life

Thank you for any help.

Bob Lenk
Greeley, Colorado, USA

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.

I have posted to ViewMate a photograph of a Hebrew gravestone. It is in
Mikulov (Nikolsburg), Moravia. I can read pieces. I have more photos,
including single photos of words. They are large (mostly .5 - 1.5Mb
each) which I can send if they will help.

The URL of the Viewmate posting is:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8115

The name of the deceased is Loeb POLLAK, in lines 5-6. He is probably
my g-g-g-grandfather. The year is in the 3rd line.

I am especially interested in getting the father's entire name and the
entire date, though I am interested in the entire text.

This is a diagram of the words on the gravestone, along with my best
guesses of their letters. The number of question marks shows my degree
of uncertainty. In the right column is any guess I have about the
entire word. The words designated T1 and T2 are not in this photo.

T2 T1

3 2 1
7 6 5 4
11 10 9 8
17 16 15 14 13 12
23 22 21 20 19 18
29 28 27 26 25 24
33 32 31 30
34

T1 lamed shin mem yud mem-sofit l'shamayim
T2 yud tzade aleph bet shin kuf

Line 1:
1 bet(tzade)? yud?(vav?) vav (mem-sofit?) b'yom?
2 resh(aleph???) shin vav?(yud?) nun-sofit rishon?
3 ?? ?? gimmel ?? pey nun ??
Line 2:
4 shin?(vav aleph)? lamed
5 ayin?? mem?? ?? ?? lamed?
6 lamed lamed kaf? (bet?) resh???
7 bet? kaf? samech? vav? chav-sofit?
Line 3:
8 lamed mem? ? ? ? ?
9 bet? shin nun? tav? b'shenat
10 tav? resh/kuf? tet/mem [year] 5609,5640,5509 or 5540
(1849,1880,1749 or 1780)
11 lamed pey kuf <year without thousands>
Line 4:
12 aleph yud? shin
13 yud?? shin? lamed??
14 ?? yud?? tzade?? lamed??
15 nun? chet? nun? kuf? (or hay? chet??) choked??
16 mem ayin (or yud gimmel)
yud (or vav) ayin (???) dying??
17 kaf? peh yud?
Line 5:
18 ayin? ?? ?? mem-sofit?
19 mem? vav? ?? ??
20 hey?? ??
21 tav? nun? ayin? lamed? kuf(or hey)? one whose
spirit went up ??
22 samech?? hey?? dalet????
23 lamed yud bet Loeb
Line 6:
24 bet nun-sofit ben
25 hay? (or resh)? mem ayin? (or nun yud)? ??
26 lamed? ?? ??
27 aleph yud tzade kuf Aitzak/Itzak
28 pey aleph lamed lamed alph kuf Pollak
29 zayin lamed z"l
Line 7:
30 yud shin kaf? bet?
31 bet? shin?(mem?) lamed vav kaf?(mem-sofit??) b'shalom??
32 yud? ??? shin nun-sofit
33 b'shalom b'shalom
Line 8:
34 Tav nun tzade bet hey abbreviation
May his soul be bound up in
the bond of eternal life

Thank you for any help.

Bob Lenk
Greeley, Colorado, USA

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.

I have posted what I think is a 1901 Discharge papers form the Russian
Army. I would like a translation of both pages. Page 1 is at
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8144 and page
2 at http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8145.
On Page one I am particularly interested in the name of the
person and why it looks like the three names all end with the same two
characters?
Thanks for your help. Please respond privately
Barry Chernick
Bellevue, WA

I have posted what I think is a 1901 Discharge papers form the Russian
Army. I would like a translation of both pages. Page 1 is at
http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8144 and page
2 at http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=8145.
On Page one I am particularly interested in the name of the
person and why it looks like the three names all end with the same two
characters?
Thanks for your help. Please respond privately
Barry Chernick
Bellevue, WA

Is anyone familiar with the WWII asset recovery firm in Toronto called
Mondex? Out of the blue I got a call and an international FedEx about
recovering my great-grandmother's brother's assets--he died an old man at
Auschwitz. I am guessing that the company got my name and the name of the
ancestor >from JewishGen, where I made a post a long time ago. Is this company
legitimate or not? If you know something, or have had experience with this
firm, could you please let me know.

Carol Zsolnay
carol@zsolnay.org

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.

Is anyone familiar with the WWII asset recovery firm in Toronto called
Mondex? Out of the blue I got a call and an international FedEx about
recovering my great-grandmother's brother's assets--he died an old man at
Auschwitz. I am guessing that the company got my name and the name of the
ancestor >from JewishGen, where I made a post a long time ago. Is this company
legitimate or not? If you know something, or have had experience with this
firm, could you please let me know.

Carol Zsolnay
carol@zsolnay.org

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately.

This is the schedule of genealogy workshops offered this summer by the National Archives
and Records Administration, 201 Varick Street, 12th Floor, Manhattan.

July 11, 2006, 12:30 p.m.-1:30 p.m.
Using Census Records >from the National Archives

July 24, 2006, 2:00 p.m.-3:00 p.m.
Preserving Your Family Papers

Tuesday, August 15, 2006, 12:30 p.m.-1:30 p.m.
Genealogical Resources for New England: Using Records >from the National Archives

There is no fee for the workshops. Each workshop is limited to 40 participants.

Prior registration is required. To register and to get more details, e-mail them at
newyork.archives@nara.gov.

See http://www.archives.gov/northeast/nyc/public/workshops.html for more information.

Joy Rich
Brooklyn, NY

This is the schedule of genealogy workshops offered this summer by the National Archives
and Records Administration, 201 Varick Street, 12th Floor, Manhattan.

July 11, 2006, 12:30 p.m.-1:30 p.m.
Using Census Records >from the National Archives

July 24, 2006, 2:00 p.m.-3:00 p.m.
Preserving Your Family Papers

Tuesday, August 15, 2006, 12:30 p.m.-1:30 p.m.
Genealogical Resources for New England: Using Records >from the National Archives

There is no fee for the workshops. Each workshop is limited to 40 participants.

Prior registration is required. To register and to get more details, e-mail them at
newyork.archives@nara.gov.

See http://www.archives.gov/northeast/nyc/public/workshops.html for more information.

Joy Rich
Brooklyn, NY

Hello
I have wrote here several times asking for help and
since new members sign up every day I will try my luck
once more:
Is anybody out there >from Rakow Polen? I can not
believe nobosy has heard of Rakow? My mother Blima
Cymbalista, came >from a large family, did anybody
maybe have heard of her? Her parents, my grandparents,
were Moshe and Rifka Cymbalista. Moshe was much older
then Rifka she was his second wife. He had two
children with his first wife. Their names were Rosa
Cymbalista, who married a GROSSMAN and moved to
Cananda. I found the family but they dont know me and
dont want to be bothered which I do understand my aunt
Rosa is dead already, so are the two sons she had. The
other was a son Josef Cymbalista who moved to Israel.
I met him once he was a gentle older man and was
married also. My mother did not care to stay in
contact with him so I have no address. My mother Blima
survived her Holocaust time with her two brothers,
Motek who was the sweetest man anybody could have
wanted for an uncle and Leon. Leon returned to Israel
and married, I know he had a son but I dont know
anything of him either. He returned to Germany and
later remarried a german woman. So has anybosy heard
of a Blima Cymbalista born 1922, her best friend after
the Holocaust was Pola GILTER, wife of Josef Gilter,
(Haifa) bother dead now.I am just trying to find
anything about my family and would be most grateful
for any info. I know my mother had a cousin that moved
to Argentinia.
Thank you for all the help I have received so far.
Laja Rifka Thomas (searching for Lewkowicz/Cymbalista)

Hello
I have wrote here several times asking for help and
since new members sign up every day I will try my luck
once more:
Is anybody out there >from Rakow Polen? I can not
believe nobosy has heard of Rakow? My mother Blima
Cymbalista, came >from a large family, did anybody
maybe have heard of her? Her parents, my grandparents,
were Moshe and Rifka Cymbalista. Moshe was much older
then Rifka she was his second wife. He had two
children with his first wife. Their names were Rosa
Cymbalista, who married a GROSSMAN and moved to
Cananda. I found the family but they dont know me and
dont want to be bothered which I do understand my aunt
Rosa is dead already, so are the two sons she had. The
other was a son Josef Cymbalista who moved to Israel.
I met him once he was a gentle older man and was
married also. My mother did not care to stay in
contact with him so I have no address. My mother Blima
survived her Holocaust time with her two brothers,
Motek who was the sweetest man anybody could have
wanted for an uncle and Leon. Leon returned to Israel
and married, I know he had a son but I dont know
anything of him either. He returned to Germany and
later remarried a german woman. So has anybosy heard
of a Blima Cymbalista born 1922, her best friend after
the Holocaust was Pola GILTER, wife of Josef Gilter,
(Haifa) bother dead now.I am just trying to find
anything about my family and would be most grateful
for any info. I know my mother had a cousin that moved
to Argentinia.
Thank you for all the help I have received so far.
Laja Rifka Thomas (searching for Lewkowicz/Cymbalista)