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Suvalk, Russia #general

Richie Small <Richard_Small45@...>
 

I was recently able to identify the town, Suvalk, Russia, where my
Grandmother and her siblings were born. Russia owned this area at the time
of their births, but I believe it is located today in the northeastern part
of Poland. I know each of their names, year of birth, and year of
immigration to America. I have all the information I need about them after
they arrived in America. If possible, I would like to find out more about
them and prior generations in Eastern Europe. Can you give me any advice on
how I should proceed?
Richard Small

MODERATOR NOTE: Here are a few places to learn more:
The Suwalk-Lomza Interest Group: http://www.jewishgen.org/SuwalkLomza/
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland: http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/
JewishGen InfoFiles (especially the Poland and Russian Empire categories):
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Suvalk, Russia #general

Richie Small <Richard_Small45@...>
 

I was recently able to identify the town, Suvalk, Russia, where my
Grandmother and her siblings were born. Russia owned this area at the time
of their births, but I believe it is located today in the northeastern part
of Poland. I know each of their names, year of birth, and year of
immigration to America. I have all the information I need about them after
they arrived in America. If possible, I would like to find out more about
them and prior generations in Eastern Europe. Can you give me any advice on
how I should proceed?
Richard Small

MODERATOR NOTE: Here are a few places to learn more:
The Suwalk-Lomza Interest Group: http://www.jewishgen.org/SuwalkLomza/
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland: http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/
JewishGen InfoFiles (especially the Poland and Russian Empire categories):
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/


family STURMAN, Podolia and Kiev #ukraine

Nathan Sturman
 

Genners,
I am back after a long absence. The recovery of my grandfather
Nusen/Nathan STURMAN's immigration papers and the passenger data
from Ellis Island and the Yad Vashem records revealed that I had
been searching the wrong district. My STURMAN family did indeed
come >from Teplik, Podolia, Vinnitsa Oblast, very near Uman,
Kiev, as several fellow researchers had suggested. Lilian MAAS
for one was right, it seems. Nusen STURMAN's wife Rose KAISERMAN
came >from Byalostok according to the recollection of my late
uncle Benjamin STURMAN, one of Nathan's sons.

Nathan STURMAN

Searching STURMAN, Teplik, Podolia, Vinnitsa, Uman, Kiev, Odessa


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine family STURMAN, Podolia and Kiev #ukraine

Nathan Sturman
 

Genners,
I am back after a long absence. The recovery of my grandfather
Nusen/Nathan STURMAN's immigration papers and the passenger data
from Ellis Island and the Yad Vashem records revealed that I had
been searching the wrong district. My STURMAN family did indeed
come >from Teplik, Podolia, Vinnitsa Oblast, very near Uman,
Kiev, as several fellow researchers had suggested. Lilian MAAS
for one was right, it seems. Nusen STURMAN's wife Rose KAISERMAN
came >from Byalostok according to the recollection of my late
uncle Benjamin STURMAN, one of Nathan's sons.

Nathan STURMAN

Searching STURMAN, Teplik, Podolia, Vinnitsa, Uman, Kiev, Odessa


Re: Value of 400 rubles in 1906 #ukraine

Jeremiah Wilton <jwilton@...>
 

Wow that really helps. I compared some of the food prices to prices at my
local supermarket:

400 rubles = 1212Lb butter = $3500
400 rubles = 2222 doz eggs = $3500
400 rubles = 1600 qt oil = $5000
400 rubles = 800 chickens = $6000

Average value of 400 1905 rubles in 2006 US$: 4500

That makes US2006$11.25 per 1905 Ruble using these few examples. However,
when compared to wages, it looks pretty grim for the relatively well-paid
steel founder listed. This conversion factor has him receiving the
equivalent of US2006$540/month. I guess this can tell us something about
life in Russia at the turn of the last century.

Thanks again.
--
Jeremiah Wilton
KAPITOVSKY/CAPTAIN - Tsybulev Russia/Ukraine RYABOY/RUBOY - Tsybulev
Russia/Ukraine TSETLIN/CETLIN - Shklov Russia/Belarus

From: Michelle Frager [mailto:lulu_brooks@...]

While I can't give contemporary comparisons, there's an excellent page at
JewishGen's website showing Wages and Buying Power, 1895 - 1905:
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lida-District/wages.htm


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE: Value of 400 rubles in 1906 #ukraine

Jeremiah Wilton <jwilton@...>
 

Wow that really helps. I compared some of the food prices to prices at my
local supermarket:

400 rubles = 1212Lb butter = $3500
400 rubles = 2222 doz eggs = $3500
400 rubles = 1600 qt oil = $5000
400 rubles = 800 chickens = $6000

Average value of 400 1905 rubles in 2006 US$: 4500

That makes US2006$11.25 per 1905 Ruble using these few examples. However,
when compared to wages, it looks pretty grim for the relatively well-paid
steel founder listed. This conversion factor has him receiving the
equivalent of US2006$540/month. I guess this can tell us something about
life in Russia at the turn of the last century.

Thanks again.
--
Jeremiah Wilton
KAPITOVSKY/CAPTAIN - Tsybulev Russia/Ukraine RYABOY/RUBOY - Tsybulev
Russia/Ukraine TSETLIN/CETLIN - Shklov Russia/Belarus

From: Michelle Frager [mailto:lulu_brooks@...]

While I can't give contemporary comparisons, there's an excellent page at
JewishGen's website showing Wages and Buying Power, 1895 - 1905:
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lida-District/wages.htm


Re: Value of 400 rubles in 1906 #ukraine

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

While I can't give contemporary comparisons, there's an excellent page at
JewishGen's website showing Wages and Buying Power, 1895 - 1905:
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lida-District/wages.htm

Michelle Frager NY area
Ukraine: TREIGER SIROTA NESTER/NESTOR


--- Jeremiah Wilton <jwilton@...> wrote:

The 1906/1907 Kiev duma voters list shows my ancestor Gershko Srulevich
KAPITOVSKY owned property worth 400 rubles.

Can anyone tell me what the value of 400 1906 rubles is in today's
currency?
Are there inflation and currency indices?


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Value of 400 rubles in 1906 #ukraine

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

While I can't give contemporary comparisons, there's an excellent page at
JewishGen's website showing Wages and Buying Power, 1895 - 1905:
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lida-District/wages.htm

Michelle Frager NY area
Ukraine: TREIGER SIROTA NESTER/NESTOR


--- Jeremiah Wilton <jwilton@...> wrote:

The 1906/1907 Kiev duma voters list shows my ancestor Gershko Srulevich
KAPITOVSKY owned property worth 400 rubles.

Can anyone tell me what the value of 400 1906 rubles is in today's
currency?
Are there inflation and currency indices?


about Jews and Jewish life in Kosovo - now Brest region in Belarus. #belarus

Leonid Smilovitsky <smilov@...>
 

Dear colleagues!

Are there anybody have info about Jews and Jewish life in Kosovo - now Brest
region in Belarus.

With appreciation in advance,
Leonid Smilovitsky, Jerusalem
MODERATOR NOTE: Private replies please.


Belarus SIG #Belarus about Jews and Jewish life in Kosovo - now Brest region in Belarus. #belarus

Leonid Smilovitsky <smilov@...>
 

Dear colleagues!

Are there anybody have info about Jews and Jewish life in Kosovo - now Brest
region in Belarus.

With appreciation in advance,
Leonid Smilovitsky, Jerusalem
MODERATOR NOTE: Private replies please.


Re: Molan's live store-separate butcher and poultry #belarus

abe simon
 

Michelle Frager mentions separate butcher and poultry shops. As I was
growing up in Buffalo NY in the 1940's in a kosher home, I distinctly
remember mother taking me to "Mr. Brown's butcher shop" for hamburger,
shoulder steak, liver, etc. and to another shop for poultry which I really
remember. When I got a little older I remember going to get "chop meat" at
the butcher's taking a bus by myself. The poultry market was "atmospheric"
as Michelle says and I would often get an asthma attack >from being there. It
definitely had live birds (chicken, duck, even once a goose) she picked live
and then I heard the awful commotion in the back room.
It seems I recall she would buy the fish at more of a deli market or maybe a
large outdoor market. I don't know whether these were separate
establishments for economic/business reasons or religious reasons.

Abe Simon
Las Vegas NV
email: abe_simon@...


Does anyone know if these would have been the kind of poultry/fish shop
where
you picked a living bird and they slaughtered and cleaned it for you?
Would
meats have been sold in the same place? I remember a very cavernous,
basic,
wood-floored and wood-tabled shop of that sort in Bensonhurst before we
moved
on to Long Island in the 1950s, but can't recall if meats were on offer
too. To
say these were atmospheric is putting it mildly. Perhaps reminiscent of
the old
country's markets.


Belarus SIG #Belarus RE: Molan's live store-separate butcher and poultry #belarus

abe simon
 

Michelle Frager mentions separate butcher and poultry shops. As I was
growing up in Buffalo NY in the 1940's in a kosher home, I distinctly
remember mother taking me to "Mr. Brown's butcher shop" for hamburger,
shoulder steak, liver, etc. and to another shop for poultry which I really
remember. When I got a little older I remember going to get "chop meat" at
the butcher's taking a bus by myself. The poultry market was "atmospheric"
as Michelle says and I would often get an asthma attack >from being there. It
definitely had live birds (chicken, duck, even once a goose) she picked live
and then I heard the awful commotion in the back room.
It seems I recall she would buy the fish at more of a deli market or maybe a
large outdoor market. I don't know whether these were separate
establishments for economic/business reasons or religious reasons.

Abe Simon
Las Vegas NV
email: abe_simon@...


Does anyone know if these would have been the kind of poultry/fish shop
where
you picked a living bird and they slaughtered and cleaned it for you?
Would
meats have been sold in the same place? I remember a very cavernous,
basic,
wood-floored and wood-tabled shop of that sort in Bensonhurst before we
moved
on to Long Island in the 1950s, but can't recall if meats were on offer
too. To
say these were atmospheric is putting it mildly. Perhaps reminiscent of
the old
country's markets.


NEULANDER family #romania

agordon2000@...
 

Is there anyone out there with information on the family of Petre ROMAN who was the
Prime Minister in 1989. His family changed their name >from NEULANDER, his father was
Erno Neulander and I believe his grandfather Rabbi NEULANDER is related to my great
Grandfather who was also a Rabbi NEULANDER.

Alice Gordon
Atlanta, Georgia
agordon2000@...


Romania SIG #Romania NEULANDER family #romania

agordon2000@...
 

Is there anyone out there with information on the family of Petre ROMAN who was the
Prime Minister in 1989. His family changed their name >from NEULANDER, his father was
Erno Neulander and I believe his grandfather Rabbi NEULANDER is related to my great
Grandfather who was also a Rabbi NEULANDER.

Alice Gordon
Atlanta, Georgia
agordon2000@...


Lithuania Internal Passports - UPDATE #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

<<I would like to thank Howard Margol. I checked for my great
grandmothers' Kriger family and for the first time I found ( 100%
sure) records of her brother and his family with information prior to
1900. and now I am able to connect my Krigers (most likely) to all the
other Krigers who originated in Krekenava! What a great day it is for our
family search!
Thank you so much!
Eilat Gordin levitan, Los Angeles. eilat.gordinlevitan@... >>

It is success stories like that experienced by Eilat that makes projects
like my Lithuania Internal Passport Project worth doing. It takes a lot
of time and effort but, as the success stories continue to mount, I am
encouraged to do even more. Helping one another is what makes Jewish
genealogical research so interesting and meaningful.

Howard Margol, Coordinator
JewishGen Lithuania Internal Passport Project
homargol@...


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Lithuania Internal Passports - UPDATE #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

<<I would like to thank Howard Margol. I checked for my great
grandmothers' Kriger family and for the first time I found ( 100%
sure) records of her brother and his family with information prior to
1900. and now I am able to connect my Krigers (most likely) to all the
other Krigers who originated in Krekenava! What a great day it is for our
family search!
Thank you so much!
Eilat Gordin levitan, Los Angeles. eilat.gordinlevitan@... >>

It is success stories like that experienced by Eilat that makes projects
like my Lithuania Internal Passport Project worth doing. It takes a lot
of time and effort but, as the success stories continue to mount, I am
encouraged to do even more. Helping one another is what makes Jewish
genealogical research so interesting and meaningful.

Howard Margol, Coordinator
JewishGen Lithuania Internal Passport Project
homargol@...


Lithuania Internal Passport Files - Update #general

Howard Margol
 

2,091 additional records have been added to the JewishGen Lithuania
1919-1940 Internal Passport Database and are available on JewishGen.
Included are records >from the following towns - Vandziogala and
surrounding area - 1,602 records. Pumpenai - 245 records. City of
Panevezys - 244 records

To search the database, go to

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Lithuania/InternalPassports.htm

The following records will be added to the database during the next
4 to 6 weeks. Rokiskis - 187 records (contains a lot of very important
information). City of Kaunas - 8,124 records. Troskunai - 312 records.
Vandziogala and surrounding area - 1,089 records.

Translation Work in Progress -

Siauliai District - These records are organized differently >from the other
files.They are in alphabetical order, which is pretty common. However, all
of the individual files for the city of Siauliai as well as the different
towns and villages in the Siauliai District are filed together. They are not
separated by town so it is impossible to determine in advance the number of
records for each town. It is estimated that the total internal passport
files for Siauliai and the Siauliai District could be as many as 20,000 to
30,000.

City of Kaunas - As many as 8,000 additional records are being translated.

City of Panevezys - An estimated additional 6,000 records are in the process
of being translated.

Troskunai - the final group of records are in process.

Kaunas District - excluding the cities of Kaunas and Jonava - An estimated
additional 1,100 records are in process.

If you do not see your shtetl or town listed, do not despair. Do a town
search for your town and you may be surprised at the data that appears. Many
Jews applied for their internal passport in a different town >from where they
lived. Also, you may find your ancestor living in a different place >from what
you thought.

Howard Margol, Coordinator
JewishGen Lithuania Internal Passport Project
Atlanta, Georgia
homargol@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lithuania Internal Passport Files - Update #general

Howard Margol
 

2,091 additional records have been added to the JewishGen Lithuania
1919-1940 Internal Passport Database and are available on JewishGen.
Included are records >from the following towns - Vandziogala and
surrounding area - 1,602 records. Pumpenai - 245 records. City of
Panevezys - 244 records

To search the database, go to

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Lithuania/InternalPassports.htm

The following records will be added to the database during the next
4 to 6 weeks. Rokiskis - 187 records (contains a lot of very important
information). City of Kaunas - 8,124 records. Troskunai - 312 records.
Vandziogala and surrounding area - 1,089 records.

Translation Work in Progress -

Siauliai District - These records are organized differently >from the other
files.They are in alphabetical order, which is pretty common. However, all
of the individual files for the city of Siauliai as well as the different
towns and villages in the Siauliai District are filed together. They are not
separated by town so it is impossible to determine in advance the number of
records for each town. It is estimated that the total internal passport
files for Siauliai and the Siauliai District could be as many as 20,000 to
30,000.

City of Kaunas - As many as 8,000 additional records are being translated.

City of Panevezys - An estimated additional 6,000 records are in the process
of being translated.

Troskunai - the final group of records are in process.

Kaunas District - excluding the cities of Kaunas and Jonava - An estimated
additional 1,100 records are in process.

If you do not see your shtetl or town listed, do not despair. Do a town
search for your town and you may be surprised at the data that appears. Many
Jews applied for their internal passport in a different town >from where they
lived. Also, you may find your ancestor living in a different place >from what
you thought.

Howard Margol, Coordinator
JewishGen Lithuania Internal Passport Project
Atlanta, Georgia
homargol@...


The SCHMULOWITZes (and SCHWARTZes) of Scranton (and Michalovce, Hungary) circa 1900. #general

yehuda frischman
 

Dear Friends,

I have not written to the group concerning our family
mystery for about 4 years. Now with the help of a
cousin who I found through another SIG much of the
the mystery has been solved, and even more we are
close to tracking down.

I had written asking for anyone who know of
SCHMULOWITZes or SCHWARTZes >from Scranton, Pa, and
specifically asking about Josef Schwartz (my paternal
GGF), Mosie Schwartz, his son who had married his
cousin >from the family of New England Stationery of
Boston, and Rae WEBER and Anton Schmulowitz who were
each distant cousins, the specifice relation
undetermined. I also mentioned that Rae Weber, who
passed away just a couple of years ago, had mentioned
to my sister that there had been 3 Schmulowitz
brothers, all in the grocery business in Scranton, and
that because they were worried about the impression of
a family monopoly, my grandfather had changed his name
to Schwartz.

I heard back >from Douglas Cohen, of Lexington, Mass,
and to make a long story shorter, we together
determined that Josef Schwartz was actually Josef
Schmulowitz, and that he had taken his wife Resi's
maiden name. Furthermore, Resi was one of four
children of Isaac and Toba Schwartz, along with Sarah
Schwartz Friedman, (the wife of Sol Friedman of New
England Stationery) Edward Elias Schwartz, and Samuel
Schwartz (Doug's GGF). Toba Schwartz was the daughter
of Shmuel and Rochel Schmulowitz! So indeed, Mosie
Schwartz did marry his cousin Eva, the daughter of
Sarah Schwartz Friedman. I was also able to travel
to Har Hazeisim in Jerusalem, and found Josef
Schwartz's matzeva. He was Yosef ben Baruch.

Just this week I revisited the Scranton 1900 census
and in summary, we now know the follow:

1. The patriarch of the Schmulowitz family, who I
suspect never came over >from Europe and who I know for
sure was Joe Schartz's father was Baruch Schmulowitz.
Doug and I suspect that he may have also been the
brother of Toba Schmulowitz (who married Isaac
Schwartz and who was the mother of Resi (Joe Schwartz
Schmulowitzes wife), Edward Elias Schwartz, Sarah
Schwartz, and Samuel Schwartz.

2. Toba Schmulowitz Schwartz's (and Baruch
Schmulowitz's?) parents were Schmuel and Rachel
Schmulowitz

3. There were at least 4 Schmulowitz siblings: 1.
Josef Schwartz, who took his wife's (and maybe his
aunt Toba's) maiden name Schmulowitz, 2. Raizy who
married Max Weber and who was the mother of Rae Weber,
and two Schmulowitz brothers who lived next door to
Josef Schartz in 1900: 3.Toni, and 4. Harry.

To confirm this theory,still need to have someone
check out the matzevas of Raizy Weber, Toni
Schmulowitz and Harry Schmulowitz, to check dates and
more important, to see if their father's name was
Baruch. That would ascertain 99% this theory.

All that would be left to verify would be other
possible siblings and the Europe connection.

Back in 2002 when I last wrote, I had heard back about
some Scranton and Wilkes Barre Schmulowitzes and
Schwartzes. Now that I have so much more info, I
would really appreciate hearing >from anyone able to
add more pieces to the puzzle.

Thanks,

Yehuda Frischman
Los Angeles


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The SCHMULOWITZes (and SCHWARTZes) of Scranton (and Michalovce, Hungary) circa 1900. #general

yehuda frischman
 

Dear Friends,

I have not written to the group concerning our family
mystery for about 4 years. Now with the help of a
cousin who I found through another SIG much of the
the mystery has been solved, and even more we are
close to tracking down.

I had written asking for anyone who know of
SCHMULOWITZes or SCHWARTZes >from Scranton, Pa, and
specifically asking about Josef Schwartz (my paternal
GGF), Mosie Schwartz, his son who had married his
cousin >from the family of New England Stationery of
Boston, and Rae WEBER and Anton Schmulowitz who were
each distant cousins, the specifice relation
undetermined. I also mentioned that Rae Weber, who
passed away just a couple of years ago, had mentioned
to my sister that there had been 3 Schmulowitz
brothers, all in the grocery business in Scranton, and
that because they were worried about the impression of
a family monopoly, my grandfather had changed his name
to Schwartz.

I heard back >from Douglas Cohen, of Lexington, Mass,
and to make a long story shorter, we together
determined that Josef Schwartz was actually Josef
Schmulowitz, and that he had taken his wife Resi's
maiden name. Furthermore, Resi was one of four
children of Isaac and Toba Schwartz, along with Sarah
Schwartz Friedman, (the wife of Sol Friedman of New
England Stationery) Edward Elias Schwartz, and Samuel
Schwartz (Doug's GGF). Toba Schwartz was the daughter
of Shmuel and Rochel Schmulowitz! So indeed, Mosie
Schwartz did marry his cousin Eva, the daughter of
Sarah Schwartz Friedman. I was also able to travel
to Har Hazeisim in Jerusalem, and found Josef
Schwartz's matzeva. He was Yosef ben Baruch.

Just this week I revisited the Scranton 1900 census
and in summary, we now know the follow:

1. The patriarch of the Schmulowitz family, who I
suspect never came over >from Europe and who I know for
sure was Joe Schartz's father was Baruch Schmulowitz.
Doug and I suspect that he may have also been the
brother of Toba Schmulowitz (who married Isaac
Schwartz and who was the mother of Resi (Joe Schwartz
Schmulowitzes wife), Edward Elias Schwartz, Sarah
Schwartz, and Samuel Schwartz.

2. Toba Schmulowitz Schwartz's (and Baruch
Schmulowitz's?) parents were Schmuel and Rachel
Schmulowitz

3. There were at least 4 Schmulowitz siblings: 1.
Josef Schwartz, who took his wife's (and maybe his
aunt Toba's) maiden name Schmulowitz, 2. Raizy who
married Max Weber and who was the mother of Rae Weber,
and two Schmulowitz brothers who lived next door to
Josef Schartz in 1900: 3.Toni, and 4. Harry.

To confirm this theory,still need to have someone
check out the matzevas of Raizy Weber, Toni
Schmulowitz and Harry Schmulowitz, to check dates and
more important, to see if their father's name was
Baruch. That would ascertain 99% this theory.

All that would be left to verify would be other
possible siblings and the Europe connection.

Back in 2002 when I last wrote, I had heard back about
some Scranton and Wilkes Barre Schmulowitzes and
Schwartzes. Now that I have so much more info, I
would really appreciate hearing >from anyone able to
add more pieces to the puzzle.

Thanks,

Yehuda Frischman
Los Angeles