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Wechow #lithuania

Suzan & Ron Wynne <srwynne@...>
 

I hope that someone out there can advise me on a long standing problem with
identifying the correct town of origin for my father-in-law's family. Both
his parents emigrated as single people to London in about 1885-1888. They
married in London and in the 1891 census, they appeared with a number of
relatives on the same street. Their country of origin was clearly Russia.

The husband Simon Wine (AKA Whine) put down the town of "Wechow" for him and
his wife, Deborah nee Rosenzweig. Deborah's brothers and sisters put down
Kovno. Simon's sister just reported Russia.

There was, of course, no town of "Wechow" in Kovno Gubernia, or Vilna Gub
for that matter. Over the years I have played with the sound, determined
where a cabinetmaker might have come from, and tried using the 1901 English
census to find a clue. All to no avail. This week I decided to see what
would pop up in the All-Lithuania database. Alas, that was not productive
either. The only clue that I have is that Simon's apparent Whine cousin of
the same age and also a cabinetmaker, came >from Vilna, according to his
naturalization.

There is a town Vileika just north of the city and another Vileyka somewhat
east of the city. I know that Wechow wouldn't fit either...I'm just grasping
at straws. Anyone have any ideas?

Suzan Wynne
Kensington, Maryland
srwynne@erols.com


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Wechow #lithuania

Suzan & Ron Wynne <srwynne@...>
 

I hope that someone out there can advise me on a long standing problem with
identifying the correct town of origin for my father-in-law's family. Both
his parents emigrated as single people to London in about 1885-1888. They
married in London and in the 1891 census, they appeared with a number of
relatives on the same street. Their country of origin was clearly Russia.

The husband Simon Wine (AKA Whine) put down the town of "Wechow" for him and
his wife, Deborah nee Rosenzweig. Deborah's brothers and sisters put down
Kovno. Simon's sister just reported Russia.

There was, of course, no town of "Wechow" in Kovno Gubernia, or Vilna Gub
for that matter. Over the years I have played with the sound, determined
where a cabinetmaker might have come from, and tried using the 1901 English
census to find a clue. All to no avail. This week I decided to see what
would pop up in the All-Lithuania database. Alas, that was not productive
either. The only clue that I have is that Simon's apparent Whine cousin of
the same age and also a cabinetmaker, came >from Vilna, according to his
naturalization.

There is a town Vileika just north of the city and another Vileyka somewhat
east of the city. I know that Wechow wouldn't fit either...I'm just grasping
at straws. Anyone have any ideas?

Suzan Wynne
Kensington, Maryland
srwynne@erols.com


Programmer with VB skills needed for creation of a macro #lithuania

Joel Ratner
 

The LitvakSIG Vital Records Translation project is in need of a programmer
to write a small macro to do some data manipulation in Excel spreadsheets.
Anyone with programming skills with a little time to donate should contact
me privately at joelrat1@hotmail.com .


Joel Ratner


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Programmer with VB skills needed for creation of a macro #lithuania

Joel Ratner
 

The LitvakSIG Vital Records Translation project is in need of a programmer
to write a small macro to do some data manipulation in Excel spreadsheets.
Anyone with programming skills with a little time to donate should contact
me privately at joelrat1@hotmail.com .


Joel Ratner


Family Search #hungary

John J Kovacs <j.kovacs@...>
 

Searching for Kovacs/Steiner Family: Pal Kovacs born
in Budapest in 1904, mother's name Szerena Steiner.
Pal married Ilona Steiner, Born in Debrecen in 1911.
Any information about this family will be welcome.
John (Janos) Kovacs
Bloomfield, MI
(Currently in Budapest)


Hungary SIG #Hungary Family Search #hungary

John J Kovacs <j.kovacs@...>
 

Searching for Kovacs/Steiner Family: Pal Kovacs born
in Budapest in 1904, mother's name Szerena Steiner.
Pal married Ilona Steiner, Born in Debrecen in 1911.
Any information about this family will be welcome.
John (Janos) Kovacs
Bloomfield, MI
(Currently in Budapest)


New online Budapest Resource #hungary

Eloedfamily@...
 

Here is a little more on this subject after reading a couple of postings.

The first part I submitted a few days ago, but with the second part I had
problems. It was rejected 2 times, reason given: no attachments allowed. There
have been none. So here it is again:
==========================
1;
I have visited the site, and find it is a goldmine if you speak and read
Hungarian.

I found several documents I am interested in. I would have my sister in
Budapest visit personally to review the documents before copying.

I wrote an e-mail requesting detailed info and pricing. I received a reply
within 12 hours >from Ms. Bea Baros --- see copy following --- informing me
that copies can be obtained at 45. Forints per page (approx $ .25)
Assuming that the document, subject of your search -- does not fall under
any restrictions, it may be freely researched.
I did not ask about mail-ordering documents, as it appears to me the
documents may not be viewed on line to decide if I am interested, and I have my
sister working with me anyway.

Her response and e-mail:

Tisztelt Uram!

Megkerese'se're va'laszolva tudnom kellene, hogy pontosan milyen iratot
szeretne megtekinteni. Fe'nyma'sola'si di'j: 45 Ft /oldal "A" 4-es oldal
esete'ben. Amennyiben a ke'rt irat nem esik kutata'si korla'toza's ala', u'gy
szabadon kutathato'.

U:dvo:zlettel: Baros Bea

----- Original Message -----
From: Eloedfamily@aol.com
To: bfl@bparchiv.hu
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:20 PM
Subject: Erdeklodes


While I agree in general with Tom, always keep in mind a few more things if
you use the "Simple Search" version.

The system is broken down into searchable categories for the "advanced
search".

This means, you can search by Last name, First name, City, Street,
Occupation and so on.

However, if you search in the "simple search" the system will ignore
categories, and return results if the search term is found in any category.

Example: The not too rare Last name: Kertesz.
If you enter it in the simple search, it may return several hundred results
with Kertesz as a name, (either Last or first) and several hundred more with
Kertesz the street name of an occurrence or residence or other address
involved in the document, or Kertesz as an occupation as a gardener, and no
relation to anyone named Kertesz.

It is for these instances that you use the "Advanced Search", and exactly
define in what category you are searching for the specific word.

The system is so far only partially --- but continually expanding ---
encompassing certain types of documents. Such as Divorce, Estate, Wills, Buy-sell
agreements, and so on.

In the "advanced search" you can define the type of document you are
interested in.

Estate documents contain death dates, wills the dates it was written (and
subject being still alive) with definition of heirs, divorce and marriage
announcements have maiden names and occasionally parents names and so on.

In your search,
Step 1 will give you a listing with items that fulfill your search criteria.
Step 2, clicking at the end of the line that interests you, will return an
abstract summary of the document.
At this point you have to decide, wether you want to continue with this
document, and if so, obtain a personal reading through someone in Hungary, or
obtain a copy of the document.

===================
3;

My next simple project will be a Hungarian / English translation of what the
site offers, how to use it, the major terms as used in the
document-definitions etc. I will have this on my web site within a couple days, in .pdf format
with all Hungarian accent marks properly displayed. For those who do not yet
have the Free Acrobat (.pdf) reader, it is downloadable >from the Internet.

I will keep you posted

Leslie Eloed
California, USA


Hungary SIG #Hungary New online Budapest Resource #hungary

Eloedfamily@...
 

Here is a little more on this subject after reading a couple of postings.

The first part I submitted a few days ago, but with the second part I had
problems. It was rejected 2 times, reason given: no attachments allowed. There
have been none. So here it is again:
==========================
1;
I have visited the site, and find it is a goldmine if you speak and read
Hungarian.

I found several documents I am interested in. I would have my sister in
Budapest visit personally to review the documents before copying.

I wrote an e-mail requesting detailed info and pricing. I received a reply
within 12 hours >from Ms. Bea Baros --- see copy following --- informing me
that copies can be obtained at 45. Forints per page (approx $ .25)
Assuming that the document, subject of your search -- does not fall under
any restrictions, it may be freely researched.
I did not ask about mail-ordering documents, as it appears to me the
documents may not be viewed on line to decide if I am interested, and I have my
sister working with me anyway.

Her response and e-mail:

Tisztelt Uram!

Megkerese'se're va'laszolva tudnom kellene, hogy pontosan milyen iratot
szeretne megtekinteni. Fe'nyma'sola'si di'j: 45 Ft /oldal "A" 4-es oldal
esete'ben. Amennyiben a ke'rt irat nem esik kutata'si korla'toza's ala', u'gy
szabadon kutathato'.

U:dvo:zlettel: Baros Bea

----- Original Message -----
From: Eloedfamily@aol.com
To: bfl@bparchiv.hu
Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 11:20 PM
Subject: Erdeklodes


While I agree in general with Tom, always keep in mind a few more things if
you use the "Simple Search" version.

The system is broken down into searchable categories for the "advanced
search".

This means, you can search by Last name, First name, City, Street,
Occupation and so on.

However, if you search in the "simple search" the system will ignore
categories, and return results if the search term is found in any category.

Example: The not too rare Last name: Kertesz.
If you enter it in the simple search, it may return several hundred results
with Kertesz as a name, (either Last or first) and several hundred more with
Kertesz the street name of an occurrence or residence or other address
involved in the document, or Kertesz as an occupation as a gardener, and no
relation to anyone named Kertesz.

It is for these instances that you use the "Advanced Search", and exactly
define in what category you are searching for the specific word.

The system is so far only partially --- but continually expanding ---
encompassing certain types of documents. Such as Divorce, Estate, Wills, Buy-sell
agreements, and so on.

In the "advanced search" you can define the type of document you are
interested in.

Estate documents contain death dates, wills the dates it was written (and
subject being still alive) with definition of heirs, divorce and marriage
announcements have maiden names and occasionally parents names and so on.

In your search,
Step 1 will give you a listing with items that fulfill your search criteria.
Step 2, clicking at the end of the line that interests you, will return an
abstract summary of the document.
At this point you have to decide, wether you want to continue with this
document, and if so, obtain a personal reading through someone in Hungary, or
obtain a copy of the document.

===================
3;

My next simple project will be a Hungarian / English translation of what the
site offers, how to use it, the major terms as used in the
document-definitions etc. I will have this on my web site within a couple days, in .pdf format
with all Hungarian accent marks properly displayed. For those who do not yet
have the Free Acrobat (.pdf) reader, it is downloadable >from the Internet.

I will keep you posted

Leslie Eloed
California, USA


Need help with town name #romania

Susanna Vendel <svendel@...>
 

"Vosh-con". It could also begin for an "F".

It sounds like Pascani (as Pashcani) or Focsani (as Focshani) for me.

Susanna Vendel
Stockholm


Romania SIG #Romania Need help with town name #romania

Susanna Vendel <svendel@...>
 

"Vosh-con". It could also begin for an "F".

It sounds like Pascani (as Pashcani) or Focsani (as Focshani) for me.

Susanna Vendel
Stockholm


Repeating the Need for Researcher in the State of Brandenburg #germany

Pete Vanlaw <pvan@...>
 

Dear Genners,
Please bear with my need to repeat this message, but my computer went
down just as this message was posted, losing any replies:

I'm looking for a researcher, historian or archivist in the state
Brandenburg, who can search records for the cities of Kyritz ost
Prignitz and Wittstock. I'm specifically looking for relatives of my
ggf, Isidor REHFISCH, and his wife, Ernestine FUCHS. Regards,

Pete Vanlaw Studio City, CA <pvan@western-branch.com> [Private replies only]


German SIG #Germany Repeating the Need for Researcher in the State of Brandenburg #germany

Pete Vanlaw <pvan@...>
 

Dear Genners,
Please bear with my need to repeat this message, but my computer went
down just as this message was posted, losing any replies:

I'm looking for a researcher, historian or archivist in the state
Brandenburg, who can search records for the cities of Kyritz ost
Prignitz and Wittstock. I'm specifically looking for relatives of my
ggf, Isidor REHFISCH, and his wife, Ernestine FUCHS. Regards,

Pete Vanlaw Studio City, CA <pvan@western-branch.com> [Private replies only]


EPSTEIN Family Y-DNA Study #germany

Itzhak Epstein
 

Several EPSTEINs have joined in a Family Tree DNA surname project.
Painless mouth swab genetic testing procedures are being used as a promising
tool for breaking through our genealogical brick walls. It might help you
to greatly expand your family tree, and may also help our surname project.

To the best of our knowledge, the EPPSTEINs emerged in Frankfurt am Main
in the early 15th century. By the mid 17th century we were present in Poland.
It is assumed, but unproven, that my Polish EPSTEIN ancestors are the
decedents of Yaakov (Koppleman) and Havah (Hefe) EPPSTEIN of Frankfurt.
There may also be several old German Jewish EPPSTEIN families, and some
German EPPSTEINs probably adopted different surnames. Y-DNA testing
will hopefully clarify the uncertainties.

We have identified members of one paternal lineage that has borne the
Epstein surname for several centuries. There are hints of another old line.
Most of the project's current members, however, are patrilineally unrelated
to each other. In addition, most of us have discovered patrilineal
relationships to men whose surnames are not EPSTEIN. Most of us trace
our ancestry to eastern Europe, and only two to Germany.

We are working on identifying the various branches of our principal cluster,
on exploring additional clusters, and on connecting our unrelated
members to cousins. To accomplish these goals and to create as broad
a search as possible, we need more male Epsteins to contribute a
cheek swab as a DNA sample. If you are female EPSTEIN or an EPSTEIN
through female ancestors, a sample >from an EPSTEIN male relative can
represent your family in the test. If you are not an EPSTEIN, please share
this message with EPSTEINs who may want to participate in this project.

[MODERATOR NOTE: The genetic testing suggested here is not free of charge.
I don't know how much the testing costs. Details must be obtained privately.]

To join, [you might prefer ] The basic, and most affordable, twelve marker test
which will indicate to whom you are probably related.

The more advanced tests could help to identify
closer and more certain relationships. You can start with the 12 marker test
and add to it at a later date, using the same sample.

If you have any questions, please contact Marsha Epstein, our project's
volunteer administrator at mailto:epsteindna_admin@earthlink.net

Itzhak Epstein New York, NY mailto:iegen@earthlink.net


German SIG #Germany EPSTEIN Family Y-DNA Study #germany

Itzhak Epstein
 

Several EPSTEINs have joined in a Family Tree DNA surname project.
Painless mouth swab genetic testing procedures are being used as a promising
tool for breaking through our genealogical brick walls. It might help you
to greatly expand your family tree, and may also help our surname project.

To the best of our knowledge, the EPPSTEINs emerged in Frankfurt am Main
in the early 15th century. By the mid 17th century we were present in Poland.
It is assumed, but unproven, that my Polish EPSTEIN ancestors are the
decedents of Yaakov (Koppleman) and Havah (Hefe) EPPSTEIN of Frankfurt.
There may also be several old German Jewish EPPSTEIN families, and some
German EPPSTEINs probably adopted different surnames. Y-DNA testing
will hopefully clarify the uncertainties.

We have identified members of one paternal lineage that has borne the
Epstein surname for several centuries. There are hints of another old line.
Most of the project's current members, however, are patrilineally unrelated
to each other. In addition, most of us have discovered patrilineal
relationships to men whose surnames are not EPSTEIN. Most of us trace
our ancestry to eastern Europe, and only two to Germany.

We are working on identifying the various branches of our principal cluster,
on exploring additional clusters, and on connecting our unrelated
members to cousins. To accomplish these goals and to create as broad
a search as possible, we need more male Epsteins to contribute a
cheek swab as a DNA sample. If you are female EPSTEIN or an EPSTEIN
through female ancestors, a sample >from an EPSTEIN male relative can
represent your family in the test. If you are not an EPSTEIN, please share
this message with EPSTEINs who may want to participate in this project.

[MODERATOR NOTE: The genetic testing suggested here is not free of charge.
I don't know how much the testing costs. Details must be obtained privately.]

To join, [you might prefer ] The basic, and most affordable, twelve marker test
which will indicate to whom you are probably related.

The more advanced tests could help to identify
closer and more certain relationships. You can start with the 12 marker test
and add to it at a later date, using the same sample.

If you have any questions, please contact Marsha Epstein, our project's
volunteer administrator at mailto:epsteindna_admin@earthlink.net

Itzhak Epstein New York, NY mailto:iegen@earthlink.net


Meaning of a name #germany

Susan Edel
 

Can anyone please help me with the name Bune or Bunle. I have found it on
my great grandfather's sister's birth certificate, but have also found the
name Josephine on a Page of Testimony >from Yad Vashem for the same person.
Are the two names connected? Many thanks,

Susan EDEL, Petach Tikva, Israel <susan@deldent.com>


German SIG #Germany Meaning of a name #germany

Susan Edel
 

Can anyone please help me with the name Bune or Bunle. I have found it on
my great grandfather's sister's birth certificate, but have also found the
name Josephine on a Page of Testimony >from Yad Vashem for the same person.
Are the two names connected? Many thanks,

Susan EDEL, Petach Tikva, Israel <susan@deldent.com>


HIRSCH / ETTLINGER Karlsruhe, Germany Family. #germany

Phyllis Durra <meldrum@...>
 

Dear GerSiggers,
Researching my Karlsruhe, Germany Family:
HIRSCH - VEIST - MENDEL - ETTLINGER - MAYER -
REUTLINGER - LEVY - BERNEIS - FEDER - BRAUN -

Emanuel HIRSCH b +/-1800 [ Schneidermeister ]
married [ 17.5.1835 ] Jette ETTLINGER d +/-1880 Children:
Bernhardt HIRSCH married Sophie REUTLINGER
Joseph HIRSCH married Caroline ETTLINGER
Fanni HIRSCH married Isaac BERNEIS
Sophie HIRSCH married Ralf FEDER
Jacob HIRSCH married Auguste .......?
Sigmund HIRSCH married Selma BRAUN
Nathan HIRSCH Sara HIRSCH ]

Emanuel HIRSCH's parents: M. HIRSCH married Sara MENDEL
Emanuel HIRSCH's step-father: Joseph HIRSCH married Sara VEIST

Jette ETTLINGER's parents: Bernhard ETTLINGER married Theresa LEVY
Jette ETTLINGER's sister: Amalie ETTLINGER married +/- 1830 Edmund MAYER

Kindly assist me with further information please. Thank you.

Ernest Durra. Cape Town. South Africa. Email: meldrum@absamail.co.za


German SIG #Germany HIRSCH / ETTLINGER Karlsruhe, Germany Family. #germany

Phyllis Durra <meldrum@...>
 

Dear GerSiggers,
Researching my Karlsruhe, Germany Family:
HIRSCH - VEIST - MENDEL - ETTLINGER - MAYER -
REUTLINGER - LEVY - BERNEIS - FEDER - BRAUN -

Emanuel HIRSCH b +/-1800 [ Schneidermeister ]
married [ 17.5.1835 ] Jette ETTLINGER d +/-1880 Children:
Bernhardt HIRSCH married Sophie REUTLINGER
Joseph HIRSCH married Caroline ETTLINGER
Fanni HIRSCH married Isaac BERNEIS
Sophie HIRSCH married Ralf FEDER
Jacob HIRSCH married Auguste .......?
Sigmund HIRSCH married Selma BRAUN
Nathan HIRSCH Sara HIRSCH ]

Emanuel HIRSCH's parents: M. HIRSCH married Sara MENDEL
Emanuel HIRSCH's step-father: Joseph HIRSCH married Sara VEIST

Jette ETTLINGER's parents: Bernhard ETTLINGER married Theresa LEVY
Jette ETTLINGER's sister: Amalie ETTLINGER married +/- 1830 Edmund MAYER

Kindly assist me with further information please. Thank you.

Ernest Durra. Cape Town. South Africa. Email: meldrum@absamail.co.za


Obituary in Gothic-Print German #germany

Daniel Sachs <sachsmd@...>
 

My greatgrandfather was LOUIS LEWIN (1850-1929),
noted German-Jewish pharmacologist and toxicologist.
I am trying to translate his obituary, published in a
Berlin newspaper. Two problems: I am not a skilled
reader of German and, to compound the matter, the
article is written in gothic print, which also gives me trouble.

Is there any Gersigger, skilled in these areas, who
would be willing to assist me, out of the goodness of
her/his heart? It would be much appreciated.

Please contact me privately, at sachsmd@yahoo.com. Daniel Sachs


German SIG #Germany Obituary in Gothic-Print German #germany

Daniel Sachs <sachsmd@...>
 

My greatgrandfather was LOUIS LEWIN (1850-1929),
noted German-Jewish pharmacologist and toxicologist.
I am trying to translate his obituary, published in a
Berlin newspaper. Two problems: I am not a skilled
reader of German and, to compound the matter, the
article is written in gothic print, which also gives me trouble.

Is there any Gersigger, skilled in these areas, who
would be willing to assist me, out of the goodness of
her/his heart? It would be much appreciated.

Please contact me privately, at sachsmd@yahoo.com. Daniel Sachs