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Re: Searching for Aharon SHTEINMAN of Vileika #lithuania

Eilat Gordin Levitan
 

On 7/20/06, Judith27@aol.com wrote:

I am trying to help a friend who was born in Europe shortly after
the Holocaust ended to find a cousin of hers, Aharon Shteinman or Aharon
Shtayman, whom she was told might have survived.
Aharon Shteinman/Shtayman may have been >from Vileika, near Vilnius.
I created a site for Vileika, Vilna region (Today in Belarus)
http://www.eilatgordinlevitan.com/vileyka/vileyka.html

Sadly, you could find Aharon Shteinmans' name in the list of perished
in the Yizkor book >from Vileika. There is only one Shteinman family
(3 members, Aharon and his unnamed parents) on the list and it seems
that they did not know the names of the parents (most other adults on
the list were named by the survivors) There are pictures of those who
perished and amongst the pictures you find a picture of the "Shteinman
Family" together with the family of Yosef Shmukler.

I posted the picture at;
http://www.eilatgordinlevitan.com/vileyka/vileyka.html (Vileika
portraits)

Yosef Shmukler survived the war and died later on the way to Israel
but his wife and daughter perished during the war. Someone in Israel
had the picture, so it would be a good idea to get in touch with
Vileika survivors and see what they know. There are such people in
Kfar Haarif in Israel which was established by families of survivors
from Kurenets and Vileika, Shimon Zimerman (born in Kurenets, 4 miles
from Vileika, in 1923) is the head Kfar Harif and the Kurenets society.
His girlfriend is a survivor >from Vileika. They are both very
involved with the survivors and traveled many times back to the
Vileika area were they still have friends. They know much information
you should write or phone them as soon as possible.

Checking the Yad Vashem list I found 2 reports for Shteinmans >from the
area. One was by Avraham Shteinman who survived. He reported an uncle
from Kurenets. You should try to find him or his family in Israel.
There were a few cases of people who were reported as perished who
later were found to survive- could you write more details to me about
the family so I could post it on the Vileika site?

Thank you so much,
Eilat Gordin Levitan
Los Angeles


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Searching for Aharon SHTEINMAN of Vileika #lithuania

Eilat Gordin Levitan
 

On 7/20/06, Judith27@aol.com wrote:

I am trying to help a friend who was born in Europe shortly after
the Holocaust ended to find a cousin of hers, Aharon Shteinman or Aharon
Shtayman, whom she was told might have survived.
Aharon Shteinman/Shtayman may have been >from Vileika, near Vilnius.
I created a site for Vileika, Vilna region (Today in Belarus)
http://www.eilatgordinlevitan.com/vileyka/vileyka.html

Sadly, you could find Aharon Shteinmans' name in the list of perished
in the Yizkor book >from Vileika. There is only one Shteinman family
(3 members, Aharon and his unnamed parents) on the list and it seems
that they did not know the names of the parents (most other adults on
the list were named by the survivors) There are pictures of those who
perished and amongst the pictures you find a picture of the "Shteinman
Family" together with the family of Yosef Shmukler.

I posted the picture at;
http://www.eilatgordinlevitan.com/vileyka/vileyka.html (Vileika
portraits)

Yosef Shmukler survived the war and died later on the way to Israel
but his wife and daughter perished during the war. Someone in Israel
had the picture, so it would be a good idea to get in touch with
Vileika survivors and see what they know. There are such people in
Kfar Haarif in Israel which was established by families of survivors
from Kurenets and Vileika, Shimon Zimerman (born in Kurenets, 4 miles
from Vileika, in 1923) is the head Kfar Harif and the Kurenets society.
His girlfriend is a survivor >from Vileika. They are both very
involved with the survivors and traveled many times back to the
Vileika area were they still have friends. They know much information
you should write or phone them as soon as possible.

Checking the Yad Vashem list I found 2 reports for Shteinmans >from the
area. One was by Avraham Shteinman who survived. He reported an uncle
from Kurenets. You should try to find him or his family in Israel.
There were a few cases of people who were reported as perished who
later were found to survive- could you write more details to me about
the family so I could post it on the Vileika site?

Thank you so much,
Eilat Gordin Levitan
Los Angeles


Galician Records Mystery - Partial Solution #poland

Howard Fink <HowGen@...>
 

Last month I posted a message about a mystery related to
indices that JRI-Poland had received for Tarnow, but which
did not match up with any actual records in the Tarnow Archives.
There were two sets of unknown indices: 3240 Births and 2646
Deaths.

As a result of a very intuitive analysis by Marilyn Dornhelm, we
now know the true source of one set of these indices. The Birth
index is actually >from Tarnopol. This is not at all close to
Tarnow geographically, but very close alphabetically. A possible
explanation is that this set of indices was collected with many
other records during war years and then "returned" to the wrong
archive later on, possibly because of a torn or illegible label.
We are going to ask the Archivist to take a closer look. Perhaps
the old label is still there but hard to read or covered up.

This index does not match the index that JRI-Poland already has
for Tarnopol, because the surnames of the new-born child are
sometimes the mother's name rather than the father's (as they
are in the existing Tarnopol index). The given names are an
almost exact match with the previous Tarnopol index. Apparently
the newly discovered, mislabeled index was made using legal
surnames, reflecting whether or not the parents were married in
a civil ceremony, without regard to a religious marriage. We
will be looking at a way to integrate this information with the
Tarnopol index that is on-line already.

On behalf of JRI-Poland, I want to extend our deepest appreciation
to Marilyn Dornhelm for solving this mystery for us. At the same
time I would like to thank the many others who replied with ideas!

I have removed the Tarnopol Births >from the mystery file and placed
a new file containing only the mystery Deaths on-line. The file
also has a list of surnames, sorted both alphabetically and by
frequency. This new Excel file may be downloaded from:
http://www.jri-poland.org/TarnowMysteryDeaths.xls

Please take a second look at the surnames in this revised list and
see if you can help us find the true source of this last set of
records (Deaths 1877-1899, plus a small number through 1942).

Thank you,

Howard Fink
Tarnow Archive Coordinator
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


JRI Poland #Poland Galician Records Mystery - Partial Solution #poland

Howard Fink <HowGen@...>
 

Last month I posted a message about a mystery related to
indices that JRI-Poland had received for Tarnow, but which
did not match up with any actual records in the Tarnow Archives.
There were two sets of unknown indices: 3240 Births and 2646
Deaths.

As a result of a very intuitive analysis by Marilyn Dornhelm, we
now know the true source of one set of these indices. The Birth
index is actually >from Tarnopol. This is not at all close to
Tarnow geographically, but very close alphabetically. A possible
explanation is that this set of indices was collected with many
other records during war years and then "returned" to the wrong
archive later on, possibly because of a torn or illegible label.
We are going to ask the Archivist to take a closer look. Perhaps
the old label is still there but hard to read or covered up.

This index does not match the index that JRI-Poland already has
for Tarnopol, because the surnames of the new-born child are
sometimes the mother's name rather than the father's (as they
are in the existing Tarnopol index). The given names are an
almost exact match with the previous Tarnopol index. Apparently
the newly discovered, mislabeled index was made using legal
surnames, reflecting whether or not the parents were married in
a civil ceremony, without regard to a religious marriage. We
will be looking at a way to integrate this information with the
Tarnopol index that is on-line already.

On behalf of JRI-Poland, I want to extend our deepest appreciation
to Marilyn Dornhelm for solving this mystery for us. At the same
time I would like to thank the many others who replied with ideas!

I have removed the Tarnopol Births >from the mystery file and placed
a new file containing only the mystery Deaths on-line. The file
also has a list of surnames, sorted both alphabetically and by
frequency. This new Excel file may be downloaded from:
http://www.jri-poland.org/TarnowMysteryDeaths.xls

Please take a second look at the surnames in this revised list and
see if you can help us find the true source of this last set of
records (Deaths 1877-1899, plus a small number through 1942).

Thank you,

Howard Fink
Tarnow Archive Coordinator
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


Re naming patterns & religion #general

Sally Goodman <sbgoody@...>
 

Cyndee Meystel wrote:

My husband's great-grandmother always covered her hair (with a
"parouk" -- a forerunner of today's sheitel)
Judith Romney Wegner replied:

Presumably, "parouk" is a phonetic rendering of the French word "perruque" --
meaning wig. I have never heard anyone refer to a sheitel as a perruque, and am
wondering why your family did not simply call it a "sheitel." Were they French
Jews who perhaps no longer spoke Yiddish?

and I add: in our home my parents and grandparents (>from Vienna) called it a
"Perueke", the German word for wig. I did not know the word "sheitel" until
I was older and learned to understand Yiddish on my own. I presume my family
did not want to utter any Yiddish words, even though we lived in the US, out
of fear. I am sure that is why our Mezuzah was on the inside of our
apartment door and not outside for others to see.

Sally Goodman
Palm Springs/LA, CA
sbgoody@usa.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re naming patterns & religion #general

Sally Goodman <sbgoody@...>
 

Cyndee Meystel wrote:

My husband's great-grandmother always covered her hair (with a
"parouk" -- a forerunner of today's sheitel)
Judith Romney Wegner replied:

Presumably, "parouk" is a phonetic rendering of the French word "perruque" --
meaning wig. I have never heard anyone refer to a sheitel as a perruque, and am
wondering why your family did not simply call it a "sheitel." Were they French
Jews who perhaps no longer spoke Yiddish?

and I add: in our home my parents and grandparents (>from Vienna) called it a
"Perueke", the German word for wig. I did not know the word "sheitel" until
I was older and learned to understand Yiddish on my own. I presume my family
did not want to utter any Yiddish words, even though we lived in the US, out
of fear. I am sure that is why our Mezuzah was on the inside of our
apartment door and not outside for others to see.

Sally Goodman
Palm Springs/LA, CA
sbgoody@usa.net


Rabbi Shmuel Ungar #rabbinic

NRD1616@...
 

I am looking for info on a Rav Shmuel, Rav in Wolbrom, before 1800.
Dynner, in "Men of Silk," mentions a Rav Samuel Ungar, Rav of Olkasz
and previously >from Pilca, around 1806.

Since all 3 towns/villages, are in the same vicinity and interacted
with each other, both politically and socially, I'm wondering if
this might be the Rav Shmuel, Rav of Wolbrom.

Can anyone help?

N. Dreyfuss


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Rabbi Shmuel Ungar #rabbinic

NRD1616@...
 

I am looking for info on a Rav Shmuel, Rav in Wolbrom, before 1800.
Dynner, in "Men of Silk," mentions a Rav Samuel Ungar, Rav of Olkasz
and previously >from Pilca, around 1806.

Since all 3 towns/villages, are in the same vicinity and interacted
with each other, both politically and socially, I'm wondering if
this might be the Rav Shmuel, Rav of Wolbrom.

Can anyone help?

N. Dreyfuss


Seeking Zofi KUKLA from Austria-Hungry to USA in 1883 #germany

tina ramsey
 

Hello good people,
I am looking for my great grandmother's family tree. Her name was Zofi
KUKLA and was born on the 18th of july 1874. She was >from Austria-Hungry
and she immigrated to the United States in the year of 1883, she was 10 yrs
of age. Her family settled in Luzerne, Pennsylvania and she married Joh
BARTEK on the 2nd of August 1890. I would like any help >from anyone that
could put me in the right direction in obtaining any information about her
especially where she came >from in Germany. Thank you all so much

Marie Charles Ipwich, England <tina.rie@hotmail.com>

MODERATOR NOTE: Austria-Hungary was the name of an Empire that existed in Europe
to the east of Germany prior to World War I. There is a Special Interest Group
(SIG) dedicated to the genealogy of Jewish families >from that area. Our SIG
(GerSIG) is focused on Jewish families >from present day or historic Germany.
Your question would be more appropriate for the Austria - Hungary SIG list. MOD1


German SIG #Germany Seeking Zofi KUKLA from Austria-Hungry to USA in 1883 #germany

tina ramsey
 

Hello good people,
I am looking for my great grandmother's family tree. Her name was Zofi
KUKLA and was born on the 18th of july 1874. She was >from Austria-Hungry
and she immigrated to the United States in the year of 1883, she was 10 yrs
of age. Her family settled in Luzerne, Pennsylvania and she married Joh
BARTEK on the 2nd of August 1890. I would like any help >from anyone that
could put me in the right direction in obtaining any information about her
especially where she came >from in Germany. Thank you all so much

Marie Charles Ipwich, England <tina.rie@hotmail.com>

MODERATOR NOTE: Austria-Hungary was the name of an Empire that existed in Europe
to the east of Germany prior to World War I. There is a Special Interest Group
(SIG) dedicated to the genealogy of Jewish families >from that area. Our SIG
(GerSIG) is focused on Jewish families >from present day or historic Germany.
Your question would be more appropriate for the Austria - Hungary SIG list. MOD1


Searching in France for two brothers - both Doctors #france

Stan Zeidenberg
 

I am searching for a family in France. The only clues I have are:

1) There are two brothers, both doctors.
2) I only have the given names which are Daniel and Marc.
3) They have a sister, Michelle.
4) Their mother is Irene
5) The doctors could possibly be practising in either Paris or Strassburg

Note: The people I am seeking are related to an aquaintance. The
aqquaintance does not have access to Internet.

STAN ZEIDENBERG
Toronto, Canada


French SIG #France Searching in France for two brothers - both Doctors #france

Stan Zeidenberg
 

I am searching for a family in France. The only clues I have are:

1) There are two brothers, both doctors.
2) I only have the given names which are Daniel and Marc.
3) They have a sister, Michelle.
4) Their mother is Irene
5) The doctors could possibly be practising in either Paris or Strassburg

Note: The people I am seeking are related to an aquaintance. The
aqquaintance does not have access to Internet.

STAN ZEIDENBERG
Toronto, Canada


Re: Census Records #france

Stephane Toublanc <toublanc@...>
 

Census are organized town by town, gathered in the "Archives
Departementales". There are 90 departements in metropolitan France.

For Paris for instance, you have to know an adress. You have to look, street
after street, and for each house in a street, you will find home after home,
names of the inhabitants. There is no other way.

Regards

Stephane Toublanc
Paris - France

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackye Sullins" <jsullins@san.rr.com>
To: "French SIG" <frenchsig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:46 PM
Subject: Re:[frenchsig] Census Records

What about the rest of France? And where and how can they be accessed?

Jackye Sullins
San Diego


Subject: Re : Census Records
From: "Abensur" <laurphil@wanadoo.fr>
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:06:37 +0200
X-Message-Number: 1

There is no Population Census for Paris before 1926. For this city, there
are Censuses with nominative data for the years 1926, 1931, 1936 and
1946.

Sincerely,
Laurence Abensur-Hazan (Mrs)

Subject: Census Records
From: "Jackye Sullins" <jsullins@san.rr.com>
Can anyone tell me if there are census records for Paris >from about 1912
onward? Can one access them without an address?
Jackye Sullins


French SIG #France Re: Re:Census Records #france

Stephane Toublanc <toublanc@...>
 

Census are organized town by town, gathered in the "Archives
Departementales". There are 90 departements in metropolitan France.

For Paris for instance, you have to know an adress. You have to look, street
after street, and for each house in a street, you will find home after home,
names of the inhabitants. There is no other way.

Regards

Stephane Toublanc
Paris - France

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jackye Sullins" <jsullins@san.rr.com>
To: "French SIG" <frenchsig@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:46 PM
Subject: Re:[frenchsig] Census Records

What about the rest of France? And where and how can they be accessed?

Jackye Sullins
San Diego


Subject: Re : Census Records
From: "Abensur" <laurphil@wanadoo.fr>
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:06:37 +0200
X-Message-Number: 1

There is no Population Census for Paris before 1926. For this city, there
are Censuses with nominative data for the years 1926, 1931, 1936 and
1946.

Sincerely,
Laurence Abensur-Hazan (Mrs)

Subject: Census Records
From: "Jackye Sullins" <jsullins@san.rr.com>
Can anyone tell me if there are census records for Paris >from about 1912
onward? Can one access them without an address?
Jackye Sullins


MEITOWER #germany

Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
 

Has anyone heard of a name that sounds like MEITOWER? According to a friend,
the 1920 US Federal Census has a woman by this name, spelled that
way, listed as being >from Germany.

Many thanks! Martha Lev-Zion Omer, Israel <martha@bgu.ac.il>


German SIG #Germany MEITOWER #germany

Martha LEV-ZION <martha@...>
 

Has anyone heard of a name that sounds like MEITOWER? According to a friend,
the 1920 US Federal Census has a woman by this name, spelled that
way, listed as being >from Germany.

Many thanks! Martha Lev-Zion Omer, Israel <martha@bgu.ac.il>


Nagymagyar -Velki Magendorf #hungary

לאה גדליה <msleag@...>
 

Dear Group
My husband's ggfather - Mor Moses Weinberger, was born in Nagymagyar -
Velki Magendorf in 1850 and died in Pancevo-Banat in 1905 .
I know that his father was Markus Weinberger and his mother was Juliana
Julis Schonfeld. I would like to know if he had any siblings. What kind of
documents should I look for and where will I find them?
Lea Haber Gedalia,Jerusalem


Hungary SIG #Hungary Nagymagyar -Velki Magendorf #hungary

לאה גדליה <msleag@...>
 

Dear Group
My husband's ggfather - Mor Moses Weinberger, was born in Nagymagyar -
Velki Magendorf in 1850 and died in Pancevo-Banat in 1905 .
I know that his father was Markus Weinberger and his mother was Juliana
Julis Schonfeld. I would like to know if he had any siblings. What kind of
documents should I look for and where will I find them?
Lea Haber Gedalia,Jerusalem


identifying and Locating Unique Child Holocaust Survivors #general

Iris Posner <posneri@...>
 

For five years, One Thousand Children, Inc., a nonprofit research and
education organization, has been looking for the only unaccompanied children
rescued >from the Holocaust by American organizations and individuals from
1934 to 1945. To date we have located over 500 and are still searching. Now
online for the first time is a distillation of the scholarly work that
initiated this search. To access this paper, go to
http://www.onethousandchildren.org and click on
"Click here for the story of who saved the children and how they did it"

Iris Posner
President
One Thousand Children


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen identifying and Locating Unique Child Holocaust Survivors #general

Iris Posner <posneri@...>
 

For five years, One Thousand Children, Inc., a nonprofit research and
education organization, has been looking for the only unaccompanied children
rescued >from the Holocaust by American organizations and individuals from
1934 to 1945. To date we have located over 500 and are still searching. Now
online for the first time is a distillation of the scholarly work that
initiated this search. To access this paper, go to
http://www.onethousandchildren.org and click on
"Click here for the story of who saved the children and how they did it"

Iris Posner
President
One Thousand Children