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Re: The name Yale (Yale EPSTEIN) #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Michael Herzlich" <mherzlich@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:20060612203950.81876.qmail@web52305.mail.yahoo.com...

I am going over meeting minutes of a family
organization named the Yale EPSTEIN Family Circle. In
the minutes which start with the year 1935 it states
that membership is limited to direct descendants and
their spouses of Yale Epstein. My mother's birth
record is >from the area of Slutsk (Belarus) and based
upon what I have traced back so far Yale Epstein would
have had to have been born around 1810 or earlier. I
would consider the given name Yale to be unusual and
the minutes use traditional non americanized names for
their older generation.

Does anybody have any comments about the given named
Yale in the very early 19th century for someone most
likely in modern day Belarus.
You didn't state in the above whether Yale was a man or a woman!
It sounded like the Hebrew name Yael to me.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)


Request for look-up at the Family Records Centre in London, UK #general

Daniel Gee <danielgee@...>
 

Dear Genners,
If you are planning to visit the FRC in Islington, please could you look up
one birth reference for me.
I am immobile and can't make the journey myself, but I have the exact info,
so it should be straight-forward.
Please contact me directly if you are able to help and thank you, in
advance.
Regards,
Daniel Gleek in Hertfordshire


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The name Yale (Yale EPSTEIN) #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Michael Herzlich" <mherzlich@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:20060612203950.81876.qmail@web52305.mail.yahoo.com...

I am going over meeting minutes of a family
organization named the Yale EPSTEIN Family Circle. In
the minutes which start with the year 1935 it states
that membership is limited to direct descendants and
their spouses of Yale Epstein. My mother's birth
record is >from the area of Slutsk (Belarus) and based
upon what I have traced back so far Yale Epstein would
have had to have been born around 1810 or earlier. I
would consider the given name Yale to be unusual and
the minutes use traditional non americanized names for
their older generation.

Does anybody have any comments about the given named
Yale in the very early 19th century for someone most
likely in modern day Belarus.
You didn't state in the above whether Yale was a man or a woman!
It sounded like the Hebrew name Yael to me.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Request for look-up at the Family Records Centre in London, UK #general

Daniel Gee <danielgee@...>
 

Dear Genners,
If you are planning to visit the FRC in Islington, please could you look up
one birth reference for me.
I am immobile and can't make the journey myself, but I have the exact info,
so it should be straight-forward.
Please contact me directly if you are able to help and thank you, in
advance.
Regards,
Daniel Gleek in Hertfordshire


Origin of the First Krilowitzer JFPBC #general

Jerome Seligsohn <jselig1315@...>
 

I am in the process of organizing the papers of this
landsmanshaft at YIVO Archives and have conjectures
about its origin but have no certainty of its
correctness. There is no Krilowitzer in Where Once We
Walked. There is a Polish shtetl Krylov but this would
be rendered as the Krilover society. In an 1880 Polish
Gazateer there is mention of a tiny Shtetl,
Krilowicze,near Minsk, which fits the name but is so
tiny that it would appear not large enough to support
a Jewish community. The society's certificate of
incorporation lists Russia as its origin, which is not
very helpful as Russia , some 90 years ago, was a "fit
all" designation.
Are there some descendants out there who can be
helpful? Conjectionists would also be welcome.

Jerry Seligsohn
Volunteer Archivist
YIVO


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Origin of the First Krilowitzer JFPBC #general

Jerome Seligsohn <jselig1315@...>
 

I am in the process of organizing the papers of this
landsmanshaft at YIVO Archives and have conjectures
about its origin but have no certainty of its
correctness. There is no Krilowitzer in Where Once We
Walked. There is a Polish shtetl Krylov but this would
be rendered as the Krilover society. In an 1880 Polish
Gazateer there is mention of a tiny Shtetl,
Krilowicze,near Minsk, which fits the name but is so
tiny that it would appear not large enough to support
a Jewish community. The society's certificate of
incorporation lists Russia as its origin, which is not
very helpful as Russia , some 90 years ago, was a "fit
all" designation.
Are there some descendants out there who can be
helpful? Conjectionists would also be welcome.

Jerry Seligsohn
Volunteer Archivist
YIVO


June Meeting of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Orlando (JGSGO) Monday, June 19th at 7:00 PM #general

Doris Frank <dofrank@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Orlando will hold its June
meeting on Monday, June 19th at 7:00 PM in the All Purpose Room of
Congregation of Reform Judaism, 928 Malone Dr., Orlando.

Program: "Report of the Recent Trip to Eastern Europe to Discover My
Ancestors,"
Presented by Larry Morrell.

Open to all interested in genealogy. For info and membership
inquiries:Doris , 407-323-9728.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen June Meeting of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Orlando (JGSGO) Monday, June 19th at 7:00 PM #general

Doris Frank <dofrank@...>
 

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Orlando will hold its June
meeting on Monday, June 19th at 7:00 PM in the All Purpose Room of
Congregation of Reform Judaism, 928 Malone Dr., Orlando.

Program: "Report of the Recent Trip to Eastern Europe to Discover My
Ancestors,"
Presented by Larry Morrell.

Open to all interested in genealogy. For info and membership
inquiries:Doris , 407-323-9728.


Immigration puzzle: WEINMAN #ukraine

Teresa Snow Galloway <trg1@...>
 

Wondering if anyone can help me with a puzzle over my ggf's immigration.

The known facts:
Name: Abraham WEINMAN (tombstone reads "Avraham Zalman son of Zerach")
Born: 1884 or 1885 in Kolki, Volhynia gub. (wife's naturalization papers say
1885, tombstone says 1884)
1910 census says he immigrated in 1905
1920 census claims 1904.
Family lore says he came for the 1904 World's Fair in St. Louis.

For years I had assumed that I had located his correct immigration manifest.
I had found an Ellis Island manifest for:

Abraham Solomon WEINMAN
Last residence: Wolina
Age 21, married.
Arriving January 15, 1905 on the S. S. New York

These details fit very well with the facts outlined above.

However, I recently found a copy of his Declaration of Intention to
Naturalize, and the information given there is in slight conflict with the
above (I know that this Declaration was definitely that of my ggf based on
the current address listed):

Abraham WEINMAN
born: 1883 in Lutsk (this is a larger city very close to Kolki)
arrived in NYC in April 1904 on the "America"

Thing is, I looked all through the EIDB using all of Steve Morse's tools,
and cannot find any passenger ship with that name or a similar name arriving
anytime close to April of 1904. Further, I can find no other Abraham
WEINMANs (or variants thereof) in the EIDB whose details fit as well as the
one I already found.

I know that information provided to census takers and the like were not
always completely accurate, and I didn't expect to find a "perfect" match.
Yet it is weird to me that my ggf would say he arrived in April 1904 on the
"America" if he actually arrived in January 1905 on the "New York". Yet if
he actually arrived in spring of 1904, it would fit in better with the
family lore about the World's Fair.

Does anyone have any suggestions for reconciling these two conflicting
reports? Should I assume that the manifest I originally found is not his
after all? Or is there another explaination?

Please respond privately, unless the information is of general interest.

Thanks,

Teresa Galloway
Ithaca, NY, USA
trg1@cornell.edu

Researching:
(In Lithuania)
MISCHLEWSKY (later MISSLER) >from Seirijai
KARABOWSKY (later COFFMAN, CARABO and COHEN) >from Seirijai
YABLON (by marriage) >from Suwalki Gub.
possibly STALINSKY >from the Suwalki Gub.

(In Ukraine)
WEINMAN >from Lutsk, Kolki and Zofyuvka (Trochinbrod)
ZALMAN >from Kolki
WALDMAN >from Lutsk
possibly BARLOWSKY >from Kolki or Lutsk


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Immigration puzzle: WEINMAN #ukraine

Teresa Snow Galloway <trg1@...>
 

Wondering if anyone can help me with a puzzle over my ggf's immigration.

The known facts:
Name: Abraham WEINMAN (tombstone reads "Avraham Zalman son of Zerach")
Born: 1884 or 1885 in Kolki, Volhynia gub. (wife's naturalization papers say
1885, tombstone says 1884)
1910 census says he immigrated in 1905
1920 census claims 1904.
Family lore says he came for the 1904 World's Fair in St. Louis.

For years I had assumed that I had located his correct immigration manifest.
I had found an Ellis Island manifest for:

Abraham Solomon WEINMAN
Last residence: Wolina
Age 21, married.
Arriving January 15, 1905 on the S. S. New York

These details fit very well with the facts outlined above.

However, I recently found a copy of his Declaration of Intention to
Naturalize, and the information given there is in slight conflict with the
above (I know that this Declaration was definitely that of my ggf based on
the current address listed):

Abraham WEINMAN
born: 1883 in Lutsk (this is a larger city very close to Kolki)
arrived in NYC in April 1904 on the "America"

Thing is, I looked all through the EIDB using all of Steve Morse's tools,
and cannot find any passenger ship with that name or a similar name arriving
anytime close to April of 1904. Further, I can find no other Abraham
WEINMANs (or variants thereof) in the EIDB whose details fit as well as the
one I already found.

I know that information provided to census takers and the like were not
always completely accurate, and I didn't expect to find a "perfect" match.
Yet it is weird to me that my ggf would say he arrived in April 1904 on the
"America" if he actually arrived in January 1905 on the "New York". Yet if
he actually arrived in spring of 1904, it would fit in better with the
family lore about the World's Fair.

Does anyone have any suggestions for reconciling these two conflicting
reports? Should I assume that the manifest I originally found is not his
after all? Or is there another explaination?

Please respond privately, unless the information is of general interest.

Thanks,

Teresa Galloway
Ithaca, NY, USA
trg1@cornell.edu

Researching:
(In Lithuania)
MISCHLEWSKY (later MISSLER) >from Seirijai
KARABOWSKY (later COFFMAN, CARABO and COHEN) >from Seirijai
YABLON (by marriage) >from Suwalki Gub.
possibly STALINSKY >from the Suwalki Gub.

(In Ukraine)
WEINMAN >from Lutsk, Kolki and Zofyuvka (Trochinbrod)
ZALMAN >from Kolki
WALDMAN >from Lutsk
possibly BARLOWSKY >from Kolki or Lutsk


Re: Finding original surnames #unitedkingdom

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 6/14/2006 2:44:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
zoeys_mom@yahoo.com writes:

<< The family name in the UK was GLASSMAN (as far as I
know, this was not an occupational name, as my ggg-GF
was a butcher, not a glass blower). They came >from the
shetl of Gaisin (currently in Ukraine) in or around
1895. The progenitors were Dovid & Hadas >>

==GLASSMAN is not necessarily a blower of glass but may be a glass installer
or even a mirror maker. Just because he was a butcher in England doesn't
define his earlier profession or that of his father.

==The name could have a geographical origin, not of the town where the
person first used the name but >from a town where the person's family originated.

==How is Gaisin the town called in Yiddish and in Ukrainian? Perhaps,
originally, the name was called Glaissman? or Glatzman (bald man).

==Remember, there is no H in the Cyrillic alphabet. The H gets replaced with
a G. So Glassman may once have been Halsmann (Man with the throat) or
Holzmann (lumber jack, lumber dealer, carpenter, cabinet maker)-

Michael Bernet, New York


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: Finding original surnames #unitedkingdom

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 6/14/2006 2:44:51 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
zoeys_mom@yahoo.com writes:

<< The family name in the UK was GLASSMAN (as far as I
know, this was not an occupational name, as my ggg-GF
was a butcher, not a glass blower). They came >from the
shetl of Gaisin (currently in Ukraine) in or around
1895. The progenitors were Dovid & Hadas >>

==GLASSMAN is not necessarily a blower of glass but may be a glass installer
or even a mirror maker. Just because he was a butcher in England doesn't
define his earlier profession or that of his father.

==The name could have a geographical origin, not of the town where the
person first used the name but >from a town where the person's family originated.

==How is Gaisin the town called in Yiddish and in Ukrainian? Perhaps,
originally, the name was called Glaissman? or Glatzman (bald man).

==Remember, there is no H in the Cyrillic alphabet. The H gets replaced with
a G. So Glassman may once have been Halsmann (Man with the throat) or
Holzmann (lumber jack, lumber dealer, carpenter, cabinet maker)-

Michael Bernet, New York


Polish Army military records #poland

Fay Bussgang <fbussgang@...>
 

For military records for those who served in the Polish Army, contact:

Centralne Archiwum Wojskowe, (Central Military Archive),
ul. Czerwonych Beret=F3w bl. 124,
00-910 Warszawa-Rembert=F3w.
Tel. 48/22/681-32-02,
Fax 681-46-37.
<www.caw.wp.mil.pl/>

It would be best if you get someone to write the letter for you in
Polish. Be sure to explain your relationship to the person about whom
you are inquiring.

Fay Bussgang
Lexington, MA

On Jun 14, 2006, at 1:05 AM, JRI-Poland digest wrote:

Subject: Moses Zolty/ Mosiek Zolty
From: "franck " <franck.d-almeida@wanadoo.fr>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:23:36 +0200
X-Message-Number: 1


JRI Poland #Poland Polish Army military records #poland

Fay Bussgang <fbussgang@...>
 

For military records for those who served in the Polish Army, contact:

Centralne Archiwum Wojskowe, (Central Military Archive),
ul. Czerwonych Beret=F3w bl. 124,
00-910 Warszawa-Rembert=F3w.
Tel. 48/22/681-32-02,
Fax 681-46-37.
<www.caw.wp.mil.pl/>

It would be best if you get someone to write the letter for you in
Polish. Be sure to explain your relationship to the person about whom
you are inquiring.

Fay Bussgang
Lexington, MA

On Jun 14, 2006, at 1:05 AM, JRI-Poland digest wrote:

Subject: Moses Zolty/ Mosiek Zolty
From: "franck " <franck.d-almeida@wanadoo.fr>
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 11:23:36 +0200
X-Message-Number: 1


search BIEGELEISEN, TEITELBAUM, FREYER, REINFELD from JAROSLAW #poland

Matthieu ANDRIVEAU <matthieu.andriveau@...>
 

Hello, i am looking for :


BIEGELEISEN family >from RZESZAW (Poland) since 1895

TEITELBAUM family >from JAROSLAW (Poland) since 1895

FREYER family >from JAROSLAW (Poland) since 1880

REINFELD family >from ALESZYCE (Poland) since 1880

If you have some informations

I have some for all these families

Thanks

Caroline

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JRI Poland #Poland search BIEGELEISEN, TEITELBAUM, FREYER, REINFELD from JAROSLAW #poland

Matthieu ANDRIVEAU <matthieu.andriveau@...>
 

Hello, i am looking for :


BIEGELEISEN family >from RZESZAW (Poland) since 1895

TEITELBAUM family >from JAROSLAW (Poland) since 1895

FREYER family >from JAROSLAW (Poland) since 1880

REINFELD family >from ALESZYCE (Poland) since 1880

If you have some informations

I have some for all these families

Thanks

Caroline

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Finding original surnames #unitedkingdom

Dayna <zoeys_mom@...>
 

I must have missed the thread where Mr. Rich posted
his request for finding his original family surname,
but like the previous poster, I'm inspired by Mr.
Rich's success and hoping for a little of my own.

I have had excellent luck finding original surnames
for my relatives who immigrated to the US by searching
ship manifests with a fine-toothed comb, but no luck
at all with one in particular, and that is the part of
my family who immigrated to the UK.

I've been told that ship manifests >from eastern Europe
to the UK are not in existence, so as this has been my
sole method of finding original surnames in the US, I
wonder what my options are in the UK.

The family name in the UK was GLASSMAN (as far as I
know, this was not an occupational name, as my ggg-GF
was a butcher, not a glass blower). They came >from the
shetl of Gaisin (currently in Ukraine) in or around
1895. The progenitors were Dovid & Hadas (David & Ada)
and they came with their children Abram and Sarah, and
also possibly with granddaughters Yetta & Baila
HOCHMAN (or HOFFMAN).

Where to begin?

Dayna Chalif
CA. USA


District Coordinators Appointed #lithuania

Olga Zabludoff <ozabludoff@...>
 

The LitvakSIG District Research Groups Project is pleased to announce the
following individuals have accepted appointments as District Coordinators:

Sam Aaron of London will serve as Coordinator of the Raseiniai Uyezd Group
(RUG). Sam had formerly held this position until early 2005. We welcome him
back and look forward to a long tenure.

Rabbi Ben-Zion Saydman of California has assumed the Kaunas Uyezd Group
leadership. He replaces Ada Green who served as Coordinator of the KUG for
more than five years.

Eden Joachim of New York succeeds Joel Ratner as Coordinator of the Vilnius
Uyezd Group. Joel is now devoting his time to heading the LitvakSIG Vital
Records Translation Project.

The new District Coordinators look forward to working with you and welcome
hearing >from interested researchers. They may be contacted by email:

Sam Aaron sa@cumberland6.demon.co.uk
Eden Joachim esjoachim@optonline.net
Ben-Zion Saydman ravbenzi@cox.net

The District Research Groups Project expresses deep gratitude to those who
have served in coordinator positions and welcomes the new leaders with
appreciation for volunteering their time and talent.

Olga Zabludoff and Jose Gutstein
District Research Groups Project


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Finding original surnames #unitedkingdom

Dayna <zoeys_mom@...>
 

I must have missed the thread where Mr. Rich posted
his request for finding his original family surname,
but like the previous poster, I'm inspired by Mr.
Rich's success and hoping for a little of my own.

I have had excellent luck finding original surnames
for my relatives who immigrated to the US by searching
ship manifests with a fine-toothed comb, but no luck
at all with one in particular, and that is the part of
my family who immigrated to the UK.

I've been told that ship manifests >from eastern Europe
to the UK are not in existence, so as this has been my
sole method of finding original surnames in the US, I
wonder what my options are in the UK.

The family name in the UK was GLASSMAN (as far as I
know, this was not an occupational name, as my ggg-GF
was a butcher, not a glass blower). They came >from the
shetl of Gaisin (currently in Ukraine) in or around
1895. The progenitors were Dovid & Hadas (David & Ada)
and they came with their children Abram and Sarah, and
also possibly with granddaughters Yetta & Baila
HOCHMAN (or HOFFMAN).

Where to begin?

Dayna Chalif
CA. USA


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania District Coordinators Appointed #lithuania

Olga Zabludoff <ozabludoff@...>
 

The LitvakSIG District Research Groups Project is pleased to announce the
following individuals have accepted appointments as District Coordinators:

Sam Aaron of London will serve as Coordinator of the Raseiniai Uyezd Group
(RUG). Sam had formerly held this position until early 2005. We welcome him
back and look forward to a long tenure.

Rabbi Ben-Zion Saydman of California has assumed the Kaunas Uyezd Group
leadership. He replaces Ada Green who served as Coordinator of the KUG for
more than five years.

Eden Joachim of New York succeeds Joel Ratner as Coordinator of the Vilnius
Uyezd Group. Joel is now devoting his time to heading the LitvakSIG Vital
Records Translation Project.

The new District Coordinators look forward to working with you and welcome
hearing >from interested researchers. They may be contacted by email:

Sam Aaron sa@cumberland6.demon.co.uk
Eden Joachim esjoachim@optonline.net
Ben-Zion Saydman ravbenzi@cox.net

The District Research Groups Project expresses deep gratitude to those who
have served in coordinator positions and welcomes the new leaders with
appreciation for volunteering their time and talent.

Olga Zabludoff and Jose Gutstein
District Research Groups Project