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Citizenship after World War I
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Anita Frankel
Fellow Galitzianas,
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I can add a little information to the discussion. A few years ago I found a reference to a possible relative: Moses Weingast had arrived in NY in 1932 for a business trip. The ship manifest listed him as an Austrian citizen living in Vienna. Hoping to learn more about him, I wrote to several governmental offices in Vienna for passport information. The most useful response came >from Osterreichischers (umlat on the O) Staatarchiv; Archiv der Republik. I was surprised to learn that my "great uncle" was *not* a citizen of Austria, although he was traveling on an Austrian passport. I was informed that he had twice applied for citizenship but was denied in accordance with the regulations of the St. Germaine Peace Treaty at the end of World War I. Austria claimed that as the successor state they were not required to grant citizenship to anyone whose race and language (German) were not in accord with the majority of the Austrian population. These documents are dated 1920 and 1921. Weingast was a successful businessman living in Vienna who wanted Austrian citizenship. I have not been able to find out if he survived the holocaust. Anita Frankel
from near Hartford, CT., USA
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Citizenship after World War I
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Anita Frankel
Fellow Galitzianas,
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I can add a little information to the discussion. A few years ago I found a reference to a possible relative: Moses Weingast had arrived in NY in 1932 for a business trip. The ship manifest listed him as an Austrian citizen living in Vienna. Hoping to learn more about him, I wrote to several governmental offices in Vienna for passport information. The most useful response came >from Osterreichischers (umlat on the O) Staatarchiv; Archiv der Republik. I was surprised to learn that my "great uncle" was *not* a citizen of Austria, although he was traveling on an Austrian passport. I was informed that he had twice applied for citizenship but was denied in accordance with the regulations of the St. Germaine Peace Treaty at the end of World War I. Austria claimed that as the successor state they were not required to grant citizenship to anyone whose race and language (German) were not in accord with the majority of the Austrian population. These documents are dated 1920 and 1921. Weingast was a successful businessman living in Vienna who wanted Austrian citizenship. I have not been able to find out if he survived the holocaust. Anita Frankel
from near Hartford, CT., USA
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Re: Post WWI Austrian citizenship
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Mike Joseph
Lancy Spalter raises some very interesting questions. But I am not sure
I am convinced by Suzan & Ron Wynne's comment: There were massive problems in Poland as well, of course. I don't meanI doubt that the decision to retain Polish nationality can be read as a positive vote for the safety and comfort of life in Poland. Other factors were are work. For many young Jewish Galicians, neither Poland nor Austria seemed to offer much post-First World War. Germany was a different matter. My grandfather was decorated for war service in the Austro-Hungarian Army, despite which he too maintained Polish nationality. However that was purely by default. By 1918 he had already emigrated to Germany, where he raised a family, ran a business, and tried without success to obtain German nationality - refused in 1924 and impossible by 1933. Three years after Hitler came to power, and still holding a Polish passport, he wrote "To be out of Poland’s hell. I don’t want to be there again at any price’. Despite this, my mother surmised that her father was not completely dismayed to be stuck with a Polish passport in Germany. He was still supporting his parents, siblings and cousins in Galicia. And ‘he didn’t want to find himself fighting in the German Army against his own family in another war’. As a Polish national, he was deported with his wife and children to Poland in 1938. Mike Joseph
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Post WWI Austrian citizenship
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Mike Joseph
Lancy Spalter raises some very interesting questions. But I am not sure
I am convinced by Suzan & Ron Wynne's comment: There were massive problems in Poland as well, of course. I don't meanI doubt that the decision to retain Polish nationality can be read as a positive vote for the safety and comfort of life in Poland. Other factors were are work. For many young Jewish Galicians, neither Poland nor Austria seemed to offer much post-First World War. Germany was a different matter. My grandfather was decorated for war service in the Austro-Hungarian Army, despite which he too maintained Polish nationality. However that was purely by default. By 1918 he had already emigrated to Germany, where he raised a family, ran a business, and tried without success to obtain German nationality - refused in 1924 and impossible by 1933. Three years after Hitler came to power, and still holding a Polish passport, he wrote "To be out of Poland’s hell. I don’t want to be there again at any price’. Despite this, my mother surmised that her father was not completely dismayed to be stuck with a Polish passport in Germany. He was still supporting his parents, siblings and cousins in Galicia. And ‘he didn’t want to find himself fighting in the German Army against his own family in another war’. As a Polish national, he was deported with his wife and children to Poland in 1938. Mike Joseph
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Re: galicia digest: June 10, 2006
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Edward Goldstein <editor.TheGalitzianer@...>
In addition to the several reasons that have been advanced, Polish
patriotism may have played a role in the choice many Galician Jews -- especially young adults -- made in their choice of citizenship. My father, who had served in the Polish army, often mentioned to us children that he returned to Galicia full of hope for a new Poland in which Jews would be treated with full civil rights. Of course, it did not take him long to be disappointed. Galicia had been the poorest of the areas >from which modern Poland was assembled. In addition, it had suffered terribly in the War. Jobs were hard to find. And then, before long, Polish anti-Semitism -- both popular and government sponsored -- was added to this mix. Edward Goldstein
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: galicia digest: June 10, 2006
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Edward Goldstein <editor.TheGalitzianer@...>
In addition to the several reasons that have been advanced, Polish
patriotism may have played a role in the choice many Galician Jews -- especially young adults -- made in their choice of citizenship. My father, who had served in the Polish army, often mentioned to us children that he returned to Galicia full of hope for a new Poland in which Jews would be treated with full civil rights. Of course, it did not take him long to be disappointed. Galicia had been the poorest of the areas >from which modern Poland was assembled. In addition, it had suffered terribly in the War. Jobs were hard to find. And then, before long, Polish anti-Semitism -- both popular and government sponsored -- was added to this mix. Edward Goldstein
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Post WWI Austrian citizenship
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Johannes Heidecker <Johannes@...>
One reason for opting for a citizenship was to keep their possessions
(specifically real estate) and the right to stay. I do not know for Poland, but for SHS (later Jugoslavia) or Italy. Many Austrian officers opted for Italian citizenship to keep their villas and right to stay on the coast, even so in the country of the former enemy. One Habsburg princess opted for SHS (later Jugoslav) citizenship to keep her castle in that area. Johannes Heidecker Belgrad (Serbien) www.Heidecker-Post.com
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Post WWI Austrian citizenship
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Johannes Heidecker <Johannes@...>
One reason for opting for a citizenship was to keep their possessions
(specifically real estate) and the right to stay. I do not know for Poland, but for SHS (later Jugoslavia) or Italy. Many Austrian officers opted for Italian citizenship to keep their villas and right to stay on the coast, even so in the country of the former enemy. One Habsburg princess opted for SHS (later Jugoslav) citizenship to keep her castle in that area. Johannes Heidecker Belgrad (Serbien) www.Heidecker-Post.com
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Re: Citizenship after WWI
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Alan Weiser <alanboy@...>
Well several people have added some insight to the question, Why did
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Galitzianers retain Polish citizenship rather that opt for Austrian after a year's wait? Here's my two-cents worth based on my father's history. For whatever reason my father left his home in Kolomyja at age 15 in 1918. He went first to Vienna for 2 years, then to Bratislava for 2 years then to America in 1922. His passport and related good citizenship papers were all in Polish. I suspect that in order to move around when he did, he needed to have a citizenship. Delaying his departure just to obtain Austrian citizenship evidently was not what he wanted to do. Thus, it could be said that Galitzianers that wanted to leave the old Galicia area, and possibly escape Polish rule, decided that the best course of action was to retain Polish citizenship. Following W.W.I, I suspect being German or speaking German was not a social or economic advantage. Alan Weiser alanboy@starpower.net Silver Spring, MD
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From: "Bev Beiman" <bbevy@012.net.il> To: "Gesher Galicia SIG" <galicia@lyris.jewishgen.org> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 5:49 AM Subject: Re:[galicia] Citizenship after WWI ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~ Support the work of this group with a contribution to the JewishGenGeneral Fund http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~ Jewish Genealogy New York City August 13-18, 2006~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~ clauses ofFellow researcher M. Goldberger drew my attention to the relevant Austria. Thethe Treaty of Peace between the Allied and Associate Powers and citizenshipanswer is that Galitzianers were automatically granted Polish Very few of them > did.BUT they had a 12-month period to opt for Austrian citizenship. toThe truth is, I don't know the answer why, but I can add something the mystery.who were caught up (and died) in the Spanish Flu epidemic.my older uncles dated in the 20s. They were not granted passports butcountry they came from, namely the Austrian Empire, no longer existed andthey therefore had no citizenship at all.is the gist of it.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ The Gesher Galicia Discussion Group (galicia@lyris.jewishgen.org) ishosted by JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ Join Gesher Galicia! Visit our home page at(vacation), or to unsubscribe, please go to http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Re:Citizenship after WWI
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Alan Weiser <alanboy@...>
Well several people have added some insight to the question, Why did
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Galitzianers retain Polish citizenship rather that opt for Austrian after a year's wait? Here's my two-cents worth based on my father's history. For whatever reason my father left his home in Kolomyja at age 15 in 1918. He went first to Vienna for 2 years, then to Bratislava for 2 years then to America in 1922. His passport and related good citizenship papers were all in Polish. I suspect that in order to move around when he did, he needed to have a citizenship. Delaying his departure just to obtain Austrian citizenship evidently was not what he wanted to do. Thus, it could be said that Galitzianers that wanted to leave the old Galicia area, and possibly escape Polish rule, decided that the best course of action was to retain Polish citizenship. Following W.W.I, I suspect being German or speaking German was not a social or economic advantage. Alan Weiser alanboy@starpower.net Silver Spring, MD
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From: "Bev Beiman" <bbevy@012.net.il> To: "Gesher Galicia SIG" <galicia@lyris.jewishgen.org> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 5:49 AM Subject: Re:[galicia] Citizenship after WWI ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~ Support the work of this group with a contribution to the JewishGenGeneral Fund http://www.jewishgen.org/jewishgen-erosity/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~ Jewish Genealogy New York City August 13-18, 2006~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~ clauses ofFellow researcher M. Goldberger drew my attention to the relevant Austria. Thethe Treaty of Peace between the Allied and Associate Powers and citizenshipanswer is that Galitzianers were automatically granted Polish Very few of them > did.BUT they had a 12-month period to opt for Austrian citizenship. toThe truth is, I don't know the answer why, but I can add something the mystery.who were caught up (and died) in the Spanish Flu epidemic.my older uncles dated in the 20s. They were not granted passports butcountry they came from, namely the Austrian Empire, no longer existed andthey therefore had no citizenship at all.is the gist of it.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ The Gesher Galicia Discussion Group (galicia@lyris.jewishgen.org) ishosted by JewishGen: The Home of Jewish Genealogy~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~ Join Gesher Galicia! Visit our home page at(vacation), or to unsubscribe, please go to http://www.jewishgen.org/listserv
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Post WWI citizenship of Galician Jews
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Judy Keiner <J.C.Keiner@...>
My mother's family made choices of citizenship after WWI which ultimately
determined whether they lived or died in the Nazi era. My grandparents emigrated to Berlin in the first decade of the twentieth century. My grandfather and oldest uncle served in the Austro-Hungarian army during WWI. After WWI, my oldest uncle chose German nationality-he had by then gained his PhD in Berlin and was a fervently would-be Jecke. In later years, he denied that he had ever spoken Yiddish; he referred to his experience of coming to Germany as a five year old as involving having to learn to "speak German properly", even though his parents continued to speak Yiddish at home. My next oldest uncle chose Austrian nationality. I don't really know why he did this, but he was certainly assimilationist, and an admirer of the modernism that he associated with both Germany and post war Austria. He was much more into style than his oldest brother. It's possible he regarded Austria as a more stylish and elegant country than Germany. My youngest uncle and my mother were still under age at the time, so my grandfather chose Polish nationality for them and himself and his wife. He does not seem to have been an admirer of Polish nationalism, but he was a wholesale egg importer, who brought trainloads of eggs >from Poland and Hungary for sale in the Berlin metropolis. So I think the choice of Polish nationality was probably for business reasons. It's possible that there were also taxation advantages. When the Nazi era came, it was much easier for my two oldest uncles to get onto the US emigration visa quotas, which were much larger for German and Austrian citizens than Poles, reflecting the particular racisms of then US immigration policies, which regarded Poles as beings of "poorer stock". Once they were on the quota waiting lists, they were able to get transit visas into England, where they remained. So my grandparents, my mother and her youngest brother had great difficulty in getting their visas. And they were still in Berlin at the time of the great round-up and expulsion of Polish Jews of October 1938, which the Nazis did in order to forestall the anti-semitic action of the then Polish government which was due to strip long-term expatriate Polish citizens like them of their nationality. My grandfather and youngest uncle were rounded up and dumped at the no-man's land between the two countries, >from where they were rescued and taken in by cousins in Krakow. The family was able to get my grandfather out to join his sons and daughter in London just a couple of months before the war started, but sadly and ironically, he was killed in a bombing raid the day after Yom Kippur 1940. My youngest uncle was unable to get out of Poland because the Polish authorities, who months earlier had been proposing to strip him of his nationality, now refused to grant exit visas to men of military age as the threat of a German invasion grew higher. He was rounded up for "forced labour" some time in 1940 with other young Jewish men in Krakow; they were made to dig a collective grave before being shot into it. Judy Keiner Researching: FROMMER, METH, KEINER, FUHRER, TELLER, BIRNBAUM,SPITZER, GUTTMAN, RAAB, EISNER, ZELLERKRAUT in Kanczuga, Blazowa, Rzeszow, Przemysl, Rcziepenick, Tarnow, Gorlice, Sadowa-Wisznyia.
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Post WWI citizenship of Galician Jews
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Judy Keiner <J.C.Keiner@...>
My mother's family made choices of citizenship after WWI which ultimately
determined whether they lived or died in the Nazi era. My grandparents emigrated to Berlin in the first decade of the twentieth century. My grandfather and oldest uncle served in the Austro-Hungarian army during WWI. After WWI, my oldest uncle chose German nationality-he had by then gained his PhD in Berlin and was a fervently would-be Jecke. In later years, he denied that he had ever spoken Yiddish; he referred to his experience of coming to Germany as a five year old as involving having to learn to "speak German properly", even though his parents continued to speak Yiddish at home. My next oldest uncle chose Austrian nationality. I don't really know why he did this, but he was certainly assimilationist, and an admirer of the modernism that he associated with both Germany and post war Austria. He was much more into style than his oldest brother. It's possible he regarded Austria as a more stylish and elegant country than Germany. My youngest uncle and my mother were still under age at the time, so my grandfather chose Polish nationality for them and himself and his wife. He does not seem to have been an admirer of Polish nationalism, but he was a wholesale egg importer, who brought trainloads of eggs >from Poland and Hungary for sale in the Berlin metropolis. So I think the choice of Polish nationality was probably for business reasons. It's possible that there were also taxation advantages. When the Nazi era came, it was much easier for my two oldest uncles to get onto the US emigration visa quotas, which were much larger for German and Austrian citizens than Poles, reflecting the particular racisms of then US immigration policies, which regarded Poles as beings of "poorer stock". Once they were on the quota waiting lists, they were able to get transit visas into England, where they remained. So my grandparents, my mother and her youngest brother had great difficulty in getting their visas. And they were still in Berlin at the time of the great round-up and expulsion of Polish Jews of October 1938, which the Nazis did in order to forestall the anti-semitic action of the then Polish government which was due to strip long-term expatriate Polish citizens like them of their nationality. My grandfather and youngest uncle were rounded up and dumped at the no-man's land between the two countries, >from where they were rescued and taken in by cousins in Krakow. The family was able to get my grandfather out to join his sons and daughter in London just a couple of months before the war started, but sadly and ironically, he was killed in a bombing raid the day after Yom Kippur 1940. My youngest uncle was unable to get out of Poland because the Polish authorities, who months earlier had been proposing to strip him of his nationality, now refused to grant exit visas to men of military age as the threat of a German invasion grew higher. He was rounded up for "forced labour" some time in 1940 with other young Jewish men in Krakow; they were made to dig a collective grave before being shot into it. Judy Keiner Researching: FROMMER, METH, KEINER, FUHRER, TELLER, BIRNBAUM,SPITZER, GUTTMAN, RAAB, EISNER, ZELLERKRAUT in Kanczuga, Blazowa, Rzeszow, Przemysl, Rcziepenick, Tarnow, Gorlice, Sadowa-Wisznyia.
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The family Langrot, originally from Bobrka near Lvov
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פנינה מיזליש <pniname@...>
Dear friends,
If any of you knows something about the family Langrot, originally from Lvov, please let me know. Lots of thanks Dr. Pnina Meislish, Jerusalem
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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia The family Langrot, originally from Bobrka near Lvov
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פנינה מיזליש <pniname@...>
Dear friends,
If any of you knows something about the family Langrot, originally from Lvov, please let me know. Lots of thanks Dr. Pnina Meislish, Jerusalem
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YELIN
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Carol Graham <stukawife@...>
The conversation about YELIN sparked my interest. The
furthest back I can go with my YELLIN family is to Lomza, Poland. In this country my Yellins are mostly ALLEN now (my maiden name). Jacob Yellin and his wife Eva DONN came to the USA Poland via England after 1898 (they we married 12/25/1898 in London) and settled in NYC. Jacob was born 12 Apr 1872 in Lomza. But in another branch we have a family member whose name is Jacob Kopyl FRANK. I have only just recently learned that there is a town named Kopyl. He was born June 1861, in Bobryisk (spelling is bad here), but no other information is to be had for us. He was married to Fanny Judith CARMEL. Carol Graham Augusta ME (via NY) _
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Belarus SIG #Belarus YELIN
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Carol Graham <stukawife@...>
The conversation about YELIN sparked my interest. The
furthest back I can go with my YELLIN family is to Lomza, Poland. In this country my Yellins are mostly ALLEN now (my maiden name). Jacob Yellin and his wife Eva DONN came to the USA Poland via England after 1898 (they we married 12/25/1898 in London) and settled in NYC. Jacob was born 12 Apr 1872 in Lomza. But in another branch we have a family member whose name is Jacob Kopyl FRANK. I have only just recently learned that there is a town named Kopyl. He was born June 1861, in Bobryisk (spelling is bad here), but no other information is to be had for us. He was married to Fanny Judith CARMEL. Carol Graham Augusta ME (via NY) _
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Levy Myer GOLDSTON
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Derek & Rosemary Wenzerul <dandr@...>
I am trying to find details of my great uncle, Levy Myer GOLDSTON. He was
born on 13 January 1861, St. Julian Street, Norwich, Norfolk, England. On the 1881 census he was shown (aged 20/Jeweller) as living with his parents (Rev. Abraham and Amelia Goldston) at 1 Sandys Row, Spitalfields, London.E. There are no details of his death in the free b,m,d, indexes of the GRO. I have a feeling that he probably died between the census date of 1881 when he is shown as aged 20 and either his father's obituary date of January 1906 as he wasn't mentioned. Or he might have died before May 1903 as Joseph Goldston (his brother) had named a son born in May 1903 as Levi Goldston. Failing this, he may have gone overseas, in which case, it is unlikely that I will find anything about him. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Rosemary Wenzerul dandr@wenzeds.freeserve.co.uk Researching: Barnett, Benjamin, deFries, Goldston, Molen/Vandermolen, Myers, Nunes-Martines/Martin and Wenzerul
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Levy Myer GOLDSTON
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Derek & Rosemary Wenzerul <dandr@...>
I am trying to find details of my great uncle, Levy Myer GOLDSTON. He was
born on 13 January 1861, St. Julian Street, Norwich, Norfolk, England. On the 1881 census he was shown (aged 20/Jeweller) as living with his parents (Rev. Abraham and Amelia Goldston) at 1 Sandys Row, Spitalfields, London.E. There are no details of his death in the free b,m,d, indexes of the GRO. I have a feeling that he probably died between the census date of 1881 when he is shown as aged 20 and either his father's obituary date of January 1906 as he wasn't mentioned. Or he might have died before May 1903 as Joseph Goldston (his brother) had named a son born in May 1903 as Levi Goldston. Failing this, he may have gone overseas, in which case, it is unlikely that I will find anything about him. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Rosemary Wenzerul dandr@wenzeds.freeserve.co.uk Researching: Barnett, Benjamin, deFries, Goldston, Molen/Vandermolen, Myers, Nunes-Martines/Martin and Wenzerul
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Toleranz Patent on view in Vienna
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Celia Male <celiamale@...>
Anyone visiting Vienna between now and 17th September 2006 has a chance
to see a copy of the Toleranz Patent of Josef II - a key piece of legislation which changed the life of Jews in the Habsburg Empire. The Patent is displayed as part of fascinating exhibition celebrating the life of Lorenzo da Ponte, ne 1749 as Emanuele Conegliano in Caneda the ghetto nr Venice. He was probably Mozart's most important librettist and the exhibition at the Jewish Museum, Vienna is well-worth a visit. Emanuele's father, Geremia, was a leather merchant and his mother was Rachel PINCHERLE: see http://www.jmw.at This Toleranz Patent comes >from the Niederoesterreichisches Landesarchiv in St Polten: http://tinyurl.com/nrkg8 The Patent is accompanied in a display case with an enthusiastic pamphlet from the 17-year old Benedict David ARNSTEIN. David was the grandson ofthe Viennese banker Adam Isaac von ARNSTEIN and the nephew of the famous Nathan ARNSTEIN; David was born in Vienna on Oct. 15 1765 - http://tinyurl.com/hdnct The poem is lengthily entitled in "Einige judische Familienszenen bey Erblickung des Patents uber die Freyheit, welche die Juden in den kaiserlichen Staaten erhalten haben, von einem judischen Jungling Arenhof." The teenager describes, in rhyme, the scenes of rejoicing in the households of the ARNSTEIN and ESKELES families of Vienna - the Jews will now be free, liberated and equal. However, in later years, he was to be disappointed. Nothing much had changed in everyday life - except of course all the Jews in the Habsburg Empire now had family names and in legislation they had more rights and admittedly, an excellent education system. This is the grave of the David Benedict in Wahring - a wonderful link to Vienna in the the time of Mozart, da Ponte and the excitement surrounding the enactment of the Toleranz Patent: ARNSTEIN Benedict David, Benedict 83 yrs 06.01.1841 Wahringer Friedhof 4 707 I have no idea whether many more copies of the Toleranz Patent exist and, if so, where they are located. I am pleased, at long last, to have seen a copy of the famous document. Celia Male [U.K.]
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Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Toleranz Patent on view in Vienna
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Celia Male <celiamale@...>
Anyone visiting Vienna between now and 17th September 2006 has a chance
to see a copy of the Toleranz Patent of Josef II - a key piece of legislation which changed the life of Jews in the Habsburg Empire. The Patent is displayed as part of fascinating exhibition celebrating the life of Lorenzo da Ponte, ne 1749 as Emanuele Conegliano in Caneda the ghetto nr Venice. He was probably Mozart's most important librettist and the exhibition at the Jewish Museum, Vienna is well-worth a visit. Emanuele's father, Geremia, was a leather merchant and his mother was Rachel PINCHERLE: see http://www.jmw.at This Toleranz Patent comes >from the Niederoesterreichisches Landesarchiv in St Polten: http://tinyurl.com/nrkg8 The Patent is accompanied in a display case with an enthusiastic pamphlet from the 17-year old Benedict David ARNSTEIN. David was the grandson ofthe Viennese banker Adam Isaac von ARNSTEIN and the nephew of the famous Nathan ARNSTEIN; David was born in Vienna on Oct. 15 1765 - http://tinyurl.com/hdnct The poem is lengthily entitled in "Einige judische Familienszenen bey Erblickung des Patents uber die Freyheit, welche die Juden in den kaiserlichen Staaten erhalten haben, von einem judischen Jungling Arenhof." The teenager describes, in rhyme, the scenes of rejoicing in the households of the ARNSTEIN and ESKELES families of Vienna - the Jews will now be free, liberated and equal. However, in later years, he was to be disappointed. Nothing much had changed in everyday life - except of course all the Jews in the Habsburg Empire now had family names and in legislation they had more rights and admittedly, an excellent education system. This is the grave of the David Benedict in Wahring - a wonderful link to Vienna in the the time of Mozart, da Ponte and the excitement surrounding the enactment of the Toleranz Patent: ARNSTEIN Benedict David, Benedict 83 yrs 06.01.1841 Wahringer Friedhof 4 707 I have no idea whether many more copies of the Toleranz Patent exist and, if so, where they are located. I am pleased, at long last, to have seen a copy of the famous document. Celia Male [U.K.]
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