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Re: litvaksig digest: August 16, 2006 #lithuania

Henry Propp <hpropp@...>
 

Reference: "Extraordinary State Commission to Investigate German-Fascist
Crimes Committed on Soviet Territory". These records have been available
from the Holocaust Museum in Washington, D.C. They have been translated
into English. I received these records for Skaudvile about five years ago.
At the time you identify the records you wanted on line and then request
them via regular mail paying a nominal fee to the museum for the records.

Hank Propp



|Subject: Soviet Holocaust Records
|From: SELIGMAN <jon_sel@netvision.net.il>
|Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:56:01 +0200
|X-Message-Number: 2
|
|Yad Vashem has recently placed copies of records of the
|"Extraordinary State Commission to Investigate German-Fascist
|Crimes Committed on Soviet Territory" on their website. This
|extraordinary source contains comprehensive lists compiled by
|the Soviet authorities of those killed during the Nazi
|occupation. The documents are in Russian, but are not too
|difficult to read even for non-Russian speakers.
|
|


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania RE: litvaksig digest: August 16, 2006 #lithuania

Henry Propp <hpropp@...>
 

Reference: "Extraordinary State Commission to Investigate German-Fascist
Crimes Committed on Soviet Territory". These records have been available
from the Holocaust Museum in Washington, D.C. They have been translated
into English. I received these records for Skaudvile about five years ago.
At the time you identify the records you wanted on line and then request
them via regular mail paying a nominal fee to the museum for the records.

Hank Propp



|Subject: Soviet Holocaust Records
|From: SELIGMAN <jon_sel@netvision.net.il>
|Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:56:01 +0200
|X-Message-Number: 2
|
|Yad Vashem has recently placed copies of records of the
|"Extraordinary State Commission to Investigate German-Fascist
|Crimes Committed on Soviet Territory" on their website. This
|extraordinary source contains comprehensive lists compiled by
|the Soviet authorities of those killed during the Nazi
|occupation. The documents are in Russian, but are not too
|difficult to read even for non-Russian speakers.
|
|


Mazel tov #lithuania

daniel edel <edeldaniel@...>
 

Dear new board Mmebers, congratulation of your election and I will wish
to all of you the best,your work and your effort is extremely big and
very important for all Jews in this world,we have to work hard that new
generations never forget what happened with us. Thank you for all.

Sincerely Hugs
Daniel Edel
Bogota- Colombia- South America


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Mazel tov #lithuania

daniel edel <edeldaniel@...>
 

Dear new board Mmebers, congratulation of your election and I will wish
to all of you the best,your work and your effort is extremely big and
very important for all Jews in this world,we have to work hard that new
generations never forget what happened with us. Thank you for all.

Sincerely Hugs
Daniel Edel
Bogota- Colombia- South America


CHAIM ZOLTY #ukraine

franck
 

Chaim Zolty is dead in Lviv 31/01/1942 (45 years ago) , his last adress was
Alembekow 11(Alembeków), he was buried in 02 Apr 1942, I would like to have
the page 397 in Number 645.
I send you informations about Chaïm Zolty :
Cemetery ID : UKR-01157
Cemetery Location
Country : Ukraine
City : Lviv
Cemetery Details
Number of Burials : 7772
Cemetery description
The city of Lviv, Ukraine was formerly Lvov, USSR; Lwow, Poland; and
Lemberg, Austrian Empire. Included in this cemetery data are files >from 1941
and 1942, written in both the Roman and Cyrillic alphabets.
The data for this cemetery is contain within both JOWBR and the JewishGen
Holocaust Database.
For complete details about this cemetery, see
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/holocaust/0033_Lviv_cemetery.html

Best regars,

Franck d'Almeida-Zolty
Saint-Quentin
France

Please contact me : franck.d-almeida@wanadoo.fr


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine CHAIM ZOLTY #ukraine

franck
 

Chaim Zolty is dead in Lviv 31/01/1942 (45 years ago) , his last adress was
Alembekow 11(Alembeków), he was buried in 02 Apr 1942, I would like to have
the page 397 in Number 645.
I send you informations about Chaïm Zolty :
Cemetery ID : UKR-01157
Cemetery Location
Country : Ukraine
City : Lviv
Cemetery Details
Number of Burials : 7772
Cemetery description
The city of Lviv, Ukraine was formerly Lvov, USSR; Lwow, Poland; and
Lemberg, Austrian Empire. Included in this cemetery data are files >from 1941
and 1942, written in both the Roman and Cyrillic alphabets.
The data for this cemetery is contain within both JOWBR and the JewishGen
Holocaust Database.
For complete details about this cemetery, see
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/holocaust/0033_Lviv_cemetery.html

Best regars,

Franck d'Almeida-Zolty
Saint-Quentin
France

Please contact me : franck.d-almeida@wanadoo.fr


Berlin guide #germany

Connie Fisher Newhan
 

Hello,
We will be making a first trip to Germany, visiting Berlin (and Coln) next
month. I wonder if someone might be able to recommend a guide for us while in
Berlin. Best Regards,

Connie Fisher Newhan (#1272) California, USA YLCA87@aol.com


German SIG #Germany Berlin guide #germany

Connie Fisher Newhan
 

Hello,
We will be making a first trip to Germany, visiting Berlin (and Coln) next
month. I wonder if someone might be able to recommend a guide for us while in
Berlin. Best Regards,

Connie Fisher Newhan (#1272) California, USA YLCA87@aol.com


Re: Help locating info in Vienna #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Rich Goldhaber wrote:

<BBallRichG@aol.com> wrote

I am trying to trace my ancestry back to the mid 1800's
I have my grandfather's date of birth, the names of his parents, the
location where he claimed he was born.

He claimed he was born in Galicia, Austria.

I will be in Vienna next month and would appreciate it if anyone knows
where
I might go to try to find either my grandfather's birth certificate or my
great grandfathers Death certificate, marriage certificate or birth
certificate
(my guess is that he was born in the mid 1850"s or early 1860's).

I would also like to find out if my grandfather had any sisters or
brothers.

I am a rank amateur at this and need all the help I can get.
Rich,

I am afraid that you will be unable to locate any vital records in Vienna
for person born in Galicia.

If your ancestor was born in Galicia, all Jewish records have been retain by
the archives of the administration town district of town where your gfather
was born. Records were not transferred to Vienna.

In 1918, when Poland has reestablish its independence, all Jewish Galicia
records were transferred to the Poland Government Registry offices known as
USC (Urzad Stanu Cywilnego).

In 1945/6 nearly all Polish _Eastern_ Galician records, (if they have
survived) have been transferred to Warsaw archives. Records over 100 years
old have been deposited in AGAD (Old) Archives, and records less than 100
years old have been retain by the Warsaw USC offices. As records at USC
aging over 100 years old they are transfered on the annual basis to AGAD.

Records >from the _Western_ Galicia, if survived, have been retain at the
same location where they have been deposited prior to WWI and/or WWII.

Since you are already in possession of your gfather birth town name, go to
JRI-P or All Poland database and identify administration district where your
gfather was born.

You can also order on line detailed records directly

JRI-P
http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/jriplweb.htm

All Poland database:

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Poland/

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Help locating info in Vienna #general

Alexander Sharon
 

Rich Goldhaber wrote:

<BBallRichG@aol.com> wrote

I am trying to trace my ancestry back to the mid 1800's
I have my grandfather's date of birth, the names of his parents, the
location where he claimed he was born.

He claimed he was born in Galicia, Austria.

I will be in Vienna next month and would appreciate it if anyone knows
where
I might go to try to find either my grandfather's birth certificate or my
great grandfathers Death certificate, marriage certificate or birth
certificate
(my guess is that he was born in the mid 1850"s or early 1860's).

I would also like to find out if my grandfather had any sisters or
brothers.

I am a rank amateur at this and need all the help I can get.
Rich,

I am afraid that you will be unable to locate any vital records in Vienna
for person born in Galicia.

If your ancestor was born in Galicia, all Jewish records have been retain by
the archives of the administration town district of town where your gfather
was born. Records were not transferred to Vienna.

In 1918, when Poland has reestablish its independence, all Jewish Galicia
records were transferred to the Poland Government Registry offices known as
USC (Urzad Stanu Cywilnego).

In 1945/6 nearly all Polish _Eastern_ Galician records, (if they have
survived) have been transferred to Warsaw archives. Records over 100 years
old have been deposited in AGAD (Old) Archives, and records less than 100
years old have been retain by the Warsaw USC offices. As records at USC
aging over 100 years old they are transfered on the annual basis to AGAD.

Records >from the _Western_ Galicia, if survived, have been retain at the
same location where they have been deposited prior to WWI and/or WWII.

Since you are already in possession of your gfather birth town name, go to
JRI-P or All Poland database and identify administration district where your
gfather was born.

You can also order on line detailed records directly

JRI-P
http://www.jewishgen.org/JRI-PL/jriplweb.htm

All Poland database:

http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Poland/

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


Re: GOLDHABER; was: Help locating info in Vienna #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Rich Goldhaber writes: <I am trying to trace my ancestry back to the
mid 1800's I have my grandfather's date of birth, the names of his
parents, the location where he claimed he was born. He claimed he was
born in Galicia, Austria.

I will be in Vienna next month and would appreciate it if anyone
knows where I might go to try to find either my grandfather's birth
certificate or my great grandfather's death certificate, marriage
certificate or birth certificate (my guess is that he was born in the
mid 1850's or early 1860's). I would also like to find out if my
grandfather had any sisters or brothers.>

The Moderator has already told Rick that the Austria-Czech Sig is the
one for this type of query and more detailed information:
http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/

Here are a few general points:

1. It would have helped greatly to have a family name, first names
and approximate dates! I assume Rick is talking about GOLDHABER - but
was the maternal side called? Here are GOLDHABER burials in Vienna

Gate 1: Earlier burials
Goldhaber Emil age 28 died 05.05.1879 7/8/10 [gt gt uncle perhaps?]
a couple: Gt-grandparents perhaps?
Goldhaber Marie age 59 died 09.08.1919 49A/12/42A
Goldhaber Simon age 54 died 30.01.1916 TOR 49A/12/42A

Gate IV: later burials
Goldhaber Agarthe vel Gitel age 60 died 11.05.1918 3/26/20
Goldhaber Nachmann age 53 died 0.05.1924 11/28/69
Goldhaber Fritz age 42 died 23.05.1934 22/2/14
Goldhaber Abraham age 65 died 20.10.1935 21/21/ 8
Goldhaber Eisen age 64 died 06.05.1939 20A/13/56
Goldhaber Hersch age 56 died 23.09.1953 18A/15/3

All these graves can be visited but it is hard to find your way
around these ***huge*** cemeteries.

2.The Israelitische Kultusgemeinde {IKG} Seitenstettengasse, Vienna
holds all the BMD certificates but it does not hold any BMD
certificates >from Galicia. Vienna certificates often have annotations
in the margins of BMD certificate of people >from Galicia who were
entered in the Vienna BMD registers. These might give clues as to
origins, marriage dates [of parents in Galicia], parents names etc.

Unfortunately this year, the IKG will be closed between Sept 4 - Sept
15. 2006. The IKG is also closed during the Jewish holidays. It is
best to make an appointment.

3. If Galicians arrived in Vienna before 1900 there is more chance of
finding family links, by searching special registers [hard to read
-in old German script].

4. If family members died in Vienna - you will be much luckier as
even more data can be retrieved >from Todfallsaufnahme, wills etc [not
the death certificate ].

5. Please read the section "Beginner's Guide to Austrian-Jewish
Genealogy" by E. Randol Schoenberg:
http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/ausguide.htm on our website.

There are many records [Todsfallaufnahme - Wills] kept at the Wiener
Stadt und Landesarchiv [Gasometer]. If you know what you are doing,
you can often find a lot of valuable data on families of Galician
origin - which at least 8 Jewishgenners will confirm, when I dug up
unexpected data for them!

A beginner, who does not speak or read German would find it very hard
to do this research unaided.

6. Austrian holocaust records: three GOLDHABER >from Vienna were
murdered - two were >from Lemberg [Lwow], Galicia:

Szymon GOLDHABER born 15.11.1896 [Lemberg] and probably his mother
Chaje born 20.07.1872 [Lemberg]; origins of Gertrude GOLDHABER born
21.03.1876, unknown. We remember them here today. Chaje {Klara} and
Szymon {Simon} have POTs on Yad Vashem >from family in Israel.

7. If you have Vienna addresses of GOLDHABER after 1900 [and there
are means of getting these] - you can get a huge amount of
genealogical information >from Vienna residency registers.

In summary, Vienna has a huge amount of data on its inhabitants, but
it needs a lot of work, preparation and expertise to dig it out.
Rich has left it *very late* to start this before his trip in
September.

Celia Male [U.K.]


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: GOLDHABER; was: Help locating info in Vienna #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Rich Goldhaber writes: <I am trying to trace my ancestry back to the
mid 1800's I have my grandfather's date of birth, the names of his
parents, the location where he claimed he was born. He claimed he was
born in Galicia, Austria.

I will be in Vienna next month and would appreciate it if anyone
knows where I might go to try to find either my grandfather's birth
certificate or my great grandfather's death certificate, marriage
certificate or birth certificate (my guess is that he was born in the
mid 1850's or early 1860's). I would also like to find out if my
grandfather had any sisters or brothers.>

The Moderator has already told Rick that the Austria-Czech Sig is the
one for this type of query and more detailed information:
http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/

Here are a few general points:

1. It would have helped greatly to have a family name, first names
and approximate dates! I assume Rick is talking about GOLDHABER - but
was the maternal side called? Here are GOLDHABER burials in Vienna

Gate 1: Earlier burials
Goldhaber Emil age 28 died 05.05.1879 7/8/10 [gt gt uncle perhaps?]
a couple: Gt-grandparents perhaps?
Goldhaber Marie age 59 died 09.08.1919 49A/12/42A
Goldhaber Simon age 54 died 30.01.1916 TOR 49A/12/42A

Gate IV: later burials
Goldhaber Agarthe vel Gitel age 60 died 11.05.1918 3/26/20
Goldhaber Nachmann age 53 died 0.05.1924 11/28/69
Goldhaber Fritz age 42 died 23.05.1934 22/2/14
Goldhaber Abraham age 65 died 20.10.1935 21/21/ 8
Goldhaber Eisen age 64 died 06.05.1939 20A/13/56
Goldhaber Hersch age 56 died 23.09.1953 18A/15/3

All these graves can be visited but it is hard to find your way
around these ***huge*** cemeteries.

2.The Israelitische Kultusgemeinde {IKG} Seitenstettengasse, Vienna
holds all the BMD certificates but it does not hold any BMD
certificates >from Galicia. Vienna certificates often have annotations
in the margins of BMD certificate of people >from Galicia who were
entered in the Vienna BMD registers. These might give clues as to
origins, marriage dates [of parents in Galicia], parents names etc.

Unfortunately this year, the IKG will be closed between Sept 4 - Sept
15. 2006. The IKG is also closed during the Jewish holidays. It is
best to make an appointment.

3. If Galicians arrived in Vienna before 1900 there is more chance of
finding family links, by searching special registers [hard to read
-in old German script].

4. If family members died in Vienna - you will be much luckier as
even more data can be retrieved >from Todfallsaufnahme, wills etc [not
the death certificate ].

5. Please read the section "Beginner's Guide to Austrian-Jewish
Genealogy" by E. Randol Schoenberg:
http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/ausguide.htm on our website.

There are many records [Todsfallaufnahme - Wills] kept at the Wiener
Stadt und Landesarchiv [Gasometer]. If you know what you are doing,
you can often find a lot of valuable data on families of Galician
origin - which at least 8 Jewishgenners will confirm, when I dug up
unexpected data for them!

A beginner, who does not speak or read German would find it very hard
to do this research unaided.

6. Austrian holocaust records: three GOLDHABER >from Vienna were
murdered - two were >from Lemberg [Lwow], Galicia:

Szymon GOLDHABER born 15.11.1896 [Lemberg] and probably his mother
Chaje born 20.07.1872 [Lemberg]; origins of Gertrude GOLDHABER born
21.03.1876, unknown. We remember them here today. Chaje {Klara} and
Szymon {Simon} have POTs on Yad Vashem >from family in Israel.

7. If you have Vienna addresses of GOLDHABER after 1900 [and there
are means of getting these] - you can get a huge amount of
genealogical information >from Vienna residency registers.

In summary, Vienna has a huge amount of data on its inhabitants, but
it needs a lot of work, preparation and expertise to dig it out.
Rich has left it *very late* to start this before his trip in
September.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Re: Manifest wanted on S.S. Cameronia #general

David Kravitz
 

Evelyn Fillipi asked "I am looking for a manifest of SS Cameronia ,,,,
from Glasgow, Scotland"
Such British manifests that exist, and there is no legal obligation to
retain them, can be found at the National Archives, Kew, England. Their
website is http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/
www.abdn.ac.uk/emigration/user-guide.html >from Aberdeen University might
also be helpful as might http://www.scotlandsfamily.com/ships-passengers.htm
that, in turn, gives further links.

Anchor Line Glasgow owners of the SS Cameronia, went into liquidation in
1935.

David Kravitz
Netanya, Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Manifest wanted on S.S. Cameronia #general

David Kravitz
 

Evelyn Fillipi asked "I am looking for a manifest of SS Cameronia ,,,,
from Glasgow, Scotland"
Such British manifests that exist, and there is no legal obligation to
retain them, can be found at the National Archives, Kew, England. Their
website is http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/
www.abdn.ac.uk/emigration/user-guide.html >from Aberdeen University might
also be helpful as might http://www.scotlandsfamily.com/ships-passengers.htm
that, in turn, gives further links.

Anchor Line Glasgow owners of the SS Cameronia, went into liquidation in
1935.

David Kravitz
Netanya, Israel


Spotlight on the BENGIS Family #general

Josh Marks <josh@...>
 

With the help of many fellow family conspirators, I have been focusing
on compiling the entire tree of the BENGIS family, which is born of
rabbinical roots in Vilna.

Notable family members include: Rabbi Zelig Reuven Bengis, writer Ingrid
Bengis, WWII POW veteran Henry Thomas Bengis, 1961 Yankees batboy Fred
Bengis, and magnate Arnold Bengis, aka the Lobster Mobster. And, of
course, the list would not be complete without mentioning my wonderful
grandmother, Rose Bengis.

While the family roots are Lithuanian, the family has spread to America,
South Africa, and has popped up in Germany, Cuba, Russia and hopefully
other countries.

If you have Bengis family members or are just interested, please see my
website at:
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/a/r/Joshua-J-Marks/WEBSITE-
0001/UHP-Index.html#Bengis

The site, I believe, is well documented, but particularly notable
contributions come >from Nicholas Friedman, Angela Lurie, Daniel Bengis,
Henry T. Bengis, and, of course, my grandparents, Rose (Bengis) and Ted
Marks.

I hope to hear >from you!

Thanks,
Josh Marks
josh@goldstargroup.com
Washington, DC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Spotlight on the BENGIS Family #general

Josh Marks <josh@...>
 

With the help of many fellow family conspirators, I have been focusing
on compiling the entire tree of the BENGIS family, which is born of
rabbinical roots in Vilna.

Notable family members include: Rabbi Zelig Reuven Bengis, writer Ingrid
Bengis, WWII POW veteran Henry Thomas Bengis, 1961 Yankees batboy Fred
Bengis, and magnate Arnold Bengis, aka the Lobster Mobster. And, of
course, the list would not be complete without mentioning my wonderful
grandmother, Rose Bengis.

While the family roots are Lithuanian, the family has spread to America,
South Africa, and has popped up in Germany, Cuba, Russia and hopefully
other countries.

If you have Bengis family members or are just interested, please see my
website at:
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/a/r/Joshua-J-Marks/WEBSITE-
0001/UHP-Index.html#Bengis

The site, I believe, is well documented, but particularly notable
contributions come >from Nicholas Friedman, Angela Lurie, Daniel Bengis,
Henry T. Bengis, and, of course, my grandparents, Rose (Bengis) and Ted
Marks.

I hope to hear >from you!

Thanks,
Josh Marks
josh@goldstargroup.com
Washington, DC


Kamenka on the Dneister historical photos #general

Marilyn Feingold <mrl516@...>
 

I am attempting to write a book about my family. Kamenka on the Dneister
River is where my story begins. Does anyone know where I can find some
historical photographs or old post cards of Kamenka ? Thanks in advance
for your suggestions or ideas. Marilyn Feingold


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Kamenka on the Dneister historical photos #general

Marilyn Feingold <mrl516@...>
 

I am attempting to write a book about my family. Kamenka on the Dneister
River is where my story begins. Does anyone know where I can find some
historical photographs or old post cards of Kamenka ? Thanks in advance
for your suggestions or ideas. Marilyn Feingold


Addresses of archivists in Germany and elsewhere #germany

MBernet@...
 

A few days ago I suggested that in Germany at least it was often more
productive to query the Stadtarchivist or the Staatsarchivist for information,
than to get it >from the Standesamt (local registrar).

I've had a number of enquiries >from genners requesting the specific contact
information.

Does anyone have a list or an url for finding
the appropriate local archivist's office?

Michael Bernet, New York MBernet@aol.com


Re: Death Certificate # - Morris KAUFMAN -Brooklyn #general

Lisa Bracco <lisa5bracco4@...>
 

Dear Sharen,
The website info I gave you for the office of vital records is an old
address. Here is the new one:

http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/home.html


Lisa

"SJ Hogarth" <sjhogarth@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
I am hoping that some kind soul would be willing to look up the death

certificate number for my great uncle, Morris KAUFMAN. Social Security
records indicate that he died in October 1974 - 11235, Brooklyn, Kings.
His
birth date is given as 15 March 1884 & S.I.N. # 115-10-8780.

Wish I could join all of you at the conference. Have a great time!

Kind regards,
Sharen Hogarth
Ontario, Canada