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VM8351: Handwritten Names on Vienna Death Record #austria-czech

Ed Zwieback <ezwieback@...>
 

I recently received a very useful 1921 Death Record (Todfallsaufnahme) from
the MA8 Archives in Vienna. The Death Record was for Julie BOCK, dies at
age 72 in 1921, widowed.

Section 10 lists some great new info for me; 7 living adult children.
Included are the given and surnames, married names, ages, occupations, and
addresses.

However, the handwriting is hard for me to read and I would appreciate help
to get the info right so I can search on this info. I have posted the
Section 10 scan on viewmate as file - VM8351 ;
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html .

Please send responses directly to me- NOT to the SIG.

Thanks for your help,
Regards,
Ed Zwieback
Long Beach, CA
with personal family at http://ezwieback.com/ZPK-p/index.htm


More from the Prague Museum #austria-czech

Henry Wellisch <henry.kelwel@...>
 

Analytical Table 3 has now been added to our website.
This is an index of hundreds of names which consists essentially of a
breakdown of the data found in columns 19, 22 and 41 of Analytical
Table 1. They are mainly a collection of papers, endowments and
individual correspondence of individuals. The place names refer to the
archives concerned, the number to the catalogue of the Jewish
community archives of Bohemia and Moravia and the dates to the period
of time covered.
Here are a few random entries >from the list:

Adler Joseph, Slavkov, 161, 1881-1939.
Eisenschimmel, familv, Mlada Boleslav, 180, 1897-1930.
Kulka, Jacub, Prerov, 88, 1922-1940
Nelos family, Lovosice, 1, 1765-1893.
Singer, family, Prostejov, 234, 1849-1939.
Weiner, family, Velke Mezirici, 56 57, 1870-1901.

Some 10 years ago, several months before I travelled to Prague, I
requested copies of the contents of one file of the list. I received a
letter >from the museum that the file would be ready when I arrived in
Prague. It was.
Henry Wellisch
Toronto


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech VM8351: Handwritten Names on Vienna Death Record #austria-czech

Ed Zwieback <ezwieback@...>
 

I recently received a very useful 1921 Death Record (Todfallsaufnahme) from
the MA8 Archives in Vienna. The Death Record was for Julie BOCK, dies at
age 72 in 1921, widowed.

Section 10 lists some great new info for me; 7 living adult children.
Included are the given and surnames, married names, ages, occupations, and
addresses.

However, the handwriting is hard for me to read and I would appreciate help
to get the info right so I can search on this info. I have posted the
Section 10 scan on viewmate as file - VM8351 ;
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html .

Please send responses directly to me- NOT to the SIG.

Thanks for your help,
Regards,
Ed Zwieback
Long Beach, CA
with personal family at http://ezwieback.com/ZPK-p/index.htm


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech More from the Prague Museum #austria-czech

Henry Wellisch <henry.kelwel@...>
 

Analytical Table 3 has now been added to our website.
This is an index of hundreds of names which consists essentially of a
breakdown of the data found in columns 19, 22 and 41 of Analytical
Table 1. They are mainly a collection of papers, endowments and
individual correspondence of individuals. The place names refer to the
archives concerned, the number to the catalogue of the Jewish
community archives of Bohemia and Moravia and the dates to the period
of time covered.
Here are a few random entries >from the list:

Adler Joseph, Slavkov, 161, 1881-1939.
Eisenschimmel, familv, Mlada Boleslav, 180, 1897-1930.
Kulka, Jacub, Prerov, 88, 1922-1940
Nelos family, Lovosice, 1, 1765-1893.
Singer, family, Prostejov, 234, 1849-1939.
Weiner, family, Velke Mezirici, 56 57, 1870-1901.

Some 10 years ago, several months before I travelled to Prague, I
requested copies of the contents of one file of the list. I received a
letter >from the museum that the file would be ready when I arrived in
Prague. It was.
Henry Wellisch
Toronto


Jews in Harbin #austria-czech

Joyce Field
 

515 Jewish burials in Harbin, China are included in JOWBR--JewishGen
Online Worldwide Burial Registry. Five burials >from Shanghai's Soong
Ching Ling Memorial Park, Foreigners' Tomb Area, are also included in
JOWBR.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Jews in Harbin #austria-czech

Joyce Field
 

515 Jewish burials in Harbin, China are included in JOWBR--JewishGen
Online Worldwide Burial Registry. Five burials >from Shanghai's Soong
Ching Ling Memorial Park, Foreigners' Tomb Area, are also included in
JOWBR.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition


Re: Seeking info about GANS family #austria-czech

Hans Peter Grab <hpgrab@...>
 

Michael Gans >from Israel wrote:

my name is Michael Gans
I'm trying to find more about my family

As my grandmother told me we are decedents of David Gans of Prague.
The Family moved to Jaegendorf, now Krnov and stayed there until about
1850
when Abraham Adolf Gans moved to Vienna. The family owned "Gans
bettwaren".
his son Heinrich Gans, my grandfather, married Olga kobler
they and their son Kurt emigrated to Palestine today Israel.
Heinrich's brother committed suicide when the Nazis entered his home.
I know of one more relative who went to the USA where he called himself
Ernest O Anders.
Dear Michael,

Judith GANS born probably in Boehmisch Leipa/Ceska Lipa about 1735
was one of my great-great-great-great-grandmothers and married probably
1757 in Ceska Lipa my gggggfather Ber Lewoja/Lavoja.

Her oldest known ancestor was Joachim GANS >from Braunschweig/Germany
which bought Jan 4, 1596 in Ceska Lipa a house and Feb 23, 1622 a second
house. Michal GANS and David GANS were named as houses owners in
Ceska Lipa on July 23, 1631 (source: Book "Zide v Ceske Lipe=Jews in Ceska
Lipa" >from Mgr. Marie Vojtiskova - 1999 - ISBN 80-85627-98-1).

You be able to find the GANS family in following sources archived in
Narodni archiv Praha:
Familiantenbuch=Book of familiants HBF 90 (male family members born
between 1795 - 1817).
Jewish Census 1724 (HBS 1724), 1783 (HBS 1783) and 1793 (HBS 1793)
with family members born between 1696 and 1793.
Geburtsmatrik Boehmisch Leipa=Birth book Ceska Lipa 1797 - 1838
(HBMa 236).
In this sources you find also:
Dawid GANS, b. 1691/2, son of Jacob GANS
and
David GANS, b. 1776, son of Juda/Juedel GANS and of Sara, nee
UNKNOWN.

The latest GANS >from Ceska Lipa which I know was Salomon GANS, b.
Dec 12, 1801 in Ceska Lipa and d. Oct 17, 1890 in Ceska Lipa, son of
Moyses GANS (brother of David) with Libuscha, nee ALTSCHUL and
grandson of Juda/Juedel GANS with Sara, nee UNKNOWN. His first
wife was Libuscha, nee MAUTNER and his second wife Babette, nee
UNKNOWN. Salamons and Babettas gravestone I have seen on the
Jewish cemetery in Ceska Lipa.

Best Wishes
Hanus Grab


Re: Seeking info about GANS family #austria-czech

Ron Herrmann <ron_herrmann@...>
 

Shalom Michael,

I have Adele GANZ >from Prague who married Otto
ROBITSCHEK. Her granddaughter is living in Baltimore
and actually she will be visiting Israel next month,
where you live.

I do not have any more info about Adele Ganz except a
picture.

I am cc:ing her granddaughter on this e-mail and maybe
she can provide more info.

Ra'anan Herrmann, Bedminster, NJ, USA
Researching: HERRMANN, ROBITSCHEK, LOEBL, ABELES,
KAFKA, PROPPER, REIN, LOWENSTEIN >from various areas of
the Czech Republic.

Subject: Seeking info about GANS family
From: "michael" <michael@gans.co.il>
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:09:50 +0200
my name is Michael Gans
I'm trying to find more about my family

As my grandmother told me we are decedents of David
Gans of Prague.
The Family moved to Jaegendorf, now Krnov and stayed
there until about
1850
when Abraham Adolf Gans moved to Vienna. The family
owned "Gans
bettwaren".
his son Heinrich Gans, my grandfather, married Olga
kobler
they and their son Kurt emigrated to Palestine today
Israel.
Heinrich's brother committed suicide when the Nazis
entered his home.
I know of one more relative who went to the USA where
he called himself
Ernest O Anders.

Thank you for any information

Michael Gans


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Seeking info about GANS family #austria-czech

Hans Peter Grab <hpgrab@...>
 

Michael Gans >from Israel wrote:

my name is Michael Gans
I'm trying to find more about my family

As my grandmother told me we are decedents of David Gans of Prague.
The Family moved to Jaegendorf, now Krnov and stayed there until about
1850
when Abraham Adolf Gans moved to Vienna. The family owned "Gans
bettwaren".
his son Heinrich Gans, my grandfather, married Olga kobler
they and their son Kurt emigrated to Palestine today Israel.
Heinrich's brother committed suicide when the Nazis entered his home.
I know of one more relative who went to the USA where he called himself
Ernest O Anders.
Dear Michael,

Judith GANS born probably in Boehmisch Leipa/Ceska Lipa about 1735
was one of my great-great-great-great-grandmothers and married probably
1757 in Ceska Lipa my gggggfather Ber Lewoja/Lavoja.

Her oldest known ancestor was Joachim GANS >from Braunschweig/Germany
which bought Jan 4, 1596 in Ceska Lipa a house and Feb 23, 1622 a second
house. Michal GANS and David GANS were named as houses owners in
Ceska Lipa on July 23, 1631 (source: Book "Zide v Ceske Lipe=Jews in Ceska
Lipa" >from Mgr. Marie Vojtiskova - 1999 - ISBN 80-85627-98-1).

You be able to find the GANS family in following sources archived in
Narodni archiv Praha:
Familiantenbuch=Book of familiants HBF 90 (male family members born
between 1795 - 1817).
Jewish Census 1724 (HBS 1724), 1783 (HBS 1783) and 1793 (HBS 1793)
with family members born between 1696 and 1793.
Geburtsmatrik Boehmisch Leipa=Birth book Ceska Lipa 1797 - 1838
(HBMa 236).
In this sources you find also:
Dawid GANS, b. 1691/2, son of Jacob GANS
and
David GANS, b. 1776, son of Juda/Juedel GANS and of Sara, nee
UNKNOWN.

The latest GANS >from Ceska Lipa which I know was Salomon GANS, b.
Dec 12, 1801 in Ceska Lipa and d. Oct 17, 1890 in Ceska Lipa, son of
Moyses GANS (brother of David) with Libuscha, nee ALTSCHUL and
grandson of Juda/Juedel GANS with Sara, nee UNKNOWN. His first
wife was Libuscha, nee MAUTNER and his second wife Babette, nee
UNKNOWN. Salamons and Babettas gravestone I have seen on the
Jewish cemetery in Ceska Lipa.

Best Wishes
Hanus Grab


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Seeking info about GANS family #austria-czech

Ron Herrmann <ron_herrmann@...>
 

Shalom Michael,

I have Adele GANZ >from Prague who married Otto
ROBITSCHEK. Her granddaughter is living in Baltimore
and actually she will be visiting Israel next month,
where you live.

I do not have any more info about Adele Ganz except a
picture.

I am cc:ing her granddaughter on this e-mail and maybe
she can provide more info.

Ra'anan Herrmann, Bedminster, NJ, USA
Researching: HERRMANN, ROBITSCHEK, LOEBL, ABELES,
KAFKA, PROPPER, REIN, LOWENSTEIN >from various areas of
the Czech Republic.

Subject: Seeking info about GANS family
From: "michael" <michael@gans.co.il>
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2006 12:09:50 +0200
my name is Michael Gans
I'm trying to find more about my family

As my grandmother told me we are decedents of David
Gans of Prague.
The Family moved to Jaegendorf, now Krnov and stayed
there until about
1850
when Abraham Adolf Gans moved to Vienna. The family
owned "Gans
bettwaren".
his son Heinrich Gans, my grandfather, married Olga
kobler
they and their son Kurt emigrated to Palestine today
Israel.
Heinrich's brother committed suicide when the Nazis
entered his home.
I know of one more relative who went to the USA where
he called himself
Ernest O Anders.

Thank you for any information

Michael Gans


Wasini, Romania? #romania

ewilson4@...
 

From: ewilson4@rochester.rr.com
To: rom-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:35 AM
Subject: Wasini


Dear List:

Ellis Island records state that my grandfather Leon ROSENBLATT, a Romanian,
came to the US November 26, 1897 on the SS Spree >from Bremen.

His 'Last place of residence' was said to be Wasini.

I have not been able to find 'Wasini' in WOWW. Google puts it in Africa.

Does anyone know anything about a Romanian Wasini?

Thankfully,

Doris Wilson
Rochester


Romania SIG #Romania Wasini, Romania? #romania

ewilson4@...
 

From: ewilson4@rochester.rr.com
To: rom-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 8:35 AM
Subject: Wasini


Dear List:

Ellis Island records state that my grandfather Leon ROSENBLATT, a Romanian,
came to the US November 26, 1897 on the SS Spree >from Bremen.

His 'Last place of residence' was said to be Wasini.

I have not been able to find 'Wasini' in WOWW. Google puts it in Africa.

Does anyone know anything about a Romanian Wasini?

Thankfully,

Doris Wilson
Rochester


New subscriber, researching LUBINSKY in South Africa #southafrica

Steinsteve@...
 

Hello,

I'm a long-time researcher, and I've recently followed a likely lead to
relatives who emigrated >from Lithuania to South Africa. I've scouted out a
couple
of the SA-SIG websites, but could use a little direction on how to locate and
obtain immigration, naturalization, and current directory information for the
Johannesburg area. Thanks in advance.

Steve Stein
Highland Park, NJ


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica New subscriber, researching LUBINSKY in South Africa #southafrica

Steinsteve@...
 

Hello,

I'm a long-time researcher, and I've recently followed a likely lead to
relatives who emigrated >from Lithuania to South Africa. I've scouted out a
couple
of the SA-SIG websites, but could use a little direction on how to locate and
obtain immigration, naturalization, and current directory information for the
Johannesburg area. Thanks in advance.

Steve Stein
Highland Park, NJ


Re: Research in Wormditt / Orneta (now Poland) #germany

N.Landau@...
 

Ronny Wallace Somerset NJ <ronald@thewallaces.net> asked:
"Does anyone have any suggestions as to where one might search for marriage
details for a wedding that took place in Wormditt, Germany in around 1900?
The town is now called Orneta and is in Poland."
See http://www.polishroots.org/genpoland/records.htm

There is a link regarding Jewish records but it doesn't cover areas
that would have not been considered Poland eg East Prussia. Regards,

Nick Landau London, UK


German SIG #Germany Re: Research in Wormditt / Orneta (now Poland) #germany

N.Landau@...
 

Ronny Wallace Somerset NJ <ronald@thewallaces.net> asked:
"Does anyone have any suggestions as to where one might search for marriage
details for a wedding that took place in Wormditt, Germany in around 1900?
The town is now called Orneta and is in Poland."
See http://www.polishroots.org/genpoland/records.htm

There is a link regarding Jewish records but it doesn't cover areas
that would have not been considered Poland eg East Prussia. Regards,

Nick Landau London, UK


Searching: BUCHHOLZ #germany

Ally Burdett
 

Hi all,

I'm looking for more information on the German Jewish side of my
family; in particular ancestors and descendants. It would be great to
hear >from anyone who thinks they may be related to me.

Samuel Sigmund BUCHHOLZ was born in 1885. He served in the
Prussian army in WW1. He was a metallurgist, as far as I know,
and may well have taught at a university in Berlin.

Anna Maria JOHANNA was born in or around 1898. I don't know
her last name. She was married to Samuel BUCHHOLZ.

They had one child: Peter Fritz Julius BUCHHOLZ. He was born
in 1924. He later changed his name to Peter BRADY.

The family lived in Berlin and came to London, England in the 1930s.

Thank you.

Ally Burdett, London, England <allyburdett@hotmail.com>

REMINDER: Last names ( family names ) of ancestors you are researching and their
relatives must be typed in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS every time they appear anywhere
in email to this list. This message was edited by the Moderator as a one-time
courtesy to Ally Burdett.


German SIG #Germany Searching: BUCHHOLZ #germany

Ally Burdett
 

Hi all,

I'm looking for more information on the German Jewish side of my
family; in particular ancestors and descendants. It would be great to
hear >from anyone who thinks they may be related to me.

Samuel Sigmund BUCHHOLZ was born in 1885. He served in the
Prussian army in WW1. He was a metallurgist, as far as I know,
and may well have taught at a university in Berlin.

Anna Maria JOHANNA was born in or around 1898. I don't know
her last name. She was married to Samuel BUCHHOLZ.

They had one child: Peter Fritz Julius BUCHHOLZ. He was born
in 1924. He later changed his name to Peter BRADY.

The family lived in Berlin and came to London, England in the 1930s.

Thank you.

Ally Burdett, London, England <allyburdett@hotmail.com>

REMINDER: Last names ( family names ) of ancestors you are researching and their
relatives must be typed in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS every time they appear anywhere
in email to this list. This message was edited by the Moderator as a one-time
courtesy to Ally Burdett.


Re: Help locating Galician info in Vienna #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Judith Romney Wegner has confirmed her husband's great success in
finding his Galician roots through Vienna records and ended like
this: <Those interested might try contacting the Meldeamt
Registration Office] of the Wiener Stadt und Landesarchiv [Vienna
City Archives] at post@m08.magwien.gv.at >

My immediate reaction is - ***please do not*** unless you are
well-prepared! MA08 [the Wiener Stadt und Landesarchiv, housed in the
Gasometer] is very overworked and will not answer unless you have
specific address and name details preferably with dates - and these
must be after 1900 for a Meldeauskunft [see below].

The subject and methodology for getting the most out of the Vienna
records [for anyone - not only Galicians] effectively involves a
multipronged approach using many record sources in Vienna. It is
often a stepwise procedure, where one thing leads to another and you
get a genealogical jigsaw puzzle to solve. I use:

1. Address/telephone books housed in the archive
2. Two pre-1900 databases [if the family was already there, then you
get a full listing] - housed only in the archive
3. Cemetery/burial data - >from which you can get addresses -
obtainable >from the Israelitische Kultusgemeinde {IKG} and the
cemetery itself. The graves themselves often have vital clues too.
4. If there is a death, you can, in many cases, get the
Todfallsaufnahme [death registration/probate record] and a will -
often with much genealogical data inc. next of kin. NB: You need a
name, address and date of death to get this >from the archive.
5. Holocaust data with deportation addresses and post-war records of
people seeking compensation and relatives >from Doew.
6. Vital records - ie births, deaths and marriages if they occurred.
7. jri-pl for cross-checking - on line
8. Yad vashem data with POTs - on line
9. Asset files at the State archives - these can be very valuable.
10. Other data in the USA etc

If the family has been established in Vienna for a long time and
there are many vital records then the approach is different.
Galicians often arrived with ready-made families.

Once you have an address you can approach MAO8, as suggested by
Judith, but ***not before***. The MA08 will reply in German to you
with the Meldeauskunft ie details of the household registration
documents [Meldezettel] - these often have very important
genealogical data in them. Meldezettel pre-1900 were destroyed by
overzealous officials having a clearout. MA08 will not undertake
genealogical research - ie they will get the probate records [there
is a modest fee] for you and the Meldeauskunft [free] but no more.
Judith's husband may have been lucky some time ago with a
helpful/sympathetic archivist - but this would not happen today!

The Habsburg Empire was always known to be one of the most
bureacratic in the world - with thousands of civil servants and hence
there are oodles of records. I hope you are all now convinced that
what I wrote originally is correct. I did not give details of the
Galician families I investigated as I have not asked each of the
families for their permission. One project is on-going and we have
had quite a lot of success [thanks also to Renee Steinig for her help
with correlating Vienna records with US records] but sadly we have
not found any living descendants yet.

With Galicians, there is no guarantee that you will hit the jackpot,
but I have in many instances. If they just passed through and never
stayed long you may not find a trace. However, an old letter with a
home address and date may make all the difference to your research.
A confirmation with a jri-pl record is the icing on the cake.
Conversely, I know of births and marriages recorded on documents in
Vienna which cannot be found on Jri-pl.

Celia Male [U.K.]

For general advice see: http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/
and http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/ausguide.htm
and specifically Peter Lowe's excellent article on Meldezettel:
http://www.jewishgen.org/bohmor/TOWNS/Austria/meldezettel.htm

The LDS records for Vienna are growing by leaps and bounds and will
soon include all the vital records held at the IKG, Vienna.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Help locating Galician info in Vienna #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Judith Romney Wegner has confirmed her husband's great success in
finding his Galician roots through Vienna records and ended like
this: <Those interested might try contacting the Meldeamt
Registration Office] of the Wiener Stadt und Landesarchiv [Vienna
City Archives] at post@m08.magwien.gv.at >

My immediate reaction is - ***please do not*** unless you are
well-prepared! MA08 [the Wiener Stadt und Landesarchiv, housed in the
Gasometer] is very overworked and will not answer unless you have
specific address and name details preferably with dates - and these
must be after 1900 for a Meldeauskunft [see below].

The subject and methodology for getting the most out of the Vienna
records [for anyone - not only Galicians] effectively involves a
multipronged approach using many record sources in Vienna. It is
often a stepwise procedure, where one thing leads to another and you
get a genealogical jigsaw puzzle to solve. I use:

1. Address/telephone books housed in the archive
2. Two pre-1900 databases [if the family was already there, then you
get a full listing] - housed only in the archive
3. Cemetery/burial data - >from which you can get addresses -
obtainable >from the Israelitische Kultusgemeinde {IKG} and the
cemetery itself. The graves themselves often have vital clues too.
4. If there is a death, you can, in many cases, get the
Todfallsaufnahme [death registration/probate record] and a will -
often with much genealogical data inc. next of kin. NB: You need a
name, address and date of death to get this >from the archive.
5. Holocaust data with deportation addresses and post-war records of
people seeking compensation and relatives >from Doew.
6. Vital records - ie births, deaths and marriages if they occurred.
7. jri-pl for cross-checking - on line
8. Yad vashem data with POTs - on line
9. Asset files at the State archives - these can be very valuable.
10. Other data in the USA etc

If the family has been established in Vienna for a long time and
there are many vital records then the approach is different.
Galicians often arrived with ready-made families.

Once you have an address you can approach MAO8, as suggested by
Judith, but ***not before***. The MA08 will reply in German to you
with the Meldeauskunft ie details of the household registration
documents [Meldezettel] - these often have very important
genealogical data in them. Meldezettel pre-1900 were destroyed by
overzealous officials having a clearout. MA08 will not undertake
genealogical research - ie they will get the probate records [there
is a modest fee] for you and the Meldeauskunft [free] but no more.
Judith's husband may have been lucky some time ago with a
helpful/sympathetic archivist - but this would not happen today!

The Habsburg Empire was always known to be one of the most
bureacratic in the world - with thousands of civil servants and hence
there are oodles of records. I hope you are all now convinced that
what I wrote originally is correct. I did not give details of the
Galician families I investigated as I have not asked each of the
families for their permission. One project is on-going and we have
had quite a lot of success [thanks also to Renee Steinig for her help
with correlating Vienna records with US records] but sadly we have
not found any living descendants yet.

With Galicians, there is no guarantee that you will hit the jackpot,
but I have in many instances. If they just passed through and never
stayed long you may not find a trace. However, an old letter with a
home address and date may make all the difference to your research.
A confirmation with a jri-pl record is the icing on the cake.
Conversely, I know of births and marriages recorded on documents in
Vienna which cannot be found on Jri-pl.

Celia Male [U.K.]

For general advice see: http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/
and http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/ausguide.htm
and specifically Peter Lowe's excellent article on Meldezettel:
http://www.jewishgen.org/bohmor/TOWNS/Austria/meldezettel.htm

The LDS records for Vienna are growing by leaps and bounds and will
soon include all the vital records held at the IKG, Vienna.