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Re: JGFF - cousins reunited - too! #general

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

Renee's message has prompted me to reconfirm the power of JewishGen and it's
FamilyFinder database.

In the past several weeks I have been contacted by two cousins >from 2
different family branches.
They had read my entries in the JGFF when searching their ancestral surname.

One message proved to be >from a young woman in New Jersey whom I identified
immediately as my paternal half 2nd cousin - once removed, same
Great-Grandfather - different Great-Grandmother [or as I am more apt to
say - my fifth cousin].
She is just beginning her genealogical research, but we exchanged
photographs of our mutual ancestors and have continued our correspondence.

The second message pertained to my husband's Mother's family - a 2nd
cousin's daughter-in- law living in Arizona [originally >from Minnesota],
researching her husband's ancestry. She brought us back in touch with
members of the family with whom we had lost contact many years ago.

This was not the first time JGFF has been instrumental in bringing "lost"
members together in the six family branches which I have concentrated upon
in my research.

The Moderator suggested
<< A good way to mark such a success is by making a financial contribution
to the work of JewishGen.>>

May I also suggest that JGS Societies contribute as well? Take the time to
view Jewishgen's Fact Sheet.
The figures may surprise you!
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/FactSheet.htm

"Thank G-d for JewishGen!"

Sylvia

Sylvia FURSHMAN NUSINOV
President Emerita
JGSPBCI, FL
USA
Searching:
ABELMAN, ARONSON, DOROGOI, FRUCHT/FURSHMAN, FURSTMAN, GORDON, MELC,
SHEINKEROVICH, SHIMENOVITZ, Kaunas,Vilnius, Moletai,Ukmerge, Lithuania
AVNER, AWNER,WECHSLER, EHRENPREIS,FRIEDHOFFER, Ukraine
NOUSSINOFF/NUSINOV, LENTOTCHNIK/LENT, Ukraine


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re:JGFF - cousins reunited - too! #general

Sylvia Furshman Nusinov
 

Renee's message has prompted me to reconfirm the power of JewishGen and it's
FamilyFinder database.

In the past several weeks I have been contacted by two cousins >from 2
different family branches.
They had read my entries in the JGFF when searching their ancestral surname.

One message proved to be >from a young woman in New Jersey whom I identified
immediately as my paternal half 2nd cousin - once removed, same
Great-Grandfather - different Great-Grandmother [or as I am more apt to
say - my fifth cousin].
She is just beginning her genealogical research, but we exchanged
photographs of our mutual ancestors and have continued our correspondence.

The second message pertained to my husband's Mother's family - a 2nd
cousin's daughter-in- law living in Arizona [originally >from Minnesota],
researching her husband's ancestry. She brought us back in touch with
members of the family with whom we had lost contact many years ago.

This was not the first time JGFF has been instrumental in bringing "lost"
members together in the six family branches which I have concentrated upon
in my research.

The Moderator suggested
<< A good way to mark such a success is by making a financial contribution
to the work of JewishGen.>>

May I also suggest that JGS Societies contribute as well? Take the time to
view Jewishgen's Fact Sheet.
The figures may surprise you!
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/FactSheet.htm

"Thank G-d for JewishGen!"

Sylvia

Sylvia FURSHMAN NUSINOV
President Emerita
JGSPBCI, FL
USA
Searching:
ABELMAN, ARONSON, DOROGOI, FRUCHT/FURSHMAN, FURSTMAN, GORDON, MELC,
SHEINKEROVICH, SHIMENOVITZ, Kaunas,Vilnius, Moletai,Ukmerge, Lithuania
AVNER, AWNER,WECHSLER, EHRENPREIS,FRIEDHOFFER, Ukraine
NOUSSINOFF/NUSINOV, LENTOTCHNIK/LENT, Ukraine


JGSGW Washington, DC - "Daily Life in Galicia" #general

Marlene Bishow
 

The next meeting of the Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington (DC)
will take place:

on May 7, 2006
at B'nai Israel Congregation, 6301 Montrose Road, Rockville, MD in the
Stearman Auditorium

Topic: Daily Life in Galicia
Speaker: Suzan Wynne

Noon-1:30 PM Board Meeting (No Workshop)
1:30 PM Schmooze
2:00 PM - 4:00 PM

Did you ever wonder what your ancestors' lives were like? Member and author,
Suzan Wynne will speak about daily life in the cities and shtetls of eastern
Europe, particularly in Galicia. An ample Q&A session will follow the
presentation, so be sure to bring questions.

Suzan is the author of the soon-to-be released "The Galitzianers: The Jews
of Galicia,1772-1918" and of "Finding Your Jewish Roots in Galicia," a
comprehensive guide to doing Galician-Jewish genealogical research. The
later book is currently out of print. and Suzan Wynne, is the founding
president of Gesher Galicia, the Special Interest Group for Jewish
genealogy. She has been doing Galician genealogical research for more than
25 years. Before retiring to pursue a mental health consultation and
supervision practice, Suzan developed and directed a large, private
outpatient mental health center in Montgomery County.

Guests are welcome. For additional information about this meeting, contact
Marlene Bishow at @Marlene

The next meeting of JGSGW will take place on June 11, 2006. This will be a
joint meeting with JGSMD and the guest speaker will be genealogy journalist
Schelly Talalay Dardashti.

for additional information about JGSGW or for directions to our meeting, see
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsgw/

Marlene Bishow
VP Programs
JGSGW
Rockville, MD


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGSGW Washington, DC - "Daily Life in Galicia" #general

Marlene Bishow
 

The next meeting of the Jewish Genealogy Society of Greater Washington (DC)
will take place:

on May 7, 2006
at B'nai Israel Congregation, 6301 Montrose Road, Rockville, MD in the
Stearman Auditorium

Topic: Daily Life in Galicia
Speaker: Suzan Wynne

Noon-1:30 PM Board Meeting (No Workshop)
1:30 PM Schmooze
2:00 PM - 4:00 PM

Did you ever wonder what your ancestors' lives were like? Member and author,
Suzan Wynne will speak about daily life in the cities and shtetls of eastern
Europe, particularly in Galicia. An ample Q&A session will follow the
presentation, so be sure to bring questions.

Suzan is the author of the soon-to-be released "The Galitzianers: The Jews
of Galicia,1772-1918" and of "Finding Your Jewish Roots in Galicia," a
comprehensive guide to doing Galician-Jewish genealogical research. The
later book is currently out of print. and Suzan Wynne, is the founding
president of Gesher Galicia, the Special Interest Group for Jewish
genealogy. She has been doing Galician genealogical research for more than
25 years. Before retiring to pursue a mental health consultation and
supervision practice, Suzan developed and directed a large, private
outpatient mental health center in Montgomery County.

Guests are welcome. For additional information about this meeting, contact
Marlene Bishow at @Marlene

The next meeting of JGSGW will take place on June 11, 2006. This will be a
joint meeting with JGSMD and the guest speaker will be genealogy journalist
Schelly Talalay Dardashti.

for additional information about JGSGW or for directions to our meeting, see
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgsgw/

Marlene Bishow
VP Programs
JGSGW
Rockville, MD


JFRA Israel - Ra'anana - Wed., May 10 #general

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
 

JFRA members and friends are invited to the next
Ra'anana branch meeting:

7.30 pm, Wednesday, 10 May

Chava Seller
"How I found out what happened to Uri's father"

After years of research, Chava will tell how she
discovered what happened to her husband's father who
disappeared in 1930s Germany.

Her story-- describing the countless letters,
applications for information, dead ends and
frustrations -- concludes with her success.

Through her experiences, attendees will learn "what is
available where" in the German archives she searched.

Beit Fisher, 5 Klausner St., Ra'anana
Doors open at 7 p.m, program begins at 7.30 p.m.
Fee including refreshments: JFRA members, NIS 5; others, NIS 20.

Info: Branch chair Ingrid Rockberger, ingrid@....

Best wishes,

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
President, JFRA Israel
schelly@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JFRA Israel - Ra'anana - Wed., May 10 #general

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
 

JFRA members and friends are invited to the next
Ra'anana branch meeting:

7.30 pm, Wednesday, 10 May

Chava Seller
"How I found out what happened to Uri's father"

After years of research, Chava will tell how she
discovered what happened to her husband's father who
disappeared in 1930s Germany.

Her story-- describing the countless letters,
applications for information, dead ends and
frustrations -- concludes with her success.

Through her experiences, attendees will learn "what is
available where" in the German archives she searched.

Beit Fisher, 5 Klausner St., Ra'anana
Doors open at 7 p.m, program begins at 7.30 p.m.
Fee including refreshments: JFRA members, NIS 5; others, NIS 20.

Info: Branch chair Ingrid Rockberger, ingrid@....

Best wishes,

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
President, JFRA Israel
schelly@...


JFRA Israel - Petah Tikva - Wed., 17 May #general

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
 

JFRA members and friends are cordially invited to the
next Petah Tikva branch meeting.

8 p.m., Wednesday, 17 May

Author/genealogist Chaim Freedman
"Davidic Dynasty: A preview of the Jerusalem reunion
of descendants of King David in June 2007"

Chaim is a prolific writer and researcher and one of
the main forces behind this 2007 conference.

Location: The Freedman home, Petah Tikvah

Reservations are essential.
Info//address/reservations: Co-chair Gilda Kurtzman,
gilda@... or co-chair Susan Edel,
susan@....

Best wishes,
Schelly Talalay Dardasht
Tel Aviv
President, JFRA Israel
schelly@...


JFRA Israel - Rehovot - Thurs., 11 May #general

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
 

All JFRA members and friends are invited to the next
meeting of JFRA's Rehovot branch.

7.30 p.m., Thursday, 11 May

Israel Pickholz
"The Pickholz Project Puzzles"

Israel will present studies >from a single surname project.

Fee: JFRA paid members, no charge; others, NIS 20.

For location (private home) and reservations contact
JFRA Rehovot chair Linda Geffon, linda@...

Best wishes,

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
President, JFRA Israel
schelly@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JFRA Israel - Petah Tikva - Wed., 17 May #general

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
 

JFRA members and friends are cordially invited to the
next Petah Tikva branch meeting.

8 p.m., Wednesday, 17 May

Author/genealogist Chaim Freedman
"Davidic Dynasty: A preview of the Jerusalem reunion
of descendants of King David in June 2007"

Chaim is a prolific writer and researcher and one of
the main forces behind this 2007 conference.

Location: The Freedman home, Petah Tikvah

Reservations are essential.
Info//address/reservations: Co-chair Gilda Kurtzman,
gilda@... or co-chair Susan Edel,
susan@....

Best wishes,
Schelly Talalay Dardasht
Tel Aviv
President, JFRA Israel
schelly@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JFRA Israel - Rehovot - Thurs., 11 May #general

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
 

All JFRA members and friends are invited to the next
meeting of JFRA's Rehovot branch.

7.30 p.m., Thursday, 11 May

Israel Pickholz
"The Pickholz Project Puzzles"

Israel will present studies >from a single surname project.

Fee: JFRA paid members, no charge; others, NIS 20.

For location (private home) and reservations contact
JFRA Rehovot chair Linda Geffon, linda@...

Best wishes,

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
President, JFRA Israel
schelly@...


: Given Name of GIPO'L ? ; now on Viewmate #hungary

Ed Zwieback <ezwieback@...>
 

Thanks to the many replies I received, I now am certain that the given name
is LIPO'T v. LE'B (hebrew). This is a common hungarian name with the
english equivalent of Leopold. The hand written capital letter L , in that
1800's style, looks very much like a G, in today's style.
I appreciate all the help on this.
Regards,
Ed Zwieback
Long Beach, CA
with personal family at http://ezwieback.com/ZPK-p/index.htm
--------------Reference posting
With reference to my 20 April request for help (included below), it
was suggested that I post the given name entry on JewishGen Viewmate
to help decipher the name. The entry, line 32 is shown at
VM7762 ;>
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7762

In addition, to include more samples of the handwriting, I have put
more of
the same page at VM7763; at>
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7763
. You can see another entry of the same given name " KOHN Gipo'l".
Looking at it again, maybe it is Lipo't ?


Hungary SIG #Hungary : Given Name of GIPO'L ? ; now on Viewmate #hungary

Ed Zwieback <ezwieback@...>
 

Thanks to the many replies I received, I now am certain that the given name
is LIPO'T v. LE'B (hebrew). This is a common hungarian name with the
english equivalent of Leopold. The hand written capital letter L , in that
1800's style, looks very much like a G, in today's style.
I appreciate all the help on this.
Regards,
Ed Zwieback
Long Beach, CA
with personal family at http://ezwieback.com/ZPK-p/index.htm
--------------Reference posting
With reference to my 20 April request for help (included below), it
was suggested that I post the given name entry on JewishGen Viewmate
to help decipher the name. The entry, line 32 is shown at
VM7762 ;>
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7762

In addition, to include more samples of the handwriting, I have put
more of
the same page at VM7763; at>
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=7763
. You can see another entry of the same given name " KOHN Gipo'l".
Looking at it again, maybe it is Lipo't ?


Re: *Re: Dismoshowa ??, Hungary #hungary

tom klein <h-sig@...>
 

The first rule of using these online databases (such as ellis island or yad vashem) is: always, always, always look at the scanned image, if it's available.

in this case, it is line 22 of the manifest at:

<http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipmanifest.asp?FNM=GYORGY&LNM=GERGELY&PLNM=GERGELY&CGD=M&first_kind=1&last_kind=0&TOWN=null&SHIP=null&RF=20&pID=104239080067&MID=02805580540250832832&>.

with only a little bit of magnification, the place of birth is quite clearly written as "disznoshorvat" (which is in Borsod megye).

the trouble with d-m soundex is that it doesn't take into account hungarian spelling or pronunciation ("dish-mosh-hova"), and so it can be misleading. a variation, based on hungarian rather than Polish/russian/yiddish, would be very handy.


....... tom klein, toronto

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...> wrote:

A Soundex analysis reveals that DISMOSHOWA and TEMESVAR are phonetically very similar. TIMOSOARA too.

Peter <thidas@...> wrote:

If you say it quickly, it sound like Temesvar.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: *Re: Dismoshowa ??, Hungary #hungary

tom klein <h-sig@...>
 

The first rule of using these online databases (such as ellis island or yad vashem) is: always, always, always look at the scanned image, if it's available.

in this case, it is line 22 of the manifest at:

<http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipmanifest.asp?FNM=GYORGY&LNM=GERGELY&PLNM=GERGELY&CGD=M&first_kind=1&last_kind=0&TOWN=null&SHIP=null&RF=20&pID=104239080067&MID=02805580540250832832&>.

with only a little bit of magnification, the place of birth is quite clearly written as "disznoshorvat" (which is in Borsod megye).

the trouble with d-m soundex is that it doesn't take into account hungarian spelling or pronunciation ("dish-mosh-hova"), and so it can be misleading. a variation, based on hungarian rather than Polish/russian/yiddish, would be very handy.


....... tom klein, toronto

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...> wrote:

A Soundex analysis reveals that DISMOSHOWA and TEMESVAR are phonetically very similar. TIMOSOARA too.

Peter <thidas@...> wrote:

If you say it quickly, it sound like Temesvar.


Re: Procedures at Ellis Island: Was the newcomer given... #general

Roger Lustig <julierog@...>
 

Regarding "name change at Ellis Island"--

You refer to "official papers" on which something was written down.
What kind of papers would those have been? Given the zillions of people
who passed through Ellis Island, wouldn't some of those papers survive?

If Ms. Suberman *has* such a document, or knows where to find one, I'm
sure many people would be interested. If not, we're left with the fact
of the check-marks on the manifests. What does the manifest say about
her father?

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA

adamsny@... wrote:

*****
If there is any truth to the book "The Jew Store," written by Stella Suberman
(excellent book), it happened to her father when he arrived at Ellis Island.

According to the author her father left Podolska and immigrated to the United
States around 1910 +/-. Her father spoke Yiddish and a bit of Russian. When
asked his name by officials at Ellis Island, Stella's father, not speaking
English, did not answer. Asked again he answered "Avram Droskowitz." It was
written down on the official papers. The name used in America? Aaron Bronson.
The store was named Bronson's Low-Priced Store.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Procedures at Ellis Island: Was the newcomer given... #general

Roger Lustig <julierog@...>
 

Regarding "name change at Ellis Island"--

You refer to "official papers" on which something was written down.
What kind of papers would those have been? Given the zillions of people
who passed through Ellis Island, wouldn't some of those papers survive?

If Ms. Suberman *has* such a document, or knows where to find one, I'm
sure many people would be interested. If not, we're left with the fact
of the check-marks on the manifests. What does the manifest say about
her father?

Roger Lustig Princeton, NJ USA

adamsny@... wrote:

*****
If there is any truth to the book "The Jew Store," written by Stella Suberman
(excellent book), it happened to her father when he arrived at Ellis Island.

According to the author her father left Podolska and immigrated to the United
States around 1910 +/-. Her father spoke Yiddish and a bit of Russian. When
asked his name by officials at Ellis Island, Stella's father, not speaking
English, did not answer. Asked again he answered "Avram Droskowitz." It was
written down on the official papers. The name used in America? Aaron Bronson.
The store was named Bronson's Low-Priced Store.


Re: .... Questions about Naturalization Distric #2 #general

HJB <hjb@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
Ilya Zeldes of Fort Myers, Florida wrote
"2x-148658 1/28/43" is a handwritten notation on a passenger record. It
means that a Certificate of Arrival was sent to the Naturalization District
#2 on January 28, 1943. According to information available, the District #2
was the INS Naturalization Office in New York, NY. Its boundary and Jurisdiction
were in the Southern NY.May someone please tell me where this office was and
where it is now (the street address)? I mean, where should I write to and
ask for > records?
.................
Jef Barnett of Bensalem, PA responded:

Having just gone thru the process of trying to find someone using a similar
notation, it is not as easy as would be hoped>
The cert of arrival number is NOT something that is indexed anywhere. I just
means that the petition for naturalization was applied for in the Southern
District of NY (hence the #2-) but as the people at the US naturalization
office in Manhattan told me (that's were the original records for that
district are held), the person may never have completed the process, or gone
to another district to get naturalized. May even been naturalized at a city
court not federal!.
The federal records are on the http://italiangen.org site and indexed by name.
I believe that this is only a listing of those who finalized their
naturalization process after 1906. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm
wondering if anyone has suggestions for pursuing records for those who
initiated and finalized the process prior to 1906 or only initiated the
process prior to 1906.

Thanks,

Hazel Sandow Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Researching: HABER - Konyushki & Zurow, Galicia, NYC;
STARK - Bobrka, Galicia, NYC; BELY - Rzeszow, Galicia;
MONDSCHEIN - Brod, Galicia;
SADOVSKI/SADOWSKY - Belchatow & Lodz, Poland, NYC;
KANET/KANNETT/KANNATT - Czyzewo, Poland, NYC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: .... Questions about Naturalization Distric #2 #general

HJB <hjb@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
Ilya Zeldes of Fort Myers, Florida wrote
"2x-148658 1/28/43" is a handwritten notation on a passenger record. It
means that a Certificate of Arrival was sent to the Naturalization District
#2 on January 28, 1943. According to information available, the District #2
was the INS Naturalization Office in New York, NY. Its boundary and Jurisdiction
were in the Southern NY.May someone please tell me where this office was and
where it is now (the street address)? I mean, where should I write to and
ask for > records?
.................
Jef Barnett of Bensalem, PA responded:

Having just gone thru the process of trying to find someone using a similar
notation, it is not as easy as would be hoped>
The cert of arrival number is NOT something that is indexed anywhere. I just
means that the petition for naturalization was applied for in the Southern
District of NY (hence the #2-) but as the people at the US naturalization
office in Manhattan told me (that's were the original records for that
district are held), the person may never have completed the process, or gone
to another district to get naturalized. May even been naturalized at a city
court not federal!.
The federal records are on the http://italiangen.org site and indexed by name.
I believe that this is only a listing of those who finalized their
naturalization process after 1906. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm
wondering if anyone has suggestions for pursuing records for those who
initiated and finalized the process prior to 1906 or only initiated the
process prior to 1906.

Thanks,

Hazel Sandow Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada
Researching: HABER - Konyushki & Zurow, Galicia, NYC;
STARK - Bobrka, Galicia, NYC; BELY - Rzeszow, Galicia;
MONDSCHEIN - Brod, Galicia;
SADOVSKI/SADOWSKY - Belchatow & Lodz, Poland, NYC;
KANET/KANNETT/KANNATT - Czyzewo, Poland, NYC


And yet another German-Jewish genealogy program at the IAJGS Conference in August! #germany

Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
 

In two earlier messages, I mentioned seven lectures of special
interest to German-Jewish researchers at the August 2006
Conference on Jewish Genealogy in New York -- talks by James Bauer,
Simone Eick, Werner Frank, Karen Franklin, Roger Lustig, and Fritz Neubauer.

There's one more -- Martha Lev-Zion's conference lecture on
"Thieves and Parnassim in Central European Jewish Communities
in the Late Middle Ages." It's good to see the list growing.

For a description of these and almost 200 more programs to be
offered at the Conference, see:

www.jgsny2006.org/sessions.cfm

To register, go to: www.jgsny2006.org/registration.cfm
(by May 15 for the "early-bird" rate).

Renee Stern Steinig Dix Hills, New York, USA renee@...


German SIG #Germany And yet another German-Jewish genealogy program at the IAJGS Conference in August! #germany

Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
 

In two earlier messages, I mentioned seven lectures of special
interest to German-Jewish researchers at the August 2006
Conference on Jewish Genealogy in New York -- talks by James Bauer,
Simone Eick, Werner Frank, Karen Franklin, Roger Lustig, and Fritz Neubauer.

There's one more -- Martha Lev-Zion's conference lecture on
"Thieves and Parnassim in Central European Jewish Communities
in the Late Middle Ages." It's good to see the list growing.

For a description of these and almost 200 more programs to be
offered at the Conference, see:

www.jgsny2006.org/sessions.cfm

To register, go to: www.jgsny2006.org/registration.cfm
(by May 15 for the "early-bird" rate).

Renee Stern Steinig Dix Hills, New York, USA renee@...