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Re: Superstitions #unitedkingdom

Ina Levitt-Yanover
 

I love this thread. The customs, traditions, superstitions and recipes,
for me, make our ancestors live.

My grandfather >from Staszow, Poland was horrified when I stepped over
my sister who was lying on the floor watching TV. "She won't grow", he
said, in a shocked tone of voice. I had to step back over her so that
she would grow.

She is actually quite short. Maybe there is something to these
superstitions!

Ina Levitt-Yanover
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada

(where it feels more like the tropics with a predicted humidex of 46
for this afternoon)


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: Superstitions #unitedkingdom

Ina Levitt-Yanover
 

I love this thread. The customs, traditions, superstitions and recipes,
for me, make our ancestors live.

My grandfather >from Staszow, Poland was horrified when I stepped over
my sister who was lying on the floor watching TV. "She won't grow", he
said, in a shocked tone of voice. I had to step back over her so that
she would grow.

She is actually quite short. Maybe there is something to these
superstitions!

Ina Levitt-Yanover
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada

(where it feels more like the tropics with a predicted humidex of 46
for this afternoon)


1820 Settlers #southafrica

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

I have been doing a cursory investigation of Jews who may have been part of
the 1820 Settlers group to South Africa.

There were a number who attempted to be accepted by the government for
settlement at the Cape of Good Hope and failed and there were those who
succeeded.

A wonderful site for checking out this fascinating part of early South
African Jewish history can be found at the 1820 Settlers site:

http://www.1820Settlers.com

Amongst the things to be found on this site is a collection of
correspondance relating to the settlers which is housed at the National
Archives at Kew.

One such is for Samuel Cohan, a master fisherman, >from Shadwell, England.
The letters include not only his petition to the government asking for
permission to settle, but also an anonymous note stating that he was a Jew
as well as a smuggler and con artist.

In addition, there is a list of others who wanted to join in his party and a
number of them have Jewish names such as Moses Levy, Marcus Abraham, Moses
Moses, Aaron Hendriks and Solomon Samuel, and have their ages, addresses and
occupations as well as family members.

It appears that Samuel Cohan was turned down for settlement as well as the
others in his party with the exception of a Mr. Robinson.

Another possible prospective Jewish settler, Dr. Daniel Baruk, was turned
down too, but his son Ralph Baruk was able to be accepted.

It is a chapter of history worth looking at.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica 1820 Settlers #southafrica

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

I have been doing a cursory investigation of Jews who may have been part of
the 1820 Settlers group to South Africa.

There were a number who attempted to be accepted by the government for
settlement at the Cape of Good Hope and failed and there were those who
succeeded.

A wonderful site for checking out this fascinating part of early South
African Jewish history can be found at the 1820 Settlers site:

http://www.1820Settlers.com

Amongst the things to be found on this site is a collection of
correspondance relating to the settlers which is housed at the National
Archives at Kew.

One such is for Samuel Cohan, a master fisherman, >from Shadwell, England.
The letters include not only his petition to the government asking for
permission to settle, but also an anonymous note stating that he was a Jew
as well as a smuggler and con artist.

In addition, there is a list of others who wanted to join in his party and a
number of them have Jewish names such as Moses Levy, Marcus Abraham, Moses
Moses, Aaron Hendriks and Solomon Samuel, and have their ages, addresses and
occupations as well as family members.

It appears that Samuel Cohan was turned down for settlement as well as the
others in his party with the exception of a Mr. Robinson.

Another possible prospective Jewish settler, Dr. Daniel Baruk, was turned
down too, but his son Ralph Baruk was able to be accepted.

It is a chapter of history worth looking at.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Superstitions #unitedkingdom

Judy Wolkovitch <judywolk@...>
 

And I thought my mother was the superstition queen!! Apparently when
talking of dead people you have to pull your ear. I remember as a child
running away >from my mother so she would not be able to pull mine (she 'got
me' an hour later!!)

Judy Wolkovitch
Los Angeles


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Superstitions #unitedkingdom

Judy Wolkovitch <judywolk@...>
 

And I thought my mother was the superstition queen!! Apparently when
talking of dead people you have to pull your ear. I remember as a child
running away >from my mother so she would not be able to pull mine (she 'got
me' an hour later!!)

Judy Wolkovitch
Los Angeles


Re: UKR Chernigov Group Meeting at the IAJGS #ukraine

Harriet Hoffman
 

There will be a meeting of the Chernigov Group, Monday, Aug. 14th, 5 p.m. in
the lobby outside of the research/computer rooms. If a change of location is
needed a sign will be posted.

We will be discussing our active projects, digest, new web site and future
programs.

If this is an area of interest to you we sincerely hope you will join us.
Look forward to seeing you soon.

Harriet Hoffman
Honolulu, HI, USA


Ports in Canada #ukraine

YALE BRICK <ybrick@...>
 

Does anyone have any information about how to get ship
manifests for boats arriving in Halifax, Nova Scotia.
Were there other Canadian ports on the East Coast
i.e., St John's NFLD?

Yale Hart Brick
Thornhill, ON CANADA
ybrick@rogers.com

Yale H Brick
Thornhill, ON CANADA
ybrick@rogers.com


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: UKR Chernigov Group Meeting at the IAJGS #ukraine

Harriet Hoffman
 

There will be a meeting of the Chernigov Group, Monday, Aug. 14th, 5 p.m. in
the lobby outside of the research/computer rooms. If a change of location is
needed a sign will be posted.

We will be discussing our active projects, digest, new web site and future
programs.

If this is an area of interest to you we sincerely hope you will join us.
Look forward to seeing you soon.

Harriet Hoffman
Honolulu, HI, USA


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Ports in Canada #ukraine

YALE BRICK <ybrick@...>
 

Does anyone have any information about how to get ship
manifests for boats arriving in Halifax, Nova Scotia.
Were there other Canadian ports on the East Coast
i.e., St John's NFLD?

Yale Hart Brick
Thornhill, ON CANADA
ybrick@rogers.com

Yale H Brick
Thornhill, ON CANADA
ybrick@rogers.com


Attention, Group Member who was looking for Burshivker #ukraine

ALEX VOLKOV <volkoff@...>
 

Hi!

I can't find your email, but it was a question about Burshivker
After 2 weeks of search I finally found it
Place called BRITSHIVA
But the best part of it, is that its Own Huge Yizkor Book is right now on=
sale
on Ebay, look here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/YIZKOR-BRITSHIVA-BESSARABIA-BOOK-HOLOCAUST-1970_W0QQi=
temZ6550351912QQihZ012QQcategoryZ29223QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Hope it helps!
Alex

Looking for:
VOLKOV >from Krivoy Rog, Ukraine; JABOTINSKY >from Krivoy Rog or nearby
FALICOV >from Vilkovo (Valcove), Bessarabia
GENESSIN >from Tarutino (Anchokrak), Bessarabia
ANNAPOLSKY >from Chigiin, Ukraine
GULINSKY >from Ratcevoe (near Novogeorgievsk), Ukraine
LIVERTOVSKY >from Aleksandria, Ukraine
LIEBERMAN and GOLDFARB >from Ternovka (near Bershad), Ukraine


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Attention, Group Member who was looking for Burshivker #ukraine

ALEX VOLKOV <volkoff@...>
 

Hi!

I can't find your email, but it was a question about Burshivker
After 2 weeks of search I finally found it
Place called BRITSHIVA
But the best part of it, is that its Own Huge Yizkor Book is right now on=
sale
on Ebay, look here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/YIZKOR-BRITSHIVA-BESSARABIA-BOOK-HOLOCAUST-1970_W0QQi=
temZ6550351912QQihZ012QQcategoryZ29223QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Hope it helps!
Alex

Looking for:
VOLKOV >from Krivoy Rog, Ukraine; JABOTINSKY >from Krivoy Rog or nearby
FALICOV >from Vilkovo (Valcove), Bessarabia
GENESSIN >from Tarutino (Anchokrak), Bessarabia
ANNAPOLSKY >from Chigiin, Ukraine
GULINSKY >from Ratcevoe (near Novogeorgievsk), Ukraine
LIVERTOVSKY >from Aleksandria, Ukraine
LIEBERMAN and GOLDFARB >from Ternovka (near Bershad), Ukraine


FW: Superstitions #unitedkingdom

Sue Levy
 

How wonderful to read of all these crazy superstitions in other people's
Jewish families. I always thought my mother and family were together the
superstition capital of the world. They came up with superstitions I never
knew were possible - someone out there had real imagination!

Some other examples: Sick people must not wear new clothes. Don't put shoes
on the bed (besides the fact that they might not be clean). A bride must not
sew her own wedding dress.

I'm sure we all know how to ward off the Evil Eye - Pt Pt Pt (three little
spits - the Nanny does them quite well!); say Kein ayn hora; Please G-d;
Chas v-chalila. And so on...

Are we all nodding and smiling yet?

Sue Levy
Perth, Australia


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom FW: Superstitions #unitedkingdom

Sue Levy
 

How wonderful to read of all these crazy superstitions in other people's
Jewish families. I always thought my mother and family were together the
superstition capital of the world. They came up with superstitions I never
knew were possible - someone out there had real imagination!

Some other examples: Sick people must not wear new clothes. Don't put shoes
on the bed (besides the fact that they might not be clean). A bride must not
sew her own wedding dress.

I'm sure we all know how to ward off the Evil Eye - Pt Pt Pt (three little
spits - the Nanny does them quite well!); say Kein ayn hora; Please G-d;
Chas v-chalila. And so on...

Are we all nodding and smiling yet?

Sue Levy
Perth, Australia


Re: Superstitions #unitedkingdom

henry
 

Although my family has no connection that I can find to Eastern Europe (we
are Sephardic), we had the keys on the table superstition and another that
has not been mentioned here yet.
A baby had to have a piece of red ribbon pinned to it's clothing to ward off
the 'evil eye'.

As to Harold's suggestion that, because he lived in Leytonstone, it may
account for his family's lack of superstition, I can only say that I live in
Leytonstone now and there is no lack of superstition around here :-)

Henry Best [London]


Re: Superstitions #unitedkingdom

Shirley Collier <shirley.collier@...>
 

Someone mentioned that when a person dies he is placed on the floor with his
feet facing the door.

This reminded me of when I worked for builders merchants and my boss came
back to the office and asked me whether it was true that in a bedroom the
bed must not be placed with the foot of the bed facing the door because it
was a Jewish superstition and they were now having to change the design of
the bedroom to fit in with this custom.

SHIRLEY COLLIER
East of London UK
Member of JGSGB Council
Regional Group Co-ordinator

Researching:
BIERMAN/BERMAN- Piesk,Lublin/New York/London
SHEVA EICHEL - London/New York
HARRIS (or derivations)- Sieradz/Hull/London
HOROWITZ - Siedlce
ROZAINSKY/WAPNIARZ - Lomza/Czestochowa/Pultusk/New York/Swansea/London
TILLES/TRINKENREICH - Tarnow/Krakow/Newcastle/London

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nachum Tuchman" <nachum613@gmail.com>
To: "JCR-UK SIG" <jcr-uk@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 10:53 AM
Subject: Fwd: [jcr-uk] Superstitions


Hi,

I'd like to comment on the facing the door. This is not merely a
superstition, rather it is based on a custom. When a person dies, he
is placed on the floor with his feet facing the door, until the body
is removed. Therefore, it is customary not to face the door, feet
first.

The big one in our family, >from Poland and Belarus, was not stepping
over a person, especially a child. This would cause him/her to stop
growing.

Nachum Tuchman
Tekoa, Israel


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JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: Superstitions #unitedkingdom

henry
 

Although my family has no connection that I can find to Eastern Europe (we
are Sephardic), we had the keys on the table superstition and another that
has not been mentioned here yet.
A baby had to have a piece of red ribbon pinned to it's clothing to ward off
the 'evil eye'.

As to Harold's suggestion that, because he lived in Leytonstone, it may
account for his family's lack of superstition, I can only say that I live in
Leytonstone now and there is no lack of superstition around here :-)

Henry Best [London]


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: Superstitions #unitedkingdom

Shirley Collier <shirley.collier@...>
 

Someone mentioned that when a person dies he is placed on the floor with his
feet facing the door.

This reminded me of when I worked for builders merchants and my boss came
back to the office and asked me whether it was true that in a bedroom the
bed must not be placed with the foot of the bed facing the door because it
was a Jewish superstition and they were now having to change the design of
the bedroom to fit in with this custom.

SHIRLEY COLLIER
East of London UK
Member of JGSGB Council
Regional Group Co-ordinator

Researching:
BIERMAN/BERMAN- Piesk,Lublin/New York/London
SHEVA EICHEL - London/New York
HARRIS (or derivations)- Sieradz/Hull/London
HOROWITZ - Siedlce
ROZAINSKY/WAPNIARZ - Lomza/Czestochowa/Pultusk/New York/Swansea/London
TILLES/TRINKENREICH - Tarnow/Krakow/Newcastle/London

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nachum Tuchman" <nachum613@gmail.com>
To: "JCR-UK SIG" <jcr-uk@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 10:53 AM
Subject: Fwd: [jcr-uk] Superstitions


Hi,

I'd like to comment on the facing the door. This is not merely a
superstition, rather it is based on a custom. When a person dies, he
is placed on the floor with his feet facing the door, until the body
is removed. Therefore, it is customary not to face the door, feet
first.

The big one in our family, >from Poland and Belarus, was not stepping
over a person, especially a child. This would cause him/her to stop
growing.

Nachum Tuchman
Tekoa, Israel


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Re. ViewMate, need help with 1798 Danish tombstone in Fredericia. #general

Kirsten Gradel <kirsten.gradel@...>
 

Yesterday I placed a picture of a 1798 tombstone >from Denmark on
ViewMate, asking for help in reading it.

We already received five answers, all incredibly clever and also very
consistent as to what they could read.

So we do not need to trouble more with that stone, we are perfectly
happy with the result.

Kirsten Gradel,
Nyborg, Denmark


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re. ViewMate, need help with 1798 Danish tombstone in Fredericia. #general

Kirsten Gradel <kirsten.gradel@...>
 

Yesterday I placed a picture of a 1798 tombstone >from Denmark on
ViewMate, asking for help in reading it.

We already received five answers, all incredibly clever and also very
consistent as to what they could read.

So we do not need to trouble more with that stone, we are perfectly
happy with the result.

Kirsten Gradel,
Nyborg, Denmark